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On January 28 2015 18:50 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 18:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm wifflewaffling between Onegu and lian. Like...Onegu's read on liancourt is really weird. Early on he seems to just want more activity from liancourt, and when lian finally does come in and do things Onegu's IMMEDIATE reaction is "That's the scummiest shit ever" Onegu has a great argument for lynching liancourt. Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 13:45 Onegu wrote:On January 28 2015 13:41 liancourt wrote:On January 28 2015 13:10 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh please make it stop
this is like watching sandpaper scratch a chalkboard drying why are you so butt hurt? Did my ignoring you hurt your feelings so bad that you're acting childish like this? I'd like to play a game where we don't post petty insults at each other as much as the next man. I can play like a dick as I've previously shown in titanic d1 and last days of carol and nye. I've reverted to playing my original meta that I used in FFL, FFL2, and hearthstone because I actually enjoyed those games. I'm not being a dick here on purpose like i played in my latest 3 games, but why are you being a dick here? If you keep behaving like this I'll just vote myself or get replaced out. I'd actually like to play a game of wits instead a battle of dick smashing insults. Sure you can go aggressive but insulting and being bm is uncalled for. If you believe my ignoring you was bad mannered and it pissed you off I apologize, if you want to report me for ignoring you and you want to warrant a ban for it I'll take the ban. But if you want to play the game you need to get that prejudice lifted because it is doing you no good. This is my playstyle. I reread like this and comment on a post i agree on. You can scrutinize criticize saying it's a bad way to play and what not but down right insulting it like this is shallow and childish. I would prefer you refrain from doing these kind of actions in the future. Good day. I will come back tomorrow before deadline if i can wake up early enough. 3 people I'm willing to lynch today is onegu > gb > toad I don't mind you making posts one after another, but A) you aren't pushing your reads. B) your catch up posts have little to no substance C) then you just peace out This isn't town behavior, you are not trying to solve the game you are just trying to look busy. liancourt's posting this game has been to afk for most of it, then show up and respond to events that are of varying significance long after they cease to be relevant, say nothing insightful about these events, not interact with people in the thread, and then afk again to repeat the cycle. That's a great reason to lynch someone. And Onegu keeps pushing the lynch when he's around to do it. I'm not really seeing how they're equivalent at all tbh.
i'm just going to assume this is true and that lian is mafia. But it doesn't really matter because we're lynching toad today.
VE hold my hand and close your eyes, we're jumping honey
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Ok something really boring is happening on TL mobile. It automatically opens App Store. C'mon. This is getting me angry
Ok my lynch list is between Toad, Robik, Onegu and lian.
I actually don't want to lynch onegu today, I would rather take another look on him.
Lian, can you address to this, please?: why are you ignoring real time interactions since you stated repeatedly in other games that your way of evaluating people's play is by having real time interactions? Why would you rather bring a lot of old stuff without actually making anything out of them?
I'm seriously wishy washy regarding toad. I'm afraid I could be tunnelled because he voted me. But his survival vote was really bad. It makes me think this again: would mafia be so obvious?
Regarding Robik, I thought his reaction about my joke post on him was genuine. The problem is that he is voting me since the beginning of the game without actually pursuing to discover my alignment. All he does is call me mafia for bad reasons but makes no intent to actually lynch me. He is just laying there, with a vote on me, calling people bad because he is "leading the wagon". He may have started it, but the main vocal person against me is HTS, who is actually trying to convince people to get me dead. Robik, in the other hand, just points out a post and say "OH YOU'RE JUST MAFIA TRYING TO LOOK TOWNIE" which is ridiculous.
My preferred lynch today is Robik.
##unvote
##Vote: Robik
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Back.
After reviewing everything from when I went to bed, I'm going to say Lian and Toad are my top two for lynch (in that order). Stick to one of these since most of us are pretty sure.
I don't see how Onegu is even on the table when he could have hammered a town GB during the time Palmar voted/unvoted (around 4:30pm GMT yesterday, and I'd quoted that). I recall him discouraging us from voting GB because of the martyr thing. Unless people are saying his arguments are bad, but he has been pushing Lian.
Robik has been doing less and less. Off the cuff, my issue with Robik is that he doesn't seem to have any other scum reads than GB.
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##vote liancourt
Can we get a vote count please?
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Palmar look at Onegu, with special attention to his read on liancourt. Tell me what you see.
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Never mind. If I vote Toad, I will be #4 on him.
We have 10 more hours we can try and discuss things otherwise we have to brace for a hammer at any point.
Is anyone else in thread? (Palmar?)
In which case I have no problems voting Toad.
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Like what kind of stuff do you want to discuss? And how do you know that anyone will even be around near lynch time?
Honestly I think we should start thinking about just coming up with a lynch we can all agree on. Right now I'm looking at Onegu and lian, but Palmar could (if he tried) convince me to vote Toad.
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Palmar, if you're in thread, can you answer one last question I had?
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town
So this leaves:
GB
lian
Toad
Onegu
But then again I'm bad and idk.
The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?
I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.
On January 27 2015 23:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 21:54 GlowingBear wrote:
HTS I'm not ignoring your posts, I'm just not reading a lot from the thread yet. Sometimes I get a random page and see what's going on. That's all.
You're calling me mafia for things that doesn't make me mafia. You're too tunnelled. who is mafia. Clearly, by this post, you don't think HTS is mafia, as do you think robik is. Me and my bro VE are town, and in your world you must be town. So that leaves Toad liancourt eden onegu two of which were your original townreads. lian/toad so that leaves Eden and Onegu as the mafia team. Eden isn't mafia, so.... onegu is mafia?
I'm still a tad confused on what you were trying to do with GB. Were you scumreading him at all when you looked into this?
And if you were how did a scumread become a policy vote?
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On January 28 2015 22:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar look at Onegu, with special attention to his read on liancourt. Tell me what you see.
kill toad
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On January 28 2015 22:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 22:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar look at Onegu, with special attention to his read on liancourt. Tell me what you see. kill toad
You know that shit doesn't work on me...
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I'm disinclined to work with you if you're unwilling to work with me. You're ignoring my requests and issuing commands.
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On January 28 2015 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like what kind of stuff do you want to discuss? And how do you know that anyone will even be around near lynch time?
Honestly I think we should start thinking about just coming up with a lynch we can all agree on. Right now I'm looking at Onegu and lian, but Palmar could (if he tried) convince me to vote Toad.
Fair, then, since I am ready to vote two people. Vote is already on Lian, but 3 are voting Toad. I'd be #4.
Palmar's chief case on Toad, was on page 37.
I think if you take that case on Toad along with seeing what he's done (or not done) lately will show why he's a good vote too.
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On January 28 2015 22:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 22:28 Palmar wrote:On January 28 2015 22:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar look at Onegu, with special attention to his read on liancourt. Tell me what you see. kill toad You know that shit doesn't work on me...
kill toad?
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VE, page 37 is the original case.
On January 27 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 18:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town
So this leaves:
GB
lian
Toad
Onegu
But then again I'm bad and idk.
The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?
I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much. if you take out my name from that list those other three have been the ones I want to lynch every since the last... 24 hours? ... what does that tell us about what you should be thinking about me? This post is complete horseshit Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:Sanity please. Good morning. Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work. I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms. This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why: On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad
I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.
How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero. This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter. I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted. Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile. I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3 That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then. Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours? I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts. I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now... I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time. That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone. the more I think about that one point, the more I like it actually. It is clearly showing mafia agenda, more so than any other case done so far, including my own reads that are all based on how people are interacting here because d1 is usually really hard to get some mafia agenda when noone has flipped yet. I'd be voting him if I didn't want to make sure we get more time right now. There's still the lingering fear that he's bad and the easy mislynch but it makes me feel way better about this. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts. I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now... I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time. That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.
Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest. In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine. The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful
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Untouchable Votecount
liancourt (3): Toadesstern, Onegu, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, Half the Sky
Toadesstern (2): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar, Palmar, GlowingBear, Eden1892
GlowingBear (1): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Palmar, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes
Onegu (1): Eden1892, liancourt
IAmRobik (1): GlowingBear, Palmar, GlowingBear
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear
Eden1892 (0): liancourt
Not voted (1): Toadesstern
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
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Bah, mine were commands too.
Whatever...either explain your Toad read or look at Onegu for me. Otherwise you might have to convince a mafia to replace me on your lynch preference.
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Palmar, do you have anything to add to your original case?
Why don't you think Lian, for example is a better candidate?
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Toad waffles on GB = Toad is mafia? That's thin.
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EPT
