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LightningStrike
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LightningStrike
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On January 08 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote: Lol and I would have let scum sort it out and lynched you later if they didn't  Gumdrop was right. That's something town or scum could claim.Ya it could come from either side but it more likely for scum to soft claim like WW did that's all I trying to say. | ||
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rsoultin
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jarjarbinks
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On January 08 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote: Think about those cases you don't have long and hard while you do.Also, I can tell because your typing is cleaner now than when you were on your phone, bro. Really, it's not rocket science. Mine is also cleaner when I'm not on mobile. ya I have no cases. using broken compy still. you're right. Voting for LS, suspicious of Shining and Tube. Basic voting analysis of day 1 votes and night kill. No stories. I tried to have an argument. It was bad. | ||
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rsoultin
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LightningStrike
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jarjarbinks
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Waffle voted tube shifted to LS LS-2 Tube-1 Shining-1 | ||
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rsoultin
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Ah. So it's the dead people's reads (reflected in their votes) that you're sheeping, JarJar. Not sure if that's a great way to do it, either, but at least you know their reads were honest so I can see where that's coming from. (Frankly, LS, if it's between you and HTS she reads more town to me. You're making me want to lynch you more ><. But it crossed my mind that he might not be talking to me last night cause he had a role, so it's not a stretch that scum might have thought the same thing. Or he was just really townie. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to nightkill people.) | ||
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rsoultin
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rsoultin
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Some people don't like to post during night phase, which I get to some extent. Still a big difference from his earlier activity. Tube, where are you? Going to play with us? Input. Need. Input. | ||
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rsoultin
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3x I missed the first one saying WW should have claimed vet. | ||
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Half the Sky
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His first read on Shining is a meta-read, and then explains to Gumdrop that he voted Shining accordingly based on claims by WW and LS but then should have picked LS because of the votes. My problems with JarJar at face value are: 1 he doesn't really seem to discuss Shining's behaviour or any sort of his content in the current game leading up to the vote 2 the timing of his vote on Shining, which Rasputin already mentioned 3 the ranking of his scumreads, not only did he not really push Shining, at least not that I can tell from his filter, but I'm looking for any push on Tube or another scumread he felt strongly about and I didn't see any challenges on anyone else at any point in the day. Now, granted, I realise Tube wasn't anywhere near close for lynch, but my point here here is that I get the impression (rightly or wrongly) that he's laying back and just voting when it's most convenient and not based on behaviours/evidence in the current game. Meta cases are okay with adequate support, but even in this quote, he admits it's a weak case, so it's not like he's attempting to sell that point to anyone. On January 07 2015 02:02 jarjarbinks wrote: Shining- Based off 1 past game, I could see Shining’s posts on here being similar to when she was mafia last game. Really weak case though, as I’ve only played with Shining once. I could see her defending her way out of my suspicion, since it is a weak case and Shining has prodded several different people as well as defended herself in the past. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Now take that same question but substitute that with LS, again focusing on current behaviours in the game. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Can you explain what you think makes her town? When you analysed votes, you townread her. JarJar appears to scumread her (I think?) in his latest post so I'm trying to understand what criteria you (or anyone else familiar with her?) are applying for her reading her as either alignment. | ||
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jarjarbinks
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Can't find the quote to back me up on this...Shining said something I really liked, right before I voted for him ironically. I swear I'm super good at this game lolz. Then he changed his vote to Waffle and I facepalmed. I still blame myself for that. I think Shining blamed me too later. Apologies. That saying as people have said before I could see a smear campaign on Shining. I see him as an easy target, but not as stupid easy as say me, based on how things played out. As for the "meta read". His defense against it was pure solid. I liked it. It'll be interesting to see if he's just really good at convincing me of things or if it was wrong of me to think he was scum in the first place. Despite that, trfel voted for him and he's 100% dead by mafia. So if there's multiple lynchtrains and shining is one of them, I could be persuaded to vote for him if the other guys haven't shown bad tendencies. The top three for me as of now are LS, tube, then shining. | ||
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rsoultin
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What are your impressions on the voting? I read your earlier post and can see you're not sure about LS or JarJar right now. Something else came to mind as I was thinking. Why are Celestial and ExO mad at WW for softclaiming when they weren't voting for him in the first place? It's an idle thought but seems out of place from where I'm sitting now. I get the ones who were scumreading/lynching him being upset. | ||
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jarjarbinks
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I honestly sympathized with LS on day 1. It seemed like people were being overaggressive with him. I wanted to focus my suspicions elsewhere since it seemed he was definitely some peoples #1 scummer. So what if he couldn't overanalyze other people and have a decent original scumread? Neither did I, gum, waffle, or silver. What did the scumreads give us day 1? A lot of anger and a dead veteran. Granted you can go back later and look at day 1 posts, but still. That being said, both trfel and waffle voted TS at some point and they are both dead. Were their reasons purely because they were suspicious of TS? nope. but in my mind its better than what else we have right now. | ||
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rsoultin
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jarjarbinks
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Silver's voting for waffle happened, she literally voted early and didn't see the results till after work. I work too. That's unfortunate. I hope it doesn't happen often! or she is just luckier in her early votes. Either or works! Playing wise, she hasn't done anything to stand out in my opinion. Probably a good thing for her, especially day 1. It'll probably keep her in the game longer. Keeping my eye on her though, it will be interesting to see her plays later. | ||
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