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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
January 26 2015 08:55 GMT
#1981
On January 26 2015 17:53 geript wrote:
Like Breshke really doesn't post as Katie. He tends to just pick at minor stuff on the periphery.


as katie? can you link me the game you are looking at?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 09:09 GMT
#1982
As much. On phone. Look in LS' filter. He linked both mafia games. Metal and Carol I think? He was town in 2 newbies, student 4 and campus. I think those are all/most of his games.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 26 2015 12:54 GMT
#1983
I'm not buddying RSo well i dont actually know the exact definition of that but i am just really certain she is town.

I was so out of youch witht he thread like night one or something because i had missed so much and RSo noticed this brought it up then started interacting with me basically bringing me back into the game and making me want to play again. Then all throughout the game she is always posting stuff down the same line of thought as me. Like i go to post it and bam there's RSo basically writing my thoughts down. It is so similar to the one other game i have played with her (one game obviously hardly means shit) and we were both town although i probably played better that game.

It is even more obvious to me that she is town this phase and the last. One she didn't switch to me which means nothing in itself but if she was scum it would be so easy for her to just push my misslynch today and win the game because it until recently it seemed everyone else was happy with me being scum.

The main reason i want to no lynch is because it would suck if geript and DP were the two remaining. I DON'T THINK THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE I STILL THINK GERIPT IS TOWN ESPECIALLY WITH HIM OPPOSING THE LYNCH ON ME BECAUSE WHATS THE POINT OF DOING THAT AS SCUM?? But no lynching and geript dieing means we don't lost to a world that like no one has considered (for good reason) other than i think RSo very early in the game. Also before anyone loses their shit yes i assume geript will die because killing anyone else will disprove any worlds people are actually wanting to lynch

Also i wasn't in carol. I was in two newbies first that i wouldn't even count because i basically just sheeped and was even more of a dead weight for town. Then I was in student and campus. Then two scum games in a row being Metal and new years
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 26 2015 13:30 GMT
#1984
Day 4: Current Vote Count

rsoultin (0): Damdred
Damdred (0): rsoultin
Breshke (2): Damdred, DarthPunk
No-Lynch (2): Breshke, rsoultin

Not Voting (2): The Shining, geript

Currently, Breshke is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 26 2015 13:33 GMT
#1985
On January 26 2015 21:54 Breshke wrote:
But no lynching and geript dieing means we don't lost to a world that like no one has considered


Absolutely this.

geript, I think you're town because you are actually considering the possibilities instead of trying to punch through a lynch. These poe lynches based on shaky heuristics make my skin crawl. With 72 extra hours to talk things through, people can actually look through my 21 pages and catch something if I'm scum, yeah?

Why didn't mafia kill you over JJB?

That question bugs me when they still have a roleblocker. I don't think there's a good NK for mafia. I think the best explanation for you still being alive today is you're predisposed to not scumread them, and if that's the case...any NK they could make would be bad for them. It's perhaps a little tinfoil, but with the people who came out so vehemently against a no-lynch, that makes me feel I'm not on completely the wrong track.

I think you're defaulting to Shining because you don't know what else to do. I don't think that's a good reason. If you don't think it's Breshke or me, Shining has to have a scum mate, and it has to be one of the people you keep thinking are town.

All I want is a chance to really get into everyone's filters and find scum instead of a last-minute scramble, and I don't think mafia can make any more NKs without giving us some form of information.

I really think the no-lynch is the best play here.

Also, um, yeah. There's no reason for me to not switch wagons as mafia unless you assume Breshke and I are mafia. But like, the only reason people have to assume that is because the wagons were close? It's just plain stupid. Show me how bresh is mafia, or how I am, beyond a close vote. Super bad play.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
January 26 2015 13:46 GMT
#1986
Neither of you post anything for hours and then you both post big posts within 30 minutes of each other and they are backing each other up. And you are in completely separate time-zones.

How convenient for you both.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 26 2015 13:53 GMT
#1987
On January 26 2015 22:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Neither of you post anything for hours and then you both post big posts within 30 minutes of each other and they are backing each other up. And you are in completely separate time-zones.

How convenient for you both.


Add this to poe and the vote was close.

DP, how is breshke scum?

How am I scum?

Who but mafia benefits from trying to fast-track a vote without thinking it through? If you're town, please take the time to really consider what you're doing. None of your arguments are real arguments.

Posting within 30 minutes of each other doesn't make anyone mafia. It's just before 8 a.m. my time and I work at 9. As simple as that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 26 2015 14:02 GMT
#1988
I think it's actually pretty telling that instead of coming back with a case against me like Damdred said he would, all he did was unvote and post that he still thought I was scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 26 2015 14:22 GMT
#1989
That's interesting, Sunday is my busy work day and didn't feel like doing it last night I just went home and slept.

If you read RS post, he keeps talking to me like he knows i'm town. like when he says Damdred you can't be this stupid, its not being stupid if i'm mafia its me pushing an agenda. But in almost all of his posts he has some form of speak that is like hes talking to someone he thinks is bad town.

That's pretty telling to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
January 26 2015 14:23 GMT
#1990
You are fixated on a 'correct' form of scum hunting. It doesn't exist an what you deem to be 'correct' actually is just as valid as my case on breshe.


I have caught scum before for similar reasons and will again. Are you looking for some sort of mega case or scum slip? They are nice but they aren't even that common. people here will correctly lynch scum based on one or two points in a large filter.

I would also like to point out that your 'correct' scum hunting mslynched someone who to me was clearly townie so maybe you should consider that whatever it is you think you know about the way this game should be played, I know better. I have more experience and have lynched countless scum by doing it my way.

But hey you could be scum and playing to your win condition which seems ever more likely. I think breshe is scum I think Gerry is wrong and I think you are outing yourself more and more as you and. Breshke seem to hardcore push your agenda at mylo.

And with thAt I am off to bed.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 14:25 GMT
#1991
Lol @ all the people who are saying I'm town for what im doing today when I'd do almost exactly the same thing as mafia. I've literally have said I think these 2 guys are town but idk. Like I think my vote could end up anywhere today.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 26 2015 14:27 GMT
#1992
Geript right now this is where you are at from what I can see

Town:
Geript
DP
Breshke

which leaves shining and rs? That one feels a bit weird to me
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 14:28 GMT
#1993
Like here's the thing. Mafia dont need to win today. They can team up and go for it. Or they can include their partner in their reads and consolidate on them. Calling a town town today literally means nothing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 14:30 GMT
#1994
On January 26 2015 23:27 Damdred wrote:
Geript right now this is where you are at from what I can see

Town:
Geript
DP
Breshke

which leaves shining and rs? That one feels a bit weird to me

My previous read on DP was town but I need to read him specifically. He's kinda been given a free pass in hopes that he'd die or I'd die and because I thought he was really towny. I just need to sit down and analyze him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 14:32 GMT
#1995
As for shining/RS feeling weird, I agree. It kinda does. I really don't know what to make of RS since 21 pages and felt really towny early on.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 14:34 GMT
#1996
Like I'm pretty sure that I'll probably end up thinking 4 people are town, maybe 5. I'm just going to lynch whoever I think is least towny.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 26 2015 14:39 GMT
#1997
Erg I wish I hadn't of went ugh D1 and just got nk'd instead of being in mylo.

Heres the problem i'm having, IF breshke is mafia I think Rsoultin could very well be town. I went through breshkes mafia games and he never 100% town reads a partner, bresh either attacks them or gives them light town reads in my eyes. Im not sure that Breshke would basically green check a team mate, which is complete wifom but im' struggling with it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 18:44 GMT
#1998
I'll be home in an hour or so but I just got done hiking a few miles for a job I have. So I may not be entirely awake.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 26 2015 19:40 GMT
#1999
@damdred...saying youre not stupid and that what youre doing regarding blazing ahead blindly was actuallu implying youre mafia. i havent hard dived you yet though amd was hoping if i was wrong about your alignment youd rethink your position

@dp...i was right on ls, jjb and trfel, all of whome you were wrong on. also ww. so my methods arent completely worthless. upu need to demonstrate why someone is scum r
ather than make assumptions on unflipped wagons and base your /entire/ analysis on that. some is fine, but not the entire thing.

@geript...a no-lynch with this much uncertainty on everyones part is not terrible. id rather be relatively certain tham hand the game over to scum yolo guessing

shining and bresh scumteam is sort of a cop out imo without actually determining why theyre scummy. its not good enough just to say that the team /could/ work
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 26 2015 20:00 GMT
#2000
On January 27 2015 04:40 rsoultin wrote:
@damdred...saying youre not stupid and that what youre doing regarding blazing ahead blindly was actuallu implying youre mafia. i havent hard dived you yet though amd was hoping if i was wrong about your alignment youd rethink your position

@dp...i was right on ls, jjb and trfel, all of whome you were wrong on. also ww. so my methods arent completely worthless. upu need to demonstrate why someone is scum r
ather than make assumptions on unflipped wagons and base your /entire/ analysis on that. some is fine, but not the entire thing.

@geript...a no-lynch with this much uncertainty on everyones part is not terrible. id rather be relatively certain tham hand the game over to scum yolo guessing

shining and bresh scumteam is sort of a cop out imo without actually determining why theyre scummy. its not good enough just to say that the team /could/ work

No a no lynch literally does nothing. You still need 3 townies to vote together and with 4 town, you actually have better likelihood that you can get 3 together before the fourth screws things up. Even still, they kill me tonight as I'm universally townread and you're in the same situation of 1 townie can screw the pooch for the other 3 townies alive currently. Like you're literally saying right now, I would rather go into lylo without Geript to help give his opinion and guide the lynch than with Geript to do that. That literally makes zero sense. There are situations where at LYLO +1 townie it's beneficial to no lynch, but 90% of the time all it does is kill the guy who's generally townread and leave everyone in the same situation. Like if people aren't going to spend time to analyze the game today when it's lylo there's little to no expectation of them doing so tomorrow. I don't even understand why you buy Breshke's argument to no lynch. Like the 3 players with the most experience are saying there's no point to no lynching; why do you think that they're wrong? In the least, 1 of us is town and all of us agree on the point.
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