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On January 20 2015 06:26 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Why shouldn't we get rid of free marv today? Later today obviously. It's not very good pushing a lynch for a guy that's going to do nothing if he's just going to be obvious and do nothing is it? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote: I tried that strategy It didnt work out That's wonderful. You should try my suggestion and find other mafia instead of being stale and leaving your vote on him. It's not going to achieve anything in the long run. | ||
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On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote: I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone. HF makes me happy with that oats post. On January 20 2015 06:33 batsnacks wrote: Well maybe you're right... he never even voted marv he voted oats. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:38 Wile E. Coyote wrote: So instead of the guy that may be here lurking we should pressure the guy that went to sleep? That is your great plan, yes? Not only are you being absolutely useless posting like this but there is absolutely no negative to try and get people to take stances on someone that isn't here. Yes, marv is afk, yes he would be dejected if he rolled mafia again. That's the most obvious thing I've ever seen in this game and serves no purpose to talk about at all. If he's mafia his team will bus him and everyone's votes will have no effect. I'm making a post on oats - yes who is afk - I don't even care about oats to be honest, I care about people's responses. The game had 2 pages of content until I got here and started throwing up crap for people to talk about. Please don't be useless, it's quite obvious we shouldn't waste 48 hours talking about the same topic of if someone is going to play or isn't going to play before he's even posted 3 posts. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sir yes sir. What do you want me to do, sir? comment on something or give your own ideas? I've not seen you do anything but agree with kelsier about a damdred point that doesn't particularly make sense and then leave it alone and needlessly pick out me wanting to explore other avenues have you played with any of va/oats/marv/damd before? You agreed with kelsiers point on damd but do you think that it's scummy to phrase it like that? If kelsier is now saying what damdred said was actually a joke then why does it count as a point against him at all? If damd's intentions were quite clearly to vote for marv here: On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote: I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone. HF makes me happy with that oats post. then why is it a joke? or do you not think it was a joke and you are just agreeing with the first point that damd is setting himself up to town read marv? | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:01 Wile E. Coyote wrote: What about the damdred point I agreed with does not make sense? Don't you think that it is surprising how he says nothing about oats when it happens but is eager to jump on it when someone else mentions it later? Yes, I played with those players before. I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, I just want you to expand on your reasoning. I don't know what damd was doing or how it transpired because from the looks of it he was reading the story and just posted and missed the one tiny post from oats. Although this shows more the lack of caring about what others have posted more than anything else which I agree is bad, I wanted him to comment on things and answer for himself before I posted my own thoughts on it. On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud. I was also referring to this point, I wanted to know if you agreed further with kelsiers assumptions that damdred was actually joking about his marv vote and was setting himself up to town read marv or not. From what it looks like you think damd wasn't serious about his reasoning (for the record I have no problem with his reasoning of if marv does nothing he's likely mafia) and I can't tell why. | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: ##Vote Marvellosity which means you're on board with his wagon of pressure of if he does nothing he's mafia but then are critical of damdred for wanting to vote marv for the same reasons. It's pretty weird. | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: ##Vote Marvellosity On January 20 2015 02:15 Vivax wrote: I like this reason. Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling. But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens. You join vivax's train onto marv. Damdred gives his reasons to be on it which vivax agrees with. You maintain your vote on marv. You know their wagon is to pressure marv too see if he does anything and if he does he's probably not mafia - or at least might not be. You know this because you are reading the game and commented on their follow up posts. Yet, later you continue to go onto damdred points with things like: On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud. you add to kelsier point, you don't particularly weigh in but this comment looks like an agreement/criticism. Yet, we're still on you voting for marv despite you seemingly agreeing with kelsier about damd. It's weird that you stay on the marv wagon and even point out the damdred thing but still stay on the wagon which was made specifically for the reason damd pointed out | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Did my vote on Marvellosity seem very serious to you? Maybe you should have added this post to your little collection: So then why are you still voting for him with the person you're arguably most against? | ||
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I want your thoughts on damdred that don't involve his post on oats that he hasn't explained yet. All I've seen is you agreeing that he wants to give an easy reason to town read marv later but fail to acknowledge the fact that that was what the wagon was about in the first place and instead ignore everything kelsier is pushing about it to have some kind of quarrel with me instead of just being transparent. | ||
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1. Do you town/scum/null/null-townscum read damdred? 2. Do you think his push on marv is scummy because he's giving him an out? a) If so, why aren't you talking about vivax? b) Do you know marv's meta? What is there to disagree about in damdred's points? 3. Why are you being so obnoxious? In the first place you say that your vote on marv was a joke, yet in the second instance you say it shouldn't matter if your vote is on him if his team mates are bussing him. This implies that marv IS mafia when he hasn't even posted anything yet? Number 3 is very important because if your vote was simply a joke vote and you agreed that damd is giving marv an out if he just puts in work then you are saying that damd is scummy and giving a provision for marv to be town because a town marv would step up but yet you're still voting for marv and not damd. | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote: so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys thinking the opposite at the moment but the day is young, not really seen him make a push on people like that in my 1 mafia games of experience with him even if I disagree with it | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:58 Wile E. Coyote wrote: 1. I don't have a read on any player at this point. 2. His push on marv is not alignment indicative. I am familiar with marv's meta. 3. You are the one being obnoxious towards me. I am asking you why it matters because you are implying that I shouldn't be voting marv for the mentioned reason when earlier you said marv would be bussed. This question is not about them or me but about you because what you are saying makes no sense. You were pointing out things that make damdred look scummy. You were voting marv for a joke. You then pointed out things that make damdred's vote and talk about marv seem like it was easy to town read marv because he knows it's a town marv. You then say marv can be bussed and that's why your vote was still on him (even though it was a joke)? wut? by everything you were talking about and pointing out it looks like you would be thinking marv was town and damd mafia but maintained your vote on marv for no reason. ^ that's where the disconnect is happening. So, whatever, I'll leave you alone since you've explained your stuff. | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You are still putting words into my mouth. I will show you the timeline once last time: I voted Marvellosity. It was not a very serious vote which should be really really obvious if you read the thread. I pointed out something that makes damdred look scummy or rather I agreed with Kelsier about his point. -> the oats thing I told you the meaning of a different post by Kelsier which you did not seem to understand. Without giving any opinion on it. You attacked me for my vote since Damdred is voting for the same player after saying earlier that scum would probably bus marv. So why would you have a problem with my vote if you actually believed that I was serious about my vote and also strongly scumreading Damdred? I was just telling you what I saw and how I interpreted it. Drop it since you've already explained yourself. The problem is because if you were serious about the marv vote the point about damdred didn't make sense. (which you've already said wasn't a point you were agreeing with hence it's now irrelevant) | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:36 KelsierSC wrote: Bats care to explain how I misrepresented dam, I don't think you misrepresented damd (maybe his convo with vivax, it wasn't that bad tbh) but your points don't really mean that damd is scum because they are legitimate points to scum/town read marv on (whether marv plays mafia for a 3rd time in a row). The plausible point is the oats part but damd addressed that he missed it so take that as you will. | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:57 liancourt wrote: The votes on marv and oats are hilarious i expect them to move to sl Why are they hilarious? Are you saying that oats didn't do exactly what he was doing in carol? Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia? | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:02 Half the Sky wrote: HF and Damdred, can both of you elaborate how Marv plays when he IS town? Does he post a lot, is he emotional, etc? posts a lot, addresses most things, leads town? | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote: it matters because this logic makes no sense to me "I am going to pressure this person so they can prove to me they are town" "This is what the person has to do to convince me they are town" ........(that person i want to pressure is here, better not question them) "oh they did that thing, well they have to be town then" I don't know why you would write line 2 unless you wanted an excuse to town read marv in the first place. On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote: anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything. Hes gotta do something to be called scum. The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum. this just isn't true at all, marv has been mafia and we know he's mafia in past games when he's just done absolutely nothing at all hence why posts like damdred's make sense | ||
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