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On January 20 2015 23:23 Vivax wrote:
I'll just sheep marv and HF on SL today and if we get a town flip I'm rolling up my theory again.
If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does.
well as to being oblivious to SL I was mainly waiting for him to talk to me about lian and then a bunch of people started scum reading him so I had to go back and read through it.
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On January 20 2015 23:23 Vivax wrote:
I'll just sheep marv and HF on SL today and if we get a town flip I'm rolling up my theory again.
If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does.
but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?!
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On January 20 2015 23:24 sicklucker wrote:
So last game we play. we both play super bad. But after the games over he has no negative things to say. But the second were in a new game together hes policy lynching me? Da fuck its too convenient,
Me and lian were the biggest contributers to the carol of the bells game alone with like hts. ( whos not doing much)
Its weird for lian to suggest im not capable of helping town when I was the second most person who wanted to lynch Hf in that game and we solved it.
what do you think about his "well we know vivax is town" read.
and vivax immediately town reading him for this afterwards?
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Welcome to playing mafia with vivax hf
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On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read. so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing.
You sure about this, Oats? What did you think about his push on Wile?
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On January 20 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
Read post game of new years eve mafia. Does that sound like someone he wants to policy lynch ?
On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 23:53 sicklucker wrote:On January 18 2015 11:58 liancourt wrote:
i played my worst game of mafia.
i should really try and convince ppl next time...maybe not I pretty much just got mad at you for not helping me two games inarow and bet you for no reason -_- I'm not a good mafia player by all means, someone said there are 3 elements to being a good mafia player. 1. Having good reads. 2. Convincing others. 3. Surviving lynches. I'm not very good at #2 and when I do try to convince others I die really early which is prolly why i dont try lol After watching you play for 3 games...carol, imperial, this game...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker. The thing that I really didnt understand was that you townread me and you even tracked me, but somehow ended up voting me at the end. I knew mderg was town by the way he was posting on the last day so I wasn't going to switch votes to save myself and I was 100% sure of eden being mafia. When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched. My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic. And I guess i should try and convince others more of my reads...maybe not...depends.
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On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did.
The opposite of sidelines really.
Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch.
Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game.
Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game....
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On January 20 2015 23:28 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:24 sicklucker wrote:
So last game we play. we both play super bad. But after the games over he has no negative things to say. But the second were in a new game together hes policy lynching me? Da fuck its too convenient,
Me and lian were the biggest contributers to the carol of the bells game alone with like hts. ( whos not doing much)
Its weird for lian to suggest im not capable of helping town when I was the second most person who wanted to lynch Hf in that game and we solved it. what do you think about his "well we know vivax is town" read. and vivax immediately town reading him for this afterwards?
i think vivax agreed with me that marvs trying too hard to be scum. I think if someone didnt reach this conclusion there hella bad
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On January 20 2015 23:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:28 KelsierSC wrote:On January 20 2015 23:24 sicklucker wrote:
So last game we play. we both play super bad. But after the games over he has no negative things to say. But the second were in a new game together hes policy lynching me? Da fuck its too convenient,
Me and lian were the biggest contributers to the carol of the bells game alone with like hts. ( whos not doing much)
Its weird for lian to suggest im not capable of helping town when I was the second most person who wanted to lynch Hf in that game and we solved it. what do you think about his "well we know vivax is town" read. and vivax immediately town reading him for this afterwards? i think vivax agreed with me that marvs trying too hard to be scum. I think if someone didnt reach this conclusion there hella bad
I mean what do you think about lian's read on vivax and vice versa
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On January 20 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did.
The opposite of sidelines really. Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game....
it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though
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I dont think lian has real reads. He called vivax town 1 hour into the game. Hes right im not sure how he got his read.
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On January 20 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:23 Vivax wrote:
I'll just sheep marv and HF on SL today and if we get a town flip I'm rolling up my theory again.
If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does. but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?!
Cúrrently I just scrapped my theory I got from analysing the game and will see if you and marv, high caliber players, will lead town to a successful lynch today.
If not, be ready for a flaming comeback with my theory before the night ends.
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On January 20 2015 23:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read. so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing. Also he scumread me for going to sleep.
Hes better than that. He's also not pursued it at all. Basically HF hasn't pursued something further than it was worth pursuing, and that's quite a good sign. (wile, you) He would be fucking dumb to pursue it. The point is that he did make that case, and he did try and convince people to get on what is completely not a pressure vote. I dont even know what his read is on Wile or me, is better if he actually concluded shit rather than leaving it hanging. The thread had 2 pages since the start of the game when I arrived so I started discussion like crazy, your posting has improved markedly so I dropped you and put you in some arbitrary townyish pile. The same as wile e. who seemed quite genuine when he said he had no proper reads on people.
Apparently the discussion didnt actually lead to anything though.
A bit useless.
I thought your problem with wile wasnt that he had no reads, rather it was this,
You were pointing out things that make damdred look scummy. You were voting marv for a joke. You then pointed out things that make damdred's vote and talk about marv seem like it was easy to town read marv because he knows it's a town marv. You then say marv can be bussed and that's why your vote was still on him (even though it was a joke)? wut? by everything you were talking about and pointing out it looks like you would be thinking marv was town and damd mafia but maintained your vote on marv for no reason.
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On January 20 2015 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:24 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2015 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read. so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing. Also he scumread me for going to sleep.
Hes better than that. He's also not pursued it at all. Basically HF hasn't pursued something further than it was worth pursuing, and that's quite a good sign. (wile, you) He would be fucking dumb to pursue it. The point is that he did make that case, and he did try and convince people to get on what is completely not a pressure vote. I dont even know what his read is on Wile or me, is better if he actually concluded shit rather than leaving it hanging. The thread had 2 pages since the start of the game when I arrived so I started discussion like crazy, your posting has improved markedly so I dropped you and put you in some arbitrary townyish pile. The same as wile e. who seemed quite genuine when he said he had no proper reads on people. Apparently the discussion didnt actually lead to anything though. A bit useless. I thought your problem with wile wasnt that he had no reads, rather it was this, Show nested quote +You were pointing out things that make damdred look scummy. You were voting marv for a joke. You then pointed out things that make damdred's vote and talk about marv seem like it was easy to town read marv because he knows it's a town marv. You then say marv can be bussed and that's why your vote was still on him (even though it was a joke)? wut? by everything you were talking about and pointing out it looks like you would be thinking marv was town and damd mafia but maintained your vote on marv for no reason.
which he explained by saying he didn't agree with what kelsier he was just clarifying it
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On January 20 2015 07:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Look, you've done literally nothing. Most people have done nothing. You do something that's inconsistent with the miniscule amount of nothingness that is provided and I'm going to push it until you come up with a coherent reason why you're doing your inconsistency and then I can move onto the next person who is being quite clearly obnoxious for no apparent reason.
I want your thoughts on damdred that don't involve his post on oats that he hasn't explained yet. All I've seen is you agreeing that he wants to give an easy reason to town read marv later but fail to acknowledge the fact that that was what the wagon was about in the first place and instead ignore everything kelsier is pushing about it to have some kind of quarrel with me instead of just being transparent. There is no inconsistency. I agreed with the first argument Kelsier raised about Damdred. Later I clarified what he meant in one of his other posts because someone (you?) did not understand it. I did not say if I agree with it and to be frank I don't even know if I do.You want my thoughts on Damdred? He barely did anything. He weirdly jumped on oats when he was brought up and that's about it.
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Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town...
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On January 20 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote:On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did.
The opposite of sidelines really. Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game.... it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though
Listen, the HTS thingy was a mess. when I noticed that marv sheeped you on HTS but wasn't wondering why you scumread him, I didn't further read on. I simply posted my thoughts about what I saw there and made conclusions. Later marv said something like "I misread" to take the wind out of my sails . So far I still don't know why you have assumptions that marv could be scum, or not. How are you reading him now and why? (Oh I townread him now cause we both think the same about SL's weird posts).
Well, then go ahead. Lynch SL. And if he flips town, I'll have your heads on a spike on D2.
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Like killing me is so bad. Marvs getting mislynched day 2 for sure
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On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote:
Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town...
If you're town, I'm pretty sure you can show the thread/us that you are town before eod. So I wouldn't worry too much.
I am a kind and benevolent master.
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On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote:
Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town...
I don't really know who you are scum reading other than lian for doing an uncharacteristic push on you which I just proved wasn't actually uncharacteristic.
On January 20 2015 21:48 sicklucker wrote:
Ya bats is the only one who looked scummy here. Vivax always makes up reasons to scum read people nothing new here
what happened to scum reading bats too?
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