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On January 14 2015 00:43 sicklucker wrote: I really want to kill palmer first actually. If only so the mafia team concedes if its who I think it is. Im so evil Can you stop fucking pretending I'll flip mafia?
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On January 14 2015 00:53 sicklucker wrote: Also palmer didnt push marv day 1. Right after a game where he got marv to concede day one. Mr.marv probably isint mafia tho kill the plumber! And in no way does this make marv not mafia. Like if anyone is dumb enough to clear him if I flip before him based on me not figuring out whether or not he's scum day 1, there's gonna be punches in postgame.
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On January 14 2015 04:08 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, answer me.
Would you lynch damdred? yes
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On January 14 2015 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: Ok fuck palmar's response.
I think the scum team is Damdred, LM and one of Marv and Palmar. Actually possible.
On January 14 2015 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: Damdred, at this point, should be much more inquisitive and much more insightful than he is now. More than this, he should be on my neck for not posting what he calls that are my town traits. I haven't made a single case in this game and Damdred should wanting me dead for it. He isn't doing it now. Moreover, it makes sense if LM is scum because Damdred is very wishy washy against him. He calls LM scum but doesn't even have he guts to vote him. This sounds so much like Avogadros Mafia Damdred on LYLO.
Yes
On January 14 2015 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: Now, between marv and palmar. I find it extremely weird that they reciprocally scumread each other but votes ritoky together. Why are they voting with their scumreads? These pushes between each other feels fake. They could be scum together (marv back pedalling on palmar NOW is extremely weird). To be honest, a way to discover marv's alignment is to lynch Palmar. I think marv knows this and back pedalled on Palmar now because of this.
Because it doesn't matter what marv's alignment was at the time, he was always going to do exactly this because it was the right play.
On January 14 2015 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: That being said, I really believe the best lynch today should be marv. It will reveal palmar's alignment and I think, from the vets, marv has more probability to flip scum.
It won't say anything about my alignment, but I'm seriously warming up to the idea of lynching marv. I don't feel like he has been a major factor in anything that has happened this game.
He didn't say much (that I remember about bats) geript was my lynch superbia he did the same thing I did (which was, strictly the right play, but some people went for a hero play instead). ritoky was an autolynch after robik flipped. Even today, he's not committed to anything and there's not much left in the game. He just sort of waddles along without being controversial and makes just enough smart points to not get called out for it.
On January 14 2015 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: I'm considering that we have a mafia vet because night kills were perfect. Doctor probably tried to save marv day1 and sick avoided the kill. Which means marv is scum or scum is pro and avoided the marv's protection. In any case, there is a vet on the mafia side. And the probability of this vet being marv is higher.
I don't think this is relevant to finding mafia in the game at all.
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Actually let's just do this.
Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.
Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.
##vote marvellosity
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Like I want to make this absolutely clear.
Both marv and DP sort of townread me (marv still basically doesn't commit, but he should). Just look at the difference in HOW they do it. DP is willing to go with the "I wouldn't lynch palmar for a long time" whereas marv sort of meekly unvotes me while still keeping reservations.
What was the point of attacking me today (without any accusations, mind you) if he was not going to use it to actually reach some sort of conclusion.
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On January 14 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote: You think you can somehow get marvs alignment from my flip which isn't true. No but we can get marv's alignment from marv's flip.
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On January 14 2015 05:55 KelsierSC wrote: I think marv is town like 100% Based on what?
This is a surprisingly strong read for someone who is basically one of the top 2-3 players in the history of mafia and has done jack shit this game.
Now stones, glass houses, etc, but that's not the point.
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On January 14 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, do you understand how damdred flipping mafia tells marv's alignment? No, but I'm dumb, so there's that.
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On January 14 2015 05:59 KelsierSC wrote: LM would you be happy lynching palmar? Stop gathering support for a bad lynch and do things that aren't bad pls.
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Also 2 more reasons to lynch marv:
a) No dumb shit can in postgame say something like "OMFG MORONS WHY YOU NOT LYNCH MARV??? HE ALIVE DAY 4" b) #yolo
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On January 14 2015 06:00 Damdred wrote: I always hold my vote most of the time? I don't think that's alignment indicative of me.
I think GB can be scum yo so not thrilled with GB trying to soft push lm to me. So i have more thoughts than that or you could just join the crusade and murder the marv.
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Damdred and GB.
Put aside your differences.
There is a train going straight toward happyland and everyone is invited.
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On January 14 2015 06:03 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar, trust me in this lynch.
I take full responsibility if damdred flips town. I know, he's probably mafia.
Marv is just such a much more fun lynch.
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On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:alright i'm back Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote: Actually let's just do this.
Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.
Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.
##vote marvellosity why? Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.
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On January 14 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 05:58 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 05:55 KelsierSC wrote: I think marv is town like 100% Based on what? This is a surprisingly strong read for someone who is basically one of the top 2-3 players in the history of mafia and has done jack shit this game. Now stones, glass houses, etc, but that's not the point. I remember he made a smart post about the order of my lynches on d2 which I liked initially. Then his votes look pretty good. I think almost everyone who was confirmed town has read marv as town aswell and his filter is pretty large so all in all he is a town read for me and not the lynch at all. Votes looking good has nothing to do with being town.
In fact his votes look awful.
Not because he's been voting the wrong people but because he hasn't been making the sheeple line up and VOTE WITH HIM.
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On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:alright i'm back On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote: Actually let's just do this.
Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.
Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.
##vote marvellosity why? Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game. you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has! Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town.
You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway.
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On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:On January 14 2015 05:58 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2015 05:55 KelsierSC wrote: I think marv is town like 100% Based on what? This is a surprisingly strong read for someone who is basically one of the top 2-3 players in the history of mafia and has done jack shit this game. Now stones, glass houses, etc, but that's not the point. I remember he made a smart post about the order of my lynches on d2 which I liked initially. Then his votes look pretty good. I think almost everyone who was confirmed town has read marv as town aswell and his filter is pretty large so all in all he is a town read for me and not the lynch at all. Votes looking good has nothing to do with being town. In fact his votes look awful. Not because he's been voting the wrong people but because he hasn't been making the sheeple line up and VOTE WITH HIM. you mean except where i made ritoky fakeclaim? what is this? I somehow don't remember the ritoky thing being your stuff. Didn't sicklucker claim it too?
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On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote: are people going to seriously argue with me that I didn't push ritoky into that spot on day 3? Even if it was.
What you do doesn't matter. How you do it does ))))))))) (that's a russian smiley, I learned their language in the doto).
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Jesus, it's all clicking now.
The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).
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