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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 07 2015 13:58 GMT
#211
Any reads so far, HTS?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#259
On January 08 2015 00:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, here's another post from me. I was hoping others would be around so I could get some back and forth going, but eh.

First things first + Show Spoiler +
I'm da realest

I really like that there are already basically two wagons going on SL and Lian. Good job possible towns, we might actually get something accomplished today!

Town
HTS- I'm really liking her day 1 reads. She seems thoughtful, and the reads are backed up by evidence in the thread.

Leaning town
Eden- Ive been in a game with him when he was mafia. The final 3lylo he was talking about I'm sure. So he is definitely on my watch list because in that game he came out super townie, and stayed super townie. But for right now, I've liked what he has contributed, and he wont be definitive town yet.

Leaning Scum
Mderg- I'm not really liking mdergs posts this game. One, I'm just not a big fan of oneliners. Two, Im curious as to his pressure on HTS for "obvious shitposts" or something like that, but then he turns to put pressure on lian over her. @Mdeg, what do you think of HTS now that she has given reads?

Breshke- what weirded me out most about breshke was his entrance to the thread. I mean I guess if you are gonna go hard, immediately call two people scum. Interesting entrance, but his tone (very challenging) is similar to the last game we played where he flipped mafia (that shot though). The only thing that would make me place him as town is if SL flipped scum tbh. I don't think they could be scum together.

Lian

SL

Oats?- more so for his questioning on what the point to my post was. Eden got the point. Or atleast answered.

Scum
None definitively at the moment.

I need to read more into Lian and SL, but here are my thoughts so far.
And oats needs to come back

Regarding my pressure on HTS: that was not for shitposts but for just making 2 posts during the early part of the game which had pretty much no value to them.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 07 2015 19:29 GMT
#262
that might actually happen, if he comes here.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 07 2015 22:28 GMT
#311
On January 08 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On January 07 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
Being fully caught up why do you direct questions to three other people yet not me who you think is scum

Also lian did answer eventually

On January 07 2015 12:25 liancourt wrote:
On January 07 2015 12:20 Breshke wrote:
It was a bit less active at the start than i am used to but i have no reason to think this game will be harder than any other nor did i say it would be. Thats why im interested in why you think it will be harder?


More or less what u think

And the fact that there is no clear vet to lead town this game.

More defensive players than aggresive players


Not sure what was gotten out of delaying the answer so long and getting me to answer first though.


Oh, no. I noticed his answer, and I wholeheartedly agree that him answering was a complete delay.
Also, I was gonna follow up with a question on him on why he cared what you think, and why the information on how the game will be harder is even relevant in terms of finding scum.

I'm also disappointed in the fact that I was gone for 9 hours, and we only have one page of posts since.

Now Breshke. What is your view on Lian?

Do you agree with some of the cases that have been thrown around?


Meh, most of the cases on Lian are that he is acting differently to how he normally does and i have no idea if this is true or what it means because im too lazy to read past games. I don't understand why he is purposly acting like a dick because if he is town i don't think that's the way to go about getting people to listen to you but being a dick doesn't equal mafia. I do think he is town though because even though his case is shit on LS he seems to actually want people to comment on it and that feels town motivated to me. I am intrested to see what happens when he comes back to the thread though.

So i also think bunnies is town because the questions she has been asking while may not be like scum hunting are obviously there to get conversation flowing which is obviously something this game needs so im happy to call her town for now.

I was also liking Eden because he seemed to be on the same thought process as me about sicklucker but has seemingly flipped now for reasons that i feel are really weak.

Also sicklucker could you explain how you went from scum to null on LS (I've included your posts and the only one he made in between in the spoiler tag.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 08 2015 01:41 sicklucker wrote:
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On January 08 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I town reading Oats and Lian since Oats seemed much more like himself from Student Mafia IV and Lian posts being genuine about his stuff on me. I finding that sicklucker early town read kind of questionable because I not done anything townie yet he giving me a very early town read. Unless he's basing off of meta he should have no reason to town read me this early.


I dont read you town man. Infact im scum reading you now for ignoring my qeustion


On January 08 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
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On January 07 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:41 Breshke wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:21 sicklucker wrote:
I see a big leak in his town game. I roll town its a good time to fix that and increase my chances of winning If I roll scum I dont want him to know.

Its not tmi your over thinking it. There is like probably 11/14 chance hes town. Thats really good odds

He claimed his role in everyone of his 4 or 5 games. Its a very bad thing to do im trying to lead town to victory!

So lets go to bed and get fresh heads and not graph at straws. Goodnight


You can go to bed its fine don't feel like you need to stay here and interact theres plenty of time left but i have more to say.

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
You always out your role on game one, like in literally everygame. So please keep that to a mini Lmum its not good for town

I only soft claimed on Carol on Day 1 then Day 2 I hard claimed.


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys


Here you clearly say he doesn't claim in his second game and his claim in his first was completely justified because he was getting and still got lynched. So he hasn't claimed his role in every one of his games.

To me it looks like you tried to enter the thread by looking helpful with a warning to LS about something he most likely knows already. At not one point have you tried to work out alignments except saying ls has a 11/14 chance of being town . Even when i call you out you just call me terrible, am i terrible town or terrible mafia?



Hey Ls I know you dont know this so can you verify this is new information to you? Also the one game he didnt claim day 1 he was mafia. He claimed in 4/4 games as town on day 1. So ya I have good reasons to ask him not too. Yes game 1 was not his fault but it was 4/4

The only time I didn't claimed yes was I was scum but it because we killed both power roles in the first 36 hours of the game. Game 1 it was sort for telling them it was Detective not Cop but it was because I got the role pm saying it was Detective and I was getting lynched and had to claim. Yes I claimed 4/4 I soft claimed at Carol on Day 1 but my role wouldn't matter though as kush claimed Scrooge Day 1 and made me useless even if I wasn't roleblocked -_-.


On January 08 2015 01:49 sicklucker wrote:
Ok thats a good answer by Ls. back to null. Everyone thinking I townread ls is funny. All I did was coach him to not do a mistake he just admitted to doing in EVERYONE of his town games.

I dont know wtf he is but since im town I dont want him screwing up this one too if hes town.



You have a point about liancourt. Acting like a dick is not alignment indicative and he actually put in some effort seemingly trying to solve the game or at least giving a strong read on LS (not that I agree with that read). He was pretty open about his thoughts, so I'm leaning slightly town on him for now.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#312
On January 08 2015 07:07 sicklucker wrote:
oh and Ls admitted he claimed day 1 in EVERYGAME which ddefends me and makes me obvious town to anyone with a brain

I guess I don't have a brain then.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 00:06 GMT
#326
On January 08 2015 08:41 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:42 Breshke wrote:
On January 07 2015 10:28 liancourt wrote:
This is going to be a hard game


What makes you say that?

Because me and Lian didn't get along well in Carol when we were both were town simple as that.


PPL come on this post is weird as fuck.

Thread sentiment was literally dead and was inactive as fuck and that's why I said it was going to be a hard game, bu tthen LS comes up with this bullshit post out of nowhere that has absolutely nothing to do with the current game. If you look at all the posts before this LS has been posting filler shit and nothing else regarding the game. Even going as far as saying how it was "worrying".

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 09:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 09:34 mderg wrote:
On January 07 2015 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 07 2015 09:28 mderg wrote:
I assumed and hoped you had something to talk about

What do you think about HTS?

I got nothing yet on her I need more posts from her to see her alignment. I played with her in 2 previous games when she was town. What about your thoughts on HTS?

I find it odd how she(?) made just 2 posts somewhere between our early game shitposts. These posts are also pretty much stating obvious things, so I'm slightly suspicious.

Will keep note of your thoughts for now but almost everyone here is inactive and is kind of making me worry :|


When in fact LS hasnt done jack shit up until then. Instead of pretending to "worry" scum hunting would have been better.

I havent been so sure of scum on day 1 in all my games of playing on TL.

Vote LS now or you're scum

I'm not convinced of your case against LS at all. The weird post does not indicate scum at all. It seems more like he was frustrated with how that other game played out and still had that in his mind or something like that.
I'm actually relatively sure that LS is town because he takes everything so seriously and how uptight he feels.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 00:08 GMT
#327
I'm still suspicious of HTS. Her posts so far seemed pretty forgettable and her reads look superficial and noncommittal.
I'm also wondering why she would feel the need to specifically mention batsnacks in her read post. Why only him and not anyone else?

On January 07 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 22:58 mderg wrote:
Any reads so far, HTS?


Right now, from the posts I've seen so far, I'm leaning town on Bunnies for her post evaluating the 2-3 reads she did (she's trying, no?), leaning scum on SL (previously mentioned), leaning scum on LS (his posts are a bit of fluff, plus posts that detract).

Eden, I'm leaning town, not so much because he voted SL, but his detailed post in doing so. It shows what appears to be a town-driven analysis.

Batsnacks, I will need to see more posts from him to evaluate.

Lian seemed emotional in the last game I played with him too, but his posts this time are a bit more content. He does point out flaws in LS's posts and he is reading between the lines, yes they are emotional, but Lian was emotional in Carol. For now, I'm leaning town on Lian, although I am waiting to see if someone can give me another POV on a scum meta.

mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 17:08 GMT
#457
Well, I had almost no time to play today, only skimmed through the last few pages. Will be around somewhere close to deadline, hopefully in time. I'm not really convinced of the case on VA. If batsnacks is right about his meta, I don't see anything scummy in VA. Especially giving wrong information about statistics is something I'd see town do more than scum because it is so easily proven wrong.

I'd rather lynch HTS for reasons that I've already given.

##Vote Half the Sky
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 20:40 GMT
#539
seems like nothing really interesting happened...
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 20:41 GMT
#541
On January 09 2015 05:17 Breshke wrote:
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On January 09 2015 05:06 DrParnassus wrote:
does anyone think ninjabunnies is town for any reason?


In my eyes she tried to push the thread early and shit when we were seriously lacking in activity.

I don't get this last post.

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On January 09 2015 00:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So, I have real llife, like a job.

Wish it was a desk job so I can dick around on mafia, unfortunately I'm a waitress.

So in that case my vote is going on

#Vote: Oats

Until I can get back and actually push a case.
This is who I think we should lynch today. I'm like....75% sure.

Which is not how sure I was on breshke, but it works.



She is really defensive about irl shit with almost no one pressuring her that is odd.

I don't know if the bolded sentence refers to this game or the last game in which she vig shot me correctly. If the former she should be voting me. If the latter there was no reason to bring it up and is just filler to try justify her vote.

Still don't think i would vote her today

she is always defensive about irl stuff. That says nothing about her alignment at all.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#548
On January 09 2015 05:43 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:41 mderg wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:17 Breshke wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:06 DrParnassus wrote:
does anyone think ninjabunnies is town for any reason?


In my eyes she tried to push the thread early and shit when we were seriously lacking in activity.

I don't get this last post.

On January 09 2015 00:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So, I have real llife, like a job.

Wish it was a desk job so I can dick around on mafia, unfortunately I'm a waitress.

So in that case my vote is going on

#Vote: Oats

Until I can get back and actually push a case.
This is who I think we should lynch today. I'm like....75% sure.

Which is not how sure I was on breshke, but it works.




She is really defensive about irl shit with almost no one pressuring her that is odd.

I don't know if the bolded sentence refers to this game or the last game in which she vig shot me correctly. If the former she should be voting me. If the latter there was no reason to bring it up and is just filler to try justify her vote.

Still don't think i would vote her today

she is always defensive about irl stuff. That says nothing about her alignment at all.


Okay noted.

Do you still think HTS is scum? I don't, can you explain.

I still think she's scum. Her posts look too passive for my liking. Saying things like "but I still need time to evaluate" or something like that. Her opening also felt strange, not really engaging in the early conversation at all.

This post of hers should explain what I mean
On January 09 2015 04:33 Half the Sky wrote:
OWS and DrP, this is my first time playing with him and Bats defence of him was meta. I cannot speak for the veteran votes on him, though. With three people defending him for reasons they are, I'm willing to give VA benefit of the doubt.

My thoughts:

I do not understand Bunnies' vote on Oats, but I want her to explain first.
I do not feel Oats is the D1 lynch.

Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS.

Lian...different approach...but I'm not feeling a lynch on him either.

mderg, I don't want to omgus him, but if I were to switch my name with someone else's and if I saw him say the same thing, my problem with his argument is that even for D1, the reads still show I am trying to work with what limited information I have. Saying my reads were inaccurate (i.e. Bats) is fine, though.

Eden's posts I am getting a town sense of thinking, I don't want to lynch him.

Lala has yet to post since he (she?) confirmed though. Now this is a potential modkill and if we absolutely positively have no other alternatives...

On my phone, but I'll keep my eyes open here if I can.

mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#554
On January 09 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Mderg, others have said similar things to what you have bolded. Why pick me out of the rest?

You got my attention because of your opening. I also don't think anyone else has said something like that as much as you.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:02 GMT
#555
On January 09 2015 06:00 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP: You criticised my reads, so I am saying why your argument is a poor one.

I'm not really criticizing your reads but rather how you present your reads.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#556
On January 09 2015 06:00 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:56 mderg wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:43 Breshke wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:41 mderg wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:17 Breshke wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:06 DrParnassus wrote:
does anyone think ninjabunnies is town for any reason?


In my eyes she tried to push the thread early and shit when we were seriously lacking in activity.

I don't get this last post.

On January 09 2015 00:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So, I have real llife, like a job.

Wish it was a desk job so I can dick around on mafia, unfortunately I'm a waitress.

So in that case my vote is going on

#Vote: Oats

Until I can get back and actually push a case.
This is who I think we should lynch today. I'm like....75% sure.

Which is not how sure I was on breshke, but it works.




She is really defensive about irl shit with almost no one pressuring her that is odd.

I don't know if the bolded sentence refers to this game or the last game in which she vig shot me correctly. If the former she should be voting me. If the latter there was no reason to bring it up and is just filler to try justify her vote.

Still don't think i would vote her today

she is always defensive about irl stuff. That says nothing about her alignment at all.


Okay noted.

Do you still think HTS is scum? I don't, can you explain.

I still think she's scum. Her posts look too passive for my liking. Saying things like "but I still need time to evaluate" or something like that. Her opening also felt strange, not really engaging in the early conversation at all.

This post of hers should explain what I mean
On January 09 2015 04:33 Half the Sky wrote:
OWS and DrP, this is my first time playing with him and Bats defence of him was meta. I cannot speak for the veteran votes on him, though. With three people defending him for reasons they are, I'm willing to give VA benefit of the doubt.

My thoughts:

I do not understand Bunnies' vote on Oats, but I want her to explain first.
I do not feel Oats is the D1 lynch.

Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS.

Lian...different approach...but I'm not feeling a lynch on him either.

mderg, I don't want to omgus him, but if I were to switch my name with someone else's and if I saw him say the same thing, my problem with his argument is that even for D1, the reads still show I am trying to work with what limited information I have. Saying my reads were inaccurate (i.e. Bats) is fine, though.

Eden's posts I am getting a town sense of thinking, I don't want to lynch him.

Lala has yet to post since he (she?) confirmed though. Now this is a potential modkill and if we absolutely positively have no other alternatives...

On my phone, but I'll keep my eyes open here if I can.



does hts showing up for pre-lynch mean anything?

I don't think it does.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:13 GMT
#567
On January 09 2015 06:06 Half the Sky wrote:
Mderg, I am not referring to my opening. I already responded to that saying it was a poor argument.

I am referring especially to this:

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On January 09 2015 04:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS.


Others are saying they also want to hold off on others lynches as well. That is what I mean. Why pick me?

I know what you're referring to. I started looking closer at you because of your opening and I noticed that in your read posts you have multiple people who you still want to evaluate. Maybe others have said the same a few times but I don't think anyone did that nearly as much as you. If that's wrong, it's because I'm lazy and bad but I'm pretty sure that I'm not wrong about that.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:15 GMT
#568
On January 09 2015 06:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:02 mderg wrote:
I'm not really criticizing your reads but rather how you present your reads.


So this is a tone argument I understand? One of my reads were based on a previous quote.

This is the first time I've played a game with you.
How reliable do you think your (tone?) read on me is?

I don't know you enough to get a 100% reliable tone read on you. In general your tone points toward scum, though.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:36 GMT
#577
On January 09 2015 06:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Mderg. Okay, now you are clearer, THAT I can explain.

SL, Bats, OWS, Breshke. I have played 1-2 games with each of them before.

Bats is a hard read. I have misread him in both games I've played with him.
Sicklucker posts very erratic, he has done this in both games.
Breskhe, one game played as town with him, and obs a game he was scum. Could not read him when he was scum.
OWS, played one game and badly misread him. Wasn't sure how to interpret his indifference.

Based on their posts in this game, and based on how I felt their posts were in prior games difficult to read. Not feeling different now except for SL tunnelling me and I don't understand his motives.

I still don't get why you would explicitly mention that you still need to read more of them to evaluate, that's pretty much useless information. Especially when they're null reads. Of course you still have to evaluate them, it's not like every read is set in stone after 10 pages or you can even have proper reads on everyone.
That's why those parts look like useless clutter that mainly prevents people from antagonizing.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:38 GMT
#579
On January 09 2015 06:33 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 09 2015 06:29 lalalipop wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Mderg. Okay, now you are clearer, THAT I can explain.

SL, Bats, OWS, Breshke. I have played 1-2 games with each of them before.

Bats is a hard read. I have misread him in both games I've played with him.
Sicklucker posts very erratic, he has done this in both games.
Breskhe, one game played as town with him, and obs a game he was scum. Could not read him when he was scum.
OWS, played one game and badly misread him. Wasn't sure how to interpret his indifference.


Based on their posts in this game, and based on how I felt their posts were in prior games difficult to read. Not feeling different now except for SL tunnelling me and I don't understand his motives.


basically stuff that he is saying if we take out all unnecessary meta fluff.
sicklurker posts very erratic.


Please give reads on people other than VA in the time we have left. I don't care if you vote him but just hopping on the biggest wagon right now with no other reads is suboptimal for town.




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On January 09 2015 05:04 Breshke wrote:
Im unvoting sicklucker.

I also think the HTS and VA wagons are both bad

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:06 Breshke wrote:
Stuff it, im voting VA


That makes breshke look pretty bad
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 08 2015 21:46 GMT
#590
On January 09 2015 06:43 lalalipop wrote:
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On January 09 2015 06:41 sicklucker wrote:
lalalipop since you havent read the thread please waste your vote on someone whos not getting voted out like me. Your not going to make the right decision you dont have the information so please do what I say if your town unless you have had time to read the whole thread well.


it isn't really a big deal to miss out much of d1: most d1 lynches in all sites will come down to wagon hopping. Information in d1 is used as a comparison to d2, with the changes in n1 through PR uses and lynches.

tl is superior to other sites, though. So even our d1 lynches are great
mderg
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January 08 2015 21:50 GMT
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On January 09 2015 06:49 Breshke wrote:
I also don't like mderg much. Calling out HTS on tone and filler when arguably NB has the same problem but he doesn't seem to have a problem with her.

Are you really saying that their posts are similar?
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