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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 04 2015 11:09 GMT
#3401
and why does my claim not make sense. Like I would think you would like to be cleared
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2015 11:14 GMT
#3402
On January 04 2015 20:09 sicklucker wrote:
and why does my claim not make sense. Like I would think you would like to be cleared

I wasn't about to get lynched. Obviously its nice to not really care about defending myself anymore but thats more a matter of comfort more than anything. Now you increase the chance of me and you getting shot. But w/e, we can discuss how I think you should play cop properly post game if you want. What is done is done.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2015 11:16 GMT
#3403
On January 04 2015 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
what about important people like vivax and gerit

I've already talked alot about Vivax. There is no need to talk further. For geript, I'm a bit unsure. Without reading his filter, I think he has been playing better than he did D1. He is not getting lynched today anyway I don't think, so he isn't that relevant anyway.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 04 2015 11:21 GMT
#3404
Ya... like I really thought ksc was claiming with a red check. And then I remembered he does this everygame. Whats done is done lets get a good lynch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:26 GMT
#3405
You're pretty awful if you're a cop sicklucker.

I mean, we know there is a cop and you haven't been counterclaimed so there is nothing to do but take your claim at face value.

Why can't more people be like Trfel when they play cop?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:28 GMT
#3406
I have no idea what's going on, I'm like 100 pages behind btw.

I'm probably going to rely mostly on my day 1 reads for today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:31 GMT
#3407
I believe the check btw, I already had lazer as probably town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:33 GMT
#3408
Also, just so people are aware, TheChyz has disappeared from the planet since people stopped trying to lynch him. He has literally not posted since that shitty martyr post.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 04 2015 11:36 GMT
#3409
Screw you. Ya I think were just all waiting for him to potentially be mod killed
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:46 GMT
#3410
I am actually going to vote him. I'm unsure if it's my final vote today, but he's been awol for like... 48 hours or something stupid?

I understand there might be a reason for that, and it also seems like the people defending him (mostly koshi) were actually town. And I still have the fact I didn't really think he was mafia day 1.

Still, gonna drop a vote, see if he wakes up. Aside from him I think we really should work towards reducing the number of people up for the lynch today. As I see it now, we have the following:

geript
superbia
vivax
iamrobik
ritoky
VE
Damdred
TheChyz

I need to eliminate a few more off this list, but it looks ok for now.

Also, if someone is in the mood for meta, marv has repeatedly done something this game that I don't recall him doing before. He's doing my thing where he asks other people to confirm for him. "I think this was x, can someone confirm". Maybe it's nothing though. In any case I'm not sure marv is the lynch today.

I am sorely tempted to actually go hard after Damdred. If I get the chance to read his filter I'll see what I think of it.



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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 04 2015 11:47 GMT
#3411
On January 04 2015 20:36 sicklucker wrote:
Screw you. Ya I think were just all waiting for him to potentially be mod killed

Screw me? You're not dumb sl. You KNOW that claiming cop with 1 green check is not optimal play. You made an impulsive decision.
Computer says mafia
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2015 11:53 GMT
#3412
For Palmar, this is my post on Damdred. Feel free to comment. Ignore the Bonus fact though, I missed that Vivax said that he thought Damdred was town : /
On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred.

Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong.

Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads?

So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.

Quick thought list

I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.

Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either.

Not too impressive imo.

BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum!

KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 13:05 GMT
#3413
SL isn't actually claiming cop though
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 13:52 GMT
#3414
On January 04 2015 20:46 Palmar wrote:
I am actually going to vote him. I'm unsure if it's my final vote today, but he's been awol for like... 48 hours or something stupid?

I understand there might be a reason for that, and it also seems like the people defending him (mostly koshi) were actually town. And I still have the fact I didn't really think he was mafia day 1.

Still, gonna drop a vote, see if he wakes up. Aside from him I think we really should work towards reducing the number of people up for the lynch today. As I see it now, we have the following:

geript
superbia
vivax
iamrobik
ritoky
VE
Damdred
TheChyz

I need to eliminate a few more off this list, but it looks ok for now.

Also, if someone is in the mood for meta, marv has repeatedly done something this game that I don't recall him doing before. He's doing my thing where he asks other people to confirm for him. "I think this was x, can someone confirm". Maybe it's nothing though. In any case I'm not sure marv is the lynch today.

I am sorely tempted to actually go hard after Damdred. If I get the chance to read his filter I'll see what I think of it.





I'd take VE and Chyz off that list.

The rest are all ok I want to give some thoughts on Robik

k. I was a bit fucked up yesterday and passed out but I remember trying to get a read on Robik and what bugged me was his reason for voting on bats,

On January 04 2015 12:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 12:05 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 11:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:35 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote:
[quote]
1) i did talk about jat d1 and n1 specifically in regards to my "involvment" in the bats lymch
2) already explained this as well
3) cause you said nk magnets instead of lynch targets
4) i called outa lotof people and i had my own agenda that i was tryijg to get through. i didnt even notice you two girls squabbling


What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after?

i said my top 2 scum pre-nk were ritoky and superbia. my post flip is you, but also think superbia and ritoky are scum.

Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills?

yes...because koshi got killed...also havemt called you scum since the flip since koshi had you solid town iirc based off of your eod1


Wait a minute. So for the fact that Koshi was the NK I'm scum, but when it's about reading JAT, it's cause you feel like sheeping Koshi.

How do you feel about yourself and geript then.

i have no feelings towards geript. He could be town. he could be scum. his wagon was by far filled with scummier voters than bats'

I feel like i'm town and I'm sticking to this read


Robik you say that the geript wagon was uglier than the bats wagon.

But here you point to this wagon being ugly

On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-


that wagon contains Eden and DrH .

Why is the bats wagon suddenly clean even though the same people voted on a "dirty" wagon




Chyz, vivax and batsnacks were FOS of mine, but Chyz was self-voting so meh. I don't know if I TR Eden until later or if I had TR him up to that point. but it just felt meh


Fair enough, you did townread DrH so him being on bats kind of helps you out aswell.

Who didn't you like on the geript wagon?



So like this discussion felt pretty important to me, he thinks the geript wagon is worse than bats wagon but bats wagon has eden on it , who at the time robik did not TR and was part of the ugly wagon
He said the geript wagon looked scummier but I guess apart from palmar I don't know who he scumread on that wagon.
One of the major issues is that he doesn't give a read on a lot of these people beforehand.

But when I look through his filter his main read I guess d1 is that DrH is town and palmar is mafia, I am a question mark. I guess it is plausible I just wish he had expanded on all of his reads d1.

You also look at the way the votes went down and it appears that Robik's vote didn't actually matter.

I admit I have no idea of Robik's usual play style, the only game we played together he was scum and AFK'd d1 and got lynched end of day.
His early play hasn't really overwhelmed me it just felt like he was shitting on people and calling people bad because they didn't have the same read as him. Like calling JAT bad because he was asking Eden questions.

I don't really understand why after the night kills vivax is mafia and the only person worth lynching according to Robik.
He has a giant scum list (admittedly viv is on it) but he loves Eden's "baller" analysis which has superbia,rit and geript as mafia but after the NK's viv is mafia and he doesn't want to go any further.

Despite all of this when I read through Robik's game he hasn't made any attempt to ingratiate himself with anyone, d2 his play has been more active and he has tried to push his thoughts specifically getting in JAT's face.

This post also felt really town

On January 04 2015 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor


i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax.

Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument

Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken.

So now it's your turn...why are my reads off? Why do you think I'm not trying this game? Maybe I'm not as verbose or articulate, but I don't think I ever am really. I wasn't confident d1 based off of NYE and not being able to participate really, but I was around enough to actually make a vote that could possibly matter. In fact, I think the reasoning that I gave for sheeping you wasn't all that bad either.

I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh.

i don't need to have a read on every player in the game. I can take stances on people if you'd like, but they wouldn't be justified and they'd probably be wrong as fuck anyway



Which is much better than what geript did which was spend ages not giving reads and getting pissed off when people asked him questions, then making a giant list post of nonsense.



Overall I am still undecided on Robik but something makes me feel he is town with an abrasive manner. Either way I don't think he should be a lynch discussion today




Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 13:56 GMT
#3415
I guess that narrows the scum list down to

Geript
Super
Viv
Rit
Dam
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 13:57 GMT
#3416
I also think SL is scum but he isn't on your list, guess you forgot to put him there.
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
January 04 2015 14:20 GMT
#3417
On January 04 2015 22:56 KelsierSC wrote:
I guess that narrows the scum list down to

Geript
Super
Viv
Rit
Dam


ZZZ since when are you scumreading me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
January 04 2015 14:21 GMT
#3418
It's like the first time I see you mention me as a scumread but you were always keen on defending Robik.
Something to remember if I flip.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 14:29 GMT
#3419
On January 04 2015 23:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 22:56 KelsierSC wrote:
I guess that narrows the scum list down to

Geript
Super
Viv
Rit
Dam


ZZZ since when are you scumreading me.


that is the list of people who palmar thinks should be considered for the lynch, I took chyz and VE off because I don't think they should be considered. you are up for consideration though.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 04 2015 14:32 GMT
#3420
On January 04 2015 23:21 Vivax wrote:
It's like the first time I see you mention me as a scumread but you were always keen on defending Robik.
Something to remember if I flip.


Was I keen on defending Robik?,I said I think there are better lynches and now I went and read his filter thoroughly and despite some odd points I think he is towny and I don't want to lynch him.

I scum read you d1 so
Zerg for Life
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