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On January 11 2015 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i don't think mafia thought that superbia was saveable one way or another tbh. I think they probably just wanted to out the cop.
GB what are you getting at with your last post there? You mean Super would hammer ritoky if ritoky wasn't framer? Yes. Or if ritoky was town. Like, marv, Robik would get shot at night. This makes ritoky auto-scumread by people. With Superbia lunching ritoky, people would still have to discuss if he is scum today
I'm like 95% sure ritoky would have been lynched today even if Robik wasn't shot today.
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On January 11 2015 06:40 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:On January 11 2015 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i don't think mafia thought that superbia was saveable one way or another tbh. I think they probably just wanted to out the cop.
GB what are you getting at with your last post there? You mean Super would hammer ritoky if ritoky wasn't framer? Yes. Or if ritoky was town. Like, marv, Robik would get shot at night. This makes ritoky auto-scumread by people. With Superbia lunching ritoky, people would still have to discuss if he is scum today I'm like 95% sure ritoky would have been lynched today even if Robik wasn't shot today.
You don't understand
Superbia had a motive to lynch even mafia!ritoky because it would be more beneficial to the team today. It would be harder to prove that Siperbia is scum.
It leaves just one option: ritoky is the framer
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On January 11 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 06:40 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 11 2015 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:On January 11 2015 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i don't think mafia thought that superbia was saveable one way or another tbh. I think they probably just wanted to out the cop.
GB what are you getting at with your last post there? You mean Super would hammer ritoky if ritoky wasn't framer? Yes. Or if ritoky was town. Like, marv, Robik would get shot at night. This makes ritoky auto-scumread by people. With Superbia lunching ritoky, people would still have to discuss if he is scum today I'm like 95% sure ritoky would have been lynched today even if Robik wasn't shot today. You don't understand Superbia had a motive to lynch even mafia!ritoky because it would be more beneficial to the team today. It would be harder to prove that Siperbia is scum. It leaves just one option: ritoky is the framer
I disagree but okay.
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Yes makes sense to want to keep the framer alive then but shoot the cop.
Pointless discussion.
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Yeeeehes let's just go by filter size this game.
LM, GB, Palmar are the other scum, they have the smallest filters. Chezinu doesn't count.
Easy.
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On January 11 2015 06:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm not scum though.
I'm an unicorn
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On January 11 2015 06:57 Vivax wrote:I'm an unicorn
Can't argue with that!
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On January 11 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Yes makes sense to want to keep the framer alive then but shoot the cop.
Pointless discussion.
They were not sure who the cop was
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On January 11 2015 07:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Yes makes sense to want to keep the framer alive then but shoot the cop.
Pointless discussion. They were not sure who the cop was
That's what you believe, back it up with some quotes or i'm calling TMI.
For all I know ritoky only pushed Robik, and they shot Robik, leaving ritoky to die, so I really have no idea where you get this opinion. Show me or I'm calling TMI or lying on you.
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I thought Kel was the cop honestly with how he went against SL claiming cop and him switching his read on me around so crazily after N2. I thought Rob was going to turn up VT. Either way I would of voted rit out over rob at that point.
GB do you think that theory is a bit more game specific, I know the framer is really valuable when a cops still alive but isn't it a bit different because it was on HF in carol and hes really important to keep around?
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Honestly if Palmar, LM and GB. If you guys are scum, you are in a super bad spot, just concede. Was a fun game, was a long game. But I don't see what mislynches you could push at this point. I'm not lynching Damdred. I'm only still sort of suspicious of marv and Artanis, and suspicious of SL but his activity is really massive and if you folks are scum one of you just said to lynch him. What other options do you have left? CHezinu? Lol, GL trying to push him as mislynch when there's nothing you could use from his filter. Maybe Kelsier, yeah if you push Kelsier and he's not mafia you might have a chance.
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You could try to push me too but then get ready for a long war of attrition you probably won't win.
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On January 11 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote:
I thought Kel was the cop honestly with how he went against SL claiming cop and him switching his read on me around so crazily after N2. I thought Rob was going to turn up VT. Either way I would of voted rit out over rob at that point.
GB do you think that theory is a bit more game specific, I know the framer is really valuable when a cops still alive but isn't it a bit different because it was on HF in carol and hes really important to keep around?
Yeah I thought Kels was cop too after that SL claim.
He could be mafia after all since mafia killed JAT and VE after that night and not Kelsier even though he looked like cop for trying to pick apart SL's claim so hard.
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Vivax, just food for thought: Do you think I would've reevaluated my read on both you and Damdred if I was scum? I was kinda meh on you and now I'm quite certain you are town, and Damdred was my top scum read and I now see him as town as well. This would be, like you are saying, narrowing down my lynch options far too much.
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If you think a team of me, Superbia, Ritoky, FUCKING PALMAR AND FUCKING LM YOU'RE NUTS
YOU THINK I'D TRY TO PUSH MY SCUMPARTNER AFTER HE FUCKING HAMMERED A MAFIA?
LIKE WHAT
WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU GUYS USING INSTEAD OF ALCOHOL????
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Hm wait.
There is another theory
The theory is that they thought Robik wasn't really the cop and killing him would make ritoky look good
MEGALOL
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On January 11 2015 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vivax, just food for thought: Do you think I would've reevaluated my read on both you and Damdred if I was scum? I was kinda meh on you and now I'm quite certain you are town, and Damdred was my top scum read and I now see him as town as well. This would be, like you are saying, narrowing down my lynch options far too much.
Honestly I figured you looked townie on the last few pages. Then you brought up the filter size argument and I was like "fuck it if they all have a boner for filter size I'll just have it too".
If you are town, then I'd much rather have you figuring out in the thread who is scum. You already mentioned Palmar, a good guess, but try to reach further than that. You could do some legwork on artanis and Kelsier as they haven't really been discussed much as scum altogether. Keep in mind that D2 scum's willingness to bus super must have been very high.
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On January 11 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Hm wait.
There is another theory
The theory is that they thought Robik wasn't really the cop and killing him would make ritoky look good
MEGALOL
And all these theories are helping you find scum exactly how?
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