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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 15:30 GMT
#961
On January 19 2015 15:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 06:39 DarthPunk wrote:
@ geript.

I don't like this post

On January 17 2015 21:16 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 17 2015 19:04 jarjarbinks wrote:
Those were the major reads I got from what I have read up to when I started posting. I'm tired so I will not elaborate on the other people who have posted besides basic thoughts.

Gereipt: Your analysis seems fair. I feel like you would do this no matter what game you play. I haven't played this game to know if you left something out (if your mafia). So I can't give you a solid town or mafia read for now.

Lonemeow: Only defended Trfel and questioned Rsoultin's questioning. Probably due to lack of playing with Rsoultin. This is a possible lurker in my eyes. I guess we shall find out tomorrow.

CoolITLname- definite lurker! Or you know, could be sleeping or something...lol WE SHALL SEE

Waffle- Tried to ask LS a question to establish credibility. Let's see what he does.

DP- I liked gereipts analysis on DP. Very jumpy on Rsoultin for questioning Trfel as well as "missed" Trfel "making waves". Possible she could have just jumped on Rsoultin for the same reasons Rsoultin jumped on Trfel thought.


So your major reads are a summary of what people have done so far? No one is scum or town? Then why call them reads?


Because it isn;t what I thought when I saw JJB's list when I read it I was like this dude is just paraphrasing geript.

and his follow up is wishy-washy

On January 17 2015 22:18 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 17 2015 22:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 17 2015 21:16 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 17 2015 19:04 jarjarbinks wrote:
Those were the major reads I got from what I have read up to when I started posting. I'm tired so I will not elaborate on the other people who have posted besides basic thoughts.

Gereipt: Your analysis seems fair. I feel like you would do this no matter what game you play. I haven't played this game to know if you left something out (if your mafia). So I can't give you a solid town or mafia read for now.

Lonemeow: Only defended Trfel and questioned Rsoultin's questioning. Probably due to lack of playing with Rsoultin. This is a possible lurker in my eyes. I guess we shall find out tomorrow.

CoolITLname- definite lurker! Or you know, could be sleeping or something...lol WE SHALL SEE

Waffle- Tried to ask LS a question to establish credibility. Let's see what he does.

DP- I liked gereipts analysis on DP. Very jumpy on Rsoultin for questioning Trfel as well as "missed" Trfel "making waves". Possible she could have just jumped on Rsoultin for the same reasons Rsoultin jumped on Trfel thought.


So your major reads are a summary of what people have done so far? No one is scum or town? Then why call them reads?


And what do you make of it?


It's on the scummier side of things, as scum he'd want to look like he's giving reads even when he really isn't. However, knowing his play in the previous game it's not as conclusive as it could be.


I like thses posts though

On January 19 2015 00:44 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 18 2015 12:36 Breshke wrote:
TOWN

Trfel : Trying to change his play seems towny to me. I think as scum he would be more wary of doing this because as we have seen people would notice the change and ping him out for it.

LS : His meta case on me is bad in my opinion but it is the conclusion i thought he would come and to me shows he is trying to work out alignments and stuff not just trying to look town.

Damdred : I liked his case on Cool and the fact that he made people discuss it. Even though we know it was wrong I found myself agreeing with it and Cool would have been my top scum if he was still alive.


On January 18 2015 15:07 Breshke wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:50 DarthPunk wrote:
K I just read all of Lightnings filter twice and he is not really scum hunting at all. Most of his contributions are talking about how many games people have played in/ played with him in and he talks A LOT about meta.

Can those people town reading Lightning please give me some in depth reasoning for those town reads. Cause I can't see it.


I read him town for some weak meta case on my being more lurky as mafia. I expected someone to try and come at me because of it and thought it was towny. That's actually a fairly shit tier read though because it isn't actually alignment indicative. Would need to look more into it but i wouldn't call him town anymore.


This progression on LightningStrike is is just pure bullshit. "Weak meta case" when he's in your strong town category, really? And if you actually had read his previous town games you would have instantly seen that he's playing exactly like he has done as town so far.

I'm fairly sure you didn't actually bother to get any kind of meta on him, just used that as excuse for a town read. Scum like to do that.

##Vote: Breshke

GlowingBear, I am sorry for doubting you


On January 19 2015 03:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
.,.so you have no thoughts on anything else just spamming about older stuff?


Other thoughts, well.

LightningStrike looks town by meta.

DarthPunk looks town for the way his LightningStrike read evolved when presented with evidence from other games.

Trfel I'm really torn on, the case by rsoultin has merit but Trfel puts quite a lot of effort into some of his posts which is a town trait.

rsoultin is perhaps town for his defence of LightningStrike, since if I trust my read on LightningStrike he'd just be narrowing his potential mislynch pool if he did that as scum. But that's associative between unflipped players so meh.


Seems like good reads for the mos tpart and displays a kind of fearless tone I would expect from town.

These posts:
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On January 19 2015 03:16 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
.,.so you have no thoughts on anything else just spamming about older stuff?


Other thoughts, well.

LightningStrike looks town by meta.

DarthPunk looks town for the way his LightningStrike read evolved when presented with evidence from other games.

Trfel I'm really torn on, the case by rsoultin has merit but Trfel puts quite a lot of effort into some of his posts which is a town trait.

rsoultin is perhaps town for his defence of LightningStrike, since if I trust my read on LightningStrike he'd just be narrowing his potential mislynch pool if he did that as scum. But that's associative between unflipped players so meh.


Okay, LM, please clarify your vote on Breshke. The way I read it, you were saying Breshke had a weak meta case on LS, when the opposite was true. (Sorry LS, <3 you, but ^^


Ah, I must've misunderstood Breshke's post. English isn't my native language. Let me rethink.


On January 19 2015 03:18 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:16 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote:
.,.so you have no thoughts on anything else just spamming about older stuff?


Other thoughts, well.

LightningStrike looks town by meta.

DarthPunk looks town for the way his LightningStrike read evolved when presented with evidence from other games.

Trfel I'm really torn on, the case by rsoultin has merit but Trfel puts quite a lot of effort into some of his posts which is a town trait.

rsoultin is perhaps town for his defence of LightningStrike, since if I trust my read on LightningStrike he'd just be narrowing his potential mislynch pool if he did that as scum. But that's associative between unflipped players so meh.


Okay, LM, please clarify your vote on Breshke. The way I read it, you were saying Breshke had a weak meta case on LS, when the opposite was true. (Sorry LS, <3 you, but ^^


Ah, I must've misunderstood Breshke's post. English isn't my native language. Let me rethink.


Right, it's far less strongly implicating him as scum now that I understood correctly, although I still don't like the way he went from "LightningStrike town" to "wouldn't call him town anymore" without any real explanation on what caused the shift.

For now,
##Unvote

Show he is willing to re-evaluate based on new or different information


I actually wouldn't want to lynch him today.



This is straight up bad, DP. You're trying to tell me you think that it's town for LM to completely misread Breshke, vote him on the misread, then correct himself when someone points it out? How is that a good read? He was voting Breshke for a meta case Breshke never made.

What's so amazing about his first set of reads? LS and you town for obvious reasons everyone is already saying you're town for?

If you think this makes LM town I have to wonder what you're smoking.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 15:38 GMT
#962
On January 19 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm somewhat breaking my promise about not doing a ton of quotes in a post but i'm going to hide them behind spoilers to make readability better.

Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM.

These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either.

I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me.

The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote?

At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off.

Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment.

Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to.

pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote:
Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not.

I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch.

##Vote: jarjarbinks


On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheWarWaffle



Give me a bit to see how these actually play out in context. I know I was there, but it was so chaotic at EoD it's kind of blurry in my memory right now. At first glance it looks like you may have picked up on something.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 16:21 GMT
#963
Did you find anything in context, and I think your reasons are weak dp.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 16:34 GMT
#964
On January 20 2015 01:21 Damdred wrote:
Did you find anything in context, and I think your reasons are weak dp.


Eh, preliminary impression? His votes are going with the majority feel in the thread at the time for weak reasons. (The JarJar vote was weird when he said he agreed with not voting him earlier, just as you pointed out.) Everyone else is arguing and it looks more like he's just trying to find somewhere to park where his vote doesn't stand out too much.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 16:38 GMT
#965
EBWOP:

LM got lost in the shuffle with everyone else exploding. Which imo would be ideal for scum, but doesn't necessarily make him scum. His voting at EoD certainly doesn't make me any more inclined to townread him though. I think he's a good lynch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 16:49 GMT
#966
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 17:00 GMT
#967
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


Eh, tbh I'm trying not to make pre-flip associations this game if I can avoid it. Some of DPs posting has come across as pretty townie to me, but I'm not as sold on him as some of the rest of y'all are.

His early filter was all seemingly in defense of trfel, so if we lynch trfel and he flips scum, DP needs to be looked at hard. That he also has weak reasons to townread LM isn't making me feel better about him.

The other player I think bears close watching is Breshke, but I'm not really feeling him as a better lynch than either trfel or LM atm.

If JarJar turns out to be scum (in which case I will stop giving tone reads on him or defending his bad play lol in future games) I think geript is a good place to look. I find this scenario least likely, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 19 2015 17:25 GMT
#968
Most of these are parrots b/c people already said most of this. I figured you'd want my opinion on it though.

Geripts play makes no sense from a mafia perspective IMO. Poor Waffle, I honestly think he's played better than me both D1's and gotten lynched both times.

I feel that GB and damdred are town based on EOD play. What a move by GB. Didn't understand it at first, but I think I get it now.

LM did have two votes before my train started really picking up. It was 2-3 at one time. I think there was an hour left but it still was relatively close to EOD.

I think Breshke made my train possible for GB to pull off his risky move.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shining is town despite the EOD vote. His reads might have been wrong, but the way he played it made me think he could be town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 17:29 GMT
#969
On January 20 2015 02:25 jarjarbinks wrote:
Most of these are parrots b/c people already said most of this. I figured you'd want my opinion on it though.

Geripts play makes no sense from a mafia perspective IMO. Poor Waffle, I honestly think he's played better than me both D1's and gotten lynched both times.

I feel that GB and damdred are town based on EOD play. What a move by GB. Didn't understand it at first, but I think I get it now.

LM did have two votes before my train started really picking up. It was 2-3 at one time. I think there was an hour left but it still was relatively close to EOD.

I think Breshke made my train possible for GB to pull off his risky move.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shining is town despite the EOD vote. His reads might have been wrong, but the way he played it made me think he could be town.


What does this mean? What did you get from it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 17:32 GMT
#970
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 17:39 GMT
#971
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 17:45 GMT
#972
On January 20 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?


Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 19 2015 17:49 GMT
#973
On January 20 2015 02:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?


Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP?


No clue DP is a better player than that though
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 18:14 GMT
#974
On January 20 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:45 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?


Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP?


No clue DP is a better player than that though


I don't know him. Eh, could just be bad play, but with a tfel/lm scum team he's a very likely third in my eyes. Just have to see how it plays out.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 19 2015 18:36 GMT
#975
On January 20 2015 03:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:45 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?


Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP?


No clue DP is a better player than that though


I don't know him. Eh, could just be bad play, but with a tfel/lm scum team he's a very likely third in my eyes. Just have to see how it plays out.


This is a very likely scum team.
I'm adorable.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 19 2015 21:48 GMT
#976
Don't lynch:

Geript, GB, dam dried, in counterclaimed blues.

Everyone else is on the table.

Also fuck phone posting and auto correct.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 19 2015 21:58 GMT
#977
On January 20 2015 06:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't lynch:

Geript, GB, dam dried, in counterclaimed blues.

Everyone else is on the table.

Also fuck phone posting and auto correct.


-snorts- seriously? you can't narrow it down more than the obvious ones? after going through everyone's filters? this is pretty disappointing.

Okay, well...

Trfel, LM for the reasons I described earlier...then look into DP/Breshke

unless it turns out JJB false-claimed, in which case:

Trfel, JJB...then look into Geript/LM/Breshke

At least, that's what I would do. Everyone else I'm more or less townreading, and geript should be townread unless one of those wagons were scum. Then he's on the table again.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 22:02:17
January 19 2015 22:01 GMT
#978
[image loading]


Day 2





GlowingBear the VT has been shot!




This day ends in 48 hours at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Whoever has the most votes on them at that time gets lynched.

Countdown:
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 19 2015 22:02 GMT
#979
Cop here guys I checked Tfrel because his opening was off and I wasn't surprised he's Mafia! Let's get him guys!
##Vote: Tfrel
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 19 2015 22:05 GMT
#980
Wtf. How wasn't I shot. Been sick. Still not feeling great.
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