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Definitely doesn't feel as good in hindsight. I'll need to go back and look at all my reasons for reading Breschke as town though. I know part of it was newb reasoning.
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brb, I must shave. My face is annoying hte piss out of me.
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On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd
Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.)
On January 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:Damdred i had a look at jarjars filter and am probably agreeing with you. Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 18:32 jarjarbinks wrote:On January 17 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:43 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:35 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
What does everyone think of Trfel after his weird vote on Geript?
This is the first time I seen him do policy lynching Day 1 so I have no idea if he's town or not based on meta alone. Well I don't think you need to use meta especially on such a new player. To me it seemed like a very townie thing to do even though it was bad and wrong. Which newbie scum player is going to try and policy lynch a vet at the start of the game? Shows no fear of being controversial in the thread. Shit like that rarely happens for new scum players. Sorry to break it to you but Tfrel is not entirely new since he played 3 games with me with 1 of them me being scum and him town and the rest we were both town together so I know his town meta but this is something he never done at the opening of any of the games I played with him. LOL. Sorry to break it to you but 3 games is still new. Meh fair enough. What are your thoughts on Tfrels actions so far? Are you not reading the thread? I just said I thought it was townie. Like we were just talking about that. Ops I was just a little bit to tunneled on replying to you. I do agree his behavior is most likely town to policy lynch a vet player Day 1 but it not exactly good idea to do it (shurgs) This is behavior that doesn't surprise me. I'm using this quote because I feel like it best justifies my argument for why I think he's town. Last game (this is a meta read), LS did things like this and got decimated for it. Almost got killed D1. Got killed D2. I would hope this doesn't happen again. On the argument that LS is acting more "ballsy" and that "ballsy=mafia" I would counter with that LS is learning the game and is more confident. Plus, I felt he was kind of right in sticking up for himself in saying that trfel had playing 3 games and that was less "newby" than people were giving him credit for. IF I had to pick someone to be "the towniest of the town", I would pick LS. He has generated discussion. He is acting similiarly to last game where he was town. Only way to lynch this guy D1 would be to policy lynch him for lack of experience. This read is almost baseless. Amid all the fluff the two reasons for the town read are that he generated discussion and meta. As to the generated discussion part i would say many players have done this. The first two that come to mind are Trfel and GB with both of their openings. However in the spoiler below you can see that Jarjar doesn't think that them making waves with their opening is alignment indicative but thinks the fact that LS has generated discussion is townie. The thought process here doesn't seem to line up. + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2015 18:48 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 15:35 Trfel wrote:GlowingBear, I'm assuming that you typed those posts over the course of reading the game? So the first things you said were not influenced on the later things? The rest of this post will be using that assumption. You read jarjarbinks D1 from the previous game (Newbie Mafia). You know that his play was miserable on D1 there as well, and he was town (his play was considerably better after D1). Someone is going to have to teach him how to play D1 (looking at you rsoultin), but I don't think I can see myself lynching him for inactivity, even if he provided a terrible excuse for it. On January 17 2015 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 17 2015 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think there is a voting thread for this game fyi guys. Also what is the BS Meter? I never heard you use this term before can you explain it please? OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE What is so horrible about this post? I mean, it is surprising that LightningStrike didn't know what rsoultin meant by BS meter, but I don't understand why that makes it a horrible post. Are you saying that LightningStrike is scum because of this, or just that the post is bad? I also noticed that you said that one of my posts was bad, and then one of my paragraphs was bad and full of fluff. Then you townread me. What is the reasoning behind this read? That I attempted to follow your advice for promoting discussion? (for the record, I fully realize that your entrance post is intended to do the exact same thing, and I tried to make a point of it, but no one else responded, so..)Also, why the emphasis on Damdred? + Show Spoiler [For GlowingBear] +For obvious reasons we can't discuss the effectiveness of my attempts to promote discussion now, but hopefully you can help me with this after the game? I bolded the part (I hope lol) of this quote that I thought summed up my thoughts on Trfel and GlowingBear. Trfel's vote and GlowingBears equally "interesting" opening is probably due to the strategy GlowingBear helped give Trfel. GlowingBear's explanation of Trfel's Vote makes this WIFOM in my eyes. They both started the way they did to make waves and nothing more. Not alignment indicative in my eyes. That being said, I'm more suspicious of GlowingBear over Trfel because of his playing experience. A counterargument to this for Trfel is his "stubbornness" on the bottom of page 8. Strange play if you were just trying to "make waves". He could just feel a necessity to defend himself, but I felt the arguments against his vote were relatively weak at the time. Saying what I said above about GlowingBear, I feel like he might want to try doing something else besides claiming VT at the beginning if that was the "making waves" play that shows balls. Us newbs killed LS for just that last game and we (mostly me) are slow learners. Also secondly on his meta point he has played one game as town and has never seen him as mafia so that isn't really justified either. Hence i think his LS read is fairly scummy
Personally not a fan of this read of his and I've already discussed why with him, but that's not the point. This was the only strong scumread in his filter. Come EoD, big hullabaloo with GB and all that noise, you see Breshke attempting to push his scumread:
On January 18 2015 21:24 Breshke wrote:
Yeah its fairly shit isnt it.
##Vote:JJB/b]
I still think this would be the lynch today even thoughpeople familiar with him seem to disagree
While still trying to determine the alignment of the main wagon:
On January 18 2015 21:26 Breshke wrote:
Ffs
##Vote:JJB
Currently id also be down for a GB lynch
On January 19 2015 05:23 Breshke wrote:
GB if damdred wadsnt an option who would you go for?
On January 19 2015 05:30 Breshke wrote:
Also GB what do you think of jarjar?
[B]On January 19 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
Btw im not intrested in lynching GB today anymore. I really think jarjaf is the way to go
There are some other examples of him trying to understand why players were voting for one another, but the point is his play lined up with his reads and he seems to be actively looking for the best lynch and engaging with other players (until he AFKd)
Then of course his play picked up in Day 2 and has been much better since, which isn't really that odd a trend given how much of a clusterfuck the first day phase usually is in these games.
I don't see someone stubbornly clinging to a read against all evidence, or content to just park a vote for whatever reason. That progression reads townie enough to me to fit in with his improved filter later.
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On January 24 2015 17:13 geript wrote:
I will say he has far fewer posts than it felt like he had.
Yeah this. Dude is flying under the radar.
I was kinda putting him toward the townier end of the spectrum but re-reading his filter I can't really define why I was doing that at all.
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On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.) Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:Damdred i had a look at jarjars filter and am probably agreeing with you. On January 17 2015 18:32 jarjarbinks wrote:On January 17 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:43 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:35 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:
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This is the first time I seen him do policy lynching Day 1 so I have no idea if he's town or not based on meta alone. Well I don't think you need to use meta especially on such a new player. To me it seemed like a very townie thing to do even though it was bad and wrong. Which newbie scum player is going to try and policy lynch a vet at the start of the game? Shows no fear of being controversial in the thread. Shit like that rarely happens for new scum players. Sorry to break it to you but Tfrel is not entirely new since he played 3 games with me with 1 of them me being scum and him town and the rest we were both town together so I know his town meta but this is something he never done at the opening of any of the games I played with him. LOL. Sorry to break it to you but 3 games is still new. Meh fair enough. What are your thoughts on Tfrels actions so far? Are you not reading the thread? I just said I thought it was townie. Like we were just talking about that. Ops I was just a little bit to tunneled on replying to you. I do agree his behavior is most likely town to policy lynch a vet player Day 1 but it not exactly good idea to do it (shurgs) This is behavior that doesn't surprise me. I'm using this quote because I feel like it best justifies my argument for why I think he's town. Last game (this is a meta read), LS did things like this and got decimated for it. Almost got killed D1. Got killed D2. I would hope this doesn't happen again. On the argument that LS is acting more "ballsy" and that "ballsy=mafia" I would counter with that LS is learning the game and is more confident. Plus, I felt he was kind of right in sticking up for himself in saying that trfel had playing 3 games and that was less "newby" than people were giving him credit for. IF I had to pick someone to be "the towniest of the town", I would pick LS. He has generated discussion. He is acting similiarly to last game where he was town. Only way to lynch this guy D1 would be to policy lynch him for lack of experience. This read is almost baseless. Amid all the fluff the two reasons for the town read are that he generated discussion and meta. As to the generated discussion part i would say many players have done this. The first two that come to mind are Trfel and GB with both of their openings. However in the spoiler below you can see that Jarjar doesn't think that them making waves with their opening is alignment indicative but thinks the fact that LS has generated discussion is townie. The thought process here doesn't seem to line up. + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2015 18:48 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 15:35 Trfel wrote:GlowingBear, I'm assuming that you typed those posts over the course of reading the game? So the first things you said were not influenced on the later things? The rest of this post will be using that assumption. You read jarjarbinks D1 from the previous game (Newbie Mafia). You know that his play was miserable on D1 there as well, and he was town (his play was considerably better after D1). Someone is going to have to teach him how to play D1 (looking at you rsoultin), but I don't think I can see myself lynching him for inactivity, even if he provided a terrible excuse for it. On January 17 2015 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 17 2015 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think there is a voting thread for this game fyi guys. Also what is the BS Meter? I never heard you use this term before can you explain it please? OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE What is so horrible about this post? I mean, it is surprising that LightningStrike didn't know what rsoultin meant by BS meter, but I don't understand why that makes it a horrible post. Are you saying that LightningStrike is scum because of this, or just that the post is bad? I also noticed that you said that one of my posts was bad, and then one of my paragraphs was bad and full of fluff. Then you townread me. What is the reasoning behind this read? That I attempted to follow your advice for promoting discussion? (for the record, I fully realize that your entrance post is intended to do the exact same thing, and I tried to make a point of it, but no one else responded, so..)Also, why the emphasis on Damdred? + Show Spoiler [For GlowingBear] +For obvious reasons we can't discuss the effectiveness of my attempts to promote discussion now, but hopefully you can help me with this after the game? I bolded the part (I hope lol) of this quote that I thought summed up my thoughts on Trfel and GlowingBear. Trfel's vote and GlowingBears equally "interesting" opening is probably due to the strategy GlowingBear helped give Trfel. GlowingBear's explanation of Trfel's Vote makes this WIFOM in my eyes. They both started the way they did to make waves and nothing more. Not alignment indicative in my eyes. That being said, I'm more suspicious of GlowingBear over Trfel because of his playing experience. A counterargument to this for Trfel is his "stubbornness" on the bottom of page 8. Strange play if you were just trying to "make waves". He could just feel a necessity to defend himself, but I felt the arguments against his vote were relatively weak at the time. Saying what I said above about GlowingBear, I feel like he might want to try doing something else besides claiming VT at the beginning if that was the "making waves" play that shows balls. Us newbs killed LS for just that last game and we (mostly me) are slow learners. Also secondly on his meta point he has played one game as town and has never seen him as mafia so that isn't really justified either. Hence i think his LS read is fairly scummy Personally not a fan of this read of his and I've already discussed why with him, but that's not the point. This was the only strong scumread in his filter. Come EoD, big hullabaloo with GB and all that noise, you see Breshke attempting to push his scumread: Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 21:24 Breshke wrote:
Yeah its fairly shit isnt it.
##Vote:JJB/b]
I still think this would be the lynch today even thoughpeople familiar with him seem to disagree While still trying to determine the alignment of the main wagon: Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 21:26 Breshke wrote:
Ffs
##Vote:JJB
Currently id also be down for a GB lynch Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 05:23 Breshke wrote:
GB if damdred wadsnt an option who would you go for? Show nested quote +[B]On January 19 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
Btw im not intrested in lynching GB today anymore. I really think jarjaf is the way to go There are some other examples of him trying to understand why players were voting for one another, but the point is his play lined up with his reads and he seems to be actively looking for the best lynch and engaging with other players (until he AFKd) Then of course his play picked up in Day 2 and has been much better since, which isn't really that odd a trend given how much of a clusterfuck the first day phase usually is in these games. I don't see someone stubbornly clinging to a read against all evidence, or content to just park a vote for whatever reason. That progression reads townie enough to me to fit in with his improved filter later.
Yeah I agree that the passage of posts you quoted look townie when you put it like that. But honestly those questions don't seem to lead anywhere. Like he doesn;t draw a conclusion from it or at least doesn;t share his conclusions with the thread.
Also GB looked townie enough for a huge wagon on him to completely dissipate within like 15 min or so.
So it's not like Breshke was doing something against thread sentiiment. The place he ended up was bad. Period.
And JJB was NOT a realistic candidate because neither Gewrit nor myself really tried nor wanted to lynch him. And honestly we were going to get the lynch we wanted day one.
And the reason we didn't want to lynch him was because of parallels we drew to Slam at the start.
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On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.)
This part is untrue as explained in above post. I can see where you are going with this and it does give bresh some cred but not as much as you seem to believe IMO.
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On January 24 2015 17:41 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.) On January 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:Damdred i had a look at jarjars filter and am probably agreeing with you. On January 17 2015 18:32 jarjarbinks wrote:On January 17 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:43 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 07:35 DarthPunk wrote:
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Well I don't think you need to use meta especially on such a new player.
To me it seemed like a very townie thing to do even though it was bad and wrong.
Which newbie scum player is going to try and policy lynch a vet at the start of the game?
Shows no fear of being controversial in the thread. Shit like that rarely happens for new scum players. Sorry to break it to you but Tfrel is not entirely new since he played 3 games with me with 1 of them me being scum and him town and the rest we were both town together so I know his town meta but this is something he never done at the opening of any of the games I played with him. LOL. Sorry to break it to you but 3 games is still new. Meh fair enough. What are your thoughts on Tfrels actions so far? Are you not reading the thread? I just said I thought it was townie. Like we were just talking about that. Ops I was just a little bit to tunneled on replying to you. I do agree his behavior is most likely town to policy lynch a vet player Day 1 but it not exactly good idea to do it (shurgs) This is behavior that doesn't surprise me. I'm using this quote because I feel like it best justifies my argument for why I think he's town. Last game (this is a meta read), LS did things like this and got decimated for it. Almost got killed D1. Got killed D2. I would hope this doesn't happen again. On the argument that LS is acting more "ballsy" and that "ballsy=mafia" I would counter with that LS is learning the game and is more confident. Plus, I felt he was kind of right in sticking up for himself in saying that trfel had playing 3 games and that was less "newby" than people were giving him credit for. IF I had to pick someone to be "the towniest of the town", I would pick LS. He has generated discussion. He is acting similiarly to last game where he was town. Only way to lynch this guy D1 would be to policy lynch him for lack of experience. This read is almost baseless. Amid all the fluff the two reasons for the town read are that he generated discussion and meta. As to the generated discussion part i would say many players have done this. The first two that come to mind are Trfel and GB with both of their openings. However in the spoiler below you can see that Jarjar doesn't think that them making waves with their opening is alignment indicative but thinks the fact that LS has generated discussion is townie. The thought process here doesn't seem to line up. + Show Spoiler +On January 17 2015 18:48 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 15:35 Trfel wrote:GlowingBear, I'm assuming that you typed those posts over the course of reading the game? So the first things you said were not influenced on the later things? The rest of this post will be using that assumption. You read jarjarbinks D1 from the previous game (Newbie Mafia). You know that his play was miserable on D1 there as well, and he was town (his play was considerably better after D1). Someone is going to have to teach him how to play D1 (looking at you rsoultin), but I don't think I can see myself lynching him for inactivity, even if he provided a terrible excuse for it. On January 17 2015 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 17 2015 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think there is a voting thread for this game fyi guys. Also what is the BS Meter? I never heard you use this term before can you explain it please? OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE What is so horrible about this post? I mean, it is surprising that LightningStrike didn't know what rsoultin meant by BS meter, but I don't understand why that makes it a horrible post. Are you saying that LightningStrike is scum because of this, or just that the post is bad? I also noticed that you said that one of my posts was bad, and then one of my paragraphs was bad and full of fluff. Then you townread me. What is the reasoning behind this read? That I attempted to follow your advice for promoting discussion? (for the record, I fully realize that your entrance post is intended to do the exact same thing, and I tried to make a point of it, but no one else responded, so..)Also, why the emphasis on Damdred? + Show Spoiler [For GlowingBear] +For obvious reasons we can't discuss the effectiveness of my attempts to promote discussion now, but hopefully you can help me with this after the game? I bolded the part (I hope lol) of this quote that I thought summed up my thoughts on Trfel and GlowingBear. Trfel's vote and GlowingBears equally "interesting" opening is probably due to the strategy GlowingBear helped give Trfel. GlowingBear's explanation of Trfel's Vote makes this WIFOM in my eyes. They both started the way they did to make waves and nothing more. Not alignment indicative in my eyes. That being said, I'm more suspicious of GlowingBear over Trfel because of his playing experience. A counterargument to this for Trfel is his "stubbornness" on the bottom of page 8. Strange play if you were just trying to "make waves". He could just feel a necessity to defend himself, but I felt the arguments against his vote were relatively weak at the time. Saying what I said above about GlowingBear, I feel like he might want to try doing something else besides claiming VT at the beginning if that was the "making waves" play that shows balls. Us newbs killed LS for just that last game and we (mostly me) are slow learners. Also secondly on his meta point he has played one game as town and has never seen him as mafia so that isn't really justified either. Hence i think his LS read is fairly scummy Personally not a fan of this read of his and I've already discussed why with him, but that's not the point. This was the only strong scumread in his filter. Come EoD, big hullabaloo with GB and all that noise, you see Breshke attempting to push his scumread: On January 18 2015 21:24 Breshke wrote:
Yeah its fairly shit isnt it.
##Vote:JJB/b]
I still think this would be the lynch today even thoughpeople familiar with him seem to disagree While still trying to determine the alignment of the main wagon: On January 18 2015 21:26 Breshke wrote:
Ffs
##Vote:JJB
Currently id also be down for a GB lynch On January 19 2015 05:23 Breshke wrote:
GB if damdred wadsnt an option who would you go for? On January 19 2015 05:30 Breshke wrote:
Also GB what do you think of jarjar? [B]On January 19 2015 06:24 Breshke wrote:
Btw im not intrested in lynching GB today anymore. I really think jarjaf is the way to go There are some other examples of him trying to understand why players were voting for one another, but the point is his play lined up with his reads and he seems to be actively looking for the best lynch and engaging with other players (until he AFKd) Then of course his play picked up in Day 2 and has been much better since, which isn't really that odd a trend given how much of a clusterfuck the first day phase usually is in these games. I don't see someone stubbornly clinging to a read against all evidence, or content to just park a vote for whatever reason. That progression reads townie enough to me to fit in with his improved filter later. Yeah I agree that the passage of posts you quoted look townie when you put it like that. But honestly those questions don't seem to lead anywhere. Like he doesn;t draw a conclusion from it or at least doesn;t share his conclusions with the thread. Also GB looked townie enough for a huge wagon on him to completely dissipate within like 15 min or so. So it's not like Breshke was doing something against thread sentiiment. The place he ended up was bad. Period. And JJB was NOT a realistic candidate because neither Gewrit nor myself really tried nor wanted to lynch him. And honestly we were going to get the lynch we wanted day one. And the reason we didn't want to lynch him was because of parallels we drew to Slam at the start.
Reread the vote DP please -_-
People on the whole were not interested in moving onto that WW lynch. Most of your sheepers came after JJB claimed. I spent a good few minutes trying to decide whether or not to switch my own vote cause frankly they all felt like shit ^^ but I had stronger townreads on GB and JJB than WW.
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On January 24 2015 17:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.) This part is untrue as explained in above post. I can see where you are going with this and it does give bresh some cred but not as much as you seem to believe IMO.
All I'm saying is compare what he's doing during the lynch to, say, LoneMeow, and one looks particularly more townie than the other. I can see where Breshke was coming from even if I didn't agree with him.
And that slam-lite stuff is just...lol if that's why y'all were townreading him I have no words. Not just meta on a new player, but it wasn't even his meta.
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On January 24 2015 17:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.) This part is untrue as explained in above post. I can see where you are going with this and it does give bresh some cred but not as much as you seem to believe IMO. All I'm saying is compare what he's doing during the lynch to, say, LoneMeow, and one looks particularly more townie than the other. I can see where Breshke was coming from even if I didn't agree with him. And that slam-lite stuff is just...lol if that's why y'all were townreading him I have no words. Not just meta on a new player, but it wasn't even his meta.
Say you are unfamiliar with something. Well a strategy you can use to understand that something easier is to draw parallels to something as an aide to help you understand that new thing easier and more effectively.
The slam comparison was great IMO.
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On January 24 2015 17:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 17:49 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 17:42 DarthPunk wrote:On January 24 2015 17:25 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd Sure. That's what it looks like if you're not paying attention to the context. (And JJB was a viable lynch before the claim, not to mention scumread initially by both you and geript, so it's not a wild Day 1 read. Just putting that out there.) This part is untrue as explained in above post. I can see where you are going with this and it does give bresh some cred but not as much as you seem to believe IMO. All I'm saying is compare what he's doing during the lynch to, say, LoneMeow, and one looks particularly more townie than the other. I can see where Breshke was coming from even if I didn't agree with him. And that slam-lite stuff is just...lol if that's why y'all were townreading him I have no words. Not just meta on a new player, but it wasn't even his meta. Say you are unfamiliar with something. Well a strategy you can use to understand that something easier is to draw parallels to something as an aide to help you understand that new thing easier and more effectively. The slam comparison was great IMO.
Eh, I personally don't care that much why you guys townread him. He does need help on the appearing townie thing. This really isn't about that.
Anyway, I explained my townread on Breshke. His Day 2 filter speaks for itself, imo, but his EoD didn't appear as bad to me on closer inspection as it does at first glance.
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On January 24 2015 03:32 geript wrote:
LM, Breshke's posted a decent amount since your last post. Any further reasons you think he's scum?
Not particularly, no. I liked the way he questioned DarthPunk's defense of me, but I sort of disliked the way he got stuck in that counterclaim discussion. Also we seem to share the same paranoid fear of DarthPunk being scum...
So if anything, I'm less sure about him now than I was before.
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On January 24 2015 05:18 Damdred wrote:
Geripts response is interesting. If I'm lynched take note that he never refuted anything I said about his lack of connectivity with the game. Nor does he specifically draw instances of unbellievale read changes.
my read on RS has been static, dp has been mainly unchanged besides thinking maybe he could be on a scum team but ita doubtful. Breshke has put in effort I townread shining before I misread a post then put him back as town. The main one I think would be GB who I've played with 20 times probably.
Overall this is a classic over reaction to try to get people on me.
I bring you to geripts weird read on trfel, him trying to get claims discredited during d3 and his total disconnect from the game and lack of follow up unless provoked.
while I'm playing a bad game I know scum and he is the last after lm
How do you propose one could refute a claim like "you are disconnected from the game"? It's quite a subjective statement, so I don't quite see how it could be refuted with facts, and saying "no I am not" is not exactly useful for anyone. In fact, using such subjective claims is one of the reasons I have you in the pile of possible scum.
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On January 24 2015 07:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote:
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through. Where you headed with this? Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though.
This is just ridiculous. Night kills are pure WIFOM, for what it's worth you could be behind the GlowingBear kill and using it to push mislynches with this garbage. I really think you should know better.
Back to the pile of suspicious people you go.
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On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of? Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes  That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3. Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans.
Please explain which of your town leans mislynching me would clear and why?
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On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.
I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.
I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.
I'm also really kind of worried about DarthPunk. I know I am town and he's distancing himself from the lynch, it just smells scummy especially when the reasons are so weak. But every time I go check on him I can't pin down anything concrete that would give me a real scum read other than this.
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Lonemeow.
Who do you want to lynch? Give me three reasons why with evidence to support your assertions.
Who is your largest town read that isn't confirmed town? Give me three reasons why with evidence to support your assertions.
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On January 24 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Damdred or you. I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him. Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone. Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him. But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.
You promised to look into why you have a town lean on DarthPunk here, but you never delivered despite posting several times after this. Please get to it when you're around.
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lonemeow answer my questions.
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On January 24 2015 19:42 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.
I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.
I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team. I'm also really kind of worried about DarthPunk. I know I am town and he's distancing himself from the lynch, it just smells scummy especially when the reasons are so weak. But every time I go check on him I can't pin down anything concrete that would give me a real scum read other than this.
@ everyone.
I can't think of any reason to post this as scum and faking this reasoning is actually really improbable IMO.
This seems like townie paranoia in a good way.
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LM if you go afk right now without answering my questions or interacting ITT I will lynch you MOFO.
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EPT
