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On January 26 2015 06:08 Damdred wrote:
I thought you Busd unreliable in that game.
Anyway I wasn't even active just trying to remember it.
Kinda convenient for you to misremember it in a way that makes it look like I buss as scum, but whatever. You can do that as town, too. I can't say that I never would, but it's not exactly the most brilliant move to hard-buss a scum mate for legitimate reasons that others in the game should also recognize, if they're familiar with trfel.
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Yeah I couldn't begin to tell you guys or show you how I play scum here, so there's no way for me to defend myself based on scum play vs. town play.
I can tell you guys why I did things, or thought things, and you can either except those reasons or reject them, but all I have is my filter. I've led multiple mislynches as town. I usually try to consolidate my vote at EoD. It's normal for me to be less aggressive when I'm less sure, but equally wrong as town. Y'all can read my town games if you want to try the meta thing.
So if you have questions, please ask.
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Okay, well...
Damdred...I still really think his play right before the flip looked like TMI. He's being very obstinate about only seeing the game one way based on what I perceive to be flimsy reasons.
After him, DP or Shining. I don't know if DP is right about the vote and stuff...will have to really look at it and what was possible to see if that argument holds. Shining I haven't filter-dived again yet. It's more who I think is likely with Damdred if DP doesn't make sense.
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On January 26 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 06:37 Breshke wrote:
I'm still catching up but i want to ask.
Geript do you think it is reasonable that damdred flipped his read on you to town for the reason he gave? Honestly, I'm really torn on Damdred entirely. Like I think I just want to call him town and say fuck it, if he's mafia I'm just going to lynch him in every game he's in.
geript, I posted about what looked like TMI to me. Am I high? Cause it makes sense to me, and I didn't find his play nearly as "townie" EoD Day 2 as others apparently did.
He switched his read on Bresh so fast I almost got whiplash.
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On January 26 2015 07:39 Damdred wrote:
Geript, you won't ever have to lynch me. I'm actually trying to play now, jarjar was confirmed town and wasn't going along with the program.
We shouldn't no lynch today.
Wow. Now that's a townie thing to say, isn't it? Yay the guy who would interfere with your agenda is out of the way? What the hell does that comment even mean, Damdred?
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On January 26 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Jarjar wasn't afking and doing nothing like he had been and pushed against a damdred mafia: ).
Nice interpretation, Damdred, not to mention WIFOM since he was the only confirmed town in the game. Any more stories you'd like to tell? He didn't agree with the TMI thing, but neither does anyone else it seems -_-
Maybe I'm out to lunch on that, but I don't think I am.
Regardless, keeping geript around favors you and especially DP, if we're going to get into WIFOM. The way this goes pretty much depends on him the way things are shaking out.
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On January 26 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Haha everyone else can mention nk but the pair of people I have as mafia jump on me. Pretty funny.
##vote Rasputin
You really think I'm scum? If you're town, this is the most stupid I have ever seen you play in MYLO. What do you even have against me, Damdred? No, seriously. What is your case? I've yet to see one.
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On January 26 2015 09:43 The Shining wrote:Geript, quoting is a pain in the ass on a tablet. I will only do it here if absolutely necessary, like in this post. Also, I was in that game when both RSo and Damdred were scum(I was a blue role) and I think JJB linked an old scum game of mine in the Newbie game. This isn't my first time saying this but I really think those are horrible examples of play. This is an entirely different atmosphere. I don't think I've tried a fraction as hard there as I have here, sadly. Breshke, OK well your paranoid world has come to life. LM was town. And now that your paranoid world has come to fruition, you drop DP. You ask him to agree on a no lynch after posting this: Show nested quote +On January 25 2015 17:33 Breshke wrote:
RSo did yout ake another look at my filter do you still think im town?
Also how sure are you on your the shining read are you sure you arnt jsut giving him a pass for being a newbie?
All that shit I said about DP seemingly defending LM from nothing i still think is true but he might just have seen something i didn't. Also he seemed genuinely happy when people started changing their votes to me so i have me hesitations. Once your mislynch went through, instead of following up your suspicion, you give soft BS reasoning for letting DP go. "Seemed genuinely happy"? He's a vet, I'm sure he can pretend to be happy in a text post. "Saw something you didn't"? Then go filter dive and look for what he saw, or ask him, or bring it up. You dropped this way too fast considering you bothered to mention it in a prior post. Looks to me like you're afraid of DP defending himself and proving you're scum and are trying to buy yourself another NK with the no lynch instead. Or worse, you're back tracking off of a scum partner that you never intended to push, anyway.
Shining. Common sense. We mislynch today the game is over. There is no need for scum to try to get another NK.
Also, read. Breshke has not dropped DP as suspicious.
Third, if you let Damdred mislynch me I will be very annoyed with you. Very. Annoyed. (I know that's not scary, but since I think he's scum, I can't blame him for trying to win. Just dumb town for letting him.) Or have I been wrong about you all game and it really is you and Damdred?
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F it, sorry Bresh. I don't see enough support for a no-lynch and I'm not going to let mafia win by being their fall guy. Not without a fight.
##vote: Damdred
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On January 26 2015 10:01 Damdred wrote:
Here's the thing rs, I'll make a huge case when I get home with evidence and the like but I'll give you arsenal peek.1) Gameplay has been super uneven compared between early and later in the game.
2) made a case on trf really didn't push it around eod when everything was going down the drain.
3) Came out hard early was super sure of read replaced by momentary reads.
4) hasn't Scum hunted but only reacted to the thread.
- And your gameplay hasn't been uneven? You barely play. Pot calling kettle.
- I dropped it because I thought I might be tunneled and no one gave a shit what I thought.
- I was super sure on Trfel. LS. JJB. Everyone else I don't know as well. I was sure enough on LM to stand my ground, wrong or right, when the safe play would have been to have folded.
- Of course I've scumhunted.
BS. And more BS.
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On January 26 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
If you are town rs why aren't you worried about bresh coming so hard alongside you?
Let me put this to you very simply, Damdred, so that you can understand.
I am town.
I do not think you are town. In the event that you are town, I am still more sure that I am town than you are.
Clear enough for you?
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On January 26 2015 10:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
If you are town rs why aren't you worried about bresh coming so hard alongside you? Let me put this to you very simply, Damdred, so that you can understand. I am town. I do not think you are town. In the event that you are town, I am still more sure that I am town than you are. Clear enough for you?
EBWOP:
Okay. I will answer that question without sniping this time.
I don't know 100% that breshke is town. Or shining is. Or even geript is. I know that how you behaved at EoD felt very wrong to me with the sudden switch to breshke, seemingly unprompted. The whole thing looks very orchestrated. It does look like you absolutely already knew what was going to happen with LM and left me there to take the fall...and I don't believe for a second that a town Damdred has absolutely no doubt with six people still left in the game as to who the scum are.
If you are trying to push a breshke lynch, and I'm not seeing damning things in breshke's filter, the logical conclusion is that scummy-acting Damdred is trying to mislynch breshke. No, I don't like people calling me 100% town. Makes my skin itch. But you're not this dumb. You are not this dumb.
And if you are this dumb, well, I guess I have to severely lower my expectations of you in the future.
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On January 26 2015 10:22 Damdred wrote:
You've asked all these questions. What is my Scum motivation to get off of lm at the end like that to lynch someone else when I already had a town lynch sewn up?
The town cred, obviously. I'd already made it abundantly clear that I thought LM was scum and wasn't moving.
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On January 26 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
off a town lynch onto another town? Why havnt you looked at it AT ALL from me being town.
I agree geript is town but I have most of the game i don't see what has made you flip your read.
Im boring because im about to leave. It is absurd that we arnt no lynching
They want to push the mislynch through. It's pretty obvious.
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On January 26 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote:
Town cred for what? What's the point of towncred in mylo when half the game is scumming me at least.
Town cred for not being on a town mislynch. Are you really this obtuse? Why would I give a damn which "town" wagon was being mislynched as scum.
I could have nailed your ass to the floor Day 2 if I was scum and you were town and no one would have cared. I could have nailed Shining when DP tried to push that. Or Breshke. As scum it wouldn't matter to me which scummy-looking townie got the shaft.
You are not this bad, Damdred.
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On January 26 2015 10:34 The Shining wrote:
Bresh, I agree, I saw the same in looking at LM's EoD actions. I was just curious if one part of your paranoid world is real, why not question the possibilities of other parts? Mainly because I couldn't see what DP saw in LM, either.
My reads haven't changed all that much. I'm almost as sure about you as I was about LM, which is why I'm listening to these other scum team theories. I was wrong once this game and could be wrong again, although I don't think I am. I was always going to suspect Damdred if LM flipped Town, I even mentioned that in my filter, but I don't see it possible for the two of you to be teammates. So either I'm wrong on you or wrong on him.
The only other slight question mark I have is DP, because of the LM townread and you letting him go so easily. I actually haven't looked into interactions between you two yet but now I want to. I'll have to come back for that.
RSo, there are 6 of us left. What I was getting at is if Breshke somehow does convince us all to no lynch, we still have 6. After Night 4, it'd be 5 with 2 scum. His reasoning looks good on the outside(get rid of a question mark) but it also allows another NK to get rid of our strongest Townie who could figure it all out.
Also, why so snappy with me? I did read. Anything DP-related after that is "idk still paranoid as shit about DP." And that is it. this is a very important lynch for Town. I'm paranoid of basically all of you after my last Mylo experience. I just felt like Bresh set himself up to pursue that train of thought, not chalk it up to paranoia. If anything, Mylo is the best day for theories like that.
At the risk of sounding conceited, Damdred and I would've played a much better game without towning each other and association if we both rolled scum together. He also was ready to lynch me as scum at one point over a misunderstood post alone. I doubt scum would do that to another scum without making sure it wasn't a misunderstandng beforehand. That's not to say I don't think he's scum because I've been on the fence about him basically all game. You are one of my strongest townreads but I'd like to see his case on you first, in case there really is something there I'm not seeing.
Sorry. I'm irritated. I got screamed at by DP last night...again...and Damdred's frustrating me a ton. Did you read what I posted about TMI? Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that makes sense, but no one has told me how it hasn't, except JJB thought I was reading too much into it.
Eh, I can see that, Shining, about the NK. I just think if they were concerned about getting rid of the player that could figure it all out, they would have gotten rid of him instead of JJB. Just keep blocking JJB. Yet they didn't. Which suggests to me that scum isn't concerned with being found out right now. geript, please think about that when you're deciding what to do ><
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On January 26 2015 11:45 Damdred wrote:I think RS is scum but i'm going to unvote for now just in case I change my mind and he gets hammered with people afk on him me. ##unvote Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote:
Town cred for what? What's the point of towncred in mylo when half the game is scumming me at least. Town cred for not being on a town mislynch. Are you really this obtuse? Why would I give a damn which "town" wagon was being mislynched as scum. I could have nailed your ass to the floor Day 2 if I was scum and you were town and no one would have cared. I could have nailed Shining when DP tried to push that. Or Breshke. As scum it wouldn't matter to me which scummy-looking townie got the shaft.You are not this bad, Damdred. You couldn't of nailed me d3 especially since the votes would of been tied and I wouldn't of voted to lynch myself. And you didn't have the votes to take out shining I think. So... you think Breshke looks scummy though even though you town read him? [/b][/b]
If I'd voted you first, yes, the tie would go to lynching you, and if you and I both voted shining, yes he would be lynched. Pointless conversation.
No, I don't think Breshke looks scummy. You're taking my comments out of context. I said if i'm scum any scummy-looking townie, which is objectively anyone up for lynch who isn't scum, would do to secure the mislynch.
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On January 26 2015 12:12 The Shining wrote:
Also, RSo has Breshke as a town read but called Damdred, Breshke, myself scummy looking townies. If we're scummy looking, how do you know we're town? I know I'm picking at your wording but its kind of odd that you'd call us scummy looking, when you've been towning or nulling me and Bresh.
I actually like that question, Damdred. Breshke 100% town read RSo and gets at Damdred for being sure, without any doubts, of Geript and DP being town. Hypocrisy.
Damn, I really have to rethink my read on RSo now. This buddy buddy system is a lot weirder from you 2 than it is from Geript and DP, vets with a few games together. Its unsettling.
Good lord this is a hypothetical situation -_-
I said if I were scum, any scummy-looking townie would do. If I were scum and assuming one of you three were also scum, at least two would be scummy-looking townies.
Please stop nitpicking what I'm saying
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On January 26 2015 12:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 11:45 Damdred wrote:I think RS is scum but i'm going to unvote for now just in case I change my mind and he gets hammered with people afk on him me. ##unvote On January 26 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 26 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote:
Town cred for what? What's the point of towncred in mylo when half the game is scumming me at least. Town cred for not being on a town mislynch. Are you really this obtuse? Why would I give a damn which "town" wagon was being mislynched as scum. I could have nailed your ass to the floor Day 2 if I was scum and you were town and no one would have cared. I could have nailed Shining when DP tried to push that. Or Breshke. As scum it wouldn't matter to me which scummy-looking townie got the shaft.You are not this bad, Damdred. You couldn't of nailed me d3 especially since the votes would of been tied and I wouldn't of voted to lynch myself. And you didn't have the votes to take out shining I think. So... you think Breshke looks scummy though even though you town read him? If I'd voted you first, yes, the tie would go to lynching you, and if you and I both voted shining, yes he would be lynched. Pointless conversation. No, I don't think Breshke looks scummy. You're taking my comments out of context. I said if i'm scum any scummy-looking townie, which is objectively anyone up for lynch who isn't scum, would do to secure the mislynch. If damdred flips scum who is scum? [/b][/b]
I don't know right now DP. Is it alright for me to not know?
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