EPTOn January 07 2015 06:42 Tubesock wrote:
You missed my vote on WarWaffle
You missed my vote on WarWaffle
Fixed. In the future, please make sure you have unvoted before voting.
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On January 07 2015 05:35 Trfel wrote: Voting LightningStrike for now. Not impressed with his play at all. I'll say more in a bit once I finish reading everything. Trfel, could you please elaborate on your read on LS? Both you and I have played two games with him, each as scum and town, and I'd like to see the reasoning for your conclusion. His reads have never been that well developed but if you can point the specific triggers (particularly as I make comparisons between this game and Carol) I would find that helpful. I am also assuming part of your vote is based on meta. | ||
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Half the Sky
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
- posts no definitive opinion on alignments between hts and myself, burying it in a waffly second multi para pist where its difficult to see what he actually thinks - only develops hard reads on ppl pushing him (note exo stated some of what he was doing was scummy, as well as hts) - continually says he will post a lot (weekend/morning) and doesn't - only returns briefly to the thread to defend against weak point and not the case made on him - conveniently uses celestials explanation for why questions are bad not gonna lie and say these things couldnt be town, but they add up as more suspicioua to me than others play | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
The bandwagon on TheWarWaffle feels like a policy lynch. The read on Half the Sky is extremely weak, but others have done the same thing. Still, I like the fact that he is analyzing wording and constructing an argument, even if I disagree with said argument. He only really has two posts in the game. The second one is a big list post. I disagree with several of the reads, but nothing jumps out at me a ton. Therefore, there isn't much to work with at all on this case. I don't really see why this makes TheWarWaffle scum, except for the lack of posting. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 07 2015 06:54 Trfel wrote: I apologize to everyone (well okay, just the townies), I don't have time to read everyone and choose the ideal lynch target based on only my own analysis. My fault. I will do better next time. The bandwagon on TheWarWaffle feels like a policy lynch. The read on Half the Sky is extremely weak, but others have done the same thing. Still, I like the fact that he is analyzing wording and constructing an argument, even if I disagree with said argument. He only really has two posts in the game. The second one is a big list post. I disagree with several of the reads, but nothing jumps out at me a ton. Therefore, there isn't much to work with at all on this case. I don't really see why this makes TheWarWaffle scum, except for the lack of posting. So, you read my case? He's OMGUSing anyone who scums him His top town are the threads top scum He isn't consistent at all in his reasoning for his reads. He will scum and towns people for the same reasons. We've asked him questions and he bailed again... I'm rereading his 5ish posts and I'm having trouble finding town in them. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On January 07 2015 06:54 Trfel wrote: I apologize to everyone (well okay, just the townies), I don't have time to read everyone and choose the ideal lynch target based on only my own analysis. My fault. I will do better next time. The bandwagon on TheWarWaffle feels like a policy lynch. The read on Half the Sky is extremely weak, but others have done the same thing. Still, I like the fact that he is analyzing wording and constructing an argument, even if I disagree with said argument. I'm not sure I agree that it's a policy lynch. Go read his big read post. None of it makes any sense whatsoever. Its blatantly wrong about a lot of players thus far. Read it and then come back and say it's still just a policy lynch. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 07 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote: meh...gonna have to leave my vote on ww with no feedback... I'll vote Shining or Jarjar tomorrow. If people do stupid shit and shenanny off WW I will only go to Shining or JarJar. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
So I suppose that I prefer a lynch on The Shining over the other two, since The Shining has been reasonably inactive, despite constantly saying he will play more. I like some of the points rsoultin brought up (primarily the constant references to posting more soon... I get it the first time, or the second time, but now it seems like stalling to try and avoid getting lynched... kind of mad that I didn't notice that for myself). The other reason to vote The Shining is to sheep Half the Sky and rsoultin. From my experience, both are very good players, and they think that The Shining is mafia. They have also kept up with the thread better than I have. I realize that the timing of this vote switch seems really bad. I am still suspicious of LightningStrike, and am perfectly fine to explain why I voted for him in the first place. The primary explanation is that I wanted somewhere to place my vote, in case something happened and I didn't end up moving it by the deadline (I know that I am town, so I will take a ~25% chance of lynching scum over a 100% chance of a town!Trfel being modkilled, and a vote is easy to move). The reason I voted for LightningStrike is because he asked a lot of generic questions ("Hey you, what are your reads, with explanations please"). I don't remember him doing much questioning in the past, but I could be wrong. Still, asking primarily generic questions makes it seem even more like he is trying to appear useful while really doing nothing. In addition, he likes to use pretty fast meta reads, and didn't provide reads on any of the people he has played with before for quite some time. I feel that it was longer than I am used to. Anyway, those are my thoughts at the moment. I'm switching votes to The Shining. Meanwhile, I will start looking into other lynch options (open to suggestions), and will be waiting for feedback and pushes. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On January 07 2015 07:06 Trfel wrote: I guess I don't like lynching TheWarWaffle, LightningStrike, or The Shining. Yay. Not super convinced that any of them are scum. So I suppose that I prefer a lynch on The Shining over the other two, since The Shining has been reasonably inactive, despite constantly saying he will play more. I like some of the points rsoultin brought up (primarily the constant references to posting more soon... I get it the first time, or the second time, but now it seems like stalling to try and avoid getting lynched... kind of mad that I didn't notice that for myself). The other reason to vote The Shining is to sheep Half the Sky and rsoultin. From my experience, both are very good players, and they think that The Shining is mafia. They have also kept up with the thread better than I have. I realize that the timing of this vote switch seems really bad. I am still suspicious of LightningStrike, and am perfectly fine to explain why I voted for him in the first place. The primary explanation is that I wanted somewhere to place my vote, in case something happened and I didn't end up moving it by the deadline (I know that I am town, so I will take a ~25% chance of lynching scum over a 100% chance of a town!Trfel being modkilled, and a vote is easy to move). The reason I voted for LightningStrike is because he asked a lot of generic questions ("Hey you, what are your reads, with explanations please"). I don't remember him doing much questioning in the past, but I could be wrong. Still, asking primarily generic questions makes it seem even more like he is trying to appear useful while really doing nothing. In addition, he likes to use pretty fast meta reads, and didn't provide reads on any of the people he has played with before for quite some time. I feel that it was longer than I am used to. Anyway, those are my thoughts at the moment. I'm switching votes to The Shining. Meanwhile, I will start looking into other lynch options (open to suggestions), and will be waiting for feedback and pushes. I asked a lot of generic questions on Carol and on Metal Mini so it just your memory failing you. In my large post I did give my meta reads on some of the players I played with but I forgot you weren't going to be here for most of Day 1 but I got you town for now. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On January 07 2015 07:06 Trfel wrote: + Show Spoiler + I guess I don't like lynching TheWarWaffle, LightningStrike, or The Shining. Yay. Not super convinced that any of them are scum. So I suppose that I prefer a lynch on The Shining over the other two, since The Shining has been reasonably inactive, despite constantly saying he will play more. I like some of the points rsoultin brought up (primarily the constant references to posting more soon... I get it the first time, or the second time, but now it seems like stalling to try and avoid getting lynched... kind of mad that I didn't notice that for myself). The other reason to vote The Shining is to sheep Half the Sky and rsoultin. From my experience, both are very good players, and they think that The Shining is mafia. They have also kept up with the thread better than I have. I realize that the timing of this vote switch seems really bad. I am still suspicious of LightningStrike, and am perfectly fine to explain why I voted for him in the first place. The primary explanation is that I wanted somewhere to place my vote, in case something happened and I didn't end up moving it by the deadline (I know that I am town, so I will take a ~25% chance of lynching scum over a 100% chance of a town!Trfel being modkilled, and a vote is easy to move). The reason I voted for LightningStrike is because he asked a lot of generic questions ("Hey you, what are your reads, with explanations please"). I don't remember him doing much questioning in the past, but I could be wrong. Still, asking primarily generic questions makes it seem even more like he is trying to appear useful while really doing nothing. In addition, he likes to use pretty fast meta reads, and didn't provide reads on any of the people he has played with before for quite some time. I feel that it was longer than I am used to. Anyway, those are my thoughts at the moment. I'm switching votes to The Shining. Meanwhile, I will start looking into other lynch options (open to suggestions), and will be waiting for feedback and pushes. I'll ask you again. Did you read my case? again the tldr version: He's OMGUSing anyone who scums him His top town are the threads top scum He isn't consistent at all in his reasoning for his reads. He will scum and towns people for the same reasons. We've asked him questions and he bailed again... I'm rereading his 5ish posts and I'm having trouble finding town in them. I don't mind you disagreeing but at least let me know you've seen it. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 07 2015 07:10 Tubesock wrote: I'll ask you again. Did you read my case? again the tldr version: I don't mind you disagreeing but at least let me know you've seen it. I have in fact read it, and it is what I'm working on at the moment. I haven't concluded anything yet. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On January 07 2015 07:06 Trfel wrote: I guess I don't like lynching TheWarWaffle, LightningStrike, or The Shining. Yay. Not super convinced that any of them are scum. So I suppose that I prefer a lynch on The Shining over the other two, since The Shining has been reasonably inactive, despite constantly saying he will play more. I like some of the points rsoultin brought up (primarily the constant references to posting more soon... I get it the first time, or the second time, but now it seems like stalling to try and avoid getting lynched... kind of mad that I didn't notice that for myself). The other reason to vote The Shining is to sheep Half the Sky and rsoultin. From my experience, both are very good players, and they think that The Shining is mafia. They have also kept up with the thread better than I have. I realize that the timing of this vote switch seems really bad. I am still suspicious of LightningStrike, and am perfectly fine to explain why I voted for him in the first place. The primary explanation is that I wanted somewhere to place my vote, in case something happened and I didn't end up moving it by the deadline (I know that I am town, so I will take a ~25% chance of lynching scum over a 100% chance of a town!Trfel being modkilled, and a vote is easy to move). The reason I voted for LightningStrike is because he asked a lot of generic questions ("Hey you, what are your reads, with explanations please"). I don't remember him doing much questioning in the past, but I could be wrong. Still, asking primarily generic questions makes it seem even more like he is trying to appear useful while really doing nothing. In addition, he likes to use pretty fast meta reads, and didn't provide reads on any of the people he has played with before for quite some time. I feel that it was longer than I am used to. Anyway, those are my thoughts at the moment. I'm switching votes to The Shining. Meanwhile, I will start looking into other lynch options (open to suggestions), and will be waiting for feedback and pushes. On January 07 2015 06:59 ExO_ wrote: I'm not sure I agree that it's a policy lynch. Go read his big read post. None of it makes any sense whatsoever. Its blatantly wrong about a lot of players thus far. Read it and then come back and say it's still just a policy lynch. You didn't answer my question about why you think WarWaffle is a policy lynch, and not based on his posts. | ||
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TheWarWaffle
Canada115 Posts
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