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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:20 GMT
#901
If GB somehow isn't mafia, this would have to mean Palmar AND Onegu ARE scum.

Because Robik and I were ALREADY on him. But Onegu was NOT sold and thought GB was martyring so we cannot make that association.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:20 GMT
#902
Well, no, strike that. If the panicking didn't come until after GB retracted self-vote, it doesn't hold.

Question stands though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:22 GMT
#903
On January 28 2015 04:20 Half the Sky wrote:
If GB somehow isn't mafia, this would have to mean Palmar AND Onegu ARE scum.

Because Robik and I were ALREADY on him. But Onegu was NOT sold and thought GB was martyring so we cannot make that association.

I'm not following your conclusion here, Onegu not hammering town!GB and defending him instead is an odd decision to make if Onegu is mafia. GB gift-wrapped himself to be lynched there, Onegu could have just been like "lol policy vote martyrs" and no one would really have batted an eye. If GB is town then I think Onegu has to be town too.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:23 GMT
#904
And then if GB is mafia and self-voted then he obviously set up his partner to hammer him. mafia!Onegu would have hammered too.

I think Onegu might actually have to be town regardless of GB's alignment.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:25 GMT
#905
Wait, no. If GB is mafia then Onegu could totally be mafia too. Onegu doesn't want to bus his partner here, Onegu decides to "try to talk GB down" so to speak, GB un-martyrs. That works.

OK, so all I really got is Onegu is town if GB is town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2015 19:25 GMT
#906
On January 28 2015 04:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Well, no, strike that. If the panicking didn't come until after GB retracted self-vote, it doesn't hold.

Question stands though.

a quick walkthrough for what happened from my PoV:
1) I get back
2) I see a couple pages I have to catch up... I think something like 3
3) I quickly go through them looking for the names
4) I see Palmar making a big post and am like "wow nice I want to see if he finally started playing"
5) I realize he wants me lynched, I check for votes after his big post and thought I saw multiple ones on me (could have been Palmar going forth and back idk)
6) I filter Artanis, check if there was a post from him
7) no post, I'm allowed to post
8) I am allowed to post and do so without reading the rest to at least get my thoughts out fast

Both Robik and Palmar realized pretty quickly that I didn't even read the rest of the thread at that point. I'm not even sure I realized the self-vote nore the retraction of it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:27 GMT
#907
bruh.
i'm not even talkin about you LMAO

I was trying to figure out a reason why mafia!GB would get cold feet about martyring, and the only thing I thought of is that he might have seen you flipping your shit about getting lynched and tried to get on that ice instead

But it doesn't matter b/c you flipped out after GB unmartyred so
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:29 GMT
#908
On January 28 2015 04:19 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 28 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to.


GlowingBear, you realise I'm not the only one scumreading you, right?

Oh wait, is that a scum I see giving up?


Yeah, that is a scum giving up.

Gg well played

GB, if you're town, why post this? I understand getting frustrated, but you posting this and then retracting your self-vote honestly looks like mafia getting cold feet about self-hammering.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:31 GMT
#909
Eden, there is also the possibility of GB voting himself as vote #3 to see if he could bait a possible mafia vote #4, which Palmar did vote 4th.

Is it reasonable to think GB made a play here or as Robik said, did GB retract since he'd be playing against his win condition?

I mean, does GB make plays like this? I've only played one game prior with him on this. I mean I could see a Koshi pull this but...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:32 GMT
#910
Also does Palmar typically policy vote D1? That's another thing I forgot to consider.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:34 GMT
#911
Well, firstly, self-voting is only playing against wincon if you're town. Mafia can advance their win condition in IML by getting themselves hammered ASAP once they're caught to reduce discussion time. So that's out, and actually makes me wonder if Robik betrayed his ownership of excess game state information with that comment. (I'm pretty sure he didn't, because Robik isn't careless as mafia, but hey, it could happen.)

I have no idea what GB was thinking. I kinda wish you hadn't raised that possibility until he answered, though, because it's gonna be really difficult for me not to roll my eyes and say "yeah, sure, you're not just taking the answer HTS gave you" if that's his actual reason.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:35 GMT
#912
Oh, unless you mean GB was town martyring and got cold feet because it's going against wincon. In which case sure, maybe.

I really want his answer before we discuss this further though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#913
*facepalm*

....

That was at myself.

Gah.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#914
Why are there only 11 2-drops in standard with power 3+? This is making it hard to build a sweet deck that isn't Abzan aggro.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:37 GMT
#915
^^shouts to Artanis
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:37 GMT
#916
Yea I'm so bad at this game if you couldn't tell.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2015 19:37 GMT
#917
On January 28 2015 04:27 Eden1892 wrote:
bruh.
i'm not even talkin about you LMAO

I was trying to figure out a reason why mafia!GB would get cold feet about martyring, and the only thing I thought of is that he might have seen you flipping your shit about getting lynched and tried to get on that ice instead

But it doesn't matter b/c you flipped out after GB unmartyred so

given his situation it could have been a desperate stunt. People want him dead the most so might as well try that.

On the other hand... what about timezones? How likely is it that while town!GB was on 4 votes, assuming at least 1 mafia still left to vote him, just wasn't online?

On January 28 2015 04:32 Half the Sky wrote:
Also does Palmar typically policy vote D1? That's another thing I forgot to consider.

I'd say no. Could have changed in the last year
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 27 2015 19:41 GMT
#918
I'm driving
Eden, I have voted myself as a e part of a play.
You can see that Paulmark asked me if I wanted to say something else and I said That he should think about the vote which means It was part of a plan.
I'm adorable.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#919
Alright Eden, then, since you are waiting on him, let's change focus to Palmar and VE.

I am assuming you've had plenty of game time with Palmar. If this is not the case, then guess we'll have to move on.

I have been taking a lot of people here at face value in general simply because I've not played with them.

Right now, nothing that I've seen from VE is inherently scummy. I don't know if he's posting more/less relative to other games, for example.

Palmar I didn't like his trolling. When he comes in, his arguments on Toad did make sense but just that I was much more convinced on GB. But then he puts vote #4 under policy, when at least two others (Robik and myself) were scumreading him.

So that begs the question why Palmar didn't check our scumreads. Does this make sense?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#920
On January 28 2015 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Eden, I have voted myself as a e part of a play.

[image loading]

Like clockwork. SMH

When you're not driving can you elaborate as to what we're supposed to be seeing?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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