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On January 05 2015 04:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I was thinking last night about how inactive VE is but I also tend to care much less about a game if I miss Day 1 at all. I would prefer a geript switch for the time being but I'm far from being caught back up.
Vivax, has your read on JAT changed at all since night 1?
Well for one he's still in the background even though he pops out occasionally when I mention him and he sits on my wagon when all his reasoning as I remember is that I'm scumreading him when he's being universally townread and claiming that I'm misrepresenting. He popped out again when I questioned SL about his cop claim, not sure why.
His questioning of Robik gave me pause but I don't see him act up on it in any way, he questioned him a bit and that's it, li I'm still considering him to be possible scum for aforementioned reasons. I'm not gonna change that opinion just cause almost nobody else wants to lynch him. He's still just background noise in my opinion as he isn't trying to steer thread opinion while town heads for my lynch and I'm doing my best to avoid that by lynching lying scum geript.
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Yeah I tunneled a townie unto death. Forgive me for altering my approach to replacing in to games.
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Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax.
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NInjad again. Talk of the devil.
Anyway it doesn't sit right with me how JAT just skips over the arguments I found on geript, and how he questions Robik but doesn't really seem suspicious of him in his play afterwards. Questioning for the sake of questioning, more like.
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Geript and Vivax could be mafia together still, nothing rules that out imo.
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On January 05 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote:
His questioning of Robik gave me pause but I don't see him act up on it in any way, he questioned him a bit and that's it, li I'm still considering him to be possible scum for aforementioned reasons. I'm not gonna change that opinion just cause almost nobody else wants to lynch him. He's still just background noise in my opinion as he isn't trying to steer thread opinion while town heads for my lynch and I'm doing my best to avoid that by lynching lying scum geript.
You are either the most boneheaded idiot ever or scum. Seriously.
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On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax.
Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase.
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On January 05 2015 04:54 Vivax wrote:
NInjad again. Talk of the devil.
Anyway it doesn't sit right with me how JAT just skips over the arguments I found on geript, and how he questions Robik but doesn't really seem suspicious of him in his play afterwards. Questioning for the sake of questioning, more like.
How did I skip over your arguments? I even said I liked them.
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On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase.
I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest.
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On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch.
KK be wrong brah.
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Why did you move Chyz from Town to lynchable Geript?
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On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest.
But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch.
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On January 05 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch. What makes me hesitant is that I just don't really see geript giving up like that as scum while as town he might believe in some retarded logic where him dieing somehow makes sense. In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. On the other I don't get how someone who is being shadowed would play this way anyways. The same applies to GB.
I realized now that this was one of the major reasons I wrote off geript as scum read was because I thought his actions near deadline seemed genuine (which, like you pointed out, generally means town). But when reading his filter now I do think that his play is looking scummy. About 75% of his posts are still fluff and he seems quite unintrested about trying to lynch scum.
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On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch.
If you say so it has to be true I guess.
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Two reasons. PoE. I almost have too many town reads which concerns me more than anything else. Second, early-ish D2 I decided to throw out my D1 reads and reevaluate people based on play and shit. Asking me why I have Chyz as scum is just as dumb as asking why I have Kelsier as town.
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On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch.
Yup.
Geript argument:
Artanis? Convinced. Kelsier? Convinced. Me? Convinced. etc.
You? "I liked it but I don't think it makes him scum he plays like shit but I think he's town but I'm not trying to clear him in any way"
Either you think the argument is good and that he's scum or you think he's town and try to clear him by making your opinion clear in the thread and why I'm a better lynch than him but talking like this just makes you look worse.
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What I am also wondering is why geript tried to make Dr. H tilt yesterday. Is he just genuinely acting like an arrogant prick as town or is he trying to make a townie ragequit on purpose?
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On January 05 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch. If you say so it has to be true I guess.
Sarcasm, the sanctuary of the weak minded. I knew what you are doing. You are trying to save both Vivax AND geript and get town to lynch me. Because you are mafia with them.
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On January 05 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch. What makes me hesitant is that I just don't really see geript giving up like that as scum while as town he might believe in some retarded logic where him dieing somehow makes sense. In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. On the other I don't get how someone who is being shadowed would play this way anyways. The same applies to GB.
I think his complacency is more likely to come from scum than town. You mention that you think it's more likely for him to suck as town than scum, but I feel like his play in the first half of D1 has been geared towards survival, then when he felt that wasn't working he tried a different approach on the second half.
On January 05 2015 05:04 geript wrote:
Two reasons. PoE. I almost have too many town reads which concerns me more than anything else. Second, early-ish D2 I decided to throw out my D1 reads and reevaluate people based on play and shit. Asking me why I have Chyz as scum is just as dumb as asking why I have Kelsier as town.
Can you explain some of those townreads on people that aren't universally read as town because I'm not equipped with as much luxury.
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It's pretty simple if you guys look at their various interactions with me.
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