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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 02:49 GMT
#2601
Why should I be TRing you kel
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 02:55 GMT
#2602
On January 03 2015 11:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, regarding keiser, he seems to be contradicting himself a lot. He's making posts asking why I'm town and he makes a post saying that I'm playing like shit but that he TRs me. Like wtf?


when did I ask why you are town.

you are playing like shit,

i don't town read you I dont scum read you

apparently you start palying good at some point and I am waiting for that.

If you really think I am top scum this game I just dont get you

You asked twice I believe. Once was to SL if I remember correctly


I was asking him to explain his town read on you , it wasnt in an attempt to read you at all
Zerg for Life
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 02:57 GMT
#2603
You keep shitting on me but not calling me scum. It's just bad. Take a stance mofo
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2015 02:57 GMT
#2604
On January 03 2015 11:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Plenty of decent arguments on SL but I think sicklucker's reasoning for voting with his townreads is fine. I can understand it. I've been in plenty of situations near crunch time where I was doubting a lot myself. Hell, even Dr.H switched from his strongest reads to Bats. Feels like a double standard.

Yhea, but the argument is not that he was voting with his townreads but how he did it. He went from being SUUUPER confident in his geript read to voting batsnacks solely based on the fact that 4 of his town reads did that.

DH on the other hand, was clearly suspicious of batsnacks long before he actually voted him. He clearly states what he disliked about batsnacks at all times as well. I really don't think this comparison is very good.

I've done something similar once. I tunneled Vivax for a while, Vivax tunneled me and eventually I started reading Vivax strongly as town. Then Promethelax came along and made an emotional appeal on me. I hammered Vivax.

People can be influenced even from their strongest reads. Though Dr.H was suspicious of Bats, he clearly favoured a Chyz or Geript lynch as well.

Yes but there is a clear difference between going from voting your top scum read to voting your second or third scum read to voting your top scum read to voting someone you didn't even have a read on at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 02:59 GMT
#2605
@sl wasn't that the game that was happening during titanic mspaint? I'll look at it soon didn't see it in the database.

@laser yes your point stands but I'm not sure what's wrong with me questioning someone who's actions I was trying to understand at that point and was here?

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 02:59 GMT
#2606
On January 03 2015 11:42 sicklucker wrote:
I town read marv because he was the first person to understand me voting my 4 town reads is not that scummy.
My first game I subbed in day 2 and was in final 3 with subia and some donkey who voted me all game. While not a total lurker sub tacticly checked out of the game at convient times. No idea what hes doing here hes probably medic actually.
This is way too much lurk even for him.

Why do you think that Marv opposing that point on you makes him town?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 03:00 GMT
#2607
On January 03 2015 11:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Plenty of decent arguments on SL but I think sicklucker's reasoning for voting with his townreads is fine. I can understand it. I've been in plenty of situations near crunch time where I was doubting a lot myself. Hell, even Dr.H switched from his strongest reads to Bats. Feels like a double standard.

Yhea, but the argument is not that he was voting with his townreads but how he did it. He went from being SUUUPER confident in his geript read to voting batsnacks solely based on the fact that 4 of his town reads did that.

DH on the other hand, was clearly suspicious of batsnacks long before he actually voted him. He clearly states what he disliked about batsnacks at all times as well. I really don't think this comparison is very good.

I've done something similar once. I tunneled Vivax for a while, Vivax tunneled me and eventually I started reading Vivax strongly as town. Then Promethelax came along and made an emotional appeal on me. I hammered Vivax.

People can be influenced even from their strongest reads. Though Dr.H was suspicious of Bats, he clearly favoured a Chyz or Geript lynch as well.

Yes but there is a clear difference between going from voting your top scum read to voting your second or third scum read to voting your top scum read to voting someone you didn't even have a read on at all.

Of course, but I still find it understandable. In my example I even had a townread on Vivax.
I was town.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 03:04 GMT
#2608
On January 03 2015 11:57 IAmRobik wrote:
You keep shitting on me but not calling me scum. It's just bad. Take a stance mofo


I haven't seen you make a post of real substance. you weren't here NYE and then you have mostly been accusing people of bad posts or getting defensive about people thinking you are scummy.

Like I said some other people in the thread said you are a good player so I am waiting till you start making a post of substance. You scum read me but I need to see the case before I can really make a read on you.

Zerg for Life
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2015 03:05 GMT
#2609
On January 03 2015 12:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Plenty of decent arguments on SL but I think sicklucker's reasoning for voting with his townreads is fine. I can understand it. I've been in plenty of situations near crunch time where I was doubting a lot myself. Hell, even Dr.H switched from his strongest reads to Bats. Feels like a double standard.

Yhea, but the argument is not that he was voting with his townreads but how he did it. He went from being SUUUPER confident in his geript read to voting batsnacks solely based on the fact that 4 of his town reads did that.

DH on the other hand, was clearly suspicious of batsnacks long before he actually voted him. He clearly states what he disliked about batsnacks at all times as well. I really don't think this comparison is very good.

I've done something similar once. I tunneled Vivax for a while, Vivax tunneled me and eventually I started reading Vivax strongly as town. Then Promethelax came along and made an emotional appeal on me. I hammered Vivax.

People can be influenced even from their strongest reads. Though Dr.H was suspicious of Bats, he clearly favoured a Chyz or Geript lynch as well.

Yes but there is a clear difference between going from voting your top scum read to voting your second or third scum read to voting your top scum read to voting someone you didn't even have a read on at all.

Of course, but I still find it understandable. In my example I even had a townread on Vivax.
I was town.

Well fuck. I still think it makes him look really bad but I guess there is some chance for him to be town still. Need to take a closer look tomorrow.

Going to bed now.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 03:17 GMT
#2610
On January 03 2015 11:45 sicklucker wrote:
Im never very confident in any day 1 reads is more what im saying especially my own. As far as day 1 reads tho I was pretty confident

Do you know of any past examples where you were not confident in a day 1 read I can look up and compare to? Because even if that's "pretty confident as far as day one reads," that seemed really confident for "never very confident in any day one reads" to me, and I know I'm not alone in this.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#2611
I don't like Lazer's post either. specifically 'well fuck, i still think"

Also, Kel still hasn't answered why i should TR him
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#2612
Look at the last student mafia, metal mafia and carol of the bells for sl
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 03:19 GMT
#2613
On January 03 2015 12:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:45 sicklucker wrote:
Im never very confident in any day 1 reads is more what im saying especially my own. As far as day 1 reads tho I was pretty confident

Do you know of any past examples where you were not confident in a day 1 read I can look up and compare to? Because even if that's "pretty confident as far as day one reads," that seemed really confident for "never very confident in any day one reads" to me, and I know I'm not alone in this.

who cares? booooring
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 03:23 GMT
#2614
On January 03 2015 12:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 12:17 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:45 sicklucker wrote:
Im never very confident in any day 1 reads is more what im saying especially my own. As far as day 1 reads tho I was pretty confident

Do you know of any past examples where you were not confident in a day 1 read I can look up and compare to? Because even if that's "pretty confident as far as day one reads," that seemed really confident for "never very confident in any day one reads" to me, and I know I'm not alone in this.

who cares? booooring

Boy hush
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 03:31 GMT
#2615
On January 03 2015 12:19 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't like Lazer's post either. specifically 'well fuck, i still think"

Also, Kel still hasn't answered why i should TR him


you have a scum case on me I want to hear it
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 03:42 GMT
#2616
On January 03 2015 11:46 IAmRobik wrote:
SL, what do you think of proper cop play since you asked


I thought about it Should just let him make the right decision and not get leveled
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 03:43 GMT
#2617
On January 03 2015 11:59 Damdred wrote:
@sl wasn't that the game that was happening during titanic mspaint? I'll look at it soon didn't see it in the database.

@laser yes your point stands but I'm not sure what's wrong with me questioning someone who's actions I was trying to understand at that point and was here?



Na it was before that my first game on tl.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 03:48 GMT
#2618
I am pretty close to wrapping up my cross-examination but I need the last question answered, sicklucker.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 03:49 GMT
#2619
On January 03 2015 12:19 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't like Lazer's post either. specifically 'well fuck, i still think"

Agreed. I don't get what part of Artanis's post would provoke that reaction.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:03 GMT
#2620
Dam you here?
Zerg for Life
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