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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 23:56 GMT
#2481
On January 03 2015 08:53 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 08:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Eden you made this giant post on bats with 3 reasons for calling him scum. I think your second case is good because I made it.

My question is this. If you have 3 reasons for calling bats scum right at the deadline why didn't you bother to read him or make a case on him earlier.

It feels like TMI

Someone else brought him up as a possible kill when there was roughly an hour or so left. I want to say Artanis without looking, but I don't know. I don't remember remembering anything batsnacks had done to that point, and I remember saying I would read batsnacks instead of someone else (I think Lazermonkey and Vivax?). I read his filter, examined the context of the posts I thought were important and made the case in a larger post.

I certainly wouldn't call it "right at the deadline," I think I made it with about 50 minutes left in the day, with at least a half-dozen people online to see it. Close, but not so close that people didn't have time to evaluate it for themselves.

I have to admit I don't really understand where your question is going.


my point is this. You have absolutely nothing on bats and no read but then you come up with a whole bunch of reasons to scum read him. Why weren't you looking at him earlier since you were such a headless chicken before then.

why does point 1 make bats scummy? why does point 3?

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 23:57 GMT
#2482
you basicaa
lly said everything bats had done in the game was scummy. but you hadn't noticed it before someone else decided to lynch him.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 23:58 GMT
#2483
brb 50
Zerg for Life
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 02 2015 23:58 GMT
#2484
Kelsersc, can you explain the TMI part of your accusation on Eden? Do you know what TMI even means?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 02 2015 23:58 GMT
#2485
Eden looks better move him to the townpile.

Eden, all you need to know is don't disagree with me on day 1 pls.
Computer says mafia
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 23:59 GMT
#2486
On January 03 2015 08:57 KelsierSC wrote:
you basicaa
lly said everything bats had done in the game was scummy. but you hadn't noticed it before someone else decided to lynch him.


isnt sicklucker just a worse example of this same problem
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 02 2015 23:59 GMT
#2487
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 23:59 GMT
#2488
On January 03 2015 08:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Kelsersc, can you explain the TMI part of your accusation on Eden? Do you know what TMI even means?


yes

he has 3 reasons instaantly to scum read bats, everything bats did was scummy apparenty
Zerg for Life
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 03 2015 00:02 GMT
#2489
On January 03 2015 08:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 08:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Kelsersc, can you explain the TMI part of your accusation on Eden? Do you know what TMI even means?


yes

he has 3 reasons instaantly to scum read bats, everything bats did was scummy apparenty

and how is that tmi.

in fact, Eden wanting to lynch batsnacks was a serious case of TLI
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:02 GMT
#2490
On January 03 2015 08:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 08:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Kelsersc, can you explain the TMI part of your accusation on Eden? Do you know what TMI even means?


yes

he has 3 reasons instaantly to scum read bats, everything bats did was scummy apparenty

You have one more chance: what is tmi and how does it apply to your case against Eden.

Hint:
+ Show Spoiler +
it doesn't
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 00:05 GMT
#2491
On January 03 2015 08:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Eden, would you say your towngame changed since heavyweight? If the answer is yes then how?

Absolutely, in large part because of it. I never had a handle on much of Heavyweight as it was going on. I just got myself towncleared day 1 by being spammy and trolly and coasted until everyone else who was talking died, and I got so wrapped up in trying to be spammy and trolly and funny that I forgot about actually playing the game. I did what I could to salvage it and tried to find the mafia at the end, but I was so far behind the eight ball that it's doubtful I would have really come back to win even if the mafia team hadn't played absurdly well.

This began a decline in my online town play with some egregiously disastrous mislynches I drove and mafia I defended, because I took the wrong lessons from the game. Here's what I should have learned from it and did learn after having another disastrous performance recently in my Facebook group:

- I was not engaged enough in digging into the content of posts. I got away from asking questions and following up on things and found myself mostly sheeping things that sounded good late in phases. On the odd occasion I was questioned about things I found myself unable to articulate convincingly why I believed certain things I did. I've tried to refocus myself toward more pointed questioning, and I hope it's shown in some of my interrogating this game.

- I was too engaged with the game in terms of time. I averaged a post every 15 minutes for the entire span of the game. That's fucking ridiculous. I got obsessive with the game and checked it nearly every waking hour I had. When you work overnights with an Internet connection, as I did back then, that's a lot of waking hours. I spammed a bunch and made the thread shitty to read and when I did try to follow up on something (ex: stupid tunnels on Holyflare and marv), I never gave myself a chance to look at it with a fresh set of eyes. You can't genuinely look at something with a fresh set of eyes when you're checking the game every 2 hours. Combined with working another job where I can't readily access the game, one thing I've done differently this game is force myself to be away from the thread at times, so that I can give myself a reset and stop myself from chasing my tail. It's made keeping up a little difficult because there's a lot of posts in this game, but I'm doing what I can.

- I got too paranoid about my townreads. My constant back-and-forth about Holyflare being town then Holyflare being mafia etc. was one example. I don't talk about townreads as much because I don't really see the need to do so, but where I have come around to townreading people, like Doc for example, I'm making myself trust the read even if there's a voice in the back of my head casting doubt on it. I've mislynched out of paranoia too many townies who I obviously and correctly townread, and I've decided that plays like your play in WHC, where I get totally bamboozled, are too few and far between to be worth worrying about.

- Time. That was five months ago. I feel like I've grown a lot personally, become a lot more mindful, etc. etc. I could go on here but five months is a long time for a 20-something in terms of maturity.

I think that hit the high points, if you care to hear more I can go dig up FB chats from the past 2 weeks and talk more about individual happenings but I think this should suffice.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:07 GMT
#2492
I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 00:07 GMT
#2493
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2494
On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?

i like how you say i'm bad and making weird reads when you end up coming to the conclusions I arrive at hours later. A+ work marv. Keep it up
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2495
robik you need to read kelsier's filter in carol and tell me with a straight face it's the same alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2496
On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote:
I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time

Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2497
On January 03 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?

i like how you say i'm bad and making weird reads when you end up coming to the conclusions I arrive at hours later. A+ work marv. Keep it up

like what?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:09 GMT
#2498
On January 03 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
robik you need to read kelsier's filter in carol and tell me with a straight face it's the same alignment

huh?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:10 GMT
#2499
On January 03 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote:
I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time

Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead?

You're welcome. I'd like to discuss who is/isn't mafia instead of why/how your gameplay changed. Maybe I'm asking too much
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 00:10 GMT
#2500
On January 03 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 03 2015 08:59 geript wrote:
Marv/Palmer, can you guys explain what I'm missing on Eden?

dunno, read his posts?

i like how you say i'm bad and making weird reads when you end up coming to the conclusions I arrive at hours later. A+ work marv. Keep it up

like what?

Eden
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