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GlowingBear...if you're town, let's start seeing some town agenda/actions from you, please. | ||
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Palmar....you didn't answer my question. You were scumreading Toad. Why would you throw in a policy vote over pushing Toad, a scumread of yours? Am I missing something? | ||
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On January 28 2015 09:20 Palmar wrote: HTS STOP TRYING TO USE META. I'll admit I tried. I admitted I hated it. I gave up. Next? | ||
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On January 28 2015 09:26 Eden1892 wrote: Wait hol up Palmar What is case on Toad Page 37. It looked pretty legit, which is why I tried following up on it. | ||
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Why does all the interesting events have to happen whilst I'm sleeping...ugh. I skimmed through the last 5 pages, but will review more in detail midday/lunch. Palmar, noted on the meta reads...fine. I understand what you are saying now on my use of them. I used them to get a better understanding of you, but generally with the way things work I don't use meta in hardly any of my cases. More to come... | ||
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I still find the Palmar voting sequence weird. Those two quoted posts I made, I could have sworn was based on an initial scumread on him (in addition to the one on Toad), so why did he say policy later? Am I missing something? I'll re-read when I have more time today. GlowingBear's exchange with Palmar, he is sounding a LOT more credible. I'd have to agree with Eden on that one. Still I'll look harder into things there. I don't understand Palmar punishing people because he wants to be a dick or however he phrased it but, if he's done that as both alignments, then it is probably NAI. But something doesn't feel right to me about the policy vote part when I could have sworn he was trying to find a reason to scumread GB. I don't know if what he posted on page 52 is a cover for a potential mafia action. Maybe it's just me being paranoid. On the flip side, he's pushing Toad. Still. Which is what a townie should be doing. And the argument against Toad does get more substantial when you consider the vote. | ||
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Onegu and Eden are spot on. I think you've had ONE good read all game, but I don't know why you're posting the way you are. You had better structured arguments in the NYE party mafia game, (using as a basis for comparison) so I know you're capable of town-driven posts, and these types of posts are clearly not it. You're also ignoring the people who are scumreading you (or have reason to). And that's a very bad sign. | ||
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I don't like associative reads again, but since night is silent I think we need to keep on the backs of our minds... Take a note on the interactions between those two. Lian has drawn attention to Toad's way of posting like he can't get a read on him. Is that a weak enough case where if he flips we might just leave Toad alone because he scumread him? It's WIFOM and such but it's something to consider. Toad has leaned towards Lian being scum but prioritised Onegu over him in each of his scum lists. Though I'm not seeing hard pushes on any of them. Maybe it sounds crazy but I thought I'd bring the idea up since some are scumreading (or at least null leaning scum) on at least one of these. | ||
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What does L-1, L-2 or whatever mean? Cheers. | ||
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After reviewing everything from when I went to bed, I'm going to say Lian and Toad are my top two for lynch (in that order). Stick to one of these since most of us are pretty sure. I don't see how Onegu is even on the table when he could have hammered a town GB during the time Palmar voted/unvoted (around 4:30pm GMT yesterday, and I'd quoted that). I recall him discouraging us from voting GB because of the martyr thing. Unless people are saying his arguments are bad, but he has been pushing Lian. Robik has been doing less and less. Off the cuff, my issue with Robik is that he doesn't seem to have any other scum reads than GB. | ||
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Can we get a vote count please? | ||
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We have 10 more hours we can try and discuss things otherwise we have to brace for a hammer at any point. Is anyone else in thread? (Palmar?) In which case I have no problems voting Toad. | ||
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On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote: Eden is town So this leaves: GB lian Toad Onegu But then again I'm bad and idk. The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right? I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much. On January 27 2015 23:30 Palmar wrote: who is mafia. Clearly, by this post, you don't think HTS is mafia, as do you think robik is. Me and my bro VE are town, and in your world you must be town. So that leaves Toad liancourt eden onegu two of which were your original townreads. lian/toad so that leaves Eden and Onegu as the mafia team. Eden isn't mafia, so.... onegu is mafia? I'm still a tad confused on what you were trying to do with GB. Were you scumreading him at all when you looked into this? And if you were how did a scumread become a policy vote? | ||
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On January 28 2015 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Like what kind of stuff do you want to discuss? And how do you know that anyone will even be around near lynch time? Honestly I think we should start thinking about just coming up with a lynch we can all agree on. Right now I'm looking at Onegu and lian, but Palmar could (if he tried) convince me to vote Toad. Fair, then, since I am ready to vote two people. Vote is already on Lian, but 3 are voting Toad. I'd be #4. Palmar's chief case on Toad, was on page 37. I think if you take that case on Toad along with seeing what he's done (or not done) lately will show why he's a good vote too. | ||
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On January 27 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote: This post is complete horseshit In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine. The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful | ||
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Why don't you think Lian, for example is a better candidate? | ||
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The other problem I'm having is he's not particularly pushing anyon aside from listing scumreads. At least not that I can recall. Also I knew there was another suspicious exchange...here it is. [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:53 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:33 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote: Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad?[/QUOTE] I've never done that as mafia ever. I'm not even sure if "against GB" means "against GB lynch" or "against GB (being town)" with the topic being what it is recently.[/QUOTE] So what? I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On January 27 2015 19:56 Toadesstern wrote: besides... I don't think I should talk about this stuff. I think I made my point clear: I'd prefer one of the other 2 for today. If GB happens to be the lynch I'm fine with lynching him too[/QUOTE] I don't like these quotes. Because to me, they sound like a scum who doesn't want to be held accountable for something he said if he were to backtrack, etc. What do you think? | ||
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