As for what we're doing, I owe Robik. I respect his skills enough to go give his case on GB a read. Maybe we can go there and see what happens.

I'm still ultimately okay with lynching liancourt. And I don't think Palmar and Toad can be mafia together, and I'm not really satisfied with Toad's post either, for reasons I'll get back to digging into later.

Palmar have you reposted your Toad case in the last few hours? I'll go read that too.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 20:44 GMT

#1265

Lookin now qtpi bbs

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 20:51 GMT

#1266

Robik bro, please disable your caps lock button for all time. I'm not saying that just to shit on you either. This is a great post that I literally completely ignored in your filter because I was scrolling through it on my phone earlier and saw capslock every time I read and just got irritated by the yelling and stopped reading.

Robik has a pretty good argument for GB's read on him being fabricated. It kinda reminds me of my argument on liancourt initially except it's a better example.

I still kinda like Toad as a lynch, so I want to finish reading things related to him before I put a vote down since we're close to the consolidation phase. But I'm thinking my vote will end up on GB now.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 20:53 GMT

#1267

Never mind, the word toad shows up in Palmar's filter literally 99 times as of this post. I'm not ctrl-f through that shit. Fuck you Palmar.

##VOTE: GlowingBear

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:20 GMT

#1270

On January 29 2015 05:58 Trfel wrote:
Untouchable Votecount

liancourt (3): ~~Toadesstern~~, Onegu, ~~Eden1892~~, ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~Eden1892~~, ~~Half the Sky~~, Toadesstern, Half the Sky
Toadesstern (2): ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~liancourt~~, ~~Palmar~~, Palmar, ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~Eden1892~~, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (2): ~~Half the Sky~~, IAmRobik, ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~Toadesstern~~, ~~VisceraEyes~~, Eden1892
Onegu (1): ~~Eden1892~~, liancourt
Palmar (0): ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~Eden1892~~, ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~Eden1892~~, ~~Half the Sky~~
IAmRobik (0): ~~GlowingBear~~, ~~Palmar~~, ~~GlowingBear~~
Eden1892 (0): ~~liancourt~~

Not voted (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.

Bolded red = People I'm okay lynching today.
Bolded without color = People who aren't in my town pile and who merit further observation.
Bolded green = People I'm not okay lynching.
Bolded blue = 100% town to me.

I'm going to post this so I can see the colors because I'm a visual learner.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:29 GMT

#1272

First thought is that it bothers me that one of the people I'm cool with lynching is literally only being voted for by either other people I'm cool with lynching or people I'm not sure about.

Second thought is that it bothers me that I'm this far into d1 and only have 2 townreads outside of myself.

Third thought is that the guy who's off doing his own thing is usually mafia.

Lemme try to put this together. If the heuristic I just cited is accurate here then liancourt is mafia. Toad's vote was forced due to self-defense even if he didn't acknowledge it at the time, so liancourt flipping mafia doesn't invalidate Toad being mafia. If liancourt is mafia then I think Onegu has to be town for pushing it so hard for so long.

Meh this didn't actually go anywhere cool. Sigh.

GB kinda counts as doing his own thing by tunneling Robik for dumb reasons and not really trying to convince people to lynch him right?

Think I'm gonna stick with the Bear on this one. Bear and lian are the best lynches today from what I can see, and if nothing else it'll force Robik to focus his energies on other people and help me solve this game. Plus I'm not dealing with another 4 days of him sulking and raging at me for not lynching Bear today.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:30 GMT

#1273

Palmar, I really don't think Toad is the lynch today. Will you please move off of him and onto GB?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:32 GMT

#1274

HTS, we'll consolidate, don't worry.

Not sure what to make of that trap at this point tbh. Like my gut says that it's just not something mafia does, but my brain says there's nothing stopping them from doing it, and I think Robik has a really good point about the (non-)progression of GB's read on Robik specifically and his reads in general.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:34 GMT

#1276

Actually you should stay on liancourt for now, just be ready to maybe move before EOD.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:34 GMT

#1277

Mainly cause I don't want you and Palmar flipping to make 4 on GB and then liancourt showing up and yolovoting GB

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:36 GMT

#1279

I almost want to make Palmar really mad by trying to yolowagon VisceraEyes. Nothing pisses off Palmar and puts him in tryhard solve-the-game mode like lynching his top town d1, and I've gotten this vague feeling that he's mafia for a while now.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:46 GMT

#1284

On January 29 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote:

Show nested quote +

Vague feeling that who is mafia? Palmar or VE?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:47 GMT

#1285

On January 29 2015 06:42 Palmar wrote:
why do people insist I'm trolling? I'm not.

I have a case.
I have a scumspect.
I want to lynch him.

KILL TOAD.

Look he's not done jack shit. His defense when I started calling him out is that people "went crazy". He's super paranoid (started talking as if he was going to die with 1 vote on him) which means he's super sensitive to people going after him.

he is mafia.

Quote your case please because your filter now has over 100 ctrl-f-able "toad" in it and I'm not sifting through that.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:49 GMT

#1286

Also if that was the summary of your case, your case is painfully weak. That's not even the best case for killing Toad that's been posted in the last 24 hrs.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:53 GMT

#1289

On January 29 2015 06:53 Half the Sky wrote:

Show nested quote +

His case is on page 37.

Yes, I actually remember that off the cuff, which is scary.

Even more scary, I have a 12 page D1 filter. None of my games I exceed 10 pages for an entire game.
Is hell freezing over yet?

Artanis should just give us a qt so we can stop posting so much. Amirite?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 21:56 GMT

#1290

Also if it's on p37 I'm a little underwhelmed. Palmar kind of almost gets to where I got when I was questioning Toad earlier but ends up detouring into "He waffled on GB" land when almost everyone this game ended up doing so. Toad's reads aren't evolving as I'd expect but that's not really the most damning thing about him IMO.

Still feeling like lynching Toad is the wrong call today.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 22:03 GMT

#1291

I dunno man maybe I'm being a donkey. But I feel like if Palmar cared about getting Toad lynched he would be trying harder to be convincing, you know?

Maybe Palmar's the right lynch after all? I'm struggling to see why someone who knows the theory side of town game as well as Palmar would be so... almost deliberately ineffective at persuading people.

The two biggest townreads in the game have literally voted him for being spammy and trolly. If you're in his shoes and genuinely trying to convince people to vote for someone, surely you aren't gonna keep on like this, right?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 22:09 GMT

#1296

Ugh fuck it. I expect better from Palmar. We gave him a day, he had the beginnings of a case on Toad and then spammed the thread with "kill Toad" without actually attempting to convince people to kill Toad. If he's going to insist he's not trolling then I'm going to treat his play with appropriate seriousness.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Palmar

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 28 2015 22:30 GMT

#1314

On January 29 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote:
Like seriously, if I'm wrong on this, just fucking lynch me tomorrow, I'll claim mafia and shut up.

Instead of doing this, will you not waste the day dicking around and be productive tomorrow?

If you're town. If you're mafia then sure whatever go ahead.