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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 08 2015 00:01 GMT
#581
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Day Two


Trfel the Vanilla Townie has been killed.

Welcome to Newbie Mini Mafia LX. You are Kim Bauer, the Vanilla Townie. You don't really do much, aside from getting stalked by cougars. You have no abilities, aside from your vote. You win with town.


It's time to decide the next lynch.
Day Two ends on Saturday, Jan 10 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 00:09 GMT
#582
Sure gum I voted Shining because he had 2 votes and didn't claim blue. I was 80% sure it was bad to lynch waffle cuz of claim and about 60% sure it was bad to lynch LS because of claim.

In all honesty, I hate my decision. I should have picked LS because LS had 3 votes. I would have made 4. Shining wouldn't have switched to Waffle. Maybe someone else could have switched.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 00:19 GMT
#583
On January 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 16:02 jarjarbinks wrote:
I think some people have some questions to answer for:

I will focus on the 5 who voted for Warwaffle, because you know, they like decided to kill a power role towny AFTER he claimed power role. On a side note revealing the size of my brain, I originally was 80% sure you shouldn’t kill someone who claims a power role and wait at least 1 day, but I wasn’t 100% sure. All this claiming stuff is somehow going over my head.

Rsoultin- The mastermind behind the plot! What a surprise! I feel like you literally kill all town in every game lol You have like the worst track record! There should be a new role specifically created for you, much like the vigilante except you just convince everyone to kill town every day. And your role never wins. I will get off that pointless rant and start accusing. I’m just putting you as mafia in my accusations for now, since you have killed more town than mafia has at this point. IF you were playing mafia, in the morning of the death (no I will not grab quotes, feel free to ask me why if you want some excuses. I also didn’t edit, same story), you pick a towny that you know is an easy target. Everyone hates the inactives on this thread, and warwaffle hasn’t posted much of value despite claiming to know things. There were other logical reasons? I don’t remember. Anyways, sounds like an easy enough target. Probably the desperate townies who are being harassed will cling to a logical argument. You check back later and post some more things about shining, but keep your vote on warwaffle. This is smart so are perceived as the main driver on a towny death (day 1 or no this is not the best). You mention not being around at EOD which is also smart. You previously mentioned you were going to be very close to missing EOD before, this will affirm. Maybe you can get “lucky” and change your vote if you see a better target later. You DO get to see the votes before EOD. The waffle train struck gold for you and you have a great excuse! People will treat you like silverarte when vote analyzing. You casually wait a decent amount of time, 40 ish minutes sounds perfect! You rant and rage, show as much indignation as possible. You go off on LS and celestial mostly. Celestial is a fantastic target because he wasted his vote. LS already looks suspicious and voted for waffle. Plus LS looks bad for the last game you guys played together. Did you rant on tube? You should definitely rant on tube if you didn’t, I want to. You will look tomorrow to find a dumb towny who did make a decent vote and go on them (there was a lot of us. I honestly hate my own vote and I didn’t even vote waffle), which will divert attention from you as you look for a good nightkill.

Questions for you:
1. What were you doing around 6 central time? Eating Dinner? Working? I know you work strange hours sometimes. Your phone is better than mine so unless you were working I’m not sure what you were doing.
2. Why didn’t you switch your vote to shining at 4 your time? You like diversifying the votes so you can switch later. You would risk vote wasting, but you know if you put your mind to it you could have convinced some of us to follow suit.
3. You mentioned anger at TS, Celestial, and Shining for voting waffle. No tube? Silver has a good excuse, so I can see less indignation there.
4. If you had to pick 2 people on the waffle train that were mafia, who would they be? Let’s say you have to lynch one right now. Who is that?

Ok that was long… I’ll do the other ones tomorrow, its past my bedtime and I don’t want to be sick! O crap, more excuses. Sorry guys.


Cool story bro. I've taken the liberty of highlighting the only facts in your long narrative, as everything else is paranoid conjecture. Was tempted to ignore you entirely cause you're clearly already decided on scumreading me, but for everyone else interested in your questions:

1. Work hours are 9-6pm then I drive home in San Antonio rush hour traffic. No access to net at work nor my mobile while on the job. (You know all this JarJar, so coming from you that question just looks like a smear campaign. Bad form.)
2. I do not like vote wasting. 1 other vote on Shining while the people I was trying to convince were resistant...I kept my vote on the scummiest read (to me) actually being pushed at the time.
3. Okay? And? Tube wasn't in the thread like LS and Celeste were to question. He was super tunneled. What do you expect him to answer?
4. I'm not actually convinced that mafia was on the waffle train. Since he's town mafia wouldn't have to be unless they were pushing him instead of a mafia lynch. If Shining is mafia, I already said LS looks super scummy, because his switch could have gotten Shining lynched (only one other vote necessary). And he has in the past been very concerned about lynching blues, so I would think that a blue claim would carry more weight with him.

Also, a word to he wise...there are probably not 5 scum in this game. If you are going to scumread every player on a town lynch, especially not knowing the alignments of the other trains, you'll probably run out of townreads very quickly. (Not everyone on that train "decided to vote a power role towny AFTER he claimed power role". Please keep you facts straight when making cases.)

You saw the votes right before the end? Why did you switch your vote? You bolded "you DO get to see the votes right before EOD". Why wouldn't you switch? You ranted about how bad a waffle vote was.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 00:20 GMT
#584
Trfel voted for LS, switched to shining.

any thoughts?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 00:40 GMT
#585
On January 08 2015 09:19 jarjarbinks wrote:
You DO get to see the votes before EOD.

You saw the votes right before the end? Why did you switch your vote? You bolded "you DO get to see the votes right before EOD". Why wouldn't you switch? You ranted about how bad a waffle vote was.[/QUOTE]

Kinda being a donkey here bro. Misquoting yourself now?

On January 07 2015 06:36 The_Templar wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (3): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (4): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop
The Shining (1): Half the Sky

Not Voting (2): The Shining, jarjarbink

Currently, TheWarWaffle is set to be lynched. until deadline.


The votecount WHICH I SAW BEFORE EOD JUST AS BOLDED ABOVE when I was in the thread and Trfel was saying he didn't want to lynch Shining. Your turn to answer questions.

On January 07 2015 02:14 jarjarbinks wrote:
List of Scum:
#1: Shining
#2: Tube
#3: Silver
#4: Waffle
#5: LS


Did this list of reads change prior to the end of the vote? You don't even mention LS leading up to the lynch but now you're going on about it.

On January 07 2015 08:51 jarjarbinks wrote:
I don't know what to think about warwaffle. I'm guessing he's lying about the power role.

Its enough to keep my from voting for him though.

My vote is for the shining. And I already did It in the thread. Still suspicious enough to pick him in my top three and give another option to others who also were suspicious of him (sorry about the "she's" before)


Why wait so long to cast your vote? 9 minutes before the deadline? You were in and out of the thread throughout the day. You're clever enough to vote for Shining, force him to switch to the WW vote, and come out looking rosy because you didn't vote for the blue-claimed townie.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 00:48 GMT
#586
On January 08 2015 07:31 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, going to bed for realz. Will read what anyone cares to post here in the morning.

Still want to know your train of thought, Shining. Please explain your votes.

Gumdrop, too. Please. (I did read your filter, but I want to hear why you chose to vote outside the main lynches.)

And anyone's post-flip impressions would be appreciated as well. Definitely want to hear Silver explain the progression of her reads and JarJar, time to kick in, bro. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and your later posting is better, but now that we have solid evidence I expect you to step up.



I have already explained my train of thought on ExO. Let's remember that ExO had WW as a scumread, as well. Where's he been since the flip?

My reasoning wasn't so much as WW being scum as the fact that right I after I voted Exo, Jar Jar voted me. That put me up to 3 with WW's 4. WW's drive-by softclaim was something I did NOT want to lynch for. My options would've been vote LS to tie and WW dies, anyway. Leave my wasted vote on ExO and WW dies, anyway. As Mafia, if I thought WW was dying anyway, why would I add myself to the wagon? Once Jar Jar pushed me to 3, I was afraid one of the WW or LS votes would end up on me. Yes, I'm admitting I voted to counter my wagon. In my eyes, it makes more sense for me to save who I know is town rather than a softclaim that I had no faith in. Tube's tunneling on WW and pushing me towards him right before EoD didn't help me stick to my guns on being against WW's lynch, either.

After WW flipping blue, I have to say I don't have much faith in LS being Town. I mentioned before that I wasn't a fan of the "let's all be friends, we're all town" mentality. It wasn't until the thread was given meta examples of LS's past town play that I started reading LS as null, slightly town. After the flip and deciding to re-read LS's posts, this was a little troubling to me.


Thanks for the follow-up. It is your last-minute vote on WW that had me reconsidering my scumread on you, as you can see in the final paragraph. Since theoretically there are at least 3 scum still it seems like you should be secure enough in the lynches if you're scum to not have to vote on WW yourself. The thing that makes me twitch is this post right at tick:

On January 07 2015 09:00 The Shining wrote:
After re-reading, I felt less and less certain that WW's lurking and big post was helpful to town and more certain that that post, along with the last post claiming a blue role, was there just to mislead. Changed my vote in voting thread from ExO to WW.


...It's a justification for your last minute vote that doesn't line up with your prior concern about lynching WW or your explanation above. Why would you even feel the need to justify yourself with players (JarJar) jumping onto your train last minute? This feels like you just made this up. Completely on the fence here. Can you clear this up for me?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 08 2015 00:52 GMT
#587
Day and Night one are now over. I said I wasn't done in my earlier post so here it is.

Starting with the votes:

On January 07 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Day 1 Final Vote Count

jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (2): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (5): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock, The Shining
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop, The Shining
The Shining (3): Half the Sky, Trfel, jarjarbinks

TheWarWaffle has been lynched.


Mafia have a habit of hiding their team in different spots, especially Day One. They do it on order to not make it obvious that they're banding together. One of those spots was the main wagon. Look at WW's vote list. I'm town reading Soultin, Silver and myself as town and Tube null. I'm going with LS as the Mafia on this wagon. I took a look at the last Student Mafia game and he's displaying the same lack of reads here that he did there. Also, he sheeps constantly onto whatever one person says. In Student Mafia, he did it with batsnacks and here, he's doing it with RSoultin. That, along with Soultin's pressure which I'm now deeming town and the points she puts up, makes Soultin Town in my eyes.

LS has offered very little, if anything, to us this game. He went from a big list post where basically everyone was a townread to sheeping scumreads onto myself. Then, he sheeps onto the main wagon in WarWaffle.

Also, Mafia like to throw away votes once the main lynch is secured. WW's wagon caught momentum fast. This leaves the LS wagon, which only has WW and ExO, a blue role and a guy who I'm still unsure about but might be willing to give him benefit of the doubt. Then there's ExO with the lone Gumdrop vote. And my wagon, which has a confirmed towny in Trfel, JarJar and HTS.

Celestial throwing away that vote on JarJar is really suspicious. That and the very early big post by Celestial that gave out a bunch of free town reads, mine included, a post that wasn't really warranted at the time. As has been mentioned before, Mafia likes to give out free town reads and hide in big posts. They also like to make excuses, which Celestial has done right as EoN and beginning of Day 2 started.

The last Mafia is, I think, Jar Jar. Up until now, he's given us nothing of substance minus excuses. The little content he has posted has been recent, and it's another big post that isn't saying much of anything. Then there is this:

On January 08 2015 09:20 jarjarbinks wrote:
Trfel voted for LS, switched to shining.

any thoughts?


Are you going to give us your thoughts on this yourself? Or just going to wait for the thread to validate your slow push? Mafia love leaving a little slow push that Town can run with. It's easier to blame the mislynch on town than take the blame for it themselves.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 08 2015 01:01 GMT
#588
Currently, a bit of this is association reads, as I think Celestial's vote on mafia(Jar Jar) will look good later in the game if JJ flips scum. I'm most sure, though, of LS being scum here, especially with that last post before EoN. For whatever reason, Mafia like to afk the vote.

##Vote: LightningStrike
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 08 2015 01:28 GMT
#589
On January 08 2015 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:31 The Shining wrote:
On January 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, going to bed for realz. Will read what anyone cares to post here in the morning.

Still want to know your train of thought, Shining. Please explain your votes.

Gumdrop, too. Please. (I did read your filter, but I want to hear why you chose to vote outside the main lynches.)

And anyone's post-flip impressions would be appreciated as well. Definitely want to hear Silver explain the progression of her reads and JarJar, time to kick in, bro. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and your later posting is better, but now that we have solid evidence I expect you to step up.



I have already explained my train of thought on ExO. Let's remember that ExO had WW as a scumread, as well. Where's he been since the flip?

My reasoning wasn't so much as WW being scum as the fact that right I after I voted Exo, Jar Jar voted me. That put me up to 3 with WW's 4. WW's drive-by softclaim was something I did NOT want to lynch for. My options would've been vote LS to tie and WW dies, anyway. Leave my wasted vote on ExO and WW dies, anyway. As Mafia, if I thought WW was dying anyway, why would I add myself to the wagon? Once Jar Jar pushed me to 3, I was afraid one of the WW or LS votes would end up on me. Yes, I'm admitting I voted to counter my wagon. In my eyes, it makes more sense for me to save who I know is town rather than a softclaim that I had no faith in. Tube's tunneling on WW and pushing me towards him right before EoD didn't help me stick to my guns on being against WW's lynch, either.

After WW flipping blue, I have to say I don't have much faith in LS being Town. I mentioned before that I wasn't a fan of the "let's all be friends, we're all town" mentality. It wasn't until the thread was given meta examples of LS's past town play that I started reading LS as null, slightly town. After the flip and deciding to re-read LS's posts, this was a little troubling to me.


Thanks for the follow-up. It is your last-minute vote on WW that had me reconsidering my scumread on you, as you can see in the final paragraph. Since theoretically there are at least 3 scum still it seems like you should be secure enough in the lynches if you're scum to not have to vote on WW yourself. The thing that makes me twitch is this post right at tick:

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 09:00 The Shining wrote:
After re-reading, I felt less and less certain that WW's lurking and big post was helpful to town and more certain that that post, along with the last post claiming a blue role, was there just to mislead. Changed my vote in voting thread from ExO to WW.


...It's a justification for your last minute vote that doesn't line up with your prior concern about lynching WW or your explanation above. Why would you even feel the need to justify yourself with players (JarJar) jumping onto your train last minute? This feels like you just made this up. Completely on the fence here. Can you clear this up for me?


Tube's tunneling was what I went off of. Once I compared Tube's comments to WW's posts, my faith in WW's claim being real wavered. I was weary of lynching WW but since no one wanted to give WW's soft-claim any credit, I felt maybe Tube was onto something here and WW was misleading us. If it just so happened to counter my wagon as well, even better. I was tentative to admit that it was a vote to counter my wagon, so I just went with my paranoia getting the best of me. That's why when I gave you the follow up you asked for, I said "Yes, I am admitting I voted to counter my wagon." That sentence implies that it's the main reason why I voted, with the justification I gave at EoD as the facade.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 01:41 GMT
#590
On January 08 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 09:19 jarjarbinks wrote:
You DO get to see the votes before EOD.

You saw the votes right before the end? Why did you switch your vote? You bolded "you DO get to see the votes right before EOD". Why wouldn't you switch? You ranted about how bad a waffle vote was.


Kinda being a donkey here bro. Misquoting yourself now?

On January 07 2015 06:36 The_Templar wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (3): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (4): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop
The Shining (1): Half the Sky

Not Voting (2): The Shining, jarjarbink

Currently, TheWarWaffle is set to be lynched. until deadline.


The votecount WHICH I SAW BEFORE EOD JUST AS BOLDED ABOVE when I was in the thread and Trfel was saying he didn't want to lynch Shining. Your turn to answer questions.

On January 07 2015 02:14 jarjarbinks wrote:
List of Scum:
#1: Shining
#2: Tube
#3: Silver
#4: Waffle
#5: LS


Did this list of reads change prior to the end of the vote? You don't even mention LS leading up to the lynch but now you're going on about it.

On January 07 2015 08:51 jarjarbinks wrote:
I don't know what to think about warwaffle. I'm guessing he's lying about the power role.

Its enough to keep my from voting for him though.

My vote is for the shining. And I already did It in the thread. Still suspicious enough to pick him in my top three and give another option to others who also were suspicious of him (sorry about the "she's" before)


Why wait so long to cast your vote? 9 minutes before the deadline? You were in and out of the thread throughout the day. You're clever enough to vote for Shining, force him to switch to the WW vote, and come out looking rosy because you didn't vote for the blue-claimed townie.[/QUOTE]

You responded about 2 hrs before EOD. Not just before EOD. Just before EOD would be like around 6 your time when you got off from work, which I talked about before In my original post. Phone not in the car when you got off work?

That was my list of reads before the votes. When I voted LS had 3 Votes (Shining was an LS vote). Shining had two. Waffle had four. Switching off waffle would be a good idea. I picked Shining over LS, but I regretted it because by doing that I caused Shining to switch to Waffle, hence ended much chance of switching off waffle. Honestly, LS was low on my list. Waffle claimed a power role. Am I missing something?

Good catch on me being in and out of the voting process. Snow day! I was home. Time to see me be a complete hypocrite about EOD stuff. Building a compy, which turned out to be very difficult! Tried to use my broken compy to stream youtube and get this website. Very frustrating, but I did finish the compy at about 11 ish at night. I would read something about the thread, then look for one of the random parts I threw around the kitchen that I needed. Then forget what part I needed then looked in the manual. I'd get confused, look back at the thread and repeat. at around EOD, I was upset everything was taking so long, and rather cynical about this thread. As time wore on, I switched youtube videos, and started trying to figure out why my compy (the one I was making) wouldn't turn on. I think I checked a few posts an hour before EOD thinking that was EOD and worried I hadn't voted yet. Turned out I was an hour off, so I didn't worry about it. About 45 minutes ish later I saw I was late, read less than what I should have. Confused about lack of votes. Saw there was another thread. Looked at the votes. Picked Shining for reasons I already talked about. Went back to hitting my head against the wall and trying to find random manuals. Finally got somewhere. Saw warwaffle die and angry posts. Saw you saying I needed to step it up. Ranted to myself with much more cynicism. Figured I'd try to make "scumreads" on the killers. Wrote yours. Realized it was 2. Tried to go to sleep and couldn't.

I liked my post on you! Sure there isn't much facts, but there's enough for me to see the transitions working if you were mafia. When I saw you bolded my phrase "saw the votes right before EOD" I was happy. To me that's a slip up. You saw them 2 hrs before, which I alluded to a few sentences before that post, so in my mind it is clear that my phrase there was referring to very close to EOD, like around when I voted.

I don't look rosy.


jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 01:43 GMT
#591
Also sis, I thought tube was in the thread quite often.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 01:47 GMT
#592
On January 07 2015 23:19 Silverarte wrote:
I know JarJar's questions aren't directed at me (and I'm reading them as specifically at Rsoultin right now) but I felt I should answer them, particularly with the schedule in my world seeming to be a problem-ish. So I'm going to quickly answer at least number 1 before I run out the door.

6 central time is 5pm for me, the exact time I'm getting off (if I am lucky). I have a 20 minute to hour long commute (traffic, weather, so on) and immediately come home to trying to eat dinner, settling my household down and helping with sick people (who so lovingly gave me their cold xD). I have to be at work at 8:30 am, but again with that commute. ( Generally leave at 7:30 my time for work)
---

@Ls Glad you're back and she's ok! <3 LS, what makes you so suspicious of Shining? In your mind, who is the biggest candidate to lynch right now and why? I know Shining is on your radar, but what makes Shining more important than say...Gumdrop?



I believed your missing EOD story more than my sis's because my sis's work schedule has changed often. That's unlucky about your start time, might hurt us consistently if you aren't available to check before voting time. But what can you do, gotta pay the bills.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 01:49 GMT
#593
Yeah...that was the feel I was getting.

I really don't like the lying thing. It rubs me the wrong way. People being too concerned about being "consistent" (yes Celeste, that's at you, though damn these newbie games and figuring out what is noob and what is scum) and how their actions appear to others rubs me wrong.

Meh. I'll have to think on you, Shining.

You seemed very wishy-washy at the beginning, plus all the excuses, especially with your first two posts. The analysis seemed like a place holder with no conclusion. Something to look busy without committing.

Can you please explain to me how Celestial's explanation of blue-hunting lines up with what you thought I was doing, and link the post from Silver that made you change your mind?

I don't like LS and JarJar is bugging me because his giant screamy post (apart from being directed at me, which is convenient actually since I know him best) is just way out-of-character for him. My brother isn't terribly aggressive normally, especially with such obvious bias and leading words meant to make you form your opinion the way he wants. But, eh, LS...he's hard for me to read cause he gets scumread every single game, you know? Meh.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 01:53 GMT
#594
On January 08 2015 10:49 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah...that was the feel I was getting.

I really don't like the lying thing. It rubs me the wrong way. People being too concerned about being "consistent" (yes Celeste, that's at you, though damn these newbie games and figuring out what is noob and what is scum) and how their actions appear to others rubs me wrong.

Meh. I'll have to think on you, Shining.

You seemed very wishy-washy at the beginning, plus all the excuses, especially with your first two posts. The analysis seemed like a place holder with no conclusion. Something to look busy without committing.

Can you please explain to me how Celestial's explanation of blue-hunting lines up with what you thought I was doing, and link the post from Silver that made you change your mind?

I don't like LS and JarJar is bugging me because his giant screamy post (apart from being directed at me, which is convenient actually since I know him best) is just way out-of-character for him. My brother isn't terribly aggressive normally, especially with such obvious bias and leading words meant to make you form your opinion the way he wants. But, eh, LS...he's hard for me to read cause he gets scumread every single game, you know? Meh.



EBWOP:
That was directed @Shining
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 02:04 GMT
#595
On January 08 2015 10:41 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On January 08 2015 09:19 jarjarbinks wrote:
You DO get to see the votes before EOD.

You saw the votes right before the end? Why did you switch your vote? You bolded "you DO get to see the votes right before EOD". Why wouldn't you switch? You ranted about how bad a waffle vote was.


Kinda being a donkey here bro. Misquoting yourself now?

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 06:36 The_Templar wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (3): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (4): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop
The Shining (1): Half the Sky

Not Voting (2): The Shining, jarjarbink

Currently, TheWarWaffle is set to be lynched. until deadline.


The votecount WHICH I SAW BEFORE EOD JUST AS BOLDED ABOVE when I was in the thread and Trfel was saying he didn't want to lynch Shining. Your turn to answer questions.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 02:14 jarjarbinks wrote:
List of Scum:
#1: Shining
#2: Tube
#3: Silver
#4: Waffle
#5: LS


Did this list of reads change prior to the end of the vote? You don't even mention LS leading up to the lynch but now you're going on about it.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 08:51 jarjarbinks wrote:
I don't know what to think about warwaffle. I'm guessing he's lying about the power role.

Its enough to keep my from voting for him though.

My vote is for the shining. And I already did It in the thread. Still suspicious enough to pick him in my top three and give another option to others who also were suspicious of him (sorry about the "she's" before)


Why wait so long to cast your vote? 9 minutes before the deadline? You were in and out of the thread throughout the day. You're clever enough to vote for Shining, force him to switch to the WW vote, and come out looking rosy because you didn't vote for the blue-claimed townie.


You responded about 2 hrs before EOD. Not just before EOD. Just before EOD would be like around 6 your time when you got off from work, which I talked about before In my original post. Phone not in the car when you got off work?

That was my list of reads before the votes. When I voted LS had 3 Votes (Shining was an LS vote). Shining had two. Waffle had four. Switching off waffle would be a good idea. I picked Shining over LS, but I regretted it because by doing that I caused Shining to switch to Waffle, hence ended much chance of switching off waffle. Honestly, LS was low on my list. Waffle claimed a power role. Am I missing something?

Good catch on me being in and out of the voting process. Snow day! I was home. Time to see me be a complete hypocrite about EOD stuff. Building a compy, which turned out to be very difficult! Tried to use my broken compy to stream youtube and get this website. Very frustrating, but I did finish the compy at about 11 ish at night. I would read something about the thread, then look for one of the random parts I threw around the kitchen that I needed. Then forget what part I needed then looked in the manual. I'd get confused, look back at the thread and repeat. at around EOD, I was upset everything was taking so long, and rather cynical about this thread. As time wore on, I switched youtube videos, and started trying to figure out why my compy (the one I was making) wouldn't turn on. I think I checked a few posts an hour before EOD thinking that was EOD and worried I hadn't voted yet. Turned out I was an hour off, so I didn't worry about it. About 45 minutes ish later I saw I was late, read less than what I should have. Confused about lack of votes. Saw there was another thread. Looked at the votes. Picked Shining for reasons I already talked about. Went back to hitting my head against the wall and trying to find random manuals. Finally got somewhere. Saw warwaffle die and angry posts. Saw you saying I needed to step it up. Ranted to myself with much more cynicism. Figured I'd try to make "scumreads" on the killers. Wrote yours. Realized it was 2. Tried to go to sleep and couldn't.

I liked my post on you! Sure there isn't much facts, but there's enough for me to see the transitions working if you were mafia. When I saw you bolded my phrase "saw the votes right before EOD" I was happy. To me that's a slip up. You saw them 2 hrs before, which I alluded to a few sentences before that post, so in my mind it is clear that my phrase there was referring to very close to EOD, like around when I voted.

I don't look rosy.


[/QUOTE]

...yeeeeah. Cause I'm going to go ahead and bold things to make it easy for you. Bud, I was highlighting the facts. Seeing the vote count before EOD was a fact. You had maybe 5% of that post that wasn't a story you concocted to fit you presupposition that I am scum. I can do that, too. For everyone. Clutter up the thread with BS for each and every player: why SO and SO could be scum from the mind of Rsoultin, now I'm going to write you a story. That's why it is called paranoia.

What I don't get, JarJar, is this moaning about how you should have voted LS unless your reads changed and you just didn't mention it. Shining was your top scumread at the beginning of the day. You can say you were at home all day building your computer and that's why you didn't have time to vote earlier, but that's kinda weird, don't you think? Home all day. Can't vote. Huh.

Why are you being an ass? Seriously. Of the two of us I'm more likely to be an ass than you, Lt. Chuckles. Wiseass, sure, but pure ass? Lol. Were you ever going to make your promised rage!cases (you raging makes my mind boggle) at anyone else? Or was that all a smokescreen?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 02:15 GMT
#596
Silverarte’s turn! A kill equals a scumread in my book for now, since I only have 1 set of datapoints to go on. I’m sure I’ll get there eventually but I want to talk about your behavior in the thread first. I would call it a good newbie mix. Don’t post a lot of stuff. Defend yourself when the inactive haters come knocking. Post a list thread like everyone else (including me, I liked yours better!) My worry with you was already mentioned before, and was probably garbage/BS considering it was my reads + day 1. I have already been deemed “the scummiest town” Celestial has ever seen, which in my book equals “worst player” he has ever seen. I expect you will answer my questions and move on from this post while reading up on others.

On to the Scumread, or my attempts of one. I have no stories. No long drawn out story seems believable to me. Based on your posting so far, if I had to guess what you would be like, it would be the silent mafia people generally like. You don’t get much attention, you make claims like everyone else. In the end you will say surprise! Waffle was an easy vote for you, it was logical and you knew he was town. If someone asks you that in the end and you are mafia, I’m pretty sure that is the exact answer you would give.

If you are mafia I’m worried because the only attachment you sort of have is to Rsoultin. And its definitely defendable. I wouldn’t even call her out for if you were mafia, because I would have done the same thing if I were in your shoes if I was both mafia and town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 02:17 GMT
#597
Also, because I realize that I did not answer your question in all of that:

Yes, my phone was in my car. It was off or it would be dead. I turned it on, turned my car on, and then obeyed that nasty thing called the law and didn't touch my phone while driving. Regardless, it was after six, so it wouldn't have mattered if I waited for it to come on and spent time sitting in the parking lot catching up on the thread, now would it? Do I need to give people a play-by-play of my day? Does anyone care apart from JarJar since you can't verify it anyway?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 02:19 GMT
#598
On January 08 2015 11:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 10:41 jarjarbinks wrote:
On January 08 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
On January 08 2015 09:19 jarjarbinks wrote:
You DO get to see the votes before EOD.

You saw the votes right before the end? Why did you switch your vote? You bolded "you DO get to see the votes right before EOD". Why wouldn't you switch? You ranted about how bad a waffle vote was.


Kinda being a donkey here bro. Misquoting yourself now?

On January 07 2015 06:36 The_Templar wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (3): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (4): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop
The Shining (1): Half the Sky

Not Voting (2): The Shining, jarjarbink

Currently, TheWarWaffle is set to be lynched. until deadline.


The votecount WHICH I SAW BEFORE EOD JUST AS BOLDED ABOVE when I was in the thread and Trfel was saying he didn't want to lynch Shining. Your turn to answer questions.

On January 07 2015 02:14 jarjarbinks wrote:
List of Scum:
#1: Shining
#2: Tube
#3: Silver
#4: Waffle
#5: LS


Did this list of reads change prior to the end of the vote? You don't even mention LS leading up to the lynch but now you're going on about it.

On January 07 2015 08:51 jarjarbinks wrote:
I don't know what to think about warwaffle. I'm guessing he's lying about the power role.

Its enough to keep my from voting for him though.

My vote is for the shining. And I already did It in the thread. Still suspicious enough to pick him in my top three and give another option to others who also were suspicious of him (sorry about the "she's" before)


Why wait so long to cast your vote? 9 minutes before the deadline? You were in and out of the thread throughout the day. You're clever enough to vote for Shining, force him to switch to the WW vote, and come out looking rosy because you didn't vote for the blue-claimed townie.


You responded about 2 hrs before EOD. Not just before EOD. Just before EOD would be like around 6 your time when you got off from work, which I talked about before In my original post. Phone not in the car when you got off work?

That was my list of reads before the votes. When I voted LS had 3 Votes (Shining was an LS vote). Shining had two. Waffle had four. Switching off waffle would be a good idea. I picked Shining over LS, but I regretted it because by doing that I caused Shining to switch to Waffle, hence ended much chance of switching off waffle. Honestly, LS was low on my list. Waffle claimed a power role. Am I missing something?

Good catch on me being in and out of the voting process. Snow day! I was home. Time to see me be a complete hypocrite about EOD stuff. Building a compy, which turned out to be very difficult! Tried to use my broken compy to stream youtube and get this website. Very frustrating, but I did finish the compy at about 11 ish at night. I would read something about the thread, then look for one of the random parts I threw around the kitchen that I needed. Then forget what part I needed then looked in the manual. I'd get confused, look back at the thread and repeat. at around EOD, I was upset everything was taking so long, and rather cynical about this thread. As time wore on, I switched youtube videos, and started trying to figure out why my compy (the one I was making) wouldn't turn on. I think I checked a few posts an hour before EOD thinking that was EOD and worried I hadn't voted yet. Turned out I was an hour off, so I didn't worry about it. About 45 minutes ish later I saw I was late, read less than what I should have. Confused about lack of votes. Saw there was another thread. Looked at the votes. Picked Shining for reasons I already talked about. Went back to hitting my head against the wall and trying to find random manuals. Finally got somewhere. Saw warwaffle die and angry posts. Saw you saying I needed to step it up. Ranted to myself with much more cynicism. Figured I'd try to make "scumreads" on the killers. Wrote yours. Realized it was 2. Tried to go to sleep and couldn't.

I liked my post on you! Sure there isn't much facts, but there's enough for me to see the transitions working if you were mafia. When I saw you bolded my phrase "saw the votes right before EOD" I was happy. To me that's a slip up. You saw them 2 hrs before, which I alluded to a few sentences before that post, so in my mind it is clear that my phrase there was referring to very close to EOD, like around when I voted.

I don't look rosy.




...yeeeeah. Cause I'm going to go ahead and bold things to make it easy for you. Bud, I was highlighting the facts. Seeing the vote count before EOD was a fact. You had maybe 5% of that post that wasn't a story you concocted to fit you presupposition that I am scum. I can do that, too. For everyone. Clutter up the thread with BS for each and every player: why SO and SO could be scum from the mind of Rsoultin, now I'm going to write you a story. That's why it is called paranoia.

What I don't get, JarJar, is this moaning about how you should have voted LS unless your reads changed and you just didn't mention it. Shining was your top scumread at the beginning of the day. You can say you were at home all day building your computer and that's why you didn't have time to vote earlier, but that's kinda weird, don't you think? Home all day. Can't vote. Huh.

Why are you being an ass? Seriously. Of the two of us I'm more likely to be an ass than you, Lt. Chuckles. Wiseass, sure, but pure ass? Lol. Were you ever going to make your promised rage!cases (you raging makes my mind boggle) at anyone else? Or was that all a smokescreen?
[/QUOTE]

...lol

On the LS thing. I'm not going to say the same thing 3 times. I can't find a way to rephrase. I hope my suspicions aren't all clutter BS later. I hope someone thinks of something I said. That would be nice. If this all everyone thinks of my posting on these then I can stop. Saves everyone time, and I can keep my random guesses to myself.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 08 2015 02:20 GMT
#599
On January 08 2015 11:17 rsoultin wrote:
Also, because I realize that I did not answer your question in all of that:

Yes, my phone was in my car. It was off or it would be dead. I turned it on, turned my car on, and then obeyed that nasty thing called the law and didn't touch my phone while driving. Regardless, it was after six, so it wouldn't have mattered if I waited for it to come on and spent time sitting in the parking lot catching up on the thread, now would it? Do I need to give people a play-by-play of my day? Does anyone care apart from JarJar since you can't verify it anyway?


Your right. I'll stop. You win.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 08 2015 02:23 GMT
#600
Oh, no, please continue.

You had amazing things on all five people on WW last night. If you're really town you might even have something that can be used later. Please. Dazzle us. Two down, three to go.

That was a nice ten-minute post on your new keyboard btw after asking for your rages. Lol, doesn't it suck that I know things like...your personality? How fast you type? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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