Imperial Mafia

On January 08 2015 19:14 Palmar wrote:
Whatever.

I cba with this tonight. See you tomorrow.

On January 08 2015 19:25 Palmar wrote:
marv your main mission is to clear me so people don't do dumb shit.

Could you do that for me please?

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.

On January 02 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote:
Alright, let's talk business. I've read up to page 30 so anything that happens after that I have no idea about.

Artanis is best town. I feel fairly confident in this read. I don't think anyone is calling him mafia so I don't think I need to cite any examples really.

KelsierSC is probably town too. I particularly thought his sarcastic post towards.... idontremember, the one marv quoted, was okay. Less confident but still, no reason to even consider lynching today. Also, he articulated some of the problems I had with geript's posting until that point.

DrH is very likely town. I highly agree with Robik that he seems to genuinely believe he's onto something with this chyz read. He's constantly pushing it, almost forcing it down people's throat. If chyz is town (which I very well think might tbe the case) DrH is not the mafia on his wagon.

Robik I'm not entirely sure about, but the simple fact that he pointed out things I was already thinking about DrH makes him more likely to be town than mafia. I don't think we need to lynch him today.

Batsnacks is sort of meh whatever, but at least he is quite unapologetic about his lazy posting. Maybe a very, very slight lean town read.

TheChyz is the hardest read in this game. Everything he says sounds like he's mafia, which probably makes him town. He posts a bit like nb or something. Lacks confidence and his reads are all very meh. I think the main reason I don't want to lynch him is the thing Artanis pointed out where he started his defense by talking about the only player defending him. Like this guy could very well be mafia but starsenses are telling me I should not lynch him today. If he's mafia, I'm simply gonna look for the other mafia instead.

@Chyz: if you're town, step up bro.

Koshi is another hard read. So I actually don't think Chyz needs to be lynched, and if I had to answer now I'd guess Chyz is town. However, Koshi had an unnaturally strong read on Chyz as town. Like I felt like he should have had no business thinking Chyz is town at that point. But then Koshi kept talking to Artanis (I think it was artanis...) and I started feeling less bad about him as he posted more. I'd say I lean slightly town on him, but I don't feel very confident on it.

Lazermonkey: I initially thought he was okay, but I see now multiple people want to call him mafia in the last pages before 30. He's probably the guy I need to re-read out of the people I have opinions on. He pushed Chyz which I feel is ok, after all, everything Chyz says sounds like mafia talking. But maybe he's just sort of piling on. He's null and maybe even leaning mafia. I don't know.

Damdred is up and down. I actually agreed with the people that said mafia damdred wouldn't open with a joke mafia claim. But he's also been fairly shit in the thread, and the fact he suspected DrH over Ritoky there in that post was kind of odd. He's probably a slightly leaning mafia guy.

Eden1892 started off weird (with the stuff with DrH), but he kept posting and kept raising his status. I think he's more likely to be town than mafia. I can't exactly remember when the flip happened (I initially thought he was kinda mafia) but I'm okay with him for now.

Ritoky is a complete mystery to me. He tried to bury DrH with completely asinine reasoning. Like he's gotta be a complete moron to think DrH's policies would apply to a joke somewhere in the game. However, this is so dumb I'm not even sure it has to come from mafia, it might just be ritoky jumping some random shit he saw. I have no idea what his alignment is.

Marv, because of the two reads above I don't actually feel all that good about marv. I do expect to mislynch him some game in the close future, because I am almost 100% certain marv wants to play a town game where he posts little, just so he can do so in the future and so playing mafia isn't as painful to him. However I now disagree with the things I said about Eden, or well, I think his subsequent posts made him look better, so marv agreeing with me was kinda off, and I also don't think we can read too much into the ritoky thing. Also, if marv actually had found something, I'd think he wanted to push it. Re-reading lazermonkey and seeing if marv saying he could lynch him is justifiable will help with reading marv. For now he's sort of maybe slightly kinda leaning scum.

JAT. Parroting other players. Does it as both alignments, no idea what he is. Don't particularly care for now.

Geript. We lynch this man today. He is the one in the aftermath of DrH's case on Chyz that came off as mafia. First of all he seemed to immediately make a "mental note" that Chyz was newb town. There was, at the time, nothing in the thread that suggested Chyz was town. There were reasons to wait and see, but to say he's town is way over the top. Also, in the following discussion, I feel like unlike Koshi, geript did basically nothing to actually advance his read or influence anyone to follow him. It's the difference of passively "being right" (in case chyz is town) and aggressively defending him (like koshi did). Add in what I said earlier about how his posting was fairly clean and he was appealing to veterans and I actually want to lynch him.

sicklucker. I had a thought on him but I don't remember. Probably mafia because his posts are so boring I don't even remember them. But I'll reread later and decide. Could very well be town with little time.

Superbia, GB, Vivax and RoL haven't basically posted at all, so here is a wisdom nugget. Out of the lurker list (those 4), you should shoot RoL. Just trust me on this one. If we have a vigilante, shoot the fuck out of RoL.

##Vote Geript

On January 08 2015 19:42 KelsierSC wrote:


im not cop hunting

I want LM, specifically, to tell me who the cop is

On January 08 2015 19:46 Vivax wrote:


its ok bro just read my filter and sheep me
Drh wasnt being scumread anyway except when he started going afk so you wont even have to defend yourself this game

On January 08 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:


You have to read in context.

I wanted to lynch geript. I got a wagon going on geript, when I went to sleep geript was the leading candidate for a lynch. However when I woke up town had voteswitched on to batsnacks (and not Vivax as I had suggested) and killed him. This led me to being extremely frustrated as I didn't even know people were considering batsnacks as a lynch target and I had read batsnacks as town.

On January 08 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
fuck i'm terrified that he's the cop but i can't see how he can be the cop

On January 08 2015 20:03 Palmar wrote:


They're not inconclusive garbage. In fact, me hedging half my calls with wording like "very slight leaning town read" is probably the biggest tell that I am town this game.

However I also wouldn't expect just about anyone to understand that.

It's basically me trying not to be wrong, or if I am wrong have something to point to "hey look, I told you I just called him town for this small thing, not my fault he didn't end up being town". If I was mafia I'd be far more confident in my reads, or so I think, at least.

And the list post was basically me trying to do useful stuff. I decided to punch in what I was thinking at that point in the game.

and I already explained why I called DrH town.