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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 22:56:08
January 27 2015 22:55 GMT
#961
Untouchable Votecount

GlowingBear (2): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Palmar, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes
Onegu (1): Eden1892, liancourt
liancourt (1): Toadesstern, Onegu, Eden1892
Toadesstern (1): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar, Palmar
Palmar (1): VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Eden1892
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, Palmar
Eden1892 (0): liancourt

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 22:55 GMT
#962
Palmar if you return, please answer my questions. Cheers.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 23:03 GMT
#963
I made some tense errors in my argument for Palmar being mafia that lend the impression that his vote is presently on GB. Sorry for the confusion there, he did move it, but it was well after GB retracted and Palmar acknowledged it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#964
Alright I'm here. Will be around for a bit. Reading.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 23:06 GMT
#965
Then I reread and see this:
On January 28 2015 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, getting behind the martyr policy is the easiest way to avoid responsibility.

And I think GlowingBear is town for real now. It happened hours ago but it's kinda like when two townies simultaneously post the same idea, if I'm reading the sequence of a particular set of events and thinking XYZ and then I keep reading and see XYZ, it makes me think they're town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 27 2015 23:20 GMT
#966
Ok can we talk about my liancourt case? Like since GB stepped off the cliff, and is most likely town doing the same shit I did. I think a liancourt lynch is best, followed by palmar, like getting it pointed out he didn't pollicy lynch someone in another game that martyred is a big red flag. Plus it is highly likely that liancourt is mafia and just wasn't around to hammer GB as he was sleeping because it was like 2am in Korea at the time i think.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 23:32 GMT
#967
On January 28 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok can we talk about my liancourt case? Like since GB stepped off the cliff, and is most likely town doing the same shit I did. I think a liancourt lynch is best, followed by palmar, like getting it pointed out he didn't pollicy lynch someone in another game that martyred is a big red flag. Plus it is highly likely that liancourt is mafia and just wasn't around to hammer GB as he was sleeping because it was like 2am in Korea at the time i think.

I wouldn't say highly likely, but the timezone differential is a good point. I think I'd rather kill Palmar though judging by his reaction in the thread to GB.

btw are you in Thailand? I thought I saw recently you posted that you were in the US
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 27 2015 23:37 GMT
#968
On January 28 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok can we talk about my liancourt case? Like since GB stepped off the cliff, and is most likely town doing the same shit I did. I think a liancourt lynch is best, followed by palmar, like getting it pointed out he didn't pollicy lynch someone in another game that martyred is a big red flag. Plus it is highly likely that liancourt is mafia and just wasn't around to hammer GB as he was sleeping because it was like 2am in Korea at the time i think.

I wouldn't say highly likely, but the timezone differential is a good point. I think I'd rather kill Palmar though judging by his reaction in the thread to GB.

btw are you in Thailand? I thought I saw recently you posted that you were in the US



Yeah I'm back in the states now
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 23:39 GMT
#969
Cool. So yeah liancourt is the only one who would likely be asleep and afk during that whole incident then.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 23:57 GMT
#970
On January 28 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok can we talk about my liancourt case? Like since GB stepped off the cliff, and is most likely town doing the same shit I did. I think a liancourt lynch is best, followed by palmar, like getting it pointed out he didn't pollicy lynch someone in another game that martyred is a big red flag. Plus it is highly likely that liancourt is mafia and just wasn't around to hammer GB as he was sleeping because it was like 2am in Korea at the time i think.


I actually think this (the bolded) is WIFOM. I see what you are saying here, but I generally think timezone arguments are WIFOM because you don't know a person's schedule and why they are out of thread. For example VE, an American, wasn't in thread, and you could argue he wasn't in thread because he was busy at work.

If you're going to lynch Lian, let's talk about the case contents...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 28 2015 00:06 GMT
#971
I made one post very early this morning on his comparison between Eden's gameplay in this game and in the NYE party game, and they were two early situations. But he isn't pushing Eden hard (or isn't active enough) to push Eden hard, so I don't know whether it's a convoluted read or if he's really trying to mislead us into thinking Eden is scum. If it's the latter, obviously not doing a good job of it.

The nonsensical stuff and not following Eden's request to me (this all happening whilst I was asleep last night) is a combination to me of trolling and question dodging, but I can also see why he wants to play catch up if he's answering others' questions. He quoted some of the stuff I said though, I recall some editorials but I don't recall him even answering any questions.

The post read on Toad though was a good post as it drove discussion and made me think. So all this would make me feel nullish, at least on the behaviour last night alone.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 28 2015 00:18 GMT
#972
I am going to head to bed now. It doesn't seem like anyone is in thread at the moment, but Onegu, etc keep bringing it up.

Lian will/should be up very soon, if not up already, so I am interested to hear what he has to say.

Good night everyone.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 28 2015 00:19 GMT
#973
Ah, and one last thing...

GlowingBear...if you're town, let's start seeing some town agenda/actions from you, please.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 28 2015 00:20 GMT
#974
On January 28 2015 07:53 Eden1892 wrote:
Palmar, on the other hand, I feel more confident is mafia. I noted on p47 that Palmar seemed like a slightly more exaggerated version of himself in this game; he seemed to be more aggressively trolly/apathetic to start the day and then more aggressively active/ostensibly-helpful once that stopped. In my (limited) experience with Palmar as town, he tends to ease his way into a game; there's very little pushing to the degree he's done here, and his warmup process is slower and smoother. He doesn't go from 0 to 90 fucks given like he has here; it's more of a steady press on the give-a-fuck accelerator. It feels like he dropped a brick on the accelerator this game, like he was trying to make sure no one could question that he was being active and involved now.


This is why I shouldn't play mafia.

I've probably done this, and various other things a million time in different games. I don't play the same every time because I'm not in the mood for the same things every time.

Hell, yesterday I had no idea I was going to go after someone today. I just felt like trolling yesterday and now I feel like pushing.

On January 28 2015 07:53 Eden1892 wrote:
Then there's his vote for GlowingBear... HTS already noted it. It's a policy vote, not a vote for mafia. The problem is that it's a policy vote based on GB martyring that's stayed on GB after GB retracted his self-vote. Policy votes are meant to be done to discourage the behavior triggering the policy vote. For them to be effective, then, there must be an incentive to revoke the behavior - a revoked vote in exchange. Palmar hasn't met GB halfway. If he really cares about the policy being effective, why is he not retracting his vote? On the other hand, if Palmar was just looking for a nice-sounding reason to put a vote down on GB (L-1 no less) and walk away, it makes perfect sense.


So what it's a policy vote?

Notice how I reacted when Toad threw down his vote? At the time I was mostly phone-posting so no, after GB unvoted I saw no reason to unvote as he was at l-2 and doing things on a phone is a pita. However when Toad (mafia) voted him, I actually made myself do it.

Anyway, it's sleep time

Toad is mafia lynch it with fire.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 28 2015 00:20 GMT
#975
On January 28 2015 06:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright. For those of us who wish to try:

Here's Palmar's games out of the database. He has NOT rolled scum often at all this year.

+ Show Spoiler [Palmar] +
Metal Mini Mafia! Town Miller Killed Night 2
Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia II Mafia Vanilla Survived
Pick Their Power Mafia Town Bro Of Destiny Survived
Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia III Town Vanilla Endgamed
Closed Casket Mafia Town Virgin Endgamed
Real Time Mafia Town Miller Survived Day 0
World at War 2 Mafia Third Party Conspirator Lynched Day 1
Merc Mini 2 Town Juliet Survived Day 3
Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia V Mafia Vanilla Survived
Pick Their Power Mafia 2 Mafia Traitor Red Hood Lynched Day 4
Experimental Haunted Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
Personality Mafia! Mafia flamewheel Lynched Day 3
TL Mafia XLIV Town Vanilla Killed Night 2
Cosmic Horror Mafia Town Medic Killed Night 1
Resurrection Mafia Town Vanilla Survived
Some Mafia Game Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Lord of the Rings Mafia Third Party Gollum Survived Day 0
TL Mafia XLV Mafia Pyro Lynched Day 1
Steamship Liquidia (TL Mafia 46) Town Records Cop Killed Night 4
Mini Mafia X Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
TL Mafia XLVIII Town Floridian Killed Night 3
Responsibility Mafia! Mafia Traitor Killed Night 1
Purgatory Mafia Mafia Courier Killed Night 1
TL Mafia L Town Miller Lynched Day 1
Hammer Mini Mafia Town Watcher Killed Night 2
BCs Arkham City Third Party Batman Unknown Day 0
Werewolves Invade Teamliquid II Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 0
Mr. Wiggles Mini Mafia II Town Watcher Killed Night 2
TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia Town Parity Cop Killed Day 3
Death Factory Mafia 2 Town Mirror Toy Killed Night 1
Liar Game Mini Mafia Mafia Goon Lynched Day 6
TL Mafia LIV Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
Pick Your Power: Redux Town Pardoner Modkilled Night 5
Emergency Mini Mafia! Mafia Vanilla Modkilled Day 4
iGroks Good Clean Old-fashioned Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 3
Bureaucracy Mafia! Mafia Company Lawyer Lynched Day 3
Normal Mini Mafia III Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
Rockband Mini Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 2
Hero Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 2
Parallel World Mafia Town Teemo Killed Night 2
TL Mafia LVIII Town Vanilla Killed Day 3
Nomination Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Night 1
RED Teams Prize Town Mayoreal Bonaparte Killed Night 1
Ego Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3
Boardwalk Empire Mafia: Pick Your Power Town Emperor Killed Night 1
TL Mafia LXI Town Detective Lynched Day 10
Smurf Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6
Death Note Mini Mafia Town Miller Lynched Day 1
Thug Life Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 3
Hogwarts Mafia Town Vigilante Lynched Day 1
Survivor Series Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
Default Suspicions Mafia Town Jack of all trades Killed Night 2
Foundation Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3
III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition Mafia Janitor Endgamed Day 3
World Heavyweight Championship Mafia II Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 1
Cell Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Unknown Day 2
Catastrophe Mafia Town Merchant Killed Night 5
You Only Shoot Once Mafia Town Pardoner Survived Day 9
[M][N] Detention Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Cell Mini Mafia II Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 3
[N] TL Order Mafia LXVI Town Mason Killed Night 1
World Cup Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Town killed Night 1
Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
Twitterverse Mini Mafia Town Literally A Bird Survived Day 3
Showdown Mafia Town Salesman Killed Night 4
TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini Third Party Poisoner Lynched Day 4
Russia Today Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 3


Have at it. Any input would be grand.


Most useless post in the thread.

HTS

STOP TRYING TO USE META.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 28 2015 00:21 GMT
#976
Also, if America (the more stupid part of TL, tbh) decides to lynch me tonight. DO NOT DOUBT MY TOWNREAD ON VE.
Computer says mafia
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 28 2015 00:24 GMT
#977
So I'm not going to bed quite yet...

Palmar....you didn't answer my question.

You were scumreading Toad.

Why would you throw in a policy vote over pushing Toad, a scumread of yours? Am I missing something?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 28 2015 00:24 GMT
#978
On January 28 2015 09:20 Palmar wrote:
HTS

STOP TRYING TO USE META.


I'll admit I tried. I admitted I hated it. I gave up.

Next?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 28 2015 00:26 GMT
#979
Wait hol up Palmar

What is case on Toad
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 28 2015 00:27 GMT
#980
On January 28 2015 09:24 Half the Sky wrote:
So I'm not going to bed quite yet...

Palmar....you didn't answer my question.

You were scumreading Toad.

Why would you throw in a policy vote over pushing Toad, a scumread of yours? Am I missing something?

Because

a) I already thought GB was mafia (I'm less sure now, tbh) read my "you can concede now" post
b) He is martyring, I hate martyrs and want to kill them.
Computer says mafia
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