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On January 03 2015 07:08 sicklucker wrote:
Like your focusing on shit things. If im town I cant figure out whats going on in gerits head. Hes definitely conceding tho. That could be as town or mafia. He later explain his vote and I kinda believe him? But at the time it looked like he was trying to kill himself. And like I dont think mafia does that ever when they can vote to kill a town.
all your posts stink of wifom and you trying to clear yourself with poor logic.
you argue that there is no way that you and geript can be scum because about 3 pages into d1 you made some jokey post that no one took seriously.
Again one of the main things that is scummy is you are just obsessed with trying to clear people, mostly yourself and tell people how towny you are and all the towny things you have apparently done.
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On January 03 2015 07:15 Koshi wrote:
For the people who want to lynch scum on D2/D3/D4
D2:
Vivax is scum
This is a freebie. Look at the cases I made at the start of the night.
During the night Vivax was telling JAT he is scum. He won't be bothered to explain it to the thread why JAT is scum, so I don't suggest reading his conversation with JAT. It was pretty numb.
I brought up the argumets on JAT already. Not sure you're even reading.
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@Koshi im definitely gonna reread your case and give you alot more of my attention. I do think town is off the rails and you could be the saving grace. Or the devil  but I hope the first one. why robik tho I just dont get it.
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On January 03 2015 06:59 sicklucker wrote:
Who made that list post on the people who wasted their votes? because that was really good. Was that ritoky or eden?
That was me. Hidden behind double quotes for readability:
Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip. On January 02 2015 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:I kount vot ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia TheChyz (3): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshigeript (4): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, BatsnacksIAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (2): Koshi, geript Batsnacks (6): Justanothertownie, eden1892, doctorhelvetica, artanis[Xp], damdred, sicklucker Not Voting: folks Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched.
until deadline. First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are: Superbia ritoky Koshi geript Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here. Superbia: Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way. I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia? ritoky: After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker). This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote." Koshi: Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location. Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town. geript: On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch? This is garbage. Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier? And then there's this gem shortly before: On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed. geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that. TL;DR ritoky, Superbia mafia geript wtf
Anyway, I don't think geript answered this (not hiding for readability):
On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:geript: Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch? This is garbage. Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier? And then there's this gem shortly before: Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed. geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.
So can anyone else explain how this makes sense from... any POV? His explanation is obviously BS to me and I feel like he has to be mafia because I can't see why a townie would do that.
I was reading the thread some at work and I think I'm on top of things, but it's possible I missed something. Did Superbia ever say anything that mattered? I saw ritoky did.
I think I want to kill Superbia and/or geript today. I also think sicklucker's recent posts are rather suspicious but I don't want to kill him because he's adorable. Everything he posts makes me want to hug him and say "Bless your heart boy" and reach for a swig of sweet tea while sitting in my rocking chair on my front porch. I admit this is atrocious reasoning and will probably be talked out of it if sicklucker is the kill tomorrow but can we keep him? please???
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On January 03 2015 07:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 07:08 sicklucker wrote:
Like your focusing on shit things. If im town I cant figure out whats going on in gerits head. Hes definitely conceding tho. That could be as town or mafia. He later explain his vote and I kinda believe him? But at the time it looked like he was trying to kill himself. And like I dont think mafia does that ever when they can vote to kill a town. all your posts stink of wifom and you trying to clear yourself with poor logic. you argue that there is no way that you and geript can be scum because about 3 pages into d1 you made some jokey post that no one took seriously. Again one of the main things that is scummy is you are just obsessed with trying to clear people, mostly yourself and tell people how towny you are and all the towny things you have apparently done.
Ok well im just going to ignore you two now and find scum. Not very productive if you dont like my defense.
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On January 03 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:59 sicklucker wrote:
Who made that list post on the people who wasted their votes? because that was really good. Was that ritoky or eden? That was me. Hidden behind double quotes for readability: Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip. On January 02 2015 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:I kount vot ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia TheChyz (3): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshigeript (4): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, BatsnacksIAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (2): Koshi, geript Batsnacks (6): Justanothertownie, eden1892, doctorhelvetica, artanis[Xp], damdred, sicklucker Not Voting: folks Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched.
until deadline. First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are: Superbia ritoky Koshi geript Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here. Superbia: Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way. I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia? ritoky: After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker). This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote." Koshi: Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location. Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town. geript: On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch? This is garbage. Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier? And then there's this gem shortly before: On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed. geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that. TL;DR ritoky, Superbia mafia geript wtf Anyway, I don't think geript answered this (not hiding for readability): Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:geript: On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch? This is garbage. Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier? And then there's this gem shortly before: On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed. geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that. So can anyone else explain how this makes sense from... any POV? His explanation is obviously BS to me and I feel like he has to be mafia because I can't see why a townie would do that. I was reading the thread some at work and I think I'm on top of things, but it's possible I missed something. Did Superbia ever say anything that mattered? I saw ritoky did. I think I want to kill Superbia and/or geript today. I also think sicklucker's recent posts are rather suspicious but I don't want to kill him because he's adorable. Everything he posts makes me want to hug him and say "Bless your heart boy" and reach for a swig of sweet tea while sitting in my rocking chair on my front porch. I admit this is atrocious reasoning and will probably be talked out of it if sicklucker is the kill tomorrow but can we keep him? please???
No, no one will escape the hell of my tunnel
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On January 03 2015 07:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 07:08 sicklucker wrote:
Like your focusing on shit things. If im town I cant figure out whats going on in gerits head. Hes definitely conceding tho. That could be as town or mafia. He later explain his vote and I kinda believe him? But at the time it looked like he was trying to kill himself. And like I dont think mafia does that ever when they can vote to kill a town. all your posts stink of wifom and you trying to clear yourself with poor logic. you argue that there is no way that you and geript can be scum because about 3 pages into d1 you made some jokey post that no one took seriously. Again one of the main things that is scummy is you are just obsessed with trying to clear people, mostly yourself and tell people how towny you are and all the towny things you have apparently done.
He already dropped hints that he was really wanting to collect town cred from the geript lynch and now he's acting like he got it already even tho geript didnt flip and he backed down on his read. Why would you suspect someone for martyring and giving up and then feel like they're town for ..exactly that? stinky
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I wanna kill superbia too. The game where he beat me as mafia he lurked super hard so im not sure wtf dandred is going on about. Which is why I rescinded that town read.
I think super is like 80% mafia those are pretty good odds.
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Koshi, what do you make of the final votecount?
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I'm currently working on a apreadsheet of doom to get more clues out of the list posts Iquoted previously. Might take a while.
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I kinda want to lynch palmar for his post on page 22
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OK sicklucker, I like you and I want to believe you aren't mafia, so I want you to do something for me, because it is hard to do so right now.
I need you to take a minute, collect your thoughts from the hour before and after the batsnacks lynch, and tell me in one post what your thought process was and why you did what you did. I will ask you questions about it which will refer back to your previous responses in the thread. If I don't like them I will lynch you, maybe tomorrow maybe later but I will come around to it at some point and you'll die. If I do like them I will trust my instinct that you're town and ignore the incredibly shifty reasoning you've given so far to justify your behavior.
I feel like sicklucker is getting extremely flustered because he believes the batsnacks lynch looks bad for him, and if he's fairly inexperienced to the game (as I believe he is? just based on tone, someone can correct me if I'm wrong) I can see plausible town and mafia reasons for getting flustered like that.
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I actually want to lynch half of the players list
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ya im done, this game has been such a mispleasure to play. Thanks dr.H, great game played by you. Best town player by far. You caught the scum. Here are my current notes btw.
Not sure if sarcasm when he tilted.
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On January 03 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, what do you make of the final votecount?
That there are not enough votes on Vivax.
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I hate Artanis atm... Jesus...
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On January 03 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, what do you make of the final votecount? That there are not enough votes on Vivax.
Well, do you believe the wagon on bats was pure town?
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On January 03 2015 07:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +ya im done, this game has been such a mispleasure to play. Thanks dr.H, great game played by you. Best town player by far. You caught the scum. Here are my current notes btw. Not sure if sarcasm when he tilted.
I don't really get why he would, as mafia, ragequit right after trying to post a big case on Lazermonkey and right before posting all his claimed notes for the game, though. Like if he's mafia giving up and letting himself get lynched why would you bother to post a big list of things?
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On January 03 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote:On January 03 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, what do you make of the final votecount? That there are not enough votes on Vivax. Well, do you believe the wagon on bats was pure town?
What do you believe?
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