New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia

On January 07 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote:


What happend to the game being hard? still havnt explained why the game would be hard.

On January 07 2015 12:20 Breshke wrote:
It was a bit less active at the start than i am used to but i have no reason to think this game will be harder than any other nor did i say it would be. Thats why im interested in why you think it will be harder?

On January 07 2015 14:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
And now I'm caught up.

Lian, why you counter Breshke with the same question he asked you, yet you never answer the question yourself?
LS, why do you constantly defend yourself?
SL- I have to admit, your coaching thing on LS is weird. Curious as to why you think he is town. And yeah, I get the whole 11/14 odds is pretty high, but that's the same odds for everyone in this game. So give me something better as to why he is town.

On January 07 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
Being fully caught up why do you direct questions to three other people yet not me who you think is scum

Also lian did answer eventually



Not sure what was gotten out of delaying the answer so long and getting me to answer first though.

Because me and Lian didn't get along well in Carol when we were both were town simple as that.

I thought that was the reason that was all.

The fact we both in this game together again and how in Carol we didn't agree on HF being scum until the medic claim by HTS which won us the game there that's all. Also you kept calling me scum all of that game too :O

I thought you scum read me all I guess my memory is failing me there. My bad but also you were very stubborn in that game on your HF read that's why I never really paid attention to you in that game.

I wasn't discrediting you I was just stating how I felt in that game that's all.

You weren't moving your vote from HF that entire game that why I called you Stubborn that's all.

Also I think the game might be hard because of some of us being in 2 games at once and for me being emotionally drained already.

why I kind of out of it this game.

On January 08 2015 05:45 batsnacks wrote:


OH ITS ON NOW

##unvote
##vote: ObiWanShinobi

ObiWanShinobi is 100% mafia I have never been more confident about any read I've ever made

Look how he complains early on about activity but doesn't do anything to fix it. Just keeps complaining. OWS has made three posts already about activity levels. First he says this will probably be a low post count game, setting himself up to do nothing and giving others the impression that it's okay not to play the game. Then he says the activity levels are making him crazy and doesn't do anything to remedy the problem. Now after I give him the chance to start something he wants to "WOT" me like this is some kind of joke.

Everyone not voting OWS right now thinks it's okay not to play the game, is hurting town, and needs to get with the program.

Vote OWS

On January 08 2015 07:37 batsnacks wrote:


You had questions about me up until this? That's not what it looks like to me

Why didn't you engage me when I said fight me? If you had "questions about me" that was your chance.

This:


and this:


DO NOT look like you had questions about me. I'm calling bullshit.

Then you say we aren't doing anything until thrawn comes back. Weren't you complaining about a lack of activity earlier? Doing nothing until thrawn comes back (what you said we should do) is not going to help the lack of thread activity.

On January 08 2015 00:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, here's another post from me. I was hoping others would be around so I could get some back and forth going, but eh.

First things first + Show Spoiler +
I really like that there are already basically two wagons going on SL and Lian. Good job possible towns, we might actually get something accomplished today!

Town
HTS- I'm really liking her day 1 reads. She seems thoughtful, and the reads are backed up by evidence in the thread.

Leaning town
Eden- Ive been in a game with him when he was mafia. The final 3lylo he was talking about I'm sure. So he is definitely on my watch list because in that game he came out super townie, and stayed super townie. But for right now, I've liked what he has contributed, and he wont be definitive town yet.

Leaning Scum
Mderg- I'm not really liking mdergs posts this game. One, I'm just not a big fan of oneliners. Two, Im curious as to his pressure on HTS for "obvious shitposts" or something like that, but then he turns to put pressure on lian over her. @Mdeg, what do you think of HTS now that she has given reads?

Breshke- what weirded me out most about breshke was his entrance to the thread. I mean I guess if you are gonna go hard, immediately call two people scum. Interesting entrance, but his tone (very challenging) is similar to the last game we played where he flipped mafia (that shot though). The only thing that would make me place him as town is if SL flipped scum tbh. I don't think they could be scum together.

Lian

SL

Oats?- more so for his questioning on what the point to my post was. Eden got the point. Or atleast answered.

Scum
None definitively at the moment.

I need to read more into Lian and SL, but here are my thoughts so far.
And oats needs to come back

On January 08 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:


i found scum...

On January 07 2015 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:

Because me and Lian didn't get along well in Carol when we were both were town simple as that.

On January 07 2015 09:45 LightningStrike wrote:

Will keep note of your thoughts for now but almost everyone here is inactive and is kind of making me worry :|

On January 08 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote:


then your bad because I found one

On January 08 2015 09:06 mderg wrote:

I'm not convinced of your case against LS at all. The weird post does not indicate scum at all. It seems more like he was frustrated with how that other game played out and still had that in his mind or something like that.
I'm actually relatively sure that LS is town because he takes everything so seriously and how uptight he feels.

On January 09 2015 09:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Lian, you've been pushing me as a scumread based on a case that someone is pushing because he feels like it rather than actually believing it.

Then you dropped it for no reason so you could follow my suggestion on a VA lynch.

Then you picked it up again despite the fact that nothing changed.

???

On January 09 2015 09:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
You can piece them together by reading my filter. For the sake of shorthand:

NB - townish
Eden - null
DrParnassus - town
Batsnacks - town
Breshke - townish
SL - townish
HTS - townish

Anybody that I haven't mentioned is either not posting enough or hasn't gotten my attention. This is probably the first time I've had the opportunity to sit down at the computer and post, so.

On January 08 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kinda tempted to vote Vayne.

I just thought it was weird that he was caring about the game and then everybody jumped on him.

I haven't even been able to look up his meta to confirm it but everyone just sort of rolled with it.

The lynch doesn't make sense for several reasons. Even the people outside the sphere of him caring/not caring have bad reasoning.

I'm not going to get a break so I doubt I'll be able to research his meta properly.

I don't think I'll be able to properly find any alternatives though. Idk.

No I said this was his scum meta.

Oats is the one who agreed with me and voted him.

Sure let me write a comprehensive case on my phone while I'm at work.

Oh wait.

On January 09 2015 10:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I do think it was my lynch because I was the one that pushed people to talk about him.

I threw his name down.

Where is the scum motivation for doing this?

On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.

On January 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.

On January 09 2015 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alternatively, who am I deflecting from and why? What makes me scum with that person?

If you're going to draw associatives between unflipped players, which are as a general rule of thumb useless, then you might want to do it right to start off.

On January 09 2015 10:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You should drop it.

Like, asap.

You're probably going to get policy'd if you keep this up and, even if you don't, nobody is going to sheep your lynches. Politics is part of the game.

On January 09 2015 10:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't see how posting in a dead thread indicates that I'm trying to blend.

On January 09 2015 11:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You should just change it right now.

Even if you think people are playing terribly, you should make them want to play or try pushing them in the right direction with energy and analysis rather than making people rage out.

What you're doing now is not going to ensure that anyone ever gets lynched and is a prime way of making you look scummy and annoying.

On January 09 2015 11:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't think you know how to play this game.

On January 10 2015 16:48 Eden1892 wrote:

How's the defending of LS/obi "overwhelming" if the thread is "in stalemate"...? Seems like a stalled out thread would be more receptive to a push on your suspects, not less.

And what's with the soft defense of Oats? You appear to use meta as a primary tool of evaluating people, yet you're disregarding what your analysis of the meta is apparently telling you. Instead you're scumreading my nulls for being unmemorable. Do you have any actual reason why they're mafia?

On January 10 2015 18:19 Eden1892 wrote:

I'm in your town pile and agree with him. Please consider

On January 12 2015 16:55 sicklucker wrote:
More on Ls is that hes not so much "bad" as he never has his own original ideas or finds scum himself. When he wins games as town he correctly sheeps people. Hes gonna be wrong sheeping people because people are wrong so him thinking your scum is not a good thing but doesint make him scum

On January 14 2015 02:13 batsnacks wrote:


Why would I ignore SL?

He claimed watcher for no reason and says he tracked two dead people.

And that was AFTER he fake claimed a role that wasn't even in the game and got called out on it.

That is un-ignorable.

On January 14 2015 07:11 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a lazy case on LS that people should criticize me for:

1. Breshke mentions and interacts with LS the least out of anyone in his filter.
   
2. LS likes to sheep when he's scum.
   
3. LS sheeped the vayne case.
   
4. SEE BELOW the progression of LS's read on oats
   

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Above are LS's posts about oats in order from earliest to most recent. LS originally town read oats because of meta, which I pointed out at the time was useless because oats plays exactly the same every game. Notice oats going from LS's "BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGG town read [sic]" to null in an instant, then LS votes him.

So LS is mafia.

On January 14 2015 07:43 batsnacks wrote:
There isn't a case on mderg I don't know why anyone is voting him. The only thing I can find is what Liam said about mderg being useless and sheeping everything eden says.

And mderg isn't really sheeping eden.

On January 14 2015 01:25 mderg wrote:
Here's a list of things that make lian scum:

- being a dick on purpose early in the game
- on day1 voting VA despite his two other scumreads also being on the wagon
- on day2 voting drp without even mentioning him beforehand
- repeatedly complaining about inactivity and lack of effort while not really doing much himself
- wanting to lynch me without giving any reasoning at all
- Breshke did defend him earlier

Maybe I missed some things but I think that's enough to call him scum.

On January 13 2015 17:48 Eden1892 wrote:
So like I said before, back on day 1 liancourt pushed LS and Obi then voted with them on Vayne. Quoting my post on the subject from n1:



liancourt never had a satisfactory reply to this, which I think is pretty damning on its own.

It's even more damning when we look at the Day 2 vote count.



Presuming for the moment that lalalipop is town, we have two town wagons at the end of d2, and liancourt is... voting for DrParnassus. Who he literally discusses once in d2 (calls DrP unmemorable). I'm serious, read his filter, that's it. He doesn't even say he voted for DrP. He said he was going to RNG vote sicklucker, and I'm not sure if that was a joke or something he intended to do but didn't, because he doesn't say anything else about his suspects that day. He certainly doesn't push DrP. He just wastes his vote on an outlier for a reason that sounds good, but instead of pushing that good reason to get a lynch he just... does nothing.

##VOTE: liancourt

On January 10 2015 08:32 mderg wrote:

I could see 2 scum between lian, HTS and oats. Has oats even posted a single read so far? I basically can't remember anything he did this game.

On January 11 2015 19:28 mderg wrote:

I would be up for a drp lynch, if HTS wasn't on the table.

On January 12 2015 06:44 mderg wrote:

I'm not 100% sure about him being scum, no, but I think he has a good chance of flipping scum and is a good lynch.

On January 12 2015 06:51 mderg wrote:
I could see a switch to lian happen, anyone else is pretty much out of question for me.

On January 14 2015 20:54 batsnacks wrote:


Because I think voting DrP is safer.

On January 15 2015 02:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Nvm work is dead lol
And my manager today is more lax on phone use

DrP's recent activity doesn't particularly impress me. He flip-flopped on me for no reason I can see; just last night he says I'm probably town because my reads conflicted with prevailing sentiment, now he says I'm mafia because ???

He hasn't done anything in his recent set of posts to make me think he's town, so he's still in my POE kill pile

On January 15 2015 07:36 Eden1892 wrote:

You didn't read what I said. You need to stop pushing this because you're definitely wrong about me and possibly wrong about mderg too. You are wrong, and you are leading town off a cliff because you are loud in your wrongness.

On January 15 2015 07:37 Eden1892 wrote:

Then you didn't look at my filter, because I've definitely talked about mderg, in direct response to our Q-and-A session a few hours ago.

Which, by the way, you never did finish.

On January 18 2015 23:53 sicklucker wrote:


I pretty much just got mad at you for not helping me two games inarow and bet you for no reason -_-

On January 19 2015 00:47 Damdred wrote:
You should lian you had the game basically solves. You just need to scream more hammer time