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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 06 2015 13:42 GMT
#2341
Dear Half The Sky,

Even if I possessed the means to directly acquire documentation, I would not waste such occasion to gather it about kitatheman27.

Much love,

Chezinu
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 13:43 GMT
#2342
Catching up on the thread, and seeing the reaction to Tube's posts, I will have to say that I'm not at all surprised by Tube's dismissal of mechanics. He did the same in Newbie LX, he wanted to dismiss them initially when he didn't understand them. He was VT in that game.

It's a flawed way of thinking, again, but it's not atypical for his game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 13:44 GMT
#2343
Someone told me last game that when kurimi trolls and does nothing hes mafia. I used it to lynch him acualy ;p
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 06 2015 13:50 GMT
#2344
On March 06 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
Someone told me last game that when kurimi trolls and does nothing hes mafia. I used it to lynch him acualy ;p


Dear sicklucker,

You are another person pushing an anti-CEO agenda based on lies. Please check your documentation.

Cheers,

Chezinu
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 14:03 GMT
#2345
Your not chezinu you dork there is only one chezinu
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 06 2015 14:05 GMT
#2346
On March 06 2015 22:42 Kurumi wrote:
Dear Half The Sky,

Even if I possessed the means to directly acquire documentation, I would not waste such occasion to gather it about kitatheman27.

Much love,

Chezinu

lol.. i would say,. please tell me hes the ninja.. but he shot before actions resolved.. awesome
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 06 2015 14:24 GMT
#2347
On March 06 2015 22:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count
Sandroba (5): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky
sicklucker (4): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (1): batsnacks

Not voted (9): LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Sandroba, Mocsta, kitaman27, Keirathi, IAmRobik

At the current vote count, Sandroba will be lynched. You have to vote here.


This is kinda where I'm at right now.
goingn to vote sandroba.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
March 06 2015 14:38 GMT
#2348
On March 06 2015 22:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On March 06 2015 11:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Elaborate what you think is town on Sandroba please.
Sicklucker is also not very easy to read, generally speaking. Where did you think he was town?


I don't know that Sandroba is town and I didn't feel like reading SL's filter. So... it's tubes for me.


Bats, I find this response really odd from you. You were in Void with sicklucker and he was scum. He managed to trick you in that game all the way through lylo. And you're taking the chance that he could potentially be doing the same here?

Does not compute.


Doesn't that strengthen my reasons for not wanting to read SL's filter? If I couldn't figure out his alignment for an entire game that went to lylo why would I be able to figure him out in a game I'm not even reading? It's not worth the pain it would cause me.

I would much rather bury my head in the sand like an ostrich or something... Whatever the saying is. Or something.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 06 2015 14:53 GMT
#2349
On March 06 2015 23:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 22:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count
Sandroba (5): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky
sicklucker (4): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (1): batsnacks

Not voted (9): LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Sandroba, Mocsta, kitaman27, Keirathi, IAmRobik

At the current vote count, Sandroba will be lynched. You have to vote here.


This is kinda where I'm at right now.
goingn to vote sandroba.



Ugg I just don't see why a scum sandroba checks/fake checks me as green? Like why not red check someone out of the cell? That way it's at least a 2for 1... And then depending on what lynch catgories come up it could be days before his check flips. Letting him live on a cop claim. Just doesn't make sense for a scum in my cell to give me a green check, when one of the most vocal players (Geript) would be pushing for my lynch.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 06 2015 15:56 GMT
#2350
On March 06 2015 23:53 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:24 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2015 22:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count
Sandroba (5): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky
sicklucker (4): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (1): batsnacks

Not voted (9): LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Sandroba, Mocsta, kitaman27, Keirathi, IAmRobik

At the current vote count, Sandroba will be lynched. You have to vote here.


This is kinda where I'm at right now.
goingn to vote sandroba.



Ugg I just don't see why a scum sandroba checks/fake checks me as green? Like why not red check someone out of the cell? That way it's at least a 2for 1... And then depending on what lynch catgories come up it could be days before his check flips. Letting him live on a cop claim. Just doesn't make sense for a scum in my cell to give me a green check, when one of the most vocal players (Geript) would be pushing for my lynch.


For the sake of argument, if sandroba is mafia does it really matter to him who gets lynched out of the three so long as he saves himself and the other three are all town?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 06 2015 16:04 GMT
#2351
On March 07 2015 00:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 23:53 Onegu wrote:
On March 06 2015 23:24 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2015 22:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count
Sandroba (5): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky
sicklucker (4): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (1): batsnacks

Not voted (9): LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Sandroba, Mocsta, kitaman27, Keirathi, IAmRobik

At the current vote count, Sandroba will be lynched. You have to vote here.


This is kinda where I'm at right now.
goingn to vote sandroba.



Ugg I just don't see why a scum sandroba checks/fake checks me as green? Like why not red check someone out of the cell? That way it's at least a 2for 1... And then depending on what lynch catgories come up it could be days before his check flips. Letting him live on a cop claim. Just doesn't make sense for a scum in my cell to give me a green check, when one of the most vocal players (Geript) would be pushing for my lynch.


For the sake of argument, if sandroba is mafia does it really matter to him who gets lynched out of the three so long as he saves himself and the other three are all town?



I guess not really, but why give someone semi confirmed town that could be a easy mislynch, when you can give a red check on someone out of the cell, you achieve the same thing a cop claim to survive and maybe get a mislynch on someone else.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2015 16:07 GMT
#2352
meh sandro hasnt done fucking jack shit and I dont think that tube or sl is scum.

So that leaves me with onegu and Sandro, so sandro is highly likely to be scum.
No gg, No skill.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
March 06 2015 16:09 GMT
#2353
Hi oats what's shaking?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 16:30 GMT
#2354
Everytime I've seen Sandroba as mafia (except for Catastrophe), which is a surprising amount, I've had the following experience.

As mafia, Sandroba will literally do nothing. Like in Duke Nukem Hydra, I'm pretty sure that Syllogism made like 4 posts and Sandroba didn't post at all. In Shadow he barely interacts at all and Marv/HF decided to bus him on D1. Like he has no thoughts in his filter that game and doesn't even get off page 1. I remember Sandroba replacing out of a game and people questioning whether they should just lynch that slot because of how much Sandro hates rolling mafia. My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here.

Like in Shadow he makes a post about Prome and basically afk's and completely ignores it. He doesn't even care what anyone else thinks about his case. He's lazy and doesn't even bother with it really. But in this game there are hints that's not the case. Like he hasn't just afk spammed Breshke into oblivion. Rather, he's actually compared about why he could be right or could be wrong on Breshke.

Like I think mafia are probably just afk stacking on Sandroba and using any reason they want to try and lynch him. Because for as much as SL and Tube have talked about Sandro doing nothing, they really haven't evaluated the other player at all. Zero. Zip. Nada.

On March 05 2015 08:05 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Well theres two easy town reads. Me and tubesock so that leaves two others.

This is SL's marvelous townread on Tube. Which btw comes AFTER the cell has been posted. SL buddied the fuck out of everyone and anyone in Office just to not get lynched. He's refused to give any sort of actual reasonable analysis for Sandro being mafia (just Tube is OMG TOWN, a read which IIRC he hasn't explained). He hasn't bothered looking whatsoever. He's pushed the idea that Sandro is mafia with Onegu which SL is smart enough as town to completely ignore that shit line of thinking. I could go on but I'm really not going to waste more time on this shit.

You guys can lynch town Sandroba. I don't fucking care. But when he flips town, just lynch peopel on his wagon and SL.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 06 2015 16:44 GMT
#2355
Sandroba

Sandroba jumps on Mocsta's case against breshke, but the only thing he adds to the case turns out to be a misread.

On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote:
However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now.


After I point out that sandroba is lazy when scum, he goes out of his way to post this, but doesn't do much to show otherwise.

Following the your mom flip, he calls the shot awful yet never shared his opinion prior to the shot. He claimed he would be shooting at the 24 hour mark, admits the rayn shot was terrible, but doesn't attempt to make his preferred shot first.

Setup balance suggests the cop check is legit, but doesn't say much about his alignment.

Sandroba has 6 posts on day two, 5 are about his cop check.

Little to no scum hunting efforts, which he blames on availability.




Sicklucker

Has trouble keeping his story straight when claiming to not know about roles from spirits, yet asking for a gun during day one.

His priorities shift pretty dramatically when learning that he is a member of the cell and has to fight for survival.

He goes after sandroba pretty hard, with little consideration that tube may be mafia, a player he hadn't even mentioned earlier.

He puts a lot of effort in reinforcing the fact that he is obvious town. He references the town role PM which mafia have knowledge of, he references his ignorance about the spirit roles, he brings up that his relationship with tube should be a town tell for us, he mentions several times that he doesn't get lynched as town.

His mafia list are the process of elimination cell members and the afks/trolls. He produced a similar list in one of the mafia games I read.




I'm eliminating tube right now since he looks a bit better to me than on day one. Maybe I'll be kicking myself postgame.

Based on the bullet points above, I'm leaning towards voting sandroba. A lot of the sicklucker points could go either way as town or mafia. I wouldn't be totally shocked if we ran into another one of sandroba's no show town games though.

If someone (other than sicklucker) wants to shed light to the above thoughts or point out something I'm not seeing, please share.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#2356
On March 07 2015 01:30 geript wrote:
My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here.


Could you elaborate? I think even sandroba would admit that he has done close to nothing, yet you come to the town conclusion.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 16:54 GMT
#2357
On March 07 2015 01:30 geript wrote:
Everytime I've seen Sandroba as mafia (except for Catastrophe), which is a surprising amount, I've had the following experience.

As mafia, Sandroba will literally do nothing. Like in Duke Nukem Hydra, I'm pretty sure that Syllogism made like 4 posts and Sandroba didn't post at all. In Shadow he barely interacts at all and Marv/HF decided to bus him on D1. Like he has no thoughts in his filter that game and doesn't even get off page 1. I remember Sandroba replacing out of a game and people questioning whether they should just lynch that slot because of how much Sandro hates rolling mafia. My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here.

Like in Shadow he makes a post about Prome and basically afk's and completely ignores it. He doesn't even care what anyone else thinks about his case. He's lazy and doesn't even bother with it really. But in this game there are hints that's not the case. Like he hasn't just afk spammed Breshke into oblivion. Rather, he's actually compared about why he could be right or could be wrong on Breshke.

Like I think mafia are probably just afk stacking on Sandroba and using any reason they want to try and lynch him. Because for as much as SL and Tube have talked about Sandro doing nothing, they really haven't evaluated the other player at all. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 08:05 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Well theres two easy town reads. Me and tubesock so that leaves two others.

This is SL's marvelous townread on Tube. Which btw comes AFTER the cell has been posted. SL buddied the fuck out of everyone and anyone in Office just to not get lynched. He's refused to give any sort of actual reasonable analysis for Sandro being mafia (just Tube is OMG TOWN, a read which IIRC he hasn't explained). He hasn't bothered looking whatsoever. He's pushed the idea that Sandro is mafia with Onegu which SL is smart enough as town to completely ignore that shit line of thinking. I could go on but I'm really not going to waste more time on this shit.

You guys can lynch town Sandroba. I don't fucking care. But when he flips town, just lynch peopel on his wagon and SL.


You dont see him doing that? BECAUSE I DO ROFL? Hes entire play is oh shit im in a cell ill say I have a green check with anothe rof them and not decide whos the scum of the remaining 2. I didnt know his scum meta but this is literately his scum meta you just described...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 16:58 GMT
#2358
On March 07 2015 01:30 geript wrote:
Everytime I've seen Sandroba as mafia (except for Catastrophe), which is a surprising amount, I've had the following experience.

As mafia, Sandroba will literally do nothing. Like in Duke Nukem Hydra, I'm pretty sure that Syllogism made like 4 posts and Sandroba didn't post at all. In Shadow he barely interacts at all and Marv/HF decided to bus him on D1. Like he has no thoughts in his filter that game and doesn't even get off page 1. I remember Sandroba replacing out of a game and people questioning whether they should just lynch that slot because of how much Sandro hates rolling mafia. My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here.

Like in Shadow he makes a post about Prome and basically afk's and completely ignores it. He doesn't even care what anyone else thinks about his case. He's lazy and doesn't even bother with it really. But in this game there are hints that's not the case. Like he hasn't just afk spammed Breshke into oblivion. Rather, he's actually compared about why he could be right or could be wrong on Breshke.

Like I think mafia are probably just afk stacking on Sandroba and using any reason they want to try and lynch him. Because for as much as SL and Tube have talked about Sandro doing nothing, they really haven't evaluated the other player at all. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 08:05 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Well theres two easy town reads. Me and tubesock so that leaves two others.

This is SL's marvelous townread on Tube. Which btw comes AFTER the cell has been posted. SL buddied the fuck out of everyone and anyone in Office just to not get lynched. He's refused to give any sort of actual reasonable analysis for Sandro being mafia (just Tube is OMG TOWN, a read which IIRC he hasn't explained). He hasn't bothered looking whatsoever. He's pushed the idea that Sandro is mafia with Onegu which SL is smart enough as town to completely ignore that shit line of thinking. I could go on but I'm really not going to waste more time on this shit.

You guys can lynch town Sandroba. I don't fucking care. But when he flips town, just lynch peopel on his wagon and SL.


ARE YOU SERIOUS ROFLROFLMAO. I HAVE A 11 PAGE FILTER PRETTY MUCH TALKING ONLY ABOUT HOW HES SCUM AND HOW WE NEED TO LYNCH HIM
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 16:59 GMT
#2359
Geript is like acualy the worst town ive ever seen if hes town here again. Geript you made one good read I did buddy up to people in the office and any mafia game in general.

But this game im pissing people off and enjoying it whats that tell you?

+ Show Spoiler +
Im town
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 17:10 GMT
#2360
Tube could be mafia but I doubt it. Hes fallen off a bit. This really should be a race between the two of them I must be like the most obvious town of all time at this point. The one worrying fact is people seem to be agreeing with me. That literally never happened to me before. But if sandro is town you cant put this on me because it looks like you would have voted me over tube anyway killing a town.
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