EPTOn January 28 2015 09:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Wait hol up Palmar
What is case on Toad
Wait hol up Palmar
What is case on Toad
Page 37.
It looked pretty legit, which is why I tried following up on it.
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Half the Sky
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Page 37. It looked pretty legit, which is why I tried following up on it. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Good night everyone <3 | ||
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Palmar
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On January 28 2015 09:24 Half the Sky wrote: I'll admit I tried. I admitted I hated it. I gave up. Next? No stop it. Like there is some dumb shit here about whether I policy lynch on day 1: I'll answer: On September 15 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote: Because policy lynches are dumb. On June 27 2014 19:10 Palmar wrote: He should be policy lynched. If he's lying, he's doing it for mafia purpose. If he's not lying he's playing against his win con (unless mafia) and needs to be lynched. He's doing a play that benefits mafia more than town, and should be policy lynched. There is no point in analyzing him unless you think he's lying, and if he's lying he's confirmed mafia. Wait what? Palmar sometimes wants to policy lynch and sometimes calls them dumb? Fun fact, people tried to call me mafia for policy lynching in the game I wanted to policy lynch, and then tried to call me mafia for being against policy lynches in the game I did not want to policy lynch. If you want to know my stance on martyrs, here you go: On June 02 2014 04:36 Palmar wrote: To be honest, HF really has to be mafia, and he's playing against his win condition as either alignment. I hope he gets at least a warning for this. If he wants to martyr we should kill him. It's annoying as fuck and it's terrible and selfish play by him. Requesting to be lynched is about as low as it gets and I'm surprised HF goes that low. I honestly hope he's mafia because it's so fucking ironic that he's complaining about other players not putting in effort while deliberately trying to throw the game himself, no matter his alignment. Like he's by far the worst offender here. On July 13 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote: Fuck it, I'm okay with this lynch, mostly because if they're town these guys are actively playing against their win condition and ruining the game for the rest of us by not trying to fight a mislynch on day 1, so either they're assholes or mafia. So yeah there's that. I'm gonna try to read a few more filters. I didn't read slam, that's pointless. I read sqrtofneg1's filter. I liked OnceKing's red/green/black sentence on him. sqrt has basically been martyring since then so whatever. On February 15 2014 00:09 Palmar wrote: I don't think martyring is particularly telling one way or the other. But the difference is that holyflare was raging about in-game stuff, ie: he was mad that he wasn't being listened to. WoS is just mad that people are calling him scum. I don't know this game hard. On December 15 2012 01:26 Palmar wrote: I also kinda liked his martyr post. I'm not ready to say he's conclusively town, and so many people calling him scum gives me certain pause, but those a are a few examples of the things that make me thing he's probably not scum. Again? I don't consistently act the same way in every single game I play??? Surely I must be mafia. Like I have literally been in a situation where I'm playing two games at once. In one game people call me mafia because I'm trying so hard and giving fucks In the other people call me mafia because I'm not trying and not giving fucks. Meta, the way you're applying it, DOES NOT WORK. | ||
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Palmar
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On January 28 2015 09:26 Eden1892 wrote: Wait hol up Palmar What is case on Toad He's mafia because of many things, but the easiest point to get is the one I made regarding his stance on GB. Also because he tried to use my list post to clear himself. (look I'm fingering the same people you are) Also because he did something I can't remember but can look up at some point around the time I entered thread. Probably because I think everyone else is town too. Like I feel hts, ve, robik, eden are town. GB's gambit play is... meh (notice though, that he has basically done nothing with it except randomly call me and toad scum). Onegu and lian are the wildcards. I think I saw something townie from lian at one point but I cannot be sure. | ||
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Palmar
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If you think a player is mafia. Try to explain your case with absolutely no meta at all. If the case still works, it's good. If the case makes no sense unless you apply the meta, it's a ridiculous case. | ||
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Palmar
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But I need to read lian and onegu filters. I'll do that tomorrow if I find time. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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GlowingBear
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Ok, listen. An idea crossed my mind: if I vote myself, I would be two votes away from being hammered. Obvious scum would get me lynched quickly if both mafia voted me. If that happened, well, town would figure it out very quickly and game over for them. If both mafia were already voting for me, all they needed to do was to try to convince the thread to vote me. But what I think would be the most smart play for mafia would be to be airtime wishy washy but then quickly voting me and finally waiting for a townie to vote for me. The guy who would hammer a town would be VERY suspicious. This way, mafia avoids responsibility and gets a townie mislynched. You see, if you see someone voting for himself, SPECIALLY in an instant majority game like this, you HAVE to take a step back and consider what's going on. You can't jumping to the lynch too quickly because you risk getting a townie mislynched. You have to think about what's going on. You understand what I'm trying to say here? I voted myself expecting a mafia behaviour, and I saw that behaviour on Palmar. | ||
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GlowingBear
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This is the proof. If I was actually martyring, if I was really conceding, do you think I would reply such thing to palmar? | ||
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Palmar
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On January 28 2015 09:57 VisceraEyes wrote: See Palmar was that so fucking hard? Jesus... You know nothing motivates me like the opportunity to call people stupid. | ||
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On January 28 2015 10:00 GlowingBear wrote: This is the proof. If I was actually martyring, if I was really conceding, do you think I would reply such thing to palmar? yeah I was unsure there. But I was also just really fucking mad at you and wanted you to die. Now I'm just confused. | ||
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Eden1892
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On January 28 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote: Eden, I've got home. Ok, listen. An idea crossed my mind: if I vote myself, I would be two votes away from being hammered. Obvious scum would get me lynched quickly if both mafia voted me. If that happened, well, town would figure it out very quickly and game over for them. If both mafia were already voting for me, all they needed to do was to try to convince the thread to vote me. But what I think would be the most smart play for mafia would be to be airtime wishy washy but then quickly voting me and finally waiting for a townie to vote for me. The guy who would hammer a town would be VERY suspicious. This way, mafia avoids responsibility and gets a townie mislynched. You see, if you see someone voting for himself, SPECIALLY in an instant majority game like this, you HAVE to take a step back and consider what's going on. You can't jumping to the lynch too quickly because you risk getting a townie mislynched. You have to think about what's going on. You understand what I'm trying to say here? I voted myself expecting a mafia behaviour, and I saw that behaviour on Palmar. Holy shit that was actually a lot better than I thought it would be. A+ and I'm not joking. This guy is not the lynch today. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 28 2015 01:27 Palmar wrote: btw do we actually have 4 votes on him? Palmar, if you were so mad at me that you had to vote me for that, why asking this BEFORE voting me? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 28 2015 01:28 Palmar wrote: yeah no he only has 3 votes on him Himself, HTS and Robik. See, you realise this and THEN you vote me. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 28 2015 01:30 Palmar wrote: I don't want advice from shitty people who self-vote. I literally have no respect for martyring like a loser. This is on your own head as I have to leave now Policy vote ##unvote ##vote Glowingbear Then, to avoid more responsibility, you get behind a policy lynch excuse. | ||
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Palmar
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On January 28 2015 10:06 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, if you were so mad at me that you had to vote me for that, why asking this BEFORE voting me? that was more like "hey I might actually not be hammering him" Just so you know, if we had 4 votes on you, I WOULD have lynched you. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 28 2015 01:45 Palmar wrote: Like I would kill you even if I was a cop with a green check on you Then when I bring a fact like this, you just dismiss it, saying it is irrelevant, when it is EXTREMELY relevant, since you didn't have the same behaviour there when another guy was martyring. And this game is majority lynch. That game was plurality. | ||
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On January 28 2015 10:11 GlowingBear wrote: Then when I bring a fact like this, you just dismiss it, saying it is irrelevant, when it is EXTREMELY relevant, since you didn't have the same behaviour there when another guy was martyring. And this game is majority lynch. That game was plurality. I literally just showed why it was irrelevant, I don't always act the same. | ||
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