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rsoultin
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On January 20 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote: No clue DP is a better player than that though I don't know him. Eh, could just be bad play, but with a tfel/lm scum team he's a very likely third in my eyes. Just have to see how it plays out. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:48 DarthPunk wrote: Don't lynch: Geript, GB, dam dried, in counterclaimed blues. Everyone else is on the table. Also fuck phone posting and auto correct. -snorts- seriously? you can't narrow it down more than the obvious ones? after going through everyone's filters? this is pretty disappointing. Okay, well... Trfel, LM for the reasons I described earlier...then look into DP/Breshke unless it turns out JJB false-claimed, in which case: Trfel, JJB...then look into Geript/LM/Breshke At least, that's what I would do. Everyone else I'm more or less townreading, and geript should be townread unless one of those wagons were scum. Then he's on the table again. | ||
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I will be good and not gloat...but know that I want to, especially regarding the doubters I was fighting with all Day 1 ##vote: Trfel | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote: Also rsoultin remember when your BS Meter going off on Tfrel? Well now you know the reason lynch him with me since I'm the Town Cop! Now I understand why you were so determined to get Damdred to tell you if he was a doc or not xP | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote: So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two. Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it. For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia 5) DarthPunk (filter) 6) The Shining (filter) 8) LoneMeow (filter) 10) geript (filter) So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town). So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM. I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. We have a ton of time. I will say that I would not be so quick to townread geript, though. I was questioning about his shifty trfel read at EoD, which he refused to answer. There is also a paranoid part of me that thinks it is very, very interesting that as soon as I produced my trfel case, he broke with his 10 post rule...I have to wonder if he wasn't trying to bury it with all the chatter. Also, look at his reaction to the nk and the cop claim. Does that look like someone who is excited that we probably found scum today? I think it's ridiculous that he went out of his way to post about why wasn't he the night kill. Why would he be? He led a mislynch on WW and had no post-lynch analysis...no night thread presence at all... Which suggests to me his reason for bringing it up was to get ahead of others questioning why he isn't dead. Kinda silly, cause I at least wouldn't have questioned it at all. | ||
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Long and short of it is I don't think we should rule anyone out just yet. | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:32 geript wrote: They didn't kill me. They didn't kill DP. They didn't kill JJB. DP just shoots me here. I'm calling him town and he knows I'd catch him. JJB's the oddball, but RB him and shooting a good player is strategy that wins. Like your team just pulled the same shit tier move in imperial... Twice. Like If you can't see the bus play from rsoultin then you're either mafia or you're bad. Maybe I'm just irritable. But why the fuck as town would rsoultin ask me about my Trfel read 4 times or some shit like that when I fucking explained it in my goddamn fourth post. Then she asks the same shit 3-4 times which I tucking explain each time and she mystically "doesn't get it and finds it scummy." She can't possibly be that fucking dense. Plus the JJB read is really awkward. Okay, geript. I will find the posts in your filter and highlight them since for some reason you're not getting what I am asking you. I've seen you shit the bed as town in Imperial, so I can believe that this attitude could come from you either way, but I find it hard to believe you still don't understand my question. You can't possibly be that fucking dense ^^ | ||
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On January 18 2015 11:57 geript wrote: Town: Rsoultin LightningStrike Don't Lynch for now: Darth Punk Damdred TheWarWaffle Trfel Null: Breshke LoneMeow CoolTLname TheShining Good Lynches: Jarjarbinks Trfel GlowingBear On January 19 2015 04:19 geript wrote: ##vote glowingbear The PoE hasn't really changed. LM, GB, JJB, Trfel and Shining are all decent lynches imo. If expect to see someone add good reasons if the want to lynch WW, Breshke or Trfel. [...] ^I'm not asking you why you don't want to lynch Trfel. I'm asking you why he keeps making both your good lynches and do not lynch lists. Do you understand me now? | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:56 geript wrote: I did not shit the bed in imperial. Not even close. Matter of opinion, but the point is I think if you'd been less combative you probably would have been fine and not mislynched. Regardless, take it as the concession it is. I'm saying your attitude is not alignment-indicative and shouldn't be held against you. | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:07 geript wrote: And I explained that. Read the fourth post. Read my answers to your question. I found good reasons to think Trfel might be mafia. Thus he's a good lynch. I also found good reasons why I thought he was town. Thus why I don't want to lynch him. It's not fucking rocket science. Okay, let's try this again. Why is he the only one you can't decide where to put him? What makes him special? Are you saying that all your other good lynches never did anything that you thought might be town? | ||
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Please also explain why you decided not to stick to the 10 posts a day phase thing, Geript, if you care to answer me. Thank you. | ||
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Okay. Then it's still a bit confusing to me how Trfel earned his own special do not lynch this scum spot, but regardless of your alignment I am not going to get a different answer from you. Thanks for bearing with me. You really get pretty steamed about being questioned. It's not personal, I hope you know. | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:31 geript wrote: I needed to actually talk to DP and find a good lynch. Posting is rather addictive. If trfel flips scum which...highly likely he will...your timing was unfortunate. Your 7th post was soon after my case. That is when you started posting back and forth with DP and didn't mention the case until he brought it up. To someone like me...that is suspicious when Trfel is scum. I understand that you will say that was not the reason regardless, but I'm just calling it like I see it. Who do you think is scum now? | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:32 geript wrote: No. I don't give a fuck about being questioned. I give a fuck about being questioned for for absolutely stupid shit when any person should be able to easily read me as town. Consider it a compliment to your ability to play this game. I think you're capable of townie posts as scum. ^^ | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:45 geript wrote: I dearly miss promethelax. People literally have no fucking clue how to read me when I'm literally the easiest get to read ever. To be fair, while I can't rule you out completely because you've done some questionable things (in my mind) I do think it highly unlikely that you'd derail a town train onto another town. As long as JJB is town, which I still believe he is, you're not on my immediate lynch list. More like a...if no one else I think is scum flips scum I have to look at you again, sorta deal. | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:53 DarthPunk wrote: I also think Rsoultin could easily be scum and bussed Trifel from the start. Like without meta involved Trefels opening was objectively townie. Then rsoultin comes up with some difficult to confirm reasoning on why he is scum and now is trying to mislynch the two best townies in the game off it. It is so transparent. Or...you can realize that I've played with Trfel more than almost anyone here, and it was his responses to my questions + his lack of any useful content that prompted the scumread. His opening was unusual for him but fine. It was his reaction to my pressure that made me suspicious. This two towniest town thing is getting old -_- I think you have come across as town for the most part, DP, but you and geript are probably the only ones with no doubt at all about your "towniness", even if you are both town. Sorry to break it to you. | ||
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I find an insta-pressure vote right off the block null rather than townie. I think I've already mentioned that. It is a low-risk way to get townread if you're scum. Which unless LS is lying (which I can't find a good scum reason to false claim the beginning of the day phase with a red check before lylo) seems to be exactly what happened. | ||
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On January 20 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back guys and honestly let's kill our confirmed scum today and try to figure out by association who is scum. Also DP me and rsoultin been playing with Tfrel since he started TL Mafia so ofc me and her had a weird reaction to his Opening and now it makes complete sense of why he opened the way he did. I'd be surprised if there were a counterwagon, honestly, unless people are just convinced you're lying LS. So where are you at in your reads right now? | ||
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On January 20 2015 11:49 The Shining wrote: This post is going to be a little rushed but I'll be able to expand on it once I'm done packing. It's one of my only days off today and I move at the end of the month. LS Cop claim seems pretty honest. I don't see scum coming out with a blue claim at the very beginning of D2 with a red check. ##Vote:Trfel Damdred's case on LM - it's not 100% convincing but more than enough to make me look into LM, which is something I've been meaning to do. I do see the seeming disinterest in the game which is not something I expect from Town, who should be actively trying to figure out this game. I also didn't like the switch from JJB to WW. I'm not going to quote what was already quoted but LM's posts are bare, don't really contribute to conversation and don't seem consistent. I know reads evolve as the game progresses but without any explanation, I'm not sure how you get away with a one-liner to lynch WW with misinformation, since WW voted GB before Trfel did. It looks bad that that is his last post in his filter. AFK a vote on Town at EoD and not be heard from since seems scummy. I originally had Geript as a strong, even unlynchable townread. I'm going to rescind that for the last minute pull back from GB to WW. I need a little more time to see if Geript's post about RSo holds any weight but like I mentioned I'm a little swamped today. He isn't backing down from RSo(whose questioning I'm convinced can come from either scum or town since I know her) and although it isn't alignment indicative, it gives us more to analyze. I would think scum would eventually backtrack in fear of getting caught saying something that could be used against them. Also, no one has really looked at the interactions between Geript and RSo besides DP from what I've read, which makes me think there is a small chance they are both actually Town. Scum sit back, let them pressure eachother, and once it's gone deep enough, pressure one or the other into a mislynch.  You claimed you can read me as scum, Shining, after my first two scum games.That said, you're right, I can still be active as scum. Probably not this active, but town would be remiss not to at least consider the possibility. I'll be interested in your reads once you've had more time to go through everything. | ||
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