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The Shining
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Zlefin - Null on Tere, healthy suspicion but seems to be more set on pushing Ely or Silver. Speaking of Silver...you got me interested in the exercise I just did with Tere. As far as I see, Trfel is leaning scum or at least willing to lynch Silver. Tere dropped her to being scum with me. Ely and Zlef both see Silver as scummish, as per the lists they posted. JJB is calling her forgettable up until now, but points out that she did take the effort to scumread Tere, although he is incorrect in saying Tere's being accepted as a townread. Did you miss the part where we got at eachother? lol. Also, definitive answer for Silver, please. You leaning scum or town? | ||
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Regardless, EVERYONE minus myself scumming Silver is raising red flags for me. I was null on her but now I truly have to dive her. I did mention that Tere's suspicions seemed pretty scattershot, with the only constant being her scumread on me. But that read when she first entered the game was a slight town lean, too. Also, I believe that was somewhat original on Silver's part. Trfel did comment that people seemed to pick up on his reads and analysis but did not specify which ones, I think. And I pinged on the fact that Tere rescinded her Ely read for a town read off of 1 post that, IMO, could come from either alignment. It could just be a coincidence that Tere decided to replace Ely with Silver following Trfel's analysis of her but it is a good point to look into. | ||
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On February 19 2015 15:44 Trfel wrote: Is this directed at me? Anyway, thanks a bunch for digging up all of this. I don't think I see any strong reasons to scumread Tere that I missed, but I'll take another look. I could just be wrong on Tere, but I won't be able to get a good feel on it for sure until I see her at EoD. And no prob. | ||
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On February 19 2015 15:48 jarjarbinks wrote: I'm not done with the filter, sorry. Posting thoughts in segments lol I did see that. Are you still that suspicious of her? It seems like you are less. Trf seems less. Of who, Tere? | ||
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In other words, I'm concentrating my efforts on finding the other scum. That will, imo, either give her away as the 2nd scum or exonerate her, depending on who flips. Once she interacts with me tomorrow, and of course post lynch flip, I'll have a more definitive answer. And I agree with the fact that holding back reads or thoughts sometimes forces others to put original thoughts into the thread. It is how we interpret those original thoughts that makes the strategy useful. And please, once you're done with Silver, a read either way would be helpful. Trfel WIFOM? It's a newbie game, we could have first time scummers or scum team could be the most experienced in the game. Do you really think it would be such a seamless bus that we wouldn't be able to pick up on who was least committed to the Silver scumread? You're either putting a lot of faith into the scum team or little to no faith in your/our scumhunting abilities as town. Also, am I wrong in thinking that with this much time left in the day, a counter wagon would be at least attempted before scum buses a partner in a game this small? | ||
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We had this many willing to lynch Hier. He flipped town. I don't want that happening again. | ||
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On February 19 2015 07:37 The Shining wrote: For Zlefin: Townish: Trfel, me. Null:JJB, Silver, Zlef(diving these filters + Ely right now) Scummy: Tere rescinded Ely too fast off of one post, considering it was your other strong scumread besides me. So Tere - ElyAs Ely - Just getting into thread and want to cross check some things but I've honestly been waffling on whether the Godfather is Trfel or Tere myself, since the game started. I'll see which of those options I like best, or if it is just a ploy to deflect suspicion off of you. Tere - The question that was never answered. It's a new day. I'm here. Answer it pl0x. WTF makes Ely's one post you claim to town read him off of so special that you towned him so hard for it? You have a vote up on Trfel of all people. It doesn't escape me that my only 2 scumreads are now setting up to push Trfel together. Explain your Trfel vote or it'll garner no support. And do it earlier than a few minutes before EoD, please. | ||
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On February 19 2015 02:27 ElyAs wrote: It really took an hour to write this ? Holy hell. I don't want to leave this post alone but I won't have the time to do another one of these right now. [b]I'll be back for 11PM CET for follow-up.[b] 11:00 PM Thursday, Central European Time (CET) is 5:00 PM Thursday, Eastern Time (ET). Okay nevermind, I made another time mistake. You actually said you'd be back AT EoD, not before it. I guess I misunderstood this post as saying you would not be back before then, but obviously you're here, so point is moot. | ||
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For Trfel, I can understand why he is done with Tere's breadcrumbing, I noticed it myself and it hasn't stopped me from scumming her. It could come from either alignment. And distancing himself from easy lynches? He cased Silver, who arguably has given us less content this game than you have. For me, I'm just going to be clear and say I'm not scum at all, let alone the godfather. For Tere, this is pretty much exactly the problem I had with her. She seemed to breadcrumb which led us to nothing and although there's a lot of time and effort in her WOTs, nothing has been really consistent. Scumreads keep becoming townreads while town and nulls get dropped to scum. | ||
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I need to get on my tablet, on phone right now. | ||
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With a player with a filter this big, with valid scumhunting, are you still null on him? If so, how? If not, where are you leaning on him? | ||
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Didn't Tere also bump Zlefin up a couple of notches on her town list? Defends his wanting to lynch Trfel for info as a Newbie play. Suspicious of him then bumps him up to new townie finding his voice once he says he'll give her slot a pass. | ||
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Wow, Tere, that's a case. Let me get through it, shouldn't be more than 10 mins. On the surface, it looks pretty damning, as some of it echoes thoughts I had on Trfel with my early suspicions. | ||
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And if your case is to be believed, plus your thoughts on Silver, you're saying our only 2 wagons are both scum? | ||
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JJB, Silver, not voting. Seems to be a big tell on Silver here, not really sure why JJB is afk. I need to see those votes. | ||
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