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On January 17 2015 11:50 Trfel wrote:
Ok, I will respond to jarjar's request for a no lynch. No, we will definitely lynch.
No lynch on Day 1 is bad because it usually leaves you in an almost equally uninformed position on Day 2. Eventually you have to make that first lynch. Yes, town is often lynched on Day 1, but you can still lynch scum on Day 1 with effective play (and a bit of luck).
I will keep my vote on geript until I feel that it is better for me to move it. It is really silly to ask me for rules for what I will do with my vote, since it's my own judgement and there is absolutely no reason for me to try and set rules for every possible scenario.
Mhm.
The question was not what your rules are. The question was do you intend to scumhunt at all? Why is it so difficult for you to answer a simple question? Will you or will you not adhere to policy voting over scumread voting? Since you can't possibly be scumreading geript off of no posting (and have admitted to such) I feel that it's a valid question.
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EBWOP:
By admitted to such I meant that you have outright stated that the vote is not dependent on his alignment. Which it shouldn't be, so that makes sense.
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On January 17 2015 12:00 Damdred wrote:
Can't policy voting be scum hunting as well rso
It can. Not sure how it is in this situation, but it can be, certainly.
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On January 17 2015 12:04 Damdred wrote:
Kk so its three.
Tell me where you are at in the game this second Ls.
RS its possible but voting feript out is like an rng lynch it can hit scum but who knows.
This is exactly why I am questioning Trfel this hard. He usually has very good reasons for voting people out, right or wrong...to enter with a straight up policy vote less than a minute after game start to me is out-of-character for him. -shrugs-
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On January 17 2015 12:51 Trfel wrote:
rsoultin, I would like to know what you expected to gain from some of your later questions, particularly, "do you intend to scumhunt this game"? There is only one possible answer to that question. Also, do you have any thoughts on the rest of the thread? I'm surprised that you picked on my opening but not GlowingBear's opening, which is bad for reasons I have previously stated.
That said, rsoultin's questioning does fit with her town meta. For an example of this, see the opening of the most recent Newbie Mafia.
LightningStrike, why do you townread GlowingBear for that opening? Yes, it is true that there is no motivation for scum to claim VT right at the start of the game with no pressure. But there is also no motivation for town to claim VT right at the start of the game with no pressure.
Sure, I have thoughts. One is how wriggly wormy you're being here lately. The scumhunt question obviously was rhetorical; it implied that your policy vote is not scumhunting. Again, you are nitpicking instead of addressing the point of my questions: namely, now that you've gotten discussion started, how serious really are you about that vote?
GB has been questioned without really responding, as has JarJar.
On January 17 2015 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 12:04 Damdred wrote:
Kk so its three.
Tell me where you are at in the game this second Ls.
RS its possible but voting feript out is like an rng lynch it can hit scum but who knows. This is exactly why I am questioning Trfel this hard. He usually has very good reasons for voting people out, right or wrong...to enter with a straight up policy vote less than a minute after game start to me is out-of-character for him. -shrugs- It was pretty obviously a policy thing at the start of the game. What kind of reasons do you expect somebody to have about 1 min in to the game? Like they are always gonna be poor or arbitrary. He was pretty clear trying to get the ball rolling. Townie Points for a Townie Action.
I expect a certain rationality from Trfel based on the games we've played together. He typically does not do poor or arbitrary things. This is not about every player. This is about him. If he did some of the things LS or SL does every single game, it would get my attention, too.
Are you trying to tell me that scum couldn't open with a policy lynch on a player that pre-game claimed he wouldn't post much, and pre-game was asked about why and jokingly called scum? I'm not saying Trfel is scum, but I don't see anything particularly townie about it. I'd call it flat-out low-hanging fruit for scum, personally, going after a geript lynch right now. Which is why I want to know how far Trfel intends to take it. I'd be riding his ass less if he were more direct about answering my questions.
I get that you think he's being townie here, and I get that you think it's too bold a move for scum to make, but I personally don't see the danger in it for scum. Even if geript were lynched later today, who would hold Trfel accountable? I mean, honestly, who?
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On January 17 2015 13:04 Breshke wrote:Soz had irl shit to do Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 10:17 Trfel wrote:
I'm back.
LightningStrike's play does seem rather weird so far. First he says that my early vote is scummy, and then says that it is towny. Regardless of whether my early vote was a good or bad play, LightningStrike's view changed on it after DarthPunk and LoneMeow expressed opinions that it was a slightly townie thing to do. And then, asking for rsoultin makes no sense at all. Why rsoultin? If it's to make a meta read, how about all of the rest of us he has played with before?
GlowingBear's opening seems pretty bad as well. In general I don't like claiming, since I feel that town players should simply play well to show that they are town (just like how I don't put very much focus on setups). Claim aside, why would he even sign up for the game if he doesn't want to play VT, the most common role? VT is the core of the game, the power roles are the fluff (especially in games like this one with only two power roles). Side note, I've been cop/tracker twice out of three previous games, and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable for me. VT is a much more enjoyable role IMO, less pressure and you can more freely speak your mind. It was to make a meta read on her and WarWaffle I only played 1 game with him and he seemed to be posting the same way he did in the last newbie game when he was Vet. Damdred's entrance post is all he got atm so I need to wait for a meta read on him. Although rsoultins only entrance was to vote you she didn't explain her reasoning for why she votign for you now. rsoultin welcome to the game now why calling BS on Tfrel's post? If it's a joke vote I can maybe understand but I don't see anything totally wrong with his vote except for the fact that gerpit had not posted yet so (shrugs) What's wrong with it is that the Trfel, before a single word was spoken...in fact practically the second the game started...decided to vote for someone because they are "intentionally playing bad". Not only has geript not posted at all in this thread, but Trfel himself has been very effective with quite minimal posts, and is usually very slow to vote or scumread people until he is sure. It may well be a pressure vote (the second the game started!) but not only is it more aggressive than I've come to expect from him, but his explanation is inherently false which he should know based on his own play in the last two games.Thus, BS meter. Why would scum put the spotlight on himself from the get go for no reason?Shit like this always looks bad but the underlying point ends up being that they don't give a fuck what they look like which is a townie trait because scum ALWAYS care what they look like due to their inherent feelings of guilt. Do you think Trfel is scum? Cause he is my biggest town read in the game so far. What does BS meter mean exactly? Why does Trefel's early vote fit with the mafia agenda? rsoultin do you disagree with the bolded question? I couldnt see if you have already answered it or not. I think DP is fairly spot on with trefel and i don't understand where you are coming from at all. Even if trefel is playing different it is possible to do that as town as well. So saying someone is playing different isn't a good enough reason to call them scum. Also GB can make that entrance post as a blue ,VT or scum so people looking into that post are going to go nowhere.
I am not calling Trfel scum. I am questioning his intentions, because his first explanation did not jive.
^Next time someone asks me this I am going to flat-out quote this post of myself because I'm getting tired of answering it.
I do not think there is actually any danger in the particular way he drew attention to himself if he is scum.
^Again, the next time someone asks me this I will quote this post.
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On January 17 2015 13:20 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
Again, you are nitpicking instead of addressing the point of my questions: namely, now that you've gotten discussion started, how serious really are you about that vote? Not at all. To be honest, I expect that geript will be just fine with only 10 posts. His analytical skills won't be hampered at all, he only loses most of his ability to question people and it will be difficult for him to push a lynch. Assuming that others do those two things for him, he should be just fine. ##UnvoteNow that I have clarified this, I would really like to hear your thoughts on what other people have said so far.
##Unvote (since apparently we actually do not have a voting thread :/)
I'm okay with DP, Damdred and Lonemeow right now. LS, too...he is actively participating in the thread.
JarJar may be scum; for someone who relies on voting analysis to suggest no vote is even more strange than the average player. I'd like to see his response.
The rest I haven't really been able to get a read on as of yet.
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On January 17 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 13:17 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 13:04 Breshke wrote:Soz had irl shit to do On January 17 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 10:17 Trfel wrote:
I'm back.
LightningStrike's play does seem rather weird so far. First he says that my early vote is scummy, and then says that it is towny. Regardless of whether my early vote was a good or bad play, LightningStrike's view changed on it after DarthPunk and LoneMeow expressed opinions that it was a slightly townie thing to do. And then, asking for rsoultin makes no sense at all. Why rsoultin? If it's to make a meta read, how about all of the rest of us he has played with before?
GlowingBear's opening seems pretty bad as well. In general I don't like claiming, since I feel that town players should simply play well to show that they are town (just like how I don't put very much focus on setups). Claim aside, why would he even sign up for the game if he doesn't want to play VT, the most common role? VT is the core of the game, the power roles are the fluff (especially in games like this one with only two power roles). Side note, I've been cop/tracker twice out of three previous games, and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable for me. VT is a much more enjoyable role IMO, less pressure and you can more freely speak your mind. It was to make a meta read on her and WarWaffle I only played 1 game with him and he seemed to be posting the same way he did in the last newbie game when he was Vet. Damdred's entrance post is all he got atm so I need to wait for a meta read on him. Although rsoultins only entrance was to vote you she didn't explain her reasoning for why she votign for you now. rsoultin welcome to the game now why calling BS on Tfrel's post? If it's a joke vote I can maybe understand but I don't see anything totally wrong with his vote except for the fact that gerpit had not posted yet so (shrugs) What's wrong with it is that the Trfel, before a single word was spoken...in fact practically the second the game started...decided to vote for someone because they are "intentionally playing bad". Not only has geript not posted at all in this thread, but Trfel himself has been very effective with quite minimal posts, and is usually very slow to vote or scumread people until he is sure. It may well be a pressure vote (the second the game started!) but not only is it more aggressive than I've come to expect from him, but his explanation is inherently false which he should know based on his own play in the last two games.Thus, BS meter. Why would scum put the spotlight on himself from the get go for no reason?Shit like this always looks bad but the underlying point ends up being that they don't give a fuck what they look like which is a townie trait because scum ALWAYS care what they look like due to their inherent feelings of guilt. Do you think Trfel is scum? Cause he is my biggest town read in the game so far. What does BS meter mean exactly? Why does Trefel's early vote fit with the mafia agenda? rsoultin do you disagree with the bolded question? I couldnt see if you have already answered it or not. I think DP is fairly spot on with trefel and i don't understand where you are coming from at all. Even if trefel is playing different it is possible to do that as town as well. So saying someone is playing different isn't a good enough reason to call them scum. Also GB can make that entrance post as a blue ,VT or scum so people looking into that post are going to go nowhere. I am not calling Trfel scum. I am questioning his intentions, because his first explanation did not jive. ^Next time someone asks me this I am going to flat-out quote this post of myself because I'm getting tired of answering it. I do not think there is actually any danger in the particular way he drew attention to himself if he is scum. ^Again, the next time someone asks me this I will quote this post. Sorry i probably could have worked that shit out myself. The point is you "questioning his intentions" doesn't feel like you are trying to work out his alignment. It feels like you are just asking questions so you have a presence in the thread.
Mhm. When you're ready to ask me something or accuse me let me know. Thanks. 
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On January 17 2015 13:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 13:20 Trfel wrote:On January 17 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
Again, you are nitpicking instead of addressing the point of my questions: namely, now that you've gotten discussion started, how serious really are you about that vote? Not at all. To be honest, I expect that geript will be just fine with only 10 posts. His analytical skills won't be hampered at all, he only loses most of his ability to question people and it will be difficult for him to push a lynch. Assuming that others do those two things for him, he should be just fine. ##UnvoteNow that I have clarified this, I would really like to hear your thoughts on what other people have said so far. ##Unvote (since apparently we actually do not have a voting thread :/) I'm okay with DP, Damdred and Lonemeow right now. LS, too...he is actively participating in the thread. JarJar may be scum; for someone who relies on voting analysis to suggest no vote is even more strange than the average player. I'd like to see his response. The rest I haven't really been able to get a read on as of yet. Ninja'd I'm more interested in the reasons FOR the reads than the actual reads right now. Would you care to elaborate for me?
They're not strong reads. You haven't played with me before...I tend to be a paranoid sort. With you, Damdred and Lonemeow, I see questioning that I like and a willingness to look at more than one side of an issue. So right now I see no reason to scumread any of you and if I had to lynch someone now, it would not be one of those three.
LS always is a bit of a strange player, but his poking and prodding at people strikes me as town. I generally give him more leeway because he is much easier to scumread as town than most players.
JarJar is my brother. He likes stats, numbers, and doesn't trust in what people say. His first game on this site he made a model based on the votes/reads of the dead townies. So asking us to do something that will not gather any empirical data is reason enough for me to be suspicious of him.
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On January 17 2015 13:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 10:17 Trfel wrote:
I'm back.
LightningStrike's play does seem rather weird so far. First he says that my early vote is scummy, and then says that it is towny. Regardless of whether my early vote was a good or bad play, LightningStrike's view changed on it after DarthPunk and LoneMeow expressed opinions that it was a slightly townie thing to do. And then, asking for rsoultin makes no sense at all. Why rsoultin? If it's to make a meta read, how about all of the rest of us he has played with before?
GlowingBear's opening seems pretty bad as well. In general I don't like claiming, since I feel that town players should simply play well to show that they are town (just like how I don't put very much focus on setups). Claim aside, why would he even sign up for the game if he doesn't want to play VT, the most common role? VT is the core of the game, the power roles are the fluff (especially in games like this one with only two power roles). Side note, I've been cop/tracker twice out of three previous games, and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable for me. VT is a much more enjoyable role IMO, less pressure and you can more freely speak your mind. It was to make a meta read on her and WarWaffle I only played 1 game with him and he seemed to be posting the same way he did in the last newbie game when he was Vet. Damdred's entrance post is all he got atm so I need to wait for a meta read on him. Although rsoultins only entrance was to vote you she didn't explain her reasoning for why she votign for you now. rsoultin welcome to the game now why calling BS on Tfrel's post? If it's a joke vote I can maybe understand but I don't see anything totally wrong with his vote except for the fact that gerpit had not posted yet so (shrugs) What's wrong with it is that the Trfel, before a single word was spoken...in fact practically the second the game started...decided to vote for someone because they are "intentionally playing bad". Not only has geript not posted at all in this thread, but Trfel himself has been very effective with quite minimal posts, and is usually very slow to vote or scumread people until he is sure. It may well be a pressure vote (the second the game started!) but not only is it more aggressive than I've come to expect from him, but his explanation is inherently false which he should know based on his own play in the last two games.Thus, BS meter. I've coached Trfel last game and I told him how to generate discussion. I can easily see him trying to put my "lesson" in that post.
Okay, GB. I can buy that explanation.
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On January 17 2015 13:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:On January 17 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 17 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On January 17 2015 10:17 Trfel wrote:
I'm back.
LightningStrike's play does seem rather weird so far. First he says that my early vote is scummy, and then says that it is towny. Regardless of whether my early vote was a good or bad play, LightningStrike's view changed on it after DarthPunk and LoneMeow expressed opinions that it was a slightly townie thing to do. And then, asking for rsoultin makes no sense at all. Why rsoultin? If it's to make a meta read, how about all of the rest of us he has played with before?
GlowingBear's opening seems pretty bad as well. In general I don't like claiming, since I feel that town players should simply play well to show that they are town (just like how I don't put very much focus on setups). Claim aside, why would he even sign up for the game if he doesn't want to play VT, the most common role? VT is the core of the game, the power roles are the fluff (especially in games like this one with only two power roles). Side note, I've been cop/tracker twice out of three previous games, and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable for me. VT is a much more enjoyable role IMO, less pressure and you can more freely speak your mind. It was to make a meta read on her and WarWaffle I only played 1 game with him and he seemed to be posting the same way he did in the last newbie game when he was Vet. Damdred's entrance post is all he got atm so I need to wait for a meta read on him. Although rsoultins only entrance was to vote you she didn't explain her reasoning for why she votign for you now. rsoultin welcome to the game now why calling BS on Tfrel's post? If it's a joke vote I can maybe understand but I don't see anything totally wrong with his vote except for the fact that gerpit had not posted yet so (shrugs) What's wrong with it is that the Trfel, before a single word was spoken...in fact practically the second the game started...decided to vote for someone because they are "intentionally playing bad". Not only has geript not posted at all in this thread, but Trfel himself has been very effective with quite minimal posts, and is usually very slow to vote or scumread people until he is sure. It may well be a pressure vote (the second the game started!) but not only is it more aggressive than I've come to expect from him, but his explanation is inherently false which he should know based on his own play in the last two games.Thus, BS meter. Why would scum put the spotlight on himself from the get go for no reason? Shit like this always looks bad but the underlying point ends up being that they don't give a fuck what they look like which is a townie trait because scum ALWAYS care what they look like due to their inherent feelings of guilt. Do you think Trfel is scum? Cause he is my biggest town read in the game so far. What does BS meter mean exactly? Why does Trefel's early vote fit with the mafia agenda? It means that his explanation does not line up with what I know of him. The vote I could really care less about. I think it's preemptive but not alignment indicative. His explanation for it directly contradicts the simple fact that Trfel plays effectively with a low post count, and LS is right in that I don't think I've ever seen him policy lynch. (Note that my vote never made it to the voting thread. I don't necessarily think he's scum but I want him to explain to me why the sudden near-180 in his play.) This is bullshit. You never tell someone you're doing a pressure vote because you reveal you're doing it just for pressure. You're just trying to push him to look contributive.
xP Lol, sure. Cause it wasn't at all straight up mimicking him or anything to make a point.  GB, how much do I really need to do to look contributive? You may want to finish reading the thread before you start making judgments.
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On January 17 2015 19:14 jarjarbinks wrote:
Finally Questions!
Rsoultin: What is your stance on DP?
If I had to sum it up in one word: Trfel-centric.
His filter appears to be a light push on Trfel for Trfel's entrance post, town-reading him, convincing others to, and pressuring anyone who doesn't. I can post quotes as evidence, but as he has a 1-page filter it's pretty self-evident right now.
(Oh, I forgot to mention trolling GB. Probably because that is just fluff anyway xP)
Also, JarJar, I know you said after the game, but your posts just now established your innocence enough for me to not want to lynch you Day 1, so I think you're doing better than you realize. We can talk more after the game.
@DP...do you have any reads on anything/anyone else? You asked me for mine...quid pro quo bro.
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On January 17 2015 22:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 15:35 Trfel wrote:GlowingBear, I'm assuming that you typed those posts over the course of reading the game? So the first things you said were not influenced on the later things? The rest of this post will be using that assumption. You read jarjarbinks D1 from the previous game (Newbie Mafia). You know that his play was miserable on D1 there as well, and he was town (his play was considerably better after D1). Someone is going to have to teach him how to play D1 (looking at you rsoultin), but I don't think I can see myself lynching him for inactivity, even if he provided a terrible excuse for it. On January 17 2015 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 17 2015 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think there is a voting thread for this game fyi guys. Also what is the BS Meter? I never heard you use this term before can you explain it please? OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE What is so horrible about this post? I mean, it is surprising that LightningStrike didn't know what rsoultin meant by BS meter, but I don't understand why that makes it a horrible post. Are you saying that LightningStrike is scum because of this, or just that the post is bad? I also noticed that you said that one of my posts was bad, and then one of my paragraphs was bad and full of fluff. Then you townread me. What is the reasoning behind this read? That I attempted to follow your advice for promoting discussion? (for the record, I fully realize that your entrance post is intended to do the exact same thing, and I tried to make a point of it, but no one else responded, so..) Also, why the emphasis on Damdred? + Show Spoiler [For GlowingBear] +For obvious reasons we can't discuss the effectiveness of my attempts to promote discussion now, but hopefully you can help me with this after the game? I understand the thing abou jar jar, but his opening is very bad and it fits more of a scum perspective because: (1) If there is an ongoing discussion, opening the game saying that he is excited without giving any thoughts is extremely contradictory and it doesn't fit town perspective. If he is excited, he saw something different. If he saw something different, he will probably comment it. This means his excitement is a forced emotion. (2) An opening post suggesting a no lynch is something comety disconnected. A no lynch discussion helps no one but mafia. A no lynch is only helpful to town in specific situations and that's definetely not day1. And, if the game is exciting, a no lynch isn't the correct conclusion? Anyway, he just ignores the ongoing discussion to throw a bad idea into the thread.
GB, has your opinion on JarJar changed any in light of his more recent posts? I think we can all agree that his opening was bad.
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On January 18 2015 02:43 jarjarbinks wrote:
Lol im guessing saying I suck at this game is a bad way to go.
Gereipt asked for my reads on people. I thought I had good quotes to follow up my thoughts on some of the most active guys. The inactive guys not so much. Still wanted to shed my thoughts on them though in case.
Damdred: for your reaction vote, did you include shining in your scum list to see if anyone would jump on it based on what was said before the game started? Or did you just do it because you needed someone else to through on your scum team?
So, JarJar, hi.
I think the problem is you stated things about people without explicitly saying what you think about those actions in your reads post. If you could quote yourself and add: town, null, could be scum or something to each of your comments that would help me at least get a better idea of where you're at.
(I know what I think about those particular points, but that doesn't tell me what you think.)
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On January 18 2015 02:33 Damdred wrote:Here in the knowledge bomb for today guys; Town: Trfel: Slightly different from what I am used to in other games, the pressure vote is not alignment indicative as Geript is a good enough player to do this with post restrictions as scum or as town. However the followup to people commenting on his stance is really good, he calls to attention the problems in LS stance at the time which is a good observation and shows that someone is really reading the game. Hes inquisitive about why people are doing things and he seems to be in the thick of all talks when hes in the thread. For now hes in the town pile and i'm pretty sold that he shouldn't be the lynch today at all. Disagree. You may be able to convince me null or not best lynch today, but I am far from putting him in any town pool at the moment.LightningStrike: Some of the stances he has taken seem a bit flimsy at times and it seems like he reverts on them as time passes sometimes. Which gave him a few scum points at first from me. But when questioned about where he was in the game he took little to no time at having actual somewhat developed thoughts on the people in the game. Was really quick to answer and hes not scared to push what he is thinking in the thread (or just put it out there) Pretty sure he is town here. Agreed. Pretty sure he's town.RS: Hes town, he pressures people. Hes reading the thread, he has follow up on what he says and hes asking opinions to try to figure out peoples alignments. Wouldn't lynch him today at all. Well, obviously xPNull: LM: Why you not have your neck out and giving actual thoughts instead of just reacting to what people say to you  . Would like to see more from him, but like what I see so far.Warwaffle: not really rememerable but hasn't posted much See above.Shining: where are you baby doll? Breshke: Who are you again? what do you think? The only thing in the whole thread to catch his eye was my push on Trfel? Weird. Null for me, too.Scum: TLCoolName: I have talked about him before now and I will reinterate. He attacks JarJar at one point and JarJar answers him, instead of interacting with him and trying to figure out his alignment. He disengages and says oh I like this post and never returns to it. When confronted with this information he says he just hasn't analyzed what JarJar has done. Shouldn't be much to analysis and Jarjar was in the thread at the time so he missed a good opoortunity to actually analysis the player and figure out his alignment. And then he switched to talking about me or rather slow pushing a target, he quoted something before the game started. He waited for someone else to vote and threw his vote down with that person. He claims it was a reaction test, but his reaction is not one a town would generally make. Instead of talking it through and trying to understand alignments of both he retreats from the confrontation and says just do analysis on everyone else. This guy is scum, hes not interested in finding out who is scum or pressuring people. He wants to find an easy target park there after someone else has fired the first shot and go on his merry way. Eh, I'm not putting as much weight on this as you are. At best a slight scum lean for me. Unless he's a smurf or something I think his questioning isn't bad for a newbie, even if he did wait to vote until after GB did. The behavior he is calling out is definitely scummy behavior.General thoughts: I didn't bother to do everyone yet, Geripts huge post is full of good things that I want more peoples comments on. He might be onto something but I haven't rad DP filter or contextualized it yet. GB could really be town here, anger at the start seems authentic and GB hates being VT. Some good thoughts but not as many as drunk bear should usually have at this point. I'm undecided about JarJar currently, his recent postings looked pretty ok, but his previous postings looked bad. So can't really put him in a null town or scum currently but might lynch him depending on play as the game goes along. Overall cool is the scummiest thing in the thread and people should comment on what I wrote.
Commented on your reads above. Additionally I like Geript's post, probably because the majority of it were things that lined up with my own thoughts. Even though it's just one post it has so much meat that I think scum would have a hard time producing that. If he continues in the same vein I have no problem calling him town.
JarJar did ask me what the purpose of Day 1 was after last game, and I did tell him that I think the most valuable part of Day 1 was getting people to talk and see if it lined up with their actions later. That is how I found Celestial last game. The reason I bring this up is his posts are ringing true to me, so I don't think he's a good lynch for today. People really should stop confusing new with stupid. My brother isn't stupid and has never claimed to be, but he is new, so it makes sense that it's taking him some time to get the hang of things.
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On January 18 2015 03:08 Damdred wrote:
Maybe your right about TL, i'll give him a bit more time to develop but i'll come back to him later on.
We will probably disagree about tr but I think i'm right.
The point of D1 is to find mafia and kill mafia !!!!!!!!!
Who are your scum today rs
Hm...I'm testing something currently Damdred, so I'll get back to you on this later when I have something to show for it.
Mostly right now I'm determining who I don't want to lynch, particularly out of the group of people who I think would make for easy mislynches. So far that group consists of:
LS
JarJar
WarWaffle
Geript <- I don't think he'd be easy to mislynch anymore, but before he probably would have been
Shining <- Cop check if we have one I think, though if he's still AWOL Day 2 I'd be down for a lynch
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On January 18 2015 03:17 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 19:04 jarjarbinks wrote:
Those were the major reads I got from what I have read up to when I started posting. I'm tired so I will not elaborate on the other people who have posted besides basic thoughts.
Gereipt: Your analysis seems fair. I feel like you would do this no matter what game you play. I haven't played this game to know if you left something out (if your mafia). So I can't give you a solid town or mafia read for now.
Lonemeow: Only defended Trfel and questioned Rsoultin's questioning. Probably due to lack of playing with Rsoultin. This is a possible lurker in my eyes. I guess we shall find out tomorrow.
CoolITLname- definite lurker! Or you know, could be sleeping or something...lol WE SHALL SEE
Waffle- Tried to ask LS a question to establish credibility. Let's see what he does.
DP- I liked gereipts analysis on DP. Very jumpy on Rsoultin for questioning Trfel as well as "missed" Trfel "making waves". Possible she could have just jumped on Rsoultin for the same reasons Rsoultin jumped on Trfel thought. heyro sis! I'll attempt to do what you asked. I'll attempt to do what you asked except i'll put everyone in the section I think they should be in. Town: LS Null: Gereipt Rsoultin Trfel LoneMeow Breshke GB Damdred Scum: DP CoolITLName Definitely expect changes in the next 36 hours though. Hopefully I'll have more people out of the Null category. Damdred, I have another question for you in a second...
Ouch. Yeah. That looks like a current list rather than a list based off your initial post (you also left off WW who you mentioned in your summary above).
Are you scumreading Cool for lurking?
What makes DP scum? Questioning me? I see nothing inherently wrong with questions as long as they're leading somewhere.
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Damdred, is Cool's filter the only one you've checked so far?
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On January 18 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote:
I've read everyones filter besides DP just procrastinating on his
Interesting. I don't dislike your play so far...but that response is interesting. Can anyone else point out why it raises concerns?
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On January 18 2015 03:45 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 03:23 rsoultin wrote:On January 18 2015 03:17 jarjarbinks wrote:On January 17 2015 19:04 jarjarbinks wrote:
Those were the major reads I got from what I have read up to when I started posting. I'm tired so I will not elaborate on the other people who have posted besides basic thoughts.
Gereipt: Your analysis seems fair. I feel like you would do this no matter what game you play. I haven't played this game to know if you left something out (if your mafia). So I can't give you a solid town or mafia read for now.
Lonemeow: Only defended Trfel and questioned Rsoultin's questioning. Probably due to lack of playing with Rsoultin. This is a possible lurker in my eyes. I guess we shall find out tomorrow.
CoolITLname- definite lurker! Or you know, could be sleeping or something...lol WE SHALL SEE
Waffle- Tried to ask LS a question to establish credibility. Let's see what he does.
DP- I liked gereipts analysis on DP. Very jumpy on Rsoultin for questioning Trfel as well as "missed" Trfel "making waves". Possible she could have just jumped on Rsoultin for the same reasons Rsoultin jumped on Trfel thought. heyro sis! I'll attempt to do what you asked. I'll attempt to do what you asked except i'll put everyone in the section I think they should be in. Town: LS Null: Gereipt Rsoultin Trfel LoneMeow Breshke GB Damdred Scum: DP CoolITLName Definitely expect changes in the next 36 hours though. Hopefully I'll have more people out of the Null category. Damdred, I have another question for you in a second... Ouch. Yeah. That looks like a current list rather than a list based off your initial post (you also left off WW who you mentioned in your summary above). Are you scumreading Cool for lurking? What makes DP scum? Questioning me? I see nothing inherently wrong with questions as long as they're leading somewhere. Yep current list. Not scumming Cool for lurking. More scumming him for leaving me so fast. Seems to be going after the easy target. I did leave out Waffle. He would also be on null.
DP, JarJar. What is the basis of your read on him?
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