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On December 31 2014 14:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry geript was to busy in scum qt to beat you to first this time.
I've been having mafia withdrawls
I sorta gave Damdred a bit of a pass for this at the time, but now I'm less sure, mostly because of this follow up.
On December 31 2014 14:19 Damdred wrote:
Also not really claiming scum just bad humor baby
It really does not need explaining that he wasn't claiming scum. No one actually claims scum and is serious about it, that's not how the game works. However the fact he felt the need to clarify that AND is apologetic about it (bad humor baby) feels really wrong in hindsight.
Scum points.
Eden even noticed it at the time...
On December 31 2014 14:27 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 14:24 Eden1892 wrote:On December 31 2014 14:19 Damdred wrote:
Also not really claiming scum just bad humor baby why did you post this? cause of mine and geripts history where he takes mee a bit to serious at points. Like he told me to post seals one time and I did and he went a bit nuts was a bit funny. I think he was scum that game but I think he would do the same as town.
On January 01 2015 01:53 Damdred wrote:
Good morning my friends, i'll be haphazardly here all day. Sadly I have to work tonight and its one of the busiest days of the year haha. So lets get to it
The ritoky and Dr. H fight wasn't as pointless as people think. It left a very distinct taste in my mouth about both of their alignments.
In carol (Ritokys most recent mafia game) I caught ritoky for being super passive, with no follow up and no real push early on to speak of and only when confronted with this information he would passively give a wall of text to explain away what he was doing. You can look at Season of a witch I believe and see the same thing in his scum game. So i'm leaning more town on ritoky due to the fact that he said someone was acting scummy and went after said person instead of dropping it, he had really good follow up at this point even if the avenue he went down was really a different approach than what I probably would of done.
Dr H reaction to some of the things left me feeling a bit weird. Firstly he seems to have a deep suspicion of Ritoky after the conversation is starting to calm down a bit and even says that Ritoky looks bad. But you never really get a sense about what his read is, their really is no follow up besides DrH saying that he is just going to ignore Ritoky trying to do things from this point forward, which he ends up trying to explain himself a few posts later but then drops it. From all of the interaction with Ritoky (good or bad) he should of been able to formulate some form of opinion on Ritokys alignment. And yet right after the fight has affectingly ended he calls Geript scum but never pushes it at all and then moves on to chyz. Im going to put him in the leaning scum category here.
Geript just lacks something right now, hes not quite as posty as he normally would be and is really tight lipped about his thoughts. Also his post about being ableto read Palmar koshi etc really ruffled me a bit and reminded me a lot about when he was scum in russia. Hes in the leaning scum category presently
This is the first big post that started me, and probably other people questioning Damdred's alignment. In general everyone not called Damdred came to the conclusion that DrH was the one that looked good after that fight, and ritoky was either mafia or just really dumb.
I'm pretty sure marv mentioned this one too.
oh, JAT noticed the same:
On January 01 2015 01:58 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Damdred. Marv and you just gave meta reads on ritoky that are the exact opposite of each other for the same game. Do I really need to read his filter there now? Sadly you might need to, I think Marvs view on that game is slightly twisted due to him being a cohost and having perfect information and seeing things differently than what someone playing would see. I caught him to no follow up in that game then he shot me </3
Again, because I'm super impatient, I'm gonna summarize a bit:
I get a feeling, as I'm reading along that Damdred asks a lot of questions and makes a lot of semi-worthless posts. I'll throw in some examples:
On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote:On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 01 2015 02:12 IAmRobik wrote:On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Same same.
Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously.
Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis Do you actually believe you'll get me lynched unless people vote me out of spite? Let me point you to something..... IAmRobik 0/14 = 0.0000% It will be 0/15 after this game. I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space. We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such. On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote:On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Same same.
Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously.
Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that? Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him. Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff
On January 01 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote:
@Dr H. You seem to be scum reading geript currently is that correct? Also yu seem to be forming scum and town reads based off on support or disagreement with your case. Don't you think thats a bit dangerous since townies can disagree with points?
On January 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
@GB, what do you think about it do you feel like he was blue fishing making a joke?
On January 02 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote:On January 02 2015 11:35 batsnacks wrote:
Besides what are we going to do tomorrow if thechyz is still alive and DrH takes it upon himself to tunnel him for another 15 pages. check him SL what about the framer and millers? Do you think mafia really reacts the way that he did here?
You get the idea.
I wanna read more before I actually call him mafia, but I'm probably gonna ignore the later half of his filter for now and read few other people (ritoky, superbia... maybe laz0r?).
Like at some point through gb's filter I just went "nah, dude is probably not mafia". I do totally not get that feeling from Damdred's filter.
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I'm probably not explaining it very well, but Damdred, unlike GB with his blatant willingness to lynch just about anyone, seems to be going out of his way not to ruffle any feathers.
Even his push on Lazor day 1 was very much downtuned. "I am of the mindset to kill lazer" or something that instead of the classic "LET'S FUCKING MURDER HIM".
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On January 05 2015 07:47 Palmar wrote:
The mafia team is actually
geript
damdred
glowingbear
marv
robik
So just lynch down this list.
This guy is a moron btw, ignore him.
There's probably 2 mafia in this list, not 5.
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Robik, what do you think of Damdred?
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Just to point it out, even if you think I'm mafia, you can easily discuss my reads with me (this goes for SL, GB and anyone else who is around too).
Worst case scenario, I'm mafia and you're doing some dumb wifom and I'm SOOOOO good that I don't leave any hints as to which people I'm reading are actually scumbuddies.
Better case scenario, I'm mafia and you'll notice me revealing my team
Best case scenario, I'm town and we get some actual discussion going with a new perspective (my re-reading people is at the moment a fresh perspective into the thread).
And tbh, if any of you are mafia, you need to do this anyway, because refusing to talk and just lynching me or someone else is actually awful and people will notice.
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Also, because I actually know for a fact that damdred is mafia now. Him trying to kill Lazer on day 1 makes lazer look much better.
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On January 08 2015 06:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
And yey for Palmar thinking Damdred is scum! Because he is. I'm like 101% positive to killing Damdred if we can get enough people on the wagon.
First step is you voting for him.
There is going to be resistance to this lynch, because 5 of the 13 players alive don't want to kill Damdred.
So, if your role PM is not the mafia one, you should probably vote Damdred.
Also, if your role PM is the mafia one, consider voting damdred to blend into the town justice train.
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On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints.
I'm assuming this is a hard claim.
If we have a cop, there should be a counterclaim immediately. If there is none, ritoky is confirmed.
(I actually kinda expect a counterclaim, that'd be fun...)
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On January 08 2015 06:09 KelsierSC wrote:
why did you check DrH?
You're mafia 
I'm so sad I didn't know before!
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if there is a counterclaim we just lynch between the two. 50% shot at worst at mafia.
If there are two counterclaims I'm jumping off a cliff.
And yes, it's vitally important the following people vote for Damdred:
sicklucker
GlowingBear
Vivax
Lazermonkey
DoctorHelvetica
ritoky
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On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote:Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it. I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnackssicklucker (1): ritokyVivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched.
until deadline.I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritokySuperbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker. GG ##vote: ritokysorry for not listening marv #teammarbic
We need that counterclaim.
Till then, he is confirmed. But yes, I sort of do expect a counterclaim.
Disclaimer: I am no role. Lynch me if I ever claim one.
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I'm quite satisfied with the way things have advanced.
a) we found mafia. all townies need to vote damdred.
b) we have a cop claim, shitty checks, but also quite possibly a fake claim.
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On January 08 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay lets not kill ritoky today then. If he isn't cop and someone counterclaim, we can kill him np. Untill then...
GOGO damdred.
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##Vote: Damdred that's the laziest bullshit iv'e ever heard. I just proved that he's not cop lol. No need to even counterclaim hahahaha
there are 8 townies alive.
25% chance mafia shoots the cop tonight. Claiming today is probably the right play in any case.
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wait no, mafia is down to 1kp now?
Still it's basically lylo. Unless "real" cop has 2 checks that are completely worthless (on dead people) he should CC.
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On January 08 2015 06:18 IAmRobik wrote:I'm literally about to claim cop just to take a bullet and get this dude lynched. It's so fucking obvious. I'm cop with a n1 red on ritoky and a n2 red on ritoky...also + Show Spoiler +
Your spoiler is somewhat possible.
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On January 08 2015 06:18 Vivax wrote:
Why did Damred not simply pile up on my wagon and try to stir the fire D2.
He had basically a golden opportunity when the day alone started with like 7 votes on me. Did he expect me to die anyway and wanted cred for the flip?
Also have a hard time finding the tone differences between the two games Palmar. I think in mission mini or world cup I caught him simply cause before a lynch he claimed to have a scumread on somebody and then he didn't attempt to lynch or something similar. Or maybe it was a townread he didn't defend against a scumread.
Wait what?
Because scum is less likely to do impulsive. Literally anyone with a brain knows that wagon is going to get disputed. That doesn't absolve him at all.
Also no. There is such a massive tone difference that if you cannot see it you either didn't read, or chose to ignore it.
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On January 08 2015 06:23 sicklucker wrote:The thing is we dont have much mislynches. and hes in the middle for most people. You might be right but hes not the lynch today
He's right in the middle for everyone because he has done nothing even vaguely memorable.
Like there is probably not a single person that has townread him for a good reason ever in this game at all.
Why are people coming out and trying to shut down this lynch? It's a perfectly good lynch.
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On January 08 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:On January 08 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote:Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it. I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnackssicklucker (1): ritokyVivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched.
until deadline.I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritokySuperbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker. GG ##vote: ritokysorry for not listening marv #teammarbic We need that counterclaim. Till then, he is confirmed. But yes, I sort of do expect a counterclaim. Disclaimer: I am no role. Lynch me if I ever claim one. What?!?!? Absoluetly not REAL COP DO NOT FUCKING COUNTER CLAIM. THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS FAKE CLAIM OF ALL FUCKING TIME. DUDE DOESN'T EVEN COLOR IN HIS FUCKING CHECK. LOLOLOL. HE ALSO DOES 0 ANALYSIS ON WHETHER THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY FRAMED. Ok, Robik is scum. He didn't even read the very recent post where ritoky answeres to the same accusation I made.
No, and this post + defending damdred really swings you back into mafia territory for me.
Robik's reaction is completely justifiable. The cop's job is not to interpret his own reads when breadcrumbing. Like without the claim there is 0% chance anyone would have understood what ritoky's checks are. (at leas the sicklucker one).
His job is to give us the checks and let US interpret them.
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On January 08 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Kelsier is the cop.
There it is.
Now please, give us your checks.
On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro
Hopefully not....
Also I want to point out that this is complete bullshit:
On January 08 2015 06:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote:
wait ritoky you made your list post in the night phase so that is why you didn't have SL coloured in because you didn't have your check results back? correct? no it was during day phase. i didn't color him because my personal read GREATLY conflicts with my check
Because if he is so sure sl is mafia that he's going to ignore his own green check, why check him anyway?
list of people not cop:
sl
marv
palmar
robik
vivax
ksc
laz0r
gb
I still think we should get a cc, not many people left anyway.
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