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On January 26 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote: Not gonna lie, apart from seeing that there are certain roles that are obviously made for town and certain ones obviously made for scum, I'm a little lost. I chose my role awhile back.
We're not thinking of massclaiming, are we? I don't actually think that would be the worst idea, especially if you wanted to maximize roles that help town narrow down scum and not end up with too many probes. We will mass claim.
You can change your role and you should if it doesn't fit my plan.
You're not a unique snowflake. Fall in line.
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by "we will massclaim" I mean eventually, not at day 1.
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It's pretty clear which roles should claim on day 1 (I will, the tempest should and the core should).
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Superbia is sounding pretty damn townie right about now.
Also marv is basically confirmed mafia at this point. Sucks to be him I guess. It's super hard to break out of your town meta when all you do is roll mafia.
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marv is mafia so he's not playing.
Robik might be dead?
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Just to explain why we have to kill him.
a) the reason I didn't say "hey someone take carrier or ht or dt or something" but specifically assigned the task to Onegu, is because I want control over these roles and I don't want them to people unless there are at least reasons to believe they are town.
b) Milkman wasn't being particularly townread by anyone I can remember. I actually think the only read that was given on him was me calling him the scummiest person in the thread.
c) We had a plan, milkman had plenty of time to argue against the plan and he didn't do it well enough to get people to follow an alternative.
d) of all the possible scum roles, Carrier is by far the best for this purpose because it is silent. If we get convinced he is town and he is actually mafia (for example if we don't lynch him and agree to check him instead) he gets to start setting up kills. Hell, he could even be the DT and claimed carrier just so he could say "hey go check me if you don't trust me"
Also, if he somehow is town, which I don't think is likely, I'm fucking nostradamus:
On January 25 2015 21:38 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes. tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp. The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.
On January 25 2015 21:09 Palmar wrote: The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.
If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).
The goal here is to CONTROL KP.
The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.
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On January 26 2015 17:55 Oatsmaster wrote: I said that but with less words. AM I TOWN PALMAR??!? No.
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On January 26 2015 18:09 The Milkman wrote: I was the one putting the plan forward Palmar, I was first. I was talking about the roles. I was saying which ones should be picked or not. I landed on 9th, I said to myself that I won't probably get a strong town role and I might as well pick something that is hard to kill during the night and if not (this is something that you omit! 2 armor and massive give great night survivability, for which Mafia does not need to care!) , I gain important information that in the eight of people above me this role sits. I'll say that again: I was first to acknowledge that Carrier is Mafia role, I was first to acknowledge that Warp Prism is the most Mafia role. I don't care about what read people had on me before the pick. I could've not claimed and I would not be lynched. Why would I claim then? I knew what I was undertaking. I honestly thought Carrier would be gone. I just wanted to know where it landed approximately, of course. I won't send interceptors. Moment somebody claims you lynch me, confirm me as Town and lynch the liar. It doesn't take a big brain to know that I should send them as fast as possible! But what if I am part of Mafia and I claimed Carrier, but some other guy actually has it? Well, nobody said that they gunned for Carrier in higher positions and I am full of shit, so I guess Carrier was not much of an importance to the Mafia team and supposing Onegu is Town, HT was neither. I honestly have no idea how these two roles might have landed in Town hands, especially at the spots I and Onegu are.
Palmar, did you go for WP as planned? Obi, did you go for Colossus as planned?
Snowflake alert!
Yes I went for WP.
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Actually on second thought. Making the colossus shoot you would probably be a good idea. I don't think SL or Oats have done actually anything this game to warrant being called town.
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We'll see, need more people to get in on the action.
Marv is a good alternative lynch because he is mafia.
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On January 26 2015 18:39 The Milkman wrote: Also I thought you were against a KP rampage my dear citizen.
Uncontrolled KP rampage.
I am 100% fine with KP I control. In fact, if I kill everyone in the game that is not me, I win the game. So it is directly in my best interest to kill everyone in the game.
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On January 26 2015 18:38 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 18:36 Palmar wrote: Actually on second thought. Making the colossus shoot you would probably be a good idea. I don't think SL or Oats have done actually anything this game to warrant being called town. Okay. I have an even better plan if you really want me dead. Onegu storms me. He can do that right now. We confirm him being a HT and we get rid of me and potentially SL/Oats that I am also suspicious of. Just don't cry over the spilt milk, citizen. I didn't actually think about that.
Also, whatever, you could be town (unless there is some magical way of dodging storms that I don't know about). Mafia probably wouldn't suggest a new way of getting themselves killed with 80% chance or something at the start of day 1.
You're still a moron.
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This is beautiful though, Onegu controlling the high templar means more KP for us on day 1.
Only problem is I'm not sure he'll agree with storming marv, with risking his own death, but still I think that'd be a fine idea.
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On January 26 2015 18:47 The Milkman wrote: Are we really with an SK here? Jesus. I am not a moron. You are for suggesting that. Would you really STILL uphold your claim that I am Mafia because I wanted to check whether Carrier is in game, because I wanted night protection and I could spite IdrA with my useful skill toi have if I were the last guy in the draft? Like Chezinu got a CPR Doc once off an unthinkable position, but I ain't a CPR Doc citizen. If I did not claim you would not lynch me, so think why would I claim. All I got is some bullshit on my ass while I could send interceptors and laugh my ass off with people running in circles screaming that they are going to die. What on earth are you talking about with an SK?
And no, I don't stand by the claim you are mafia. You might be, but there are other more likely candidates at the moment. Although this outburst of anger AFTER I had changed my mind seems fairly strange.
I do stand by the claim that if you are town you have a massive dose of "unique snowflake"-syndrome, which also usually indicates morons.
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Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?
@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia?
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On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote: Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?
@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia? i sound nothing like mafia. Nah its not reasonable. Mafia marv plays the game. this marv apparently doesnt. This is so wrong it hurts.
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you're going to get so rekt when I'm scum mderg.
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On January 26 2015 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 21:43 Palmar wrote:On January 26 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 20:47 Palmar wrote: Oats why do you sound so much like mafia?
@Oats, do you think it's reasonable to assume marv is mafia? i sound nothing like mafia. Nah its not reasonable. Mafia marv plays the game. this marv apparently doesnt. This is so wrong it hurts. how about no? Tell me when scum marv has failed to post anything of interest at all d1? literally every game he has played as scum ever.
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that's kind of his thing as mafia, just be so boring that I want to cry.
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