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On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense.
Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia.
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EWODP:
Less likely as in if you find one Mafia in the group you can shift your eyes to some other place.
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On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia.
sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always.
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On January 26 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia. sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always.
I must be an oldie then.
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On January 26 2015 13:36 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia. sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always. I must be an oldie then.
Yeah, my memory sucks.
Still I think it's better not to coincide, especially because this game has roles with sharp distinction of their usage pretty muich.
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On January 26 2015 13:41 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:36 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia. sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always. I must be an oldie then. Yeah, my memory sucks. Still I think it's better not to coincide, especially because this game has roles with sharp distinction of their usage pretty muich.
actually it doesnt really matter that much in a smaller game.
Regardless, you cant analyse alignment based on number picks.
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On January 26 2015 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:41 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:36 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia. sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always. I must be an oldie then. Yeah, my memory sucks. Still I think it's better not to coincide, especially because this game has roles with sharp distinction of their usage pretty muich. actually it doesnt really matter that much in a smaller game. Regardless, you cant analyse alignment based on number picks.
But Mafia's first agenda in PYP is to create a number picking strategy. It is not a stretch to say they'll try to put one guy as high as they can and then aim for some kind of mediocrity. I don't understand why you wan't to delegitimize analysis of Draft, numbers and picks.
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Adding to that: Mafia in this game can get A LOT of additional KP. Basically, they can enforce Armageddon on N2 with good enough picks and given they're not carelessly caught on D1/D2. So them getting good picks and then getting powerful roles is just freaking terrible.
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Ok I'm back but it's midnight. My plan is to feedback the scummiest claimed probe btw n1.
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On January 26 2015 13:51 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 13:41 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:36 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia. sub-optimal or not, check every fucking pyp game before. Mafia always pick coinciding numbers. Always. I must be an oldie then. Yeah, my memory sucks. Still I think it's better not to coincide, especially because this game has roles with sharp distinction of their usage pretty muich. actually it doesnt really matter that much in a smaller game. Regardless, you cant analyse alignment based on number picks. But Mafia's first agenda in PYP is to create a number picking strategy. It is not a stretch to say they'll try to put one guy as high as they can and then aim for some kind of mediocrity. I don't understand why you wan't to delegitimize analysis of Draft, numbers and picks.
Whatever it is, it doesnt help us TODAY.
So lets stop talking about eh?
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On January 26 2015 13:54 The Milkman wrote:
Adding to that: Mafia in this game can get A LOT of additional KP. Basically, they can enforce Armageddon on N2 with good enough picks and given they're not carelessly caught on D1/D2. So them getting good picks and then getting powerful roles is just freaking terrible.
But because of Palmar's plan, nobody was supposed to take any of the kp roles.
So it didnt matter how high they were.
Who is scum now?
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On January 26 2015 13:59 Onegu wrote:
Ok I'm back but it's midnight. My plan is to feedback the scummiest claimed probe btw n1.
Hmm... Mind tells me OK gut says people can do stupid stuff. I don't think anybody would claim Probe instead of claiming that they got a role, but doubting that never hurts, eh?
@Oats sure man, I was just again reinforcing the idea that we WILL look into the Draft as the game goes on, people love to forget the things established before or things just said, y'know.
Anyway we need more claims, basic stuff as Probe/got role/denied a scum role.
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EWODP:
Right I forgot claiming Probe tell Mafia who has roles >_> ffs you'd think I've got that understood already.
@Oats
But Mafia will take those roles because frankly they don't give a flying fuck if they can kill half of us N1 and then force an endgame on N2.
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Yeah thats why i didnt say we should claim the probe stuff.
Theres not enough info to do shit rolewise, so back to normal mafia.
Whos scum milk?
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On January 26 2015 13:28 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote:
Like I feel there's at least 1 mafia in the top 4. The fact that oats did not contest my claim to 2,1 while he does not know my alignment does not sit well with me. I feel like mafia would be more scared than town to get a low position, since town is able to outnumber mafia in terms of PRs quite easily, and rolling probe as mafia is probably pretty shitty.
I feel like only mafia would do this when they have secured a top 4 spot, and just try to get a middle spot.
Furthermore, when Palmar coined his grand plan, Oats, mderg, and Onegu started questioning Palmar's plan. I'm inclined to read Palmar town for now, so I feel like mafia would step up and contest his plans in some way.
Of the three, Onegu followed it up with sound logic, which he started updating on the fly. He's my top town.
Oats just seemed to fear monger. Did not interact with Onegu and his logic either. He just said "Palmar's trying hard so he's probably mafia, watch out!". Which may be relevant, but what's his thought process here? He does not come up with a plan on his own, nor does he try to figure out why Palmar's plan may be mafia favored. Is he trying to figure out palmar's alignment/rationale? Doesn't seem like it.
mderg made a comment to half-dispute Oats' question of Palmar's alignment, which I'm inclined to read null at the moment (just the comment). Comment didn't really add anything of worth, but it half-ass defended Palmar, who is sort of town. So whatever. Mmm. Why four specifically, I guess is my first question regarding this. But the basic premise seems sound. I also saw nothing scummy from Onegu. Only reservation with Oats is he's not the easiest player for me to read, anyway. My other question is, while scum wanting top spots to secure the line-up seems likely, what part of Palmar's plan is likely to deny scum the more scum-alighned roles? There were several that town didn't plan to claim, or at least that's how I understand it, so I'm not sure that contesting the plan in general would be alignment indicative in that sense. Eh, we just had to be on par with Mafia, they had enough time to discuss important roles, picking order and such, so we needed to make an analysis as well (and make it known). Palmar originally did not understand Warp Prism, the best role for Mafia. We had to make sure we know where it is going in the draft, so we can check the person holding it or at least keep them on the spotlight. The numbers as I have said will tell us more and more as the game goes on. Already we see three groups of the same numbers which tells us there is at most 1 Mafia in each of them. I do not agree with Oats that Mafia coincide with their picks. That's just sub-par play. Having a number and a high place in the queue does not make you Mafia although having a number that one person or two (sic!) makes you less likely to be Mafia on the account that it is sub-optimal to go for the same number as Mafia.
I'm assuming you mean it's sub-optimal for 1 mafia to go for the same number as another mafia.
So what do y'all think of Palmar's assertion that Marv is scum this game? I know he supposedly doesn't play much as scum at times.
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On January 26 2015 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah thats why i didnt say we should claim the probe stuff.
Theres not enough info to do shit rolewise, so back to normal mafia.
Whos scum milk?
I don't like Obi, too much going on with his plans and he did not yet say if he conformed to Palmar's plan.
Robik got only 'active' after role picking was close, the disinterest in planning phase is worrying at best.
Marvellosity seems disinterested and did not really contest Palmar, which is weird. At one point he is like "directing roles, revealing numbers is very good for town" and then he goes to hide his number.
I expect that things will be more lively tomorrow, everybody seems to be enjoying their weekend or something.
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On January 26 2015 14:20 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah thats why i didnt say we should claim the probe stuff.
Theres not enough info to do shit rolewise, so back to normal mafia.
Whos scum milk? I don't like Obi, too much going on with his plans and he did not yet say if he conformed to Palmar's plan. Robik got only 'active' after role picking was close, the disinterest in planning phase is worrying at best. Marvellosity seems disinterested and did not really contest Palmar, which is weird. At one point he is like "directing roles, revealing numbers is very good for town" and then he goes to hide his number. I expect that things will be more lively tomorrow, everybody seems to be enjoying their weekend or something.
So why is Palmar calling obi scum?
Is robik the only one disinterested in the planning phase?
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Just to explain why we have to kill him.
a) the reason I didn't say "hey someone take carrier or ht or dt or something" but specifically assigned the task to Onegu, is because I want control over these roles and I don't want them to people unless there are at least reasons to believe they are town.
b) Milkman wasn't being particularly townread by anyone I can remember. I actually think the only read that was given on him was me calling him the scummiest person in the thread.
c) We had a plan, milkman had plenty of time to argue against the plan and he didn't do it well enough to get people to follow an alternative.
d) of all the possible scum roles, Carrier is by far the best for this purpose because it is silent. If we get convinced he is town and he is actually mafia (for example if we don't lynch him and agree to check him instead) he gets to start setting up kills. Hell, he could even be the DT and claimed carrier just so he could say "hey go check me if you don't trust me"
Also, if he somehow is town, which I don't think is likely, I'm fucking nostradamus:
On January 25 2015 21:38 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, that plan leaves it way up to interpretation and scum could get lucky if multiple people pick the same thing so we got a ton of probes. tbh many probes is a lot better than too much kp. The way we lose this game is if town KPs the fuck out of itself and we can't tell apart dumbass cowboy townies who think they're shit and pick roles they shouldn't, and mafia who pretend to be what I just described.
On January 25 2015 21:09 Palmar wrote:
The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.
If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).
The goal here is to CONTROL KP.
The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.
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