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On January 16 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote: IDK what I missed GB.
And I feel like besides comparing vivax I've only done small things even viv was small to me.
Sorry, I didn't understand this.
Can you please give us the remaining scumteam?
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On January 16 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote: GB and Dam. I've played badly this game, the first two days. It was NYE and afterwards I blindly sheeped DrH. D2 the NK was made to incriminate me and I gneuinely belived geript was scum until EoD when Jat posted reasons to believe geript was town, but there wasn't enough traction for us to switch to super. For me, cause I made the mistake of not scumreading him and instead scumread Robik. IIRC the only people in thread at the time were me, Damdred, Kelsier, and Robik who didn't do anything cause of his mafia stream.
But you have to trust into me being town to win this game. I'm putting so much effort into solving this. And that said, I'm currently at page 21 of D1 finding more evidence for why Kelser is scum and who else.
I was absent for two cycles because I was at the Caribbean. That's why I'm having such a bad time figuring things out. Specially because I don't usually stay alive for this long.
Anyway, I think things said against you are very strong, and I also think you're playing in a different way that I'm used to see you playing. Your thoughts here are confusing and when I saw you playing as town, you were very straight forward. There is a plus: Master Koshi read you as scum and he knows you well. I'm very uneasy.
BUT I don't think scum would be here to solve the game like you're doing.
I'm assuming you're town because we are having the same perspective in the game right now. I'm also assuming Artanis is town because he ninja'ed the same thing I was thinking about.
I'm risking losing this game with these assumptions, but that is the best I can get. After all, mafia is a game of assumptions.
But I think you can be wrong on KSC.
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Vivax Artanis GB
KSC SL Damdred
Marv LM
Am I forgetting someone?
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On January 16 2015 07:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:On January 16 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote: GB and Dam. I've played badly this game, the first two days. It was NYE and afterwards I blindly sheeped DrH. D2 the NK was made to incriminate me and I gneuinely belived geript was scum until EoD when Jat posted reasons to believe geript was town, but there wasn't enough traction for us to switch to super. For me, cause I made the mistake of not scumreading him and instead scumread Robik. IIRC the only people in thread at the time were me, Damdred, Kelsier, and Robik who didn't do anything cause of his mafia stream.
But you have to trust into me being town to win this game. I'm putting so much effort into solving this. And that said, I'm currently at page 21 of D1 finding more evidence for why Kelser is scum and who else. I was absent for two cycles because I was at the Caribbean. That's why I'm having such a bad time figuring things out. Specially because I don't usually stay alive for this long. Anyway, I think things said against you are very strong, and I also think you're playing in a different way that I'm used to see you playing. Your thoughts here are confusing and when I saw you playing as town, you were very straight forward. There is a plus: Master Koshi read you as scum and he knows you well. I'm very uneasy. BUT I don't think scum would be here to solve the game like you're doing. I'm assuming you're town because we are having the same perspective in the game right now. I'm also assuming Artanis is town because he ninja'ed the same thing I was thinking about. I'm risking losing this game with these assumptions, but that is the best I can get. After all, mafia is a game of assumptions. But I think you can be wrong on KSC. Just read my big post on the last page. Kelsier ignores the points brought up against ritoky and instead asks the guy who's pushing him why he thinks DRH is town. It doesn't fit into a townie perspective.
I tend to ignore things when I'm tunneled, this isn't damning. I need stronger arguments. This could be use as secondary argument, only.
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On January 16 2015 07:58 KelsierSC wrote: Did I ignore the points? I don't see me saying that. I asked sl that question because it looked like he wanted to stop pressure and sort of traffic cop.
Gb mafia need a ml here and they win so activity is not alignment indicative. Viv is desperately trying to find reasons to call me scum, he is not being objective at all. I have formulated my case on Viv. You can make up your mind.
When he is decided about a lynch, he has no motivation to keep searching for the third element.
If a wagon is townie, all mafia need to do is to lurk until the ML occurs.
If a wagon is mafia, mafia needs to change wagon OR be bold enough to bus and get towncred.
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HAHAHA
Remaining scum, KSC. Right now. Tell us.
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On January 16 2015 08:31 KelsierSC wrote: I.answered Marv already.
Artanis didnt die in the night which made me.suspicous.
He did vote palmar .
Hr thought your case on me.was.good.
He said the first person to.blink.on lm was scum but you immediately blink today and then he votes me.
I town read Marv,dam and sl.
Well, me, Artanis and Vivax are having the same scumteam.
If you believe mafia is desperately after a ML, you can't put totally opposite people on the same team.
If I am mafia, LM can't be mafia. If LM is mafia, Vivax can't be mafia. So on and so forth.
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On January 16 2015 08:37 KelsierSC wrote: Vivax and lm are mafia together.
See how.viv isn't voting lm
Neither am I. I'm lynching marv first.
We're scum for that because...?
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You don't understand, KSC. I have a small theory where LM is town but I need more time to develop that.
What I can't imagine is a world where marv is town. Because the only reason people can bring on him is filter length.
The only reason.
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You have to decide, KSC.
Who is mafia? Me or Artanis?
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On January 16 2015 08:40 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh and you will call me.scum for a bad reason. People need to go and read my case on Viv because all hr is doing is.combing my filter and trying to.twist everything I do as scum.
Seriously.
"you ask sl a question d1 you are mafia"
Read my case on him and comment please.
Interact with me. You're ignoring undeniable facts that I'm bringing to the table.
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On January 16 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote: So palmar asked me why Marv is town yesterday and I gave my reasons.
He voted.on lm yesterday and lm is mafia, then he is being attacked by Viv who is also mafia. Makes him town in my eyes
Do you understand this is poor reasoning? You're evaluating marv's townplay just for a votecount.
If you see marv coming on and on against Palmar, voting Lazermonkey makes no sense.
Explain this to me.
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On January 16 2015 08:50 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 16 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote: So palmar asked me why Marv is town yesterday and I gave my reasons.
He voted.on lm yesterday and lm is mafia, then he is being attacked by Viv who is also mafia. Makes him town in my eyes Do you understand this is poor reasoning? You're evaluating marv's townplay just for a votecount. If you see marv coming on and on against Palmar, voting Lazermonkey makes no sense. Explain this to me. I have the reasons I told palmar.and if my two.scum reads are pushing Marv and going for.the win then of course Marv is.town
You have 30 pages of filter. You could simply restate your other reasons for townreading marv
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I'm sorry KSC, I'm not convinced.
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On January 16 2015 09:14 Vivax wrote: GB can we form an alliance
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KSC, could you please link me your most recent town game?
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On January 16 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 09:20 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2015 09:17 KelsierSC wrote: No I'm not familiar with his meta. I don't really care about the "meta" of people I haven't played with.
Well he has 90 % scum winrate and you townread him off of one post. Convenient and lazy reason when he's you're scumbuddy. Well I have 4 good reasons. - his votes - he has town reads from confirmed town - lm and you are voting him. - he made a smart town orientated post.
- gonna take a look at his votes later but his votes are odd considering the guys marv's scumreads. - easy to have town reads on confirmed townies when you have perfect information - 5 people are voting him and there is only 3 scum left. There are at least 2 townies voting marv - smart town orientated post, solely one, is easy to make.
So, weak reasons to give marv a 100% town read.
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On January 16 2015 09:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 09:24 GlowingBear wrote: KSC, could you please link me your most recent town game? No I'm on a phone and its hard to navigate that. You can look at my play this game and decide.
Just tell me the name of the game
I've already looked guilty mini mafia (and I'm on a phone, so...)
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On January 16 2015 09:29 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 09:26 GlowingBear wrote:On January 16 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:On January 16 2015 09:20 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2015 09:17 KelsierSC wrote: No I'm not familiar with his meta. I don't really care about the "meta" of people I haven't played with.
Well he has 90 % scum winrate and you townread him off of one post. Convenient and lazy reason when he's you're scumbuddy. Well I have 4 good reasons. - his votes - he has town reads from confirmed town - lm and you are voting him. - he made a smart town orientated post. - gonna take a look at his votes later but his votes are odd considering the guys marv's scumreads. - easy to have town reads on confirmed townies when you have perfect information - 5 people are voting him and there is only 3 scum left. There are at least 2 townies voting marv - smart town orientated post, solely one, is easy to make. So, weak reasons to give marv a 100% town read. My two scum reads are voting him pretty good reason to think he's town. You misunderstand me. The confirmed towns, townread Marv. Like 4 confirms towns scumread viv
Oh ok.
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On January 16 2015 09:34 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 09:28 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2015 09:26 KelsierSC wrote:On January 16 2015 09:25 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2015 09:20 KelsierSC wrote: Viv you townread lm now? No, he's an interchangeable spot however as I still have doubts on the third slot, Damdred, to be specific. You and marv sit in the first and second there tightly. But your main point about me being mafia is I bussed lm I have no main point. I have a fuckton of points, you slipping that GB is town, you not considering I'm town when I made LS slip while I was questioning him. Your read there should have evolved from "Oh wow Vivax just made LM slip" instead you kept posting that me and LM are scum. Implying a scum made another scum slip. I never said Gb was town. You have combed my filter in a desperate attempt to call me scum and have been proved wanting. I want to see what dam , sl and artanis make of my case on viv. Gb if you like my case on Viv can you explain why younare happy to lynch Marv.
Because I think marv is scum
Because I think marv is good enough to have a clear townread on me at this point
Because I think marv would have voted Palmar yesterday instead of voting Lazermonkey since he was throwing suspicions on Palmar since earlier days
Beause I think Palmar is a very good player and that marv also knows this, so if marv townreads Palmar and decides LM is scum he would defend the hell out of Palmar so they could work together
Because marv convienently decided to ignore my response on why damdred should be destroying me at this point just to call me scum for a contradiction that is clear it was only to hard prove a theory Artanis has brought
Because marv is still alive and it is day6 and he isn't leading town anywhere like he does when he is town.
The list goes on.
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