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On January 27 2015 14:00 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 13:48 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Honestly the reason I never analyzed your post was because you called dp scum on it then buddies him later so I never bothered to read it. By pie you are scum. I'll answer the rest later, but still scum reading someone for changing stances is bs and you know it.
Look how you react you are disconnected at points not even knowing that most of the reasons breshke brings up for lm that you call good have already been stated in thread? That's total lack of reading right there, yet its good then but bad ealier.
and no this is different at times you make this huge effort to look towny when you need to be and then you go back into this idgaf mood where you do jack shit. Its more like Russian mafia than any of your town games shrug This is something that I noticed, too. I'll want to see if it's in geript's filter, where he changed his mind. I have to ask, though, why would that keep you from analyzing his post? geript, if you're here, can you explain when your nullish read on DP changed and why? Nah I think he's town. If I just happily waddled my way into his pocket free of charge, then that's my fault. I've reread his filter. There are a few alarm bells, but 95% of it is exactly how I remember him playing as town.
I meant from early game in your first 1-2? analysis posts?
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Okay, Damdred...I see several posts in your filter pressuring trfel. But you decided you wanted to lynch JJB instead for his filter. That's...I'll be honest, it just seems a bit strange to me, that you're giving trfel flak but then go, I want to lynch JJB, but your first lynch vote is LM for his posts catching up?
If you thought trfel was scum why would you want to lynch his top scum? I'm having trouble understanding this.
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Hey, DP...
Why is your case dependent on my dives? Do you have one against me at all, or are you making it up? I think you may be making it up.
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On January 27 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote:
Hey, DP...
Why is your case dependent on my dives? Do you have one against me at all, or are you making it up? I think you may be making it up.
Your reasoning and rationale for your no lynch was inconsistent.
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My reasoning and rationale are not mutually exclusive. You or geript should have been the NK, objectively, and you weren't. If you're a scum team together that brings the arrogance to new heights given how hard-aligned you two have been the whole game, which is why I think one of you has pocketed the other one. It's paranoid, and WIFOMy, yes, but lol I fear a geript or DP scumteam cause I don't see town winning in that case.
I also really could use the extra time. I should be going to bed but I have a lot of game still to go through.
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Was that your case? That still doesn't explain why you have to wait for my dives...
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On January 27 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote:
Hey, DP...
Why is your case dependent on my dives? Do you have one against me at all, or are you making it up? I think you may be making it up.
Your reasoning and rationale for your no lynch was inconsistent. You said you would no lynch but actually wanted to lynch damdred.
You said you wanted to no-lynch in case geript and I were scum together.
You said you wanted to no lynch to have more time to dive filters and figure out the game.
Then When I asked you why you wanted to no lynch you said it was because of me and geript.
On January 27 2015 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 12:39 rsoultin wrote:
cause I think you've pocketed geript xP This is bullshit.
Which was bullshit because you had not once mentioned that as the reason.
Not once.
The main thing I was suspect of you over was the fact that you said you didn't want to lynch today because you wanted more time to figure out the game, and then you were not doing anything of the sort. You were not making cases and diving filters like you wanted to and which was your rationale //at one point// for a no lynch.
But then when you said you were gonna be diving filters and solving the game your behaviour became more consistent with your stated desires.
You then happily shit up the thread with geript and are basically still tunnelling damdred.
So really I don;t see you doing the kind of things you said were the reasons you wanted more time that the no lynch would provide you with.
Like your filter dive and case making came down to a few posts tunneling damdred some more, you are not trying to figure anything out past that point even though you argued at length that you wanted to no lynch for that reason.
Anyway that is what my suspicions were over.
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On January 27 2015 14:39 rsoultin wrote:
My reasoning and rationale are not mutually exclusive. You or geript should have been the NK, objectively, and you weren't. If you're a scum team together that brings the arrogance to new heights given how hard-aligned you two have been the whole game, which is why I think one of you has pocketed the other one. It's paranoid, and WIFOMy, yes, but lol I fear a geript or DP scumteam cause I don't see town winning in that case.
I also really could use the extra time. I should be going to bed but I have a lot of game still to go through.
I specifically asked you to tell me why you wanted to no lynch and you said something you had never ever mentioned previously and ignored all your previous reasoning entirely.
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On January 27 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 12:16 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 12:11 Breshke wrote:
DP why do you not see a scum team with me not in it? Cause: Geript is town and Damdred looks townie whenever he tries. Day one and Last lynch. I think the Vote yesterday was scum/town due to weird lynch inertia and the vote being so closely contested. You conveniently afk'd from two lynches and were there just before the lynch of LM before disappearing again as noted by geript. Rso - Shining whilst possible doesn't make as much sense due to the way Rso refused to swap her vote to you yesterday which, if she is scum and you are town is a completely arbitary decision. ALSO Your play changed weirdly at mylo. I wasn't around for like over 12 hours before the LM lynch i don't know if you are flat out lieing or are just mistaken you might want to go look. Explain the weird inertia? How would that lynch have been different if it was town/town? Also how is my play different? Stop calling me scum for things and not explaining them
On January 27 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
Also why do you think damdred has only been tring D1 and around the LM lynch? The time when he has not been trying correlates with LS getting a red check which very well could have demotivated him.
Also @damdred im really suprised you don;t even consider no lynching.
On January 19 2015 12:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 11:58 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2015 11:49 Damdred wrote:
I have to cover all of my basis though, and we actually need to analysis the claim.
Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down.
Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game.
I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin. Eh, messy. Was trying to work out my thoughts with Lonemeow (ironic, I know) since the only one I was pretty sure on was Trfel, but no one wanted to lynch him and I didn't have any further arguments apart from what I already posted. Plus, yeah, I get stubborn and tunnel about people being insincere, when their words don't line up with their actions. GB never felt like a good lynch to me. I didn't want to lynch LS. I feel I've got a pretty good tone read on my brother, so I didn't want to lynch JarJar. And no, I didn't want to lynch WW either. I actually was still deciding what to do when JarJar claimed and didn't see it until I'd already changed my vote. There was something like 90 seconds left at that time. If anything, I found the lynch immensely frustrating. And much as I think that geript can't be scum unless I'm wrong on either JarJar or GB, that trfel in two pools thing still is niggling at me. It may not mean anything, though, odd as it seems and much as geript didn't want to actually explain it >< Look at Russian Mafia for geripts last scum game, it was a really good scum game for him one that he probably should of hard carried to the victory. Honestly its one of the reasons hes not my #1 town, he makes me more paranoid than HF does as scum I think. Its a pretty small lynch pool for you tomorrow then?
This post shows that you obviously respect geripts mafia play yet you are clearing him solely based of the fact that he pulled the vote or off a town or at least attempted to in two EoDs. Why is this so convincing to you, why is it impossible he does this as scum?
It is very possible im being really dumb here because yeah one of the people saying no lynching is dumb has to be town but i still don't understand what is so bad with no lynching. Yes we will have one less town voice and yes it will most likely be Geript because everyone seems to have him as town. I don't see why we can't even decide the lynch today, the nk happens and we just lynch that person. One town voting wrong can still fuck up the lynch today so i still don't think we are in that much of a worse position tomorrow if not a better one because whoever dies will be confirmed town.
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On January 27 2015 14:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote:
Hey, DP...
Why is your case dependent on my dives? Do you have one against me at all, or are you making it up? I think you may be making it up. Your reasoning and rationale for your no lynch was inconsistent. You said you would no lynch but actually wanted to lynch damdred. You said you wanted to no-lynch in case geript and I were scum together. You said you wanted to no lynch to have more time to dive filters and figure out the game. Then When I asked you why you wanted to no lynch you said it was because of me and geript. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 12:39 rsoultin wrote:
cause I think you've pocketed geript xP This is bullshit. Which was bullshit because you had not once mentioned that as the reason. Not once. The main thing I was suspect of you over was the fact that you said you didn't want to lynch today because you wanted more time to figure out the game, and then you were not doing anything of the sort. You were not making cases and diving filters like you wanted to and which was your rationale //at one point// for a no lynch. But then when you said you were gonna be diving filters and solving the game your behaviour became more consistent with your stated desires. You then happily shit up the thread with geript and are basically still tunnelling damdred. So really I don;t see you doing the kind of things you said were the reasons you wanted more time that the no lynch would provide you with. Like your filter dive and case making came down to a few posts tunneling damdred some more, you are not trying to figure anything out past that point even though you argued at length that you wanted to no lynch for that reason. Anyway that is what my suspicions were over.
I started with his filter to see if I was wrong, and it's not really tunneling when I'm asking him questions, now is it? I'm not actually finished, DP. His was just the first.
I don't know if Damdred is the one I want to lynch today. I still want to check shining to see if I agree with geript's case.
I still think one of you probably pocketed the other one, and I think you're the more likely culprit than geript, but that may change when I look at geript.
I need to look at breshke again since so many people were scumming him.
I'll have questions for you, too, I'm sure if you want to stand by.
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On January 27 2015 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:39 rsoultin wrote:
My reasoning and rationale are not mutually exclusive. You or geript should have been the NK, objectively, and you weren't. If you're a scum team together that brings the arrogance to new heights given how hard-aligned you two have been the whole game, which is why I think one of you has pocketed the other one. It's paranoid, and WIFOMy, yes, but lol I fear a geript or DP scumteam cause I don't see town winning in that case.
I also really could use the extra time. I should be going to bed but I have a lot of game still to go through. I specifically asked you to tell me why you wanted to no lynch and you said something you had never ever mentioned previously and ignored all your previous reasoning entirely.
And? They're not mutually exclusive. It certainly isn't going to win me any brownie points with you if I'm trying to manipulate you to say that I think you may be pocketing geript.
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Breshke, do you think geript's case on shining is good? Which parts do you agree with, if any?
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On January 27 2015 14:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 14:39 rsoultin wrote:
My reasoning and rationale are not mutually exclusive. You or geript should have been the NK, objectively, and you weren't. If you're a scum team together that brings the arrogance to new heights given how hard-aligned you two have been the whole game, which is why I think one of you has pocketed the other one. It's paranoid, and WIFOMy, yes, but lol I fear a geript or DP scumteam cause I don't see town winning in that case.
I also really could use the extra time. I should be going to bed but I have a lot of game still to go through. I specifically asked you to tell me why you wanted to no lynch and you said something you had never ever mentioned previously and ignored all your previous reasoning entirely. And? They're not mutually exclusive. It certainly isn't going to win me any brownie points with you if I'm trying to manipulate you to say that I think you may be pocketing geript.
Did I say they were mutually exclusive. no I said your stated reasons were inconsistent. Like if someone asks you why you want to no lynch, why would you talk about something that you have never stated before and ignore everything else. Why would you not also include those reasons when specifically asked?
Well because you are bullshitting your reasons for wanting the no lynch IMO.
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On January 27 2015 14:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:50 rsoultin wrote:On January 27 2015 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 14:39 rsoultin wrote:
My reasoning and rationale are not mutually exclusive. You or geript should have been the NK, objectively, and you weren't. If you're a scum team together that brings the arrogance to new heights given how hard-aligned you two have been the whole game, which is why I think one of you has pocketed the other one. It's paranoid, and WIFOMy, yes, but lol I fear a geript or DP scumteam cause I don't see town winning in that case.
I also really could use the extra time. I should be going to bed but I have a lot of game still to go through. I specifically asked you to tell me why you wanted to no lynch and you said something you had never ever mentioned previously and ignored all your previous reasoning entirely. And? They're not mutually exclusive. It certainly isn't going to win me any brownie points with you if I'm trying to manipulate you to say that I think you may be pocketing geript. Did I say they were mutually exclusive. no I said your stated reasons were inconsistent. Like if someone asks you why you want to no lynch, why would you talk about something that you have never stated before and ignore everything else. Why would you not also include those reasons when specifically asked? Well because you are bullshitting your reasons for wanting the no lynch IMO.
I don't actually see the advantage that scum has for a no-lynch. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't. It's true that regardless, one townie voting wrong is enough to screw the lynch, and that doesn't change with 6 or 5 players.
You already knew why I wanted a no-lynch. Were you just hoping I'd answer differently so that you could say my answers weren't the same?
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Is that really your only reason that you think I'm scum? You've been the king of weak reasons lately.
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Anyway by now you should have figured out by now that if you are town and you think breshke is town that the rest of the townies are not gonna no lynch so you need to make sure you are all on the same wagon so scum can't influence the lynch.
YET!
You are sticking with some shitty and inconsistent reasoning for wanting to no lynch you aren't really pushing the wagon you want (damdred) to the rest of the townies that you 100% need to vote with you your scum team is not really defined.
All you are certain of is that your buddy bresh is town and that you want to no lynch for a reason that is not genuine or consistent.
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On January 27 2015 14:57 rsoultin wrote:
Is that really your only reason that you think I'm scum? You've been the king of weak reasons lately.
No. Take all the countless other weird things about you stated by myself and others. I am just adding to the general case against you in the thread.
I do not need to list every scummy thing you have ever done over and over again. If you want to know, read the filter that you have claimed to have been wanting to read for the last two cycles.
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On January 27 2015 14:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway by now you should have figured out by now that if you are town and you think breshke is town that the rest of the townies are not gonna no lynch so you need to make sure you are all on the same wagon so scum can't influence the lynch.
YET!
You are sticking with some shitty and inconsistent reasoning for wanting to no lynch you aren't really pushing the wagon you want (damdred) to the rest of the townies that you 100% need to vote with you your scum team is not really defined.
All you are certain of is that your buddy bresh is town and that you want to no lynch for a reason that is not genuine or consistent.
Shush, child. I'm reading geript xP I may have to leave my conclusions in the morning and hope the rest of town doesn't shit the bed, but I'm going to try to do this right.
Geeeeeeript. More a point of curiosity than anything: why do you do these psychological question thingies? You did it with both me and JJB, but the one you did with him seemed more on point. Kinda.
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On January 27 2015 15:00 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 14:57 rsoultin wrote:
Is that really your only reason that you think I'm scum? You've been the king of weak reasons lately. No. Take all the countless other weird things about you stated by myself and others. I am just adding to the general case against you in the thread. I do not need to list every scummy thing you have ever done over and over again. If you want to know, read the filter that you have claimed to have been wanting to read for the last two cycles.
Regardless you're probably going to want to consolidate it just a little at least if you genuinely want to lynch me. Though I guess your vote is still on Breshke.
Why not me?
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DP, where are you at? Which of Breshke/Shining/rsoultin is town do you think?
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