Newbie Mini Mafia LX - Page 28

On January 07 2015 11:54 Trfel wrote:
Yeah, I'm sorry about the lynch. My bad.

We were pretty unlucky that I finished my vote-switch post and posted it three minutes after rsoultin left. And I really lack experience, so I didn't try to get people to switch after the roleclaim. Sorry.

On January 07 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Rsoultin I up for a Shining lynch tomorrow and hopefully I can deal with my IRL drama with my Mom having to go to the ER for overnight and me staying home because someone needed to take care of the house. I guess this what happens when I emotionally drained.

On January 07 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:


Dude :/ I'm sorry. That's terrible. Take care of yourself (and your Mom) okay? <3

On January 07 2015 11:46 rsoultin wrote:


You're right. I did. At the time LS and WW were the only lynch wagons, with just HTS voting Shining, and I have only now become suspicious of LS. I did make an effort to convince people on Shining from my mobile during my lunch break, but Trfel and JarJar didn't vote until afterwards. Trfel himself was initially very reluctant to vote Shining and was the main one I was trying to convince, because I knew he had the best chance of pushing the lynch if I couldn't.

It probably would have been better if I had just switched my vote. The reads on demand right before the lynch didn't impress me that much, but had I gotten any support, I definitely would have switched. You clearly made the effort to look through my filter. Can you honestly say that it reads any differently?

On January 07 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
To be frank, Celestial, your idea that being aggressive, asking questions and scumreading people is scum behavior is very odd, even for a new player.

There are scum in this game.

They did play a role in this lynch somehow. Actively or passively it's hard to say with only WW flipped.

How do you expect to figure out and lynch scum without questioning people? Just sit there and it'll magically come to you as no one talks?

I would expect more people to be trying to figure this out and questioning odd behavior, rather than complaining about people "blaming" others. I did not go hard after you. I all but said I'm inclined to chalk it up to this being a newbie game. LS I went after because he honestly should know better...and he has in the past been very leery about lynching blue roles. This does not fit with his past behavior, or my expectations of him in his fourth game here.

Bah...I'll look at Shining again in the morning, because I still have strong suspicions about him. His last second vote switch to WW after the guy had claimed is icky and looks more like trying to save his own skin in case anyone changed their vote. (Although town can want to save their own skin, too, I do realize that.) But I want to bring new eyes to this. Bedtime for me.

On January 07 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:


Mrt, it's okay Trfel. For all we know all three could have been town which is why I'm not screaming to lynch LS right this second ><. And honestly if I'd waited just those three minutes I could have switched my vote which definitely would have helped.

Mind getting your case-building juju raring? If you're town this game, your play can be amazing, and you see things I don't/differently.

I know there's not a ton to work with right now.

On January 07 2015 12:32 -Celestial- wrote:


Posting from bed on phone so please excuse spelling:

Except...you know...its not exactly convincing when you're staying on WW like that. So no, I can't say I read it that way at all. Frankly because of your lack of switch meant my read of your case was "this guy looks really suspicious but I still think WW is the best lynch". You apparently couldn't even convince yourself enough to switch to Shining. If you'd actually switched I might have switched because I'd have taken your case more seriously.

You want to lynch Shining tomorrow? Alright, we can look at doing that, just lay out your case in summary. I was never a big fan of Shining's posts here anyway, feels scummy; and a lot of your comments earlier were actually decent and on-point and reasonably convincing, especially looking back now. The problem for me is that they came across as very insincere at the time because you flat out were not backing them up with action by changing your vote.

On January 07 2015 12:35 -Celestial- wrote:


...I'm not even saying that. Where am I saying that? Or giving the impression I'm saying that?

I'm actually genuinely confused here. I have NO idea where you're getting that one from aside from my very, very early post about your very first entry to the game.

On January 07 2015 11:37 -Celestial- wrote:
He should have been given the benefit of the doubt on a three line post saying he's blue? Off the back of a bunch of suspicious posts? I'm really not sure what I can say here to be honest except that's just not how I felt when I saw it.

Yes, I threw my vote away. I own up to that and I'm sorry to WW for my part, small as it was, in the mislynch. I can't say I'm particularly happy about it but there it is and I'm really not sure what the you want from me here. I've already explained my reasoning, such as it is. I don't have much more I can really say.


And with all due respect you're the person who started the train on WW in the first place. So if we're asking questions here about voting motivations then please explain these posts of yours:



You actively stated you preferred the Shining lynch over the WW one and your vote on WW was initially just pure pressure. But still remained on WW saying that you wouldn't be around at EoD to change it. Why? Why not go for the Shining vote that you were so convinced of? There were people who actually voted for WW around between his claim and the EoD that didn't change their votes. What of them?

In essence why are you trying to throw blame around so much on a lynch you actively participated in, despite claiming that someone else was more desirable as a lynch for you? I can't say I'm proud of myself for letting a blue get killed, but you deliberately voted for the poor guy, despite explicitly saying someone else was a better target.

On January 07 2015 16:02 jarjarbinks wrote:
I think some people have some questions to answer for:

I will focus on the 5 who voted for Warwaffle, because you know, they like decided to kill a power role towny AFTER he claimed power role. On a side note revealing the size of my brain, I originally was 80% sure you shouldn’t kill someone who claims a power role and wait at least 1 day, but I wasn’t 100% sure. All this claiming stuff is somehow going over my head.

Rsoultin- The mastermind behind the plot! What a surprise! I feel like you literally kill all town in every game lol You have like the worst track record! There should be a new role specifically created for you, much like the vigilante except you just convince everyone to kill town every day. And your role never wins. I will get off that pointless rant and start accusing. I’m just putting you as mafia in my accusations for now, since you have killed more town than mafia has at this point. IF you were playing mafia, in the morning of the death (no I will not grab quotes, feel free to ask me why if you want some excuses. I also didn’t edit, same story), you pick a towny that you know is an easy target. Everyone hates the inactives on this thread, and warwaffle hasn’t posted much of value despite claiming to know things. There were other logical reasons? I don’t remember. Anyways, sounds like an easy enough target. Probably the desperate townies who are being harassed will cling to a logical argument. You check back later and post some more things about shining, but keep your vote on warwaffle. This is smart so are perceived as the main driver on a towny death (day 1 or no this is not the best). You mention not being around at EOD which is also smart. You previously mentioned you were going to be very close to missing EOD before, this will affirm. Maybe you can get “lucky” and change your vote if you see a better target later. You DO get to see the votes before EOD. The waffle train struck gold for you and you have a great excuse! People will treat you like silverarte when vote analyzing. You casually wait a decent amount of time, 40 ish minutes sounds perfect! You rant and rage, show as much indignation as possible. You go off on LS and celestial mostly. Celestial is a fantastic target because he wasted his vote. LS already looks suspicious and voted for waffle. Plus LS looks bad for the last game you guys played together. Did you rant on tube? You should definitely rant on tube if you didn’t, I want to. You will look tomorrow to find a dumb towny who did make a decent vote and go on them (there was a lot of us. I honestly hate my own vote and I didn’t even vote waffle), which will divert attention from you as you look for a good nightkill.

Questions for you:
1. What were you doing around 6 central time? Eating Dinner? Working? I know you work strange hours sometimes. Your phone is better than mine so unless you were working I’m not sure what you were doing.
2. Why didn’t you switch your vote to shining at 4 your time? You like diversifying the votes so you can switch later. You would risk vote wasting, but you know if you put your mind to it you could have convinced some of us to follow suit.
3. You mentioned anger at TS, Celestial, and Shining for voting waffle. No tube? Silver has a good excuse, so I can see less indignation there.
4. If you had to pick 2 people on the waffle train that were mafia, who would they be? Let’s say you have to lynch one right now. Who is that?

Ok that was long… I’ll do the other ones tomorrow, its past my bedtime and I don’t want to be sick! O crap, more excuses. Sorry guys.

On January 07 2015 22:56 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and my Mom was already home and it turns out Diabetes is a bitch sometimes so at least she is going to be fine just need her to take the meds the ER gave her. I not as drained anymore and I ready to lynch Shining at the start of the day.