• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:27
CEST 23:27
KST 06:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence7Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1202 users

Imperial Mafia - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 53 54 55 Next
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#1650
On January 02 2015 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today

No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous.


Maybe in your opnion it's horrendous but hif it's horrendous it doesn't make me mafia and you're free to talk up to me, I've made it clear enough that I prefer the reasoning on the Chez than the reasoning on geript and I don't feel like lying about it.

Mostly I just see Koshi repeating to lynch me even though I still don't know why except that I was afk during a festivity. Koshi evidently doesn't have friends to party with at NYE bwhahaha
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 02:58 GMT
#1652
Geript posting pics means scumpoints.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 03:00 GMT
#1653
Esoecially when you try to garner compassion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 03:02 GMT
#1655
Artanis where do I get all the cool gifs
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 03:05 GMT
#1657
I know where to get the cool beers tho.

Not that heineken trash
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 03:08 GMT
#1658
That gif though
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 12:09 GMT
#1931
On January 02 2015 20:56 marvellosity wrote:
just saw the flip and read this page. a bats lynch was kinda understandable. not read how it happened yet though.


Not really understandable from my point of view as he said some things I don't see him making up as scum plus I found the bits I agreed with good, I remember specifically liking him for his suspicion of LM. Bats also found Chyz and Robik scummy, now that I'm looking at his earlier filter.
Funny enough none of them ended up voting for him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 12:16 GMT
#1933
That's not really relevant at this point. He's dead. But mostly I felt like trusting him after seeing his post on LM which I agreed with and still do, and as far as I remember LM kinda dodged the post focusing on his defense of Damdred, then when I questioned him about it he tried to turn the suspicion around, I replied and he went to sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 12:54 GMT
#1945
specifically it's hard to believe that Vivax couldn't understand what Chyz did from a town perspective.


No it's not so far from deadline and without having exhausted all possibilities and it surprised me. If this is going to remain your only argument say it cause then I can deliberately further ignore any pushes on me since I'd be talking to deaf ears.

Your argument for LM being scum is another than what me and snax used?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 12:56 GMT
#1946
Koshi can you try to play nicer for a bit and talk like a normal person. This isn't Dota 2. I have yet to see a way to engage you somewhat productively in all that yelling.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 13:06 GMT
#1950
On January 02 2015 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 21:54 Vivax wrote:
specifically it's hard to believe that Vivax couldn't understand what Chyz did from a town perspective.


No it's not so far from deadline and without having exhausted all possibilities and it surprised me. If this is going to remain your only argument say it cause then I can deliberately further ignore any pushes on me since I'd be talking to deaf ears.

Your argument for LM being scum is another than what me and snax used?

there's a significant difference between "surprising you" and "this makes me think we should lynch him"

it surprised me too.


And?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 13:32 GMT
#1961
On January 02 2015 22:27 Koshi wrote:
Vivax, I am not yelling. What you want to talk about?


I figured you'd be the one to ask me stuff since I'm your scumread, but if you're so sure about it that you don't need to do that then just carry on.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#1974
On January 02 2015 22:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 22:32 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 22:27 Koshi wrote:
Vivax, I am not yelling. What you want to talk about?


I figured you'd be the one to ask me stuff since I'm your scumread, but if you're so sure about it that you don't need to do that then just carry on.

Oh ok. So you totally agree with the 5 posts I made about you.

Quick recap. But please remember Vivax. These are not capslock. I am not yelling. I also don't see creeps to denie so I am pretty sure I am aware I am not typing in the Dota 2 client.

Explain to me your timeline:

From where I am standing it looks like when you posted on page 59 you read everything concerning Lazermonkey/batsnacks.
From where I am standing it looks when you discussed reads on page 62 you read everything concerning Chyz/Dr.H.
From where I am standing you commented on page 69 about a post made on page 68.
This goes on straight to page 72. But on page 72 you say you are "bad at the game and not up to date" to deflect suspicion.

So you were actively following from page 57 - 72. And you read everything concerning Lazermonkey/batsnacks/Chyz/Dr.H before page 57. You read posts from Palmar about geript being scum if marv is town. You read all posts from geript.

But then after all this you say:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:32 Vivax wrote:
Might be I'm just bad at the game or simply cause I'm not caught up but I don't feel as strongly about lynching geript as the majority here seems to. When I asked Artanis it didn't convince me, when I looked at that geript-marv interaction it didn't click either, although it seemed to be of great importance to DrH even though his fav. lynch is still Cyhz which to me makes more sense.

What the heck did you think you still needed to read to make an educated guess on geript.


I didn't read everything, just the posts that caught my eye and I consequently commented on, so I don't really have a red line you can follow when you see what I talk about, it's quite scattered. Now you can make your own assumptions regarding whether I would tend to be more scattered in my reading process as scum or as town (and you seem to think it's the former), but for this I can only say that
a) I don't always play up to my super tryhard standard, especially when I come back hungover from NYE and the thread volume exploded, but I tried by focusing on the parts I found interesting. A bit from this, a bit from that, I can't process a whole game at once in one moment.
b) I suggest I'll just do my thing and it's nice to know you don't close the shutters to the option that I'm town. It's really easy to get the gut-feeling that somebody is scum just cause he doesn't play to the standard you're used to and I can understand that.

I think I was drunk when I posted the bad at the game stuff, depends on you how much weight you give to it when I say I'm bad at the game cause maybe geript IS scum and I'm just too bad to see it, which was the thought at the time. Like, I kept going back to the arguments and I didn't get the aha-feeling that seemed so prevalent in thread sentiment. Artanis tried to show me first in a not-so-concrete way, then both Artanis and DrH kept telling me their reasons, but I remained with a meh.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 15:49 GMT
#2014
On December 31 2014 15:11 geript wrote:
You are not making my dick hard Dr. H. What do you think of sicklucker?


On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.


On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?


It might already have been mentioned but I don't really get this progression in geript's conversation I just read. Why does he go from asking about SL to asking about Robik without going for Robik himself previously when he's formulating it like DrH is supposed to scumread him?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:42 GMT
#2021
Reading that initial clinch between DrH, ritoky, SL, Eden and geript to a lesser extent is a pain in the ass. Eden's wording is even more tedious than reading austinmcc's posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:43 GMT
#2022
On December 31 2014 16:33 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 16:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:12 geript wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He just did post his own conclusions on geript lol. Why are you so on peoples nuts this early, you're treating everythinf like you're 5 minutes away from posting some earth shattering case

That's because Eden keeps on coming across as more and more scummy the more he posts. Plus it's kinda what I do.

@Eden - I'm not much good at anything besides reading in between the lines and bullying (apprentice of Ace style), but when I start to see the things I understand and that jump out of me I really stick to it. I do think you're town and that since you seem to be pretty diligent and detailed I feel good about what you might be able to add or pick out of my cases later. I'm actually pissed I didn't roll scum in this game. I started playing mafia as scum in like 8 straight games and then really got it again. I do look at meta if I'm really suspicious of someone or can't figure out their behavior. It's too much of a pain in the ass to do if I'm not gonna really make use of it

Lemme revisit this later, the appeals to me in here are setting off alarms but I can't tell if I'm being unfair/suffering from confirmation bias or if there's something there. I'll rattle off a brief idea of the problems and see if I still agree with it on a later read / if anyone else has anything to say about it. It makes me feel like I'm being buddied but again, I'm not sure I'm being fair.
- The appeal both to my perceived innocence and alleged attention to detail and diligence bother me in a site meta-environment where, broadly speaking, aggressive asshole = town and not-aggressive-asshole = mafia. I actually feel really bad calling this out because I really would like to believe Doc is town and just not running with that meta-environment (which I would love, because I think it's not a fun meta-environment), but based on my past experiences here, these kinds of appeals are more likely to come from mafia than town than chance suggests.
- Addendum to the above, my rough recollection of Ace is that he practically wrote the heuristic I mentioned above with his harsh but effective town plan, so it's (again?) incongruous to me that Doc plays a "read between the lines, bullying" game and then is nice and relatively uncritical of me in this post.
- The appeals shifted toward something about being mad about not rolling scum that I swear I've only ever heard mafia say. Maybe my past experience is broken but it just feels off.


Like this post is fucking bonkers.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:47 GMT
#2024
He talks to himself in that super convoluted way, and "between the lines" he's scumreading DrH or at least voicing his suspicion, but really, with no outcome at all. In other posts that are close by time he's all over the place.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:49 GMT
#2026
Why are you talking about this stuff. Talk reads and stop playing the town coach it's really incredibly useless.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:51 GMT
#2029
On January 03 2015 01:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Why are you talking about this stuff. Talk reads and stop playing the town coach it's really incredibly useless.

You are incredibly useless. I probably should have sheeped Koshi.


Objectively you're just yelling for people to do stuff when what you're doing isn't achieving anything in itself.
No analysis, just bullshitting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22029 Posts
January 02 2015 16:52 GMT
#2030
I'm posting this hot stuff on Eden and then I have this screaming peasant in my living room.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 53 54 55 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 137
JuggernautJason116
ProTech89
Lillekanin 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 582
Mini 342
Backho 61
Dewaltoss 56
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1106
Stewie2K337
Super Smash Bros
PPMD52
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu509
Other Games
summit1g6687
Grubby3936
FrodaN1293
shahzam435
ToD251
C9.Mang0128
NeuroSwarm94
Trikslyr43
ViBE37
Nathanias24
Sick22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 30
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 39
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3270
• masondota21826
League of Legends
• TFBlade765
Other Games
• imaqtpie1037
• Scarra836
• WagamamaTV334
• Shiphtur285
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 33m
PiGosaur Monday
2h 33m
LiuLi Cup
13h 33m
OSC
21h 33m
RSL Revival
1d 12h
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.