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On January 04 2015 09:09 Superbia wrote:
ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia
TheChyz (2): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]
DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshi
geript (6): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892, batsnacks
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]
Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, Batsnacks
IAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear
Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik
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SL tell me what i'm not seeing on lazer that makes him town, i admit i can be blinded by omgus right now but explain it to me?
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Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before.
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Also fwiw, I don't think sick lurker can be mafia with laser. Both can be town but it's more likely that one is mafia.
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What makes lazermonkey scum? hes a backround player hes been in the background super,gb and ritoky are not
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Geript why havent you voted for vivax yet
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On January 04 2015 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I'm not really getting ritokys read on me, people say i'm defensive ritoky says i'm completely content. I really smell bullshit honestly. The game marches forward I should take in all the evidence and re evaluate as I go along, Ritoky says i'm moving my reads to whoever is in season? But I think i've been pretty consistant with who i've went after so far.
On January 01 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"
Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.
DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.
rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point. The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later) The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions. And the rit part is just null. I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit
here's you being overly polite.
On January 02 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
You put a good bit of work in but i'm just not sure if that makes him mafia necessarily.
abbreviated quote for space, here's it again with you commenting on drH's case.
i mean i am like 2 pages in with 5 examples i can pull of you being excessively polite when there's no cause. i like lazer's read. i don't think you're defensive in the slightest i think you're content. people reading you otherwise have a poor read.
your scum reads are not consistent at all. first and foremost here's the best i can make of your d1 scum reads:
lazer slight scum read altho you weren'tfully on the gas (but no vote). then no more all day. then shennanie on bats for bad reason.
your n1 scum reads:
On January 03 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
SL I think would be the scum there especially since he ws the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip.
outside of SL you bring back up your lazer read, suddenly after seeing drH as town all day the previous day you have a scum lean on him.
end of night phase:
On January 03 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
Sl I think is super suspect with how he's been acting and jumping back and forth.
robik idk he could be scum but more bullish for now.
your lazer read is neglected (only consistent read), robik has appeared out of thin air and SL is still scummy. drH is gone again.
todays reads:
On January 04 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
I actually would rather lynch into super, lazer and ritoky now.
suddenly lazer is back, i have made an appearance, and super is here; but robik is gone.
I wouldn't call this consistent.
lazer/bats -> SL/lazer/drH -> SL/robik -> Lazer/super/ritoky
I would in fact call that quite seasonal.
Your only consistent read is lazer. Further it is almost like you're distinctively attempting to avoid reading what people call "tier 1 players". You don't give definitive stances in terms of scum reads on almost any major thing happening in the game. So either you think all of these people are town fighting in which case you're not doing much to stop it or you are positioning yourself to have no real definitive stance so you can fall on whatever side is best for you. So pardon me if I think that lazer has a couple good points and after i heeded koshi's advice to look at your filter I found my own question marks. (see what i did there with the over-politeness?)
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On January 04 2015 09:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript why havent you voted for vivax yet
He's a good lynch from the things I've read about him, but I haven't actually directly read his filter myself. I might end up disagreeing and looking for a better lynch elsewhere. I just want to actually evaluate who I've voting for. Just because Koshi and others have had good points on Vivax doesn't make them right.
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Already talked about ritoky and lazer.
Geript feels the exact same as the last game I played in (where he was mafia):
1. Starts off tryhard and gets serious very quickly like he has something to prove.
2. Pretty much a non-agenda during d1. Says a bunch of somewhat townie shit, but pushes on nothing.
3. Then tunnels on a vet (marv now, HF then).
Also HARD READS marv mafia, after which he just votes batsnacks (which he didn't even believe in, whatsoever) followed by vivax out of nowhere, the two other wagons. He never votes marv, HIS HARD SCUM READ. Then the whole non self-preservation vote debacle, which has been discussed. I believe the self-preservation vote was unnecessary because he had team mates riding the vote train read to switch over if necessary (using the incredibly bad excuse dubbed "shenanigans").
SickLucker loves to focus on himself when he's town (played with him in campus mafia, where he was town and I was mafia), which he has not done this game at all. I'm not a 100% sure if he has changed up his gameplay or what, but I'm expecting town SL to call himself confirmed town every 3 posts, usually based on something ridiculous. This game has been completely different from his town game.
Like the guy literally says I wasted my vote when he is scum-reading ritoky himself. What?
Also associative read if geript is scum (which I believe).
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Also that Robik question is still unanswered:
Robik, why am I at the top of your scum list?
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Also, SL, why is lazer town?
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On January 04 2015 09:36 Superbia wrote:
Already talked about ritoky and lazer.
Geript feels the exact same as the last game I played in (where he was mafia):
1. Starts off tryhard and gets serious very quickly like he has something to prove.
2. Pretty much a non-agenda during d1. Says a bunch of somewhat townie shit, but pushes on nothing.
3. Then tunnels on a vet (marv now, HF then).
Also HARD READS marv mafia, after which he just votes batsnacks (which he didn't even believe in, whatsoever) followed by vivax out of nowhere, the two other wagons. He never votes marv, HIS HARD SCUM READ. Then the whole non self-preservation vote debacle, which has been discussed. I believe the self-preservation vote was unnecessary because he had team mates riding the vote train read to switch over if necessary (using the incredibly bad excuse dubbed "shenanigans").
SickLucker loves to focus on himself when he's town (played with him in campus mafia, where he was town and I was mafia), which he has not done this game at all. I'm not a 100% sure if he has changed up his gameplay or what, but I'm expecting town SL to call himself confirmed town every 3 posts, usually based on something ridiculous. This game has been completely different from his town game.
Like the guy literally says I wasted my vote when he is scum-reading ritoky himself. What?
Also associative read if geript is scum (which I believe).
This is 100% flat out a false explanation of my play in Russian. There's huge differences in my play there and here. Not just in activity but also in purpose. I made huge pushes on multiple days and nights and kept town completely off kilter in Russian. I made a case on Damdred, HF, major points on Marv, case on SnoMan which forced him to claim. This is basically just completely wrong and misrespresenting my play in Russian and any sort of comparison here. This is exceptionally scummy.
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Haha like holy shit I just figured an easy way to confirm people slam messed up
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On January 04 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Haha like holy shit I just figured an easy way to confirm people slam messed up
Fuck no. Don't use this. Even trying to do this is flat out cheating and I will fucking lynch you and push for you to get a huge fucking ban for this type of shit. This type of shit is totally unacceptable. Not only am I guessing that your system won't actually be correct, but this is the reason why hosts and cohosts shoudl always be very careful about how they post in and out of thread. The game should be about what happens int he game and not about OGI.
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I dont think its cheating at all but ill check with slam
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Infact i feel like its something slam wants us to pick up on
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On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before.
But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh.
Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred.
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On January 04 2015 09:43 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 09:36 Superbia wrote:
Already talked about ritoky and lazer.
Geript feels the exact same as the last game I played in (where he was mafia):
1. Starts off tryhard and gets serious very quickly like he has something to prove.
2. Pretty much a non-agenda during d1. Says a bunch of somewhat townie shit, but pushes on nothing.
3. Then tunnels on a vet (marv now, HF then).
Also HARD READS marv mafia, after which he just votes batsnacks (which he didn't even believe in, whatsoever) followed by vivax out of nowhere, the two other wagons. He never votes marv, HIS HARD SCUM READ. Then the whole non self-preservation vote debacle, which has been discussed. I believe the self-preservation vote was unnecessary because he had team mates riding the vote train read to switch over if necessary (using the incredibly bad excuse dubbed "shenanigans").
SickLucker loves to focus on himself when he's town (played with him in campus mafia, where he was town and I was mafia), which he has not done this game at all. I'm not a 100% sure if he has changed up his gameplay or what, but I'm expecting town SL to call himself confirmed town every 3 posts, usually based on something ridiculous. This game has been completely different from his town game.
Like the guy literally says I wasted my vote when he is scum-reading ritoky himself. What?
Also associative read if geript is scum (which I believe). This is 100% flat out a false explanation of my play in Russian. There's huge differences in my play there and here. Not just in activity but also in purpose. I made huge pushes on multiple days and nights and kept town completely off kilter in Russian. I made a case on Damdred, HF, major points on Marv, case on SnoMan which forced him to claim. This is basically just completely wrong and misrespresenting my play in Russian and any sort of comparison here. This is exceptionally scummy.
I have reviewed the game afterwards to see if I could get some scum-tells for a next game since you were nowhere near my scum-list in that game. The points I went over are the scum-tells I have on you and the points I have extracted from that game.
1. Your opening in russian mafia was remarkably try-hard, like you had something to prove. I remember specifically calling you out for it and finding it sort of scummy at the time. Forgetting about it was a mistake, since you were scum. You did the exact same thing this game (even though I was not around to call you out for it).
2. Looking back at the game, you only had an agenda on the surface. You said a bunch of townie shit and soft-pushed on a number of people with no real followup. In the end (of d1), you made a single case on HF.
3. You only tunneled and hard-pushed on HF during d1, and even this I felt was quickly abandoned as your case gained no traction (you also did not look for it to gain any traction).
Admittedly, I only looked at d1 of that game, so I do not particularly recall the whole sn0 business (i.e. who started the push and why).
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