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Damdred
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The Shining
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RSo yeah I meant to loosely comment on that DP interaction, actually. Filter size isn't neccesarily alignment indicative and yet its been brought up that your filter size is questionable if you were a newbie scum player. It does seem like a hell of a lot but HTS was one of our biggest filters last game, flipped scum. I can't rule it out on filter size alone, especially since some of your filter is those interactions with Geript and DP that seemed to hit dead ends. I kind of agree with JJB, honestly. It was a good thing to catch, Damdred swapped off pretty fast, but you ran with that one as far as you could go. For me, its a question of why is Damdred under scrutiny for swapping off of one Town wagon to another, sort of similar to how Geript did D1. And you gave Geript a pass. It makes sense at first glance but in the full game context, its not as consistent as I've seen you be. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I actually like that question, Damdred. Breshke 100% town read RSo and gets at Damdred for being sure, without any doubts, of Geript and DP being town. Hypocrisy. Damn, I really have to rethink my read on RSo now. This buddy buddy system is a lot weirder from you 2 than it is from Geript and DP, vets with a few games together. Its unsettling. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 11:45 Damdred wrote: [/b][/b]I think RS is scum but i'm going to unvote for now just in case I change my mind and he gets hammered with people afk on him me. ##unvote You couldn't of nailed me d3 especially since the votes would of been tied and I wouldn't of voted to lynch myself. And you didn't have the votes to take out shining I think. So... you think Breshke looks scummy though even though you town read him? If I'd voted you first, yes, the tie would go to lynching you, and if you and I both voted shining, yes he would be lynched. Pointless conversation. No, I don't think Breshke looks scummy. You're taking my comments out of context. I said if i'm scum any scummy-looking townie, which is objectively anyone up for lynch who isn't scum, would do to secure the mislynch. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: [/b][/b]If I'd voted you first, yes, the tie would go to lynching you, and if you and I both voted shining, yes he would be lynched. Pointless conversation. No, I don't think Breshke looks scummy. You're taking my comments out of context. I said if i'm scum any scummy-looking townie, which is objectively anyone up for lynch who isn't scum, would do to secure the mislynch. If damdred flips scum who is scum? | ||
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DarthPunk
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:12 The Shining wrote: Also, RSo has Breshke as a town read but called Damdred, Breshke, myself scummy looking townies. If we're scummy looking, how do you know we're town? I know I'm picking at your wording but its kind of odd that you'd call us scummy looking, when you've been towning or nulling me and Bresh. I actually like that question, Damdred. Breshke 100% town read RSo and gets at Damdred for being sure, without any doubts, of Geript and DP being town. Hypocrisy. Damn, I really have to rethink my read on RSo now. This buddy buddy system is a lot weirder from you 2 than it is from Geript and DP, vets with a few games together. Its unsettling. Good lord this is a hypothetical situation -_- I said if I were scum, any scummy-looking townie would do. If I were scum and assuming one of you three were also scum, at least two would be scummy-looking townies. Please stop nitpicking what I'm saying | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
I don't know right now DP. Is it alright for me to not know? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:19 rsoultin wrote: [/b][/b]I don't know right now DP. Is it alright for me to not know? Well there are 5 players left not including yourself. You should kind of have an idea. Like just Through POE my solid townies I get you, Breshke, shining. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
Everytime I hit quote :D | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
That's why I'm resistant to a Breshke lynch, because I don't understand why Damdred would choose to buss him in MYLO. And I don't understand anyone who has absolutely no doubts about who scum is, like Damdred demonstrated. It is legitimately as simple as who looks scummier than who to me. | ||
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DarthPunk
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote: I looked back through Breshke's filter. I'm not seeing what is scummy about him. If you have a case, I'll consider it, but the person who seems most scummy to me right now is Damdred. That's why I'm resistant to a Breshke lynch, because I don't understand why Damdred would choose to buss him in MYLO. And I don't understand anyone who has absolutely no doubts about who scum is, like Damdred demonstrated. It is legitimately as simple as who looks scummier than who to me. I do. You know, have a case. Like are you even reading the thread. You keep doing fucky shit like that and it is incredibly off putting. | ||
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DarthPunk
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:23 DarthPunk wrote: Well there are 5 players left not including yourself. You should kind of have an idea. Like just Through POE my solid townies I get you, Breshke, shining. It was Damdred's unvote. I think I fixed it now. Okay...I have to look at shining, again. But I didn't find a reason to scum him before and I don't remember seeing anything in particular to scum him since. As long as going back through his filter doesn't show me something I missed, he probably will still be a townread for me. I do have reasons to suspect you but I think your argument about you and Damdred not being a possible scumteam could hold merit. I need to think about it. Maybe both breshke and shining are scum, and my townreads are completely off, but that just...I know I've been wrong before but that would be so off-base...I still need to look into it. I don't think geript is scum. So I guess the best I can answer you DP is I have reasons to doubt my reads right now, cause I don't know how much sense they actually make. That's why I said I don't know. I could be OMGUSing Damdred and he's actually town, but I don't think so. I need some time to actually sit down and think about it all. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote: It was Damdred's unvote. I think I fixed it now. Okay...I have to look at shining, again. But I didn't find a reason to scum him before and I don't remember seeing anything in particular to scum him since. As long as going back through his filter doesn't show me something I missed, he probably will still be a townread for me. I do have reasons to suspect you but I think your argument about you and Damdred not being a possible scumteam could hold merit. I need to think about it. Maybe both breshke and shining are scum, and my townreads are completely off, but that just...I know I've been wrong before but that would be so off-base...I still need to look into it. I don't think geript is scum. So I guess the best I can answer you DP is I have reasons to doubt my reads right now, cause I don't know how much sense they actually make. That's why I said I don't know. I could be OMGUSing Damdred and he's actually town, but I don't think so. I need some time to actually sit down and think about it all. If you are town reconsider your town read. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:25 DarthPunk wrote: I do. You know, have a case. Like are you even reading the thread. You keep doing fucky shit like that and it is incredibly off putting. I didn't see it. Let me read it. | ||
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DarthPunk
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 11:54 DarthPunk wrote: I want to lynch breshke today. The vote yesterday being so close and contested like that is far far far more likely to come from a town/scum wagon than two town wagons. If yesterday is town/town I don;t see mafia bothering to contest it. I don't see why scum!Damdred tries to shenanigan off Town!LM onto Town!breshe as scum. It doesn't make sense. I don;t care what bullshit Rso and Breshe try to sell you. Also this vote count is pretty fucking damning: On one side is confirmed town LM, Both my town reads and I. On the other side is scummy Breshe, scummy Shining, and Scummy/townie/??? Rso. along with slam lite WHO SAID HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SWITCHED WAGONS. The inertia for the lynch yesterday for no good reason. In response to increasingly townie contributions from LM is scum Driven. SCUM WANTED TO LYNCH LM and the only way they could do that and save face was to pretend to afk. Further the way he is hard buddying Rso since the lynch yesterday is fucking off. Like he hasn't buddied anyone like that in this game and now it is mylo he is pulling out all the stops. Damdred looks townie since yesterday, and Honestly I don't think geript is capable of this kind of a performance if he is scum. So if you are scum geript gg. We lose. I don't really buy all that shit with breshke's phone, he hasn't made any of the deadlines iirc and we are in the same timezone so obviously he doesn't care that much about the outcome of lynches. As lynches are the biggest tool for town that looks bad to me. I actually think breshke could be scum with Shining this game instead of Rso, POE has 2 out of those three and even though damdred says he believes Rso could scum with such a huge filter it is a difficult proposition to come to terms with honestly. I also hate that breshke is pushing so hard for a no lynch rather than trying to lynch his top scum read. (I'm not even sure who that is at the moment) ##Vote: Breshe Obviously I have to be flexible with my vote cause it's lylo townies need to consolidate but Breshe is the best lynch today. He is the most likely to flip scum. TOWNIES! Lynch breshke with me. or be called bad in post game. As for RSO it reminds me of last game when people were not scum reading mafia in Imperial because of filter size. I said basically the same thing in that game as I have been in this game and I should have learnt my lesson. IF THE ONLY REEDEMING THING ABOUT SOMEONE IS THEIR FILTER SIZE THEY COULD VERY WELL BE SCUM. ...I actually like your case. I guess the problem I have with it is I'm the reason that lynch didn't go through. I know that. I'm also not scum. So that assumes that my two townreads are scum. ##unvote Just let me think for a bit without all the yelling, please. That would help. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 26 2015 12:38 DarthPunk wrote: So basically you have no idea. And even the person you are pushing to lynch at mylo ITT you aren't sure about? Sigh. Last time I was sure I lynched a town, so it's probably better that I'm not, DP. | ||
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