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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 16:48 GMT
#361
Oh no Toad... you've unleashed the Dragon
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2015 16:49 GMT
#362
he's talking with you. Wether that's a good discussion is another question
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:49 GMT
#363
lol what the fuck ever. You've got my reads. I'll check back later to see if they've changed. MAYBE.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:51 GMT
#364
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#365
On January 27 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Those post are him faking putting thoughts on what kind of vote that was. But it went to no conclusion.


Are we reading the same thing? I already said in the case he was asking a question and that it was unreasonable to assume he could even make a conclusion. (operative in blue)
How do you know for absolute sure he was faking it?

On January 26 2015 14:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 11:20 GlowingBear wrote:I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127
because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments.


This is patently false. On page 7 of the thread, Onegu has two comments directly after this post (which GB clearly ignored) as follows:

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 08:48 Onegu wrote:
Wait is it a lynch vote or a mayor vote?


Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 08:48 Onegu wrote:
I'm confused...


These quotes indicate that Onegu is at least trying to understand the reasoning, and he certainly cannot make a conclusion when he's trying to figure out which type of vote it was. That's completely unreasonable.


On January 27 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
A question here: why my vote was scummy and Robik's probably town trolling?


Because Robik explicitly said he was voting me for taking Holyflare's spot. It is in his filter, so I know.

On January 27 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
How can you still say everybody was leaning town when you had suspicions on me? How can you suddenly think I'm mafia for that?


I already said they disappeared when you removed the initial Toad vote. I scumread you again when I examined your notes.

On January 27 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
You've played once with me and you are trying to push meta reads. You're analysing last games of mine. Yet you disregard Robik's meta saying that "you haven't played with him yet". Well, you could do what you're doing with me now. Why the double standards?


Are you taking things out of context again?

Onegu is checking my read, and that's why I am looking into meta. He is contesting you are not scum based on meta. I am looking at your notes and trying to compare that to parts in your prior games.

My initial case on you WAS NOT BASED ON META.

Onegu is using meta to defend you. I am resolving that.

(Not finished yet...)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2015 16:53 GMT
#366
VE... when you say
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

everyone will take that jab at you. No matter of alignment, no matter of player. Everyone.

If everyone does that it is not alignment indicating. I'm all up for lynching Palmar if he continues like this but we're not lynching him for taking a jab at you...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:54 GMT
#367
On January 27 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
VE... when you say
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

everyone will take that jab at you. No matter of alignment, no matter of player. Everyone.

If everyone does that it is not alignment indicating. I'm all up for lynching Palmar if he continues like this but we're not lynching him for taking a jab at you...

I don't want to lynch him for taking a jab at me. I want to lynch him for being a non-entity this game when D1 is BY HIS OWN ADMISSION his very BEST day. He has done nothing but troll this day. Is he capable of such as town? Sure, absolutely. Do I find it likely? Given that he's more interested in trolling WHEN SCRUTINY IS ON HIM and less so when people aren't talking about him, I find it far more likely that he's doing it as mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#368
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#369
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#370
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2015 16:57 GMT
#371
On January 27 2015 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
VE... when you say
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

everyone will take that jab at you. No matter of alignment, no matter of player. Everyone.

If everyone does that it is not alignment indicating. I'm all up for lynching Palmar if he continues like this but we're not lynching him for taking a jab at you...

I don't want to lynch him for taking a jab at me. I want to lynch him for being a non-entity this game when D1 is BY HIS OWN ADMISSION his very BEST day. He has done nothing but troll this day. Is he capable of such as town? Sure, absolutely. Do I find it likely? Given that he's more interested in trolling WHEN SCRUTINY IS ON HIM and less so when people aren't talking about him, I find it far more likely that he's doing it as mafia.


and that's fine. All I'm saying is that the one point you brought up about him talking as if he knew your alignment is wrong.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 16:57 GMT
#372
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

I don't know why this man is angry.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:57 GMT
#373
On January 27 2015 01:57 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
VE... when you say
On January 27 2015 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Doing you are fuck the?

I don't know what that means.

##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar


Palmar's first day is his strongest, and he's not trying to get reads on anyone. He claims to not be reading the thread, and he's not trying to get anyone lynched.

GB's response to HTS is at least quasi-reasonable, Palmar is being maliciously bad.

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

The "I'm playing too scummy to be scum" means literally less than nothing when you point it out yourself Palmar.

If that is what you believe, who am I to question it?

I'll lynch you, you know. If you're town you know I'm bad enough.

everyone will take that jab at you. No matter of alignment, no matter of player. Everyone.

If everyone does that it is not alignment indicating. I'm all up for lynching Palmar if he continues like this but we're not lynching him for taking a jab at you...

I don't want to lynch him for taking a jab at me. I want to lynch him for being a non-entity this game when D1 is BY HIS OWN ADMISSION his very BEST day. He has done nothing but troll this day. Is he capable of such as town? Sure, absolutely. Do I find it likely? Given that he's more interested in trolling WHEN SCRUTINY IS ON HIM and less so when people aren't talking about him, I find it far more likely that he's doing it as mafia.


and that's fine. All I'm saying is that the one point you brought up about him talking as if he knew your alignment is wrong.

Okay, well that's a really cool story bro.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#374
On January 27 2015 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

I don't know why this man is angry.

No one does. What's worse is that no one quite knows how it will manifest itself. Count yourself lucky that you can't hear his voice in his rage.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#375
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#376
On January 27 2015 00:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 00:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really really dislike GB's "mind-dumps" or whatever. Like - it just reeks of "Hey guys look at how productive I am! I mean I've got notes on EVERY PLAYER here!"

Eden calling lurkers (me Palmar Robik) mafia is really irksome to me. Like, what's the point of lynching lurkers if you're going to ignore the people posting? Does he give reasoning for townreading everyone but lurkers?

And lian focusing on Eden because of "assumptions" and "omgus" is....strange. I don't know if I think it's mafia or town. Like...on the one hand maybe he just can't think of anything else to say as town. On the other, if he's mafia he's doing a good job of not doing anything while looking like he's doing something. I think I lean mafia.

Assuming no hard lurkers later in the day, these are the three I'd lynch into today.



Dude look at fantasy football mafia 2 and to mafia lxviii. And compare GB's posts in those games he's town.

you're fuckign wrong. Look at the formatting of his posts. It's all disjointed, like a bunch of separate sentences even though they're about the same thing.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#377
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:00 GMT
#378
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

I don't know why this man is angry.

No one does. What's worse is that no one quite knows how it will manifest itself. Count yourself lucky that you can't hear his voice in his rage.

I have spoken with this man on a medium that transfers both video and audio. It is not the audio that left me scarred for life.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:00 GMT
#379
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.

Are you sure? I think you want yourself to think I am mafia. I think you want to convince yourself that you think I am mafia, but I don't really think you think I am mafia.
Computer says mafia
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#380
On January 27 2015 01:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:40 Half the Sky wrote:
I'd reeeeaaaalllllllly like to see more from Palmar. I observed Metal Mini. And I recall him being quite vocal D1...

*glares at Palmar*

(responding to GB next...)

Once I played a game where I made a case on myself on day 1.

I was town.

I have not made a case on myself on day 1.

What is your conclusion?


Making a case on yourself D1 is not the point, the point is based on the little I know of you I'd expect you to be contributing more one way or another. Based on that, a slight scumread until I see more from you.

I know absolutely zero on Robik, zero on VE, zero on Onegu, so I have to take them completely at face value.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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