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On January 24 2015 13:41 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 12:07 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 11:25 Damdred wrote:
Shining how was I echoing thread sentiment when I brought up original points at the time against him? You had some original points against him at the time of you casing him, yes, but I guess I expressed that thought wrong. What I meant was you planted the LM case and let it sit N2 and then came out the gate pushing it after Bresh appeared with his LM case. Also, I had already questioned LMs activity at this point, too. The support for the LM lynch picked up overnight you could've seen that as an opportunity to push the mislynch. Again, this is all on LM flipping Town, which I don't see happening. Tin foil hats. I'm actually more suspicious of Geript pushing a counterlynch on you instead. Repeating myself here but unless he really is convinced LM isn't scum, I don't see the sense in replacing him with you as the lynch. Unless this is trying to save a scum mate late in the game? Too much tinfoil cuz LM hasn't flipped yet but still worth mentioning for once he does flip scum. Then if you think Damdred is more likely to be scum then geript, why did you say you are suspicious of Townier Geript pushing Scummier Damdred? That makes zero fucking sense to me.
Hmmmm. That's a really good point.
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I'd also like an answer to that whenever you get back into the thread, Shining.
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Day 3: Current Vote Count
LoneMeow (5): geript, rsoultin, Damdred, jarjarbinks, Breshke, The Shining
Damdred (1): geript
The Shining (0): DarthPunk
rsoultin (0): DarthPunk
Not Voting (2): LoneMeow, DarthPunk
Currently, LoneMeow is set to be lynched. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.
Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you.
When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post.
DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too.
I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow.
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I have no issues with people's thoughts. I have issues with people's dumb thoughts. So people people call me scum for absolutely awful reasons when any idiot should be able to read me as town, yah I'm going to just all over that shit. Like DP has said, the problem this game isn't going to be finding scum. It's finding the difference between scummy bad and dummy bad. Like thinking me and Damdred are bussing each other here is pretty insane; not like towny insane either. Then you asked me if we were bussing each other. What sort of response do you expect to that question?
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A direct one, not deflective sarcasm. And I agree it's highly unlikely but not insane. My first ever TL mafia game, my strongest townread was scum. I'm in a nothing is impossible state of mind. I mentioned that the only red flag I've seen on an otherwise Town read on you was pushing to save who I think is scum in LM. I still think you can be town but I want to make sure I'm not making that decision blindly.
I have nothing else to think of you except for the "If I'm wrong on everything, what's another possibility here?" theory and I came up with that. Maybe this is a mistake on my part but I was taught to always say what's on your mind, be transparent in your thoughts.
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On January 24 2015 15:24 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you. When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post. DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too. I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow.
Thank you. That clears it up for me, anyway.
Eh, I'm ignoring the attitudes as much as I can this game. They can't all be scum. If you want to bounce ideas with me I'm happy to listen. I know people keep asking me where I stand with the ifs and buts, but I think I've gotten all I can out of a Day 1 vote analysis and there's not much to gain from Day 2, so...
If you like I can explain my read on Breshke? Right now I'm trying to find scum by finding town.
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On January 24 2015 16:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 15:24 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you. When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post. DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too. I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow. Thank you. That clears it up for me, anyway. Eh, I'm ignoring the attitudes as much as I can this game. They can't all be scum. If you want to bounce ideas with me I'm happy to listen. I know people keep asking me where I stand with the ifs and buts, but I think I've gotten all I can out of a Day 1 vote analysis and there's not much to gain from Day 2, so... If you like I can explain my read on Breshke? Right now I'm trying to find scum by finding town.
Yes please.
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On January 24 2015 16:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 15:24 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you. When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post. DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too. I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow. Thank you. That clears it up for me, anyway. Eh, I'm ignoring the attitudes as much as I can this game. They can't all be scum. If you want to bounce ideas with me I'm happy to listen. I know people keep asking me where I stand with the ifs and buts, but I think I've gotten all I can out of a Day 1 vote analysis and there's not much to gain from Day 2, so... If you like I can explain my read on Breshke? Right now I'm trying to find scum by finding town.
EBWOP:
Actually, if you get a spare moment, please read his filter, particularly leading up to the Day 1 vote. Then please give me your thoughts. He caught my attention because he was parked on JJB when everyone else switched.
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On January 24 2015 15:44 The Shining wrote:
A direct one, not deflective sarcasm. And I agree it's highly unlikely but not insane. My first ever TL mafia game, my strongest townread was scum. I'm in a nothing is impossible state of mind. I mentioned that the only red flag I've seen on an otherwise Town read on you was pushing to save who I think is scum in LM. I still think you can be town but I want to make sure I'm not making that decision blindly.
I have nothing else to think of you except for the "If I'm wrong on everything, what's another possibility here?" theory and I came up with that. Maybe this is a mistake on my part but I was taught to always say what's on your mind, be transparent in your thoughts.
If you think it is highly unlikely then what purpose does it serve to bring it up at all?
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On January 24 2015 15:24 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you. When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post. DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too. I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow.
MEH.
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@DP
In fact, I'd like your thoughts on it, too. I specifically approached players' filters with an eye on their voting and how their reads developed leading up to the votes. It was a little more difficult with all the wagon switches, but it's why I have some people as town that some of you don't. I want to see if y'all see/get the same things from those filters.
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On January 24 2015 15:44 The Shining wrote:
A direct one, not deflective sarcasm. And I agree it's highly unlikely but not insane. My first ever TL mafia game, my strongest townread was scum. I'm in a nothing is impossible state of mind. I mentioned that the only red flag I've seen on an otherwise Town read on you was pushing to save who I think is scum in LM. I still think you can be town but I want to make sure I'm not making that decision blindly.
I have nothing else to think of you except for the "If I'm wrong on everything, what's another possibility here?" theory and I came up with that. Maybe this is a mistake on my part but I was taught to always say what's on your mind, be transparent in your thoughts.
So you wanted a direct answer to a question which people will only respond no to regardless of their alignment. Do you understand how silly that is? It's like:
A: Are you mafia?
B: Why of course I'm mafia. I can't believe you thought to ask me such a deep question.
or:
A: Are you town?
B: You sneaky, sneaky towny you. How did you know that I wouldn't be able to lie about being mafia?
If you want a direct answer, ask a question that doesn't have only one correct answer.
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I just looked and Breshke's day one filter and it looks really bad in hindsight.
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On January 24 2015 16:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I just looked and Breshke's day one filter and it looks really bad in hindsight.
It wasn't amazing, no. What do you think of his play at EoD?
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On January 24 2015 16:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 16:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I just looked and Breshke's day one filter and it looks really bad in hindsight.
It wasn't amazing, no. What do you think of his play at EoD?
End of which day?
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On January 24 2015 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 16:46 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 16:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I just looked and Breshke's day one filter and it looks really bad in hindsight.
It wasn't amazing, no. What do you think of his play at EoD? End of which day?
Day 1.
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I mean what do you want me to say?
It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd
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Ok, DP I'll bite any other explanations. I'm half around watching the LPL.
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I will say he has far fewer posts than it felt like he had.
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