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Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:19 GMT

#5008

##Vote marvellosity

100% mafia because of things

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:19 GMT

#5010

I feel so like rayn right now.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:19 GMT

#5012

And I mean playingwise, not vodkawise.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:25 GMT

#5015

Did SL claim his check or did he unclaim or what's going on with that?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:29 GMT

#5022

marv if you're town, why do you think you're alive?

Like I know the same answer for myself, because I've been hilariously bad throughout this game. However it's totally within my meta to be bad occasionally. Not sure about yours.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:47 GMT

#5026

On January 06 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote:

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stupid question.

i'm sure you can figure out last night's NKs for yourself.

why are you even asking me this? there's no answer to be given, whether i'm town or mafia.

Is there an obvious reason VE was killed?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:48 GMT

#5027

Tbh, looking at ritoky's post, I could 100% lynch superbia because the guy doing his own thing is almost always mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:53 GMT

#5029

On January 06 2015 19:51 marvellosity wrote:

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i'm guessing because he was medic darling.

Did we know that?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:53 GMT

#5030

Like did he claim?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 06 2015 10:53 GMT

#5031

If he did I need to know, so I can call him bad postgame.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 19:45 GMT

#5612

If one of you guys is town, that's real sad.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 19:47 GMT

#5614

On January 08 2015 04:46 IAmRobik wrote:

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stop it. your contribution this game is a single post and nothing else. get outta here

Who cares? I'm still not mafia for it.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 19:48 GMT

#5616

On January 08 2015 04:48 IAmRobik wrote:

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you're mafia for not participating, not trying, and not solving the game.

Game is 300 pages and I have not enough fucks to read it.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 19:50 GMT

#5618

On January 08 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:

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this very much contradicts your d1 play of "i've read every post"...why did you give up?

I gave up around page 30... did you not notice that?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 19:58 GMT

#5626

Like I was wrong on geript. I'm partly mad at myself being wrong because I read him again and there were definitely signs that he was town that I ignored. I'm also partly mad at geript for being completely shit when about to be lynched. Like I had more respect for him as a player than to think he'd go down without giving us something to work with.

IMO it's the responsibility of people who are being targeted for a lynch to step up and actually do things. Because it reveals the reasons people are on their wagons, and can often help filter townies from mafia on town wagons.

So after I got him lynched I seriously lost most of my motivation for the game. I feel like I have no dots to connect and that I'm lynching blindly into a bunch of people that could possibly be mafia. Hell even my two townreads from day 1, artanis and drh, now feel like they could very well be mafia.

The lynch today is probably either gb or ritoky (please don't lynch sicklucker, there's just less chance he does something like he did as mafia. Like I don't think he's gutsy enough to do the whole claiming shenanigans as mafia). Both of them could be mafia, and I'm sure on neither. I don't even know which one to go after.

If marv is mafia, which I highly suspect, based on that one post he made in the night, then that doesn't even say much, because with both these targets, marv has soft pushed them and then not done anything with it (ritoky on day 1 and gb on day 2). JAT was about the only player this game I sort of enjoyed interacting with, but that's probably more on me than anyone else. Well I guess I like Vivax too.

If Vivax is mafia I'll just applaud the effort. I've liked a bunch of stuff he has posted.

I've also ignored laz0r because of the sicklucker thing on day 2 and I just haven't had the cares to catch up on him. I probably should.

Someone in this game got really mad at something at some point that I thought was really strange. It might have been superbia, but idk. Maybe we should lynch him? What happened to people wanting to lynch superbia?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 20:00 GMT

#5627

On January 08 2015 04:51 IAmRobik wrote:

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why? too hard to be scum

Whatever dude, I cba arguing with you if I'm mafia or not.

I'm gonna be mad though if I get lynched when I have no votes on me as I go to sleep. Because if nothing else I want to be around to defend myself to make it interesting.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 20:04 GMT

#5630

On January 08 2015 05:01 IAmRobik wrote:
why is ritoky scum?

I have no idea if he is.

I think these people are likely scum:

ritoky
superbia
you
marv
gb
damdred
kelsier
drh
artanis
chezinu

and I feel less confident about

vivax
laz0r

so yeah. I have no idea.

Then again, I thought there were more people alive. This doesn't seem like an insurmountable mountain of filters. Maybe I'll read some.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 20:08 GMT

#5633

On January 08 2015 05:07 IAmRobik wrote:
you're making a very compelling case for why i should lynch you today plammmmar

Yes I know, because you are either bad or mafia.

Like if you actually know how I play at all, what I'm doing now should be confirming me as town to you.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 20:08 GMT

#5634

On January 08 2015 05:07 IAmRobik wrote:
you're around now. you're not asleep. defend yourself. Prove to me that you'er town so that i push on someone else. Because right now you're right in the heart of your scum range

No cba.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

January 07 2015 20:27 GMT

#5654

On January 01 2015 02:07 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!
I'm town

I'm also on the beach so I'm not reading the thread yet.

First page = geript and damdy trolling mafai.

Brb

Tone read. He wrote "O hai!" which sort of feels like one of these "Look how casual and chill I am, totally not mafia" (think what I said about marv's "bitch" last game.

Some scum points for that.

On January 02 2015 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:

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On December 31 2014 15:44 geript wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:35 Eden1892 wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.

On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy.

what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non?

Seems like you take everything literally, we're gonna have problems if you waste your time with shit like this.

just checking, it seemed like a joke but i didn't want to supply that answer in case it weren't~

On December 31 2014 15:32 geript wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote:
I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it.

@Eden Explain.

sure, i'm not sure what you meant by "shut down this line" in the previous part of the post btw so if you want a reply to that please clarify for my addled brain

as for why i read it townie, like i said, it seemed like an effort to get discussion somewhere besides early-game banter, which imo wasn't going anywhere. i followed up on the post because even if the object-level discussion ends up being pretty pointless, i can get some possibly useful meta-level reads from it - and hey, maybe it is going somewhere and i miss it, y'know?

By shut it down, I mean shut down any further discussion on useless policy. Nobody needs to find policy to find discussion.
The problem with your "townread" is that your reasons for finding him town are complete bullshit. That post is a throwaway post that I could recite to newbies to "get discussion going" as either alignment and potentially useful dependent on how it's driven and moved (even moreso to scum imo not that it matters). There actually were things to be talked about in the thread already (my townread on Damdred, the ??? on sicklucker who IIRC also made a passing townread on Damdred, Robik not posting anything while making a few posts, etc.). It's odd that you comment that his post was stiff and awkwardly timed, two bad reasons that people's posts are often called scummy for and then settle on a bad reason to call him town for it. As for meta reads, what type of meta reads do you expect will lead to any sort of meaningful read off of policy discussion?

Like, THIS post is very townie. It correctly reads Eden and his reasoning seems very fluid. It also keeps discussion going on, and he keeps the push on Eden. I find this very townie.

is the bolded TMI?

He was defending geript at the point but was completely unsuccessful in stopping the wagon on him. Also the reasons he thinks this is townie are quite fluffy. "keeps discussion going" is hardly a thing.

Some more scum points

On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.

The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer.

I gave him town points for this at the time, and probably still should. Then again, marv is unlikely to dispute this as town, because it's essentially correct AND has very little chance to actually be pushed through.

Don't know if town, or calculated risk, or scumbuddies (another form of calculated risk).

Slight town points.

GB seems to have changed his mind a lot during day 1:

On January 01 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've started reading the game a bit before New Years Eve and I must say I don't like DrH opening, geripts call on damdred and I have a slight townread on Eden.

On January 02 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
I've read until page eighteen yet, and I don't like:
Eden
Sicklucker
Ritoky

Ritoky being more of a null. Just saw a post or him on page 16 that was horrible.

Complete 180 on Eden. In the wrong direction in my opinion (I started out thinking Eden was mafia for some interaction, with DrH I think? The one marv agreed was weird, but he kinda grew on me). I also think he had some back and forth with his vote on geript. But I can't remember what it exactly was.

On January 03 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I actually want to lynch half of the players list

Town points for this. Calling everyone mafia is usually rather townie, because mafia tends to want to make friends rather than enemies, and calling everyone mafia is a good way to make enemies.

***

Actually I'm just stopping here.

I read his case on me, and it is essentially correct. It just doesn't mean I was mafia (he was 100% correct that I wrote that post because I wanted to contribute despite being somewhat behind, I just wanted to do it to help, not to look like I was helping. Like I wanted to throw some ideas out there). Like I'm literally gonna give him a townread for writing a wrong case on me.

He has a ton of post that look sort of town actually, so despite most of the posts I wrote above I'm just gonna assume GB is town.

Here's a few examples of posts I saw while skimming his filter that oculd be from town.

On January 08 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Give me
ONE REASON
For why I'm mafia.
ONE REASON.

On January 08 2015 03:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Stop this stupidity

Also I think I got from his filter that he wanted to kill sicklucker for the claim. I think that's actually a fairly town move because mafia would most likely not want to push an un-ccd cop even if that cop is being a bit of a dick with it.

Idk, too much of GB's filter feels sort of unforced, although there are some bad spots in there too. I'm not 100% certain on it, but I think it's enough to give him a pass. He changes his mind a lot, calls a lot of people mafia, seems not worried about his own look at all, doesn't try to make friends etc etc.

Imma not lynch GB.

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