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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#381
On January 27 2015 02:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.

Are you sure? I think you want yourself to think I am mafia. I think you want to convince yourself that you think I am mafia, but I don't really think you think I am mafia.

................I'm REALLLY close to convincing myself Palmar. Don't. Test. Me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 26 2015 17:02 GMT
#382
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

Uncalled for. Consider this a warning.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#383
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game.


I don't like what GB quoted above either, but Robik, when I examined GB's meta, he mentioned you a lot particularly when he was scum. Could this not have been part of his strategy?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:05 GMT
#384
On January 27 2015 02:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:44 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:40 Half the Sky wrote:
I'd reeeeaaaalllllllly like to see more from Palmar. I observed Metal Mini. And I recall him being quite vocal D1...

*glares at Palmar*

(responding to GB next...)

Once I played a game where I made a case on myself on day 1.

I was town.

I have not made a case on myself on day 1.

What is your conclusion?


Making a case on yourself D1 is not the point, the point is based on the little I know of you I'd expect you to be contributing more one way or another. Based on that, a slight scumread until I see more from you.

I know absolutely zero on Robik, zero on VE, zero on Onegu, so I have to take them completely at face value.

Sometimes I contribute, sometimes I don't. The little you know is but one of the many alternative universes I have been a part of.
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 17:07 GMT
#385
On January 27 2015 02:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway

win/win

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game.


I don't like what GB quoted above either, but Robik, when I examined GB's meta, he mentioned you a lot particularly when he was scum. Could this not have been part of his strategy?

i never said he isn't scum. In fact, I'm voting him cause I think he's scum
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:08 GMT
#386
On January 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.

Are you sure? I think you want yourself to think I am mafia. I think you want to convince yourself that you think I am mafia, but I don't really think you think I am mafia.

................I'm REALLLY close to convincing myself Palmar. Don't. Test. Me.

DO NOT GIVE IN MY FRIEND.

I know how hard it is for you, to use logic and intelligence to overcome what is your much baser instinct.

I will stand by you.
Computer says mafia
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:08 GMT
#387
On January 27 2015 02:05 Palmar wrote:
Sometimes I contribute, sometimes I don't. The little you know is but one of the many alternative universes I have been a part of.


Are you trying to tell me that you are unreadable?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:10 GMT
#388
On January 27 2015 02:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:05 Palmar wrote:
Sometimes I contribute, sometimes I don't. The little you know is but one of the many alternative universes I have been a part of.


Are you trying to tell me that you are unreadable?

Quite the opposite, I am just helping you understand that your current methods are unlikely to yield any reliable results!

I am here to help.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#389
On January 27 2015 02:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 02:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.

Are you sure? I think you want yourself to think I am mafia. I think you want to convince yourself that you think I am mafia, but I don't really think you think I am mafia.

................I'm REALLLY close to convincing myself Palmar. Don't. Test. Me.

DO NOT GIVE IN MY FRIEND.

I know how hard it is for you, to use logic and intelligence to overcome what is your much baser instinct.

I will stand by you.

Okay then let me consider it logically.

Logically speaking I know that:
1a) Palmar considers himself a good player
1b) Palmar considers D1 to be his strongest day
1c) Palmar's opinion of his play diminishes sharply AFTER D1

2) Palmar has done nothing but troll D1

3a) Palmar speaks to VE as if he knows VE is town
3b) Palmar tends to require quite a bit from VE, generally speaking, to read him town
3c) In the face of VE calling Palmar scum, Palmar continues to consider VE town.

Now if I assume that mafia want to blend in and hide, then yes, I can then assume that mafia!Palmar would not act this way. However, what of all my other truths about Palmar? Do I just dismiss them out of hand?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#390
On January 27 2015 02:10 Palmar wrote:
Quite the opposite, I am just helping you understand that your current methods are unlikely to yield any reliable results!

I am here to help.


Reliable results on you or any of my own reads on anyone here?

I disregard meta on people I've not played with. You know I'm relatively new here. What do you think I should be doing?

For someone like yourself if what you say is true (you have no meta/alternate ways of playing), then why at this point, if I take you at face value, should I not scumread you for not solving the game at this point, or other relatively straightforward reasons I can justify?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#391
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.

Robik starts posting

GB: Robik is scum because: meta


Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:15 GMT
#392
On January 27 2015 02:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:10 Palmar wrote:
Quite the opposite, I am just helping you understand that your current methods are unlikely to yield any reliable results!

I am here to help.


Reliable results on you or any of my own reads on anyone here?

I disregard meta on people I've not played with. You know I'm relatively new here. What do you think I should be doing?

For someone like yourself if what you say is true (you have no meta/alternate ways of playing), then why at this point, if I take you at face value, should I not scumread you for not solving the game at this point, or other relatively straightforward reasons I can justify?

Let yourself be free from the constraints of meta.

Go fly!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:17 GMT
#393
On January 27 2015 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:08 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 02:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Toad says he wants to lynch Palmar and then defends Palmar with nonsense when I vote for him.

I miss the good ol' days when Toad bussed the fuck out of his patners -.-

Does the above say something about me or Toad?

Important question.

It says I'm annoyed that Toad said he wants to lynch you and then defends you, and I expressed that annoyance by drawing an illusory connection between the two of you out of spite.

But why am I a part of it?

Because I think you're mafia.

Are you sure? I think you want yourself to think I am mafia. I think you want to convince yourself that you think I am mafia, but I don't really think you think I am mafia.

................I'm REALLLY close to convincing myself Palmar. Don't. Test. Me.

DO NOT GIVE IN MY FRIEND.

I know how hard it is for you, to use logic and intelligence to overcome what is your much baser instinct.

I will stand by you.

Okay then let me consider it logically.

Logically speaking I know that:
1a) Palmar considers himself a good player
1b) Palmar considers D1 to be his strongest day
1c) Palmar's opinion of his play diminishes sharply AFTER D1

2) Palmar has done nothing but troll D1

3a) Palmar speaks to VE as if he knows VE is town
3b) Palmar tends to require quite a bit from VE, generally speaking, to read him town
3c) In the face of VE calling Palmar scum, Palmar continues to consider VE town.

Now if I assume that mafia want to blend in and hide, then yes, I can then assume that mafia!Palmar would not act this way. However, what of all my other truths about Palmar? Do I just dismiss them out of hand?


It seems like your analysis has left you without a conclusion. I may be biased, but I think no conclusion is entirely the correct conclusion in this world.

I again question why you think I trust you?
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 17:18 GMT
#394
On January 27 2015 02:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 02:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 27 2015 02:10 Palmar wrote:
Quite the opposite, I am just helping you understand that your current methods are unlikely to yield any reliable results!

I am here to help.


Reliable results on you or any of my own reads on anyone here?

I disregard meta on people I've not played with. You know I'm relatively new here. What do you think I should be doing?

For someone like yourself if what you say is true (you have no meta/alternate ways of playing), then why at this point, if I take you at face value, should I not scumread you for not solving the game at this point, or other relatively straightforward reasons I can justify?

Let yourself be free from the constraints of meta.

Go fly!

This.
The fact that you're unwilling to make reads because you don't know people's "meta" is off-putting.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2015 17:18 GMT
#395
can we expect you to tell us what you're after and what you got out of it by the end of today Palmar?
Today as in this literal day, not the mafia day
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 26 2015 17:18 GMT
#396
On January 27 2015 01:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.

You were being right so much, but now you have become wrong.

This worries me. Not for your sake, but for mine.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:19 GMT
#397
Looks like I'm leaving the office with Palmar as another scumread at this point, but GlowingBear is still my top scumread.

Top of the charts by a country mile.

I'll be in touch after dinner.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 26 2015 17:19 GMT
#398
On January 27 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 01:39 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar is talking to me as if he knows I'm town. If no one else is noticing this, there isn't much else I can do.

You were being right so much, but now you have become wrong.

This worries me. Not for your sake, but for mine.


Yes, but the initial concern was before I wrote that.

It is the initial concern I do not understand.
Computer says mafia
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#399
Palmar, last game we played together you were town and got really pissed off that I killed off one of your townreads.

What are you doing this game to stop this from happening again, bearing in mind that (a) it's easier to do that in a smaller game and (b) a mislynch hurts more in a smaller game?


Other updates: Half the Sky is clearly town. I feel that Robik and VisceraEyes are probably town for tilting, but I have no mafia priors on VE and one from close to a year ago on Robik, so it's difficult for me to falsify either feeling.


Also anyone whining about drunk posts but not reading and commenting on the big post with reads that came after it is a donkey and should be ashamed.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#400
Robik, if you're referring to me, I'm scumreading Palmar for that reason.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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