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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On January 28 2015 22:27 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar, if you're in thread, can you answer one last question I had? I'm still a tad confused on what you were trying to do with GB. Were you scumreading him at all when you looked into this? And if you were how did a scumread become a policy vote? Yes, the latter post was to demonstrate that he had sort of painted himself into a corner regarding scumreads. I'd like to point out here that GB has flipped again on robik. And policy and scumreads aren't mutually exclusive. If you break a policy and I want to policy kill you, that doesn't change how I feel about the guy from an analytical standpoint. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On January 28 2015 22:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Bah, mine were commands too. Whatever...either explain your Toad read or look at Onegu for me. Otherwise you might have to convince a mafia to replace me on your lynch preference. kill toad | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
The other problem I'm having is he's not particularly pushing anyon aside from listing scumreads. At least not that I can recall. Also I knew there was another suspicious exchange...here it is. [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:53 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:33 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?[/QUOTE] I've never done that as mafia ever. I'm not even sure if "against GB" means "against GB lynch" or "against GB (being town)" with the topic being what it is recently.[/QUOTE] So what? I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:56 Toadesstern wrote: besides... I don't think I should talk about this stuff. I think I made my point clear: I'd prefer one of the other 2 for today. If GB happens to be the lynch I'm fine with lynching him too[/QUOTE] I don't like these quotes. Because to me, they sound like a scum who doesn't want to be held accountable for something he said if he were to backtrack, etc. What do you think? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
The other problem I'm having is he's not particularly pushing anyon aside from listing scumreads. At least not that I can recall. Also I knew there was another suspicious exchange...here it is. On January 27 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote: So what? I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game. On January 27 2015 19:56 Toadesstern wrote: besides... I don't think I should talk about this stuff. I think I made my point clear: I'd prefer one of the other 2 for today. If GB happens to be the lynch I'm fine with lynching him too I don't like these quotes. Because to me, they sound like a scum who doesn't want to be held accountable for something he said if he were to backtrack, etc. What do you think? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On January 28 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote: And policy and scumreads aren't mutually exclusive. If you break a policy and I want to policy kill you, that doesn't change how I feel about the guy from an analytical standpoint. Fair enough. It wasn't clear. The way you were posting struck me if it was straight up policy. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Then Palmar unvoted. VE you had voted him as #4 then. On January 28 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote: whatever... Palmar apparently went crazy and a bunch of people too. Lynch down the list: Ongegu Lian GB and we win. ##vote GlowingBear So Onegu was his top per his list and sensing an opportunity he votes GB. That was another problem pointed out. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
GB, your final thoughts on these two? I agree we shouldn't lynch Robik...but I'd still pick Lian over Robik anytime. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On the one hand I can see that I guess. Toad hasn't been jumping up and down about anyone, which is pretty much a Toad staple to me. On the other hand I don't want to give Palmar the satisfaction of getting his lynch by saying only "Lynch Toad" repeatedly. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
By association. :/ HTS I'd like YOU to look at Onegu's filter, paying special attention to the progression of his read on liancourt. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On January 28 2015 17:57 Eden1892 wrote: robik I still need this explained. How was GB self-voting against mafia win con? For the same way it's against town win-con. You can claim it's "strategy" all you want, but it's playing against one's win condition. One less vote. One less person influencing town sentiment. I don't see why this is a hard concept to grasp? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On January 28 2015 23:40 VisceraEyes wrote: So you think he's with Lian then? By association. :/ HTS I'd like YOU to look at Onegu's filter, paying special attention to the progression of his read on liancourt. I have explored the idea already by looking at their interactions. As I said before I don't like associative reads until they have flipped. My justification is that a lot of people here are looking at least either one of Lian or Toad, if not both. So I am questioning in advance (given the silent night phase) whether that makes sense. Eden has also said he's throwing it around. Will take a look on Onegu's filter though. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On January 28 2015 18:20 Eden1892 wrote: ROBIK AND PALMAR Thoughts on liancourt? Who cares? You're driving away discussion from GB who is my top scum. Beyond him being my top scum, there are many associative reads that I have based off a GB flip that I don't want to elaborate one pre-flip and it's pissing me off. The game becomes exponentially easier to solve with knowledge of GB's alignment. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On January 29 2015 00:13 IAmRobik wrote: Who cares? You're driving away discussion from GB who is my top scum. Beyond him being my top scum, there are many associative reads that I have based off a GB flip that I don't want to elaborate one pre-flip and it's pissing me off. The game becomes exponentially easier to solve with knowledge of GB's alignment. Robik, your last posts indicate to me you had not caught up on the thread (when I was asleep). Have you even looked at GB's latest exchange with Palmar? Do you have any thoughts or conclusions on it? Specifically where he talks about the voting sequence on him and his plays? Does that give to you a town or scum impression? If you're town, you'd be further substantiating your push using his latest information or you would be moving on to another scumread. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On January 28 2015 23:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Hmmm. On the one hand I can see that I guess. Toad hasn't been jumping up and down about anyone, which is pretty much a Toad staple to me. On the other hand I don't want to give Palmar the satisfaction of getting his lynch by saying only "Lynch Toad" repeatedly. I'm saying "kill toad" Much difference. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Kill toad | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Do you have a second scumread? (unless I missed it) There are two scum in this game, you know. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I just don't think you're being productive spamming "kill Toad". | ||
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