Imperial Mafia - Page 11

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 22:47 GMT

#5921

On January 08 2015 07:38 Lazermonkey wrote:

He said like 10 times that he was about to claim cop if we wouldn't lynch ritoky. Then he claims. I'm not sure that makes him scum or cop. He could just be dumb town.

No because he knows if he's wrong as town and ritoky is cop he has thrown the game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:05 GMT

#5935

On January 08 2015 07:57 IAmRobik wrote:
If I rescind my claim, will I get lynched here?

No

But neither will ritoky.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:10 GMT

#5939

On January 08 2015 08:07 IAmRobik wrote:

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I mean. I'm cool with that as long as I can reclaim tomorrow. I really really want to lynch superbia today. And those people on his wagon right now look pretty townie and i kinda trust that he will flip scum. Do you really think town won't be able to make the right decision tomorrow between me/ritoky if maf doesn't nk me?

No, ritoky is never getting lynched if you rescind.

If you rescind and reclaim, your reclaim will be taken as a scumclaim. Because if you are cop, we have free mafia in ritoky.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:16 GMT

#5947

On January 08 2015 08:11 IAmRobik wrote:

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but but but i wanna be greedy
I really want to lynch someone who's not ritoky to force mafia to decide on whether to kill me tonight or not

No

you're balls deep in now.

If you're VT you've literally just thrown the game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:16 GMT

#5948

On January 08 2015 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Ritoky fake claimed under pressure. I counter-claimed, but am considering rescinding and letting him live one extra day in order to lynch someone else who I think is mafia with him.

Never do this.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:18 GMT

#5954

On January 08 2015 08:16 IAmRobik wrote:

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What if I'm VT and someone else is the cop who is not Ritoky?

Doesn't matter.

We HAVE to lynch 50/50 mafia today.

if you claim that's ritoky.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:20 GMT

#5958

Btw I'm going to sleep in like 20 minutes.

Robik, stand by your claim. yes or no?

Any other answer and I'm just gonna leave my vote on you out of frustration.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 07 2015 23:25 GMT

#5969

On January 08 2015 08:21 IAmRobik wrote:

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yes....at least until you go to sleep

taking that as yes.

Leaving my vote on ritoky.

If ritoky flips anything other than mafia, I will park my vote on you and afk through the rest of the game.

Good night.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 08:48 GMT

#6202

@Robik why is Damdred "lock clear"?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:14 GMT

#6213

Whatever.

I cba with this tonight. See you tomorrow.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:19 GMT

#6216

On January 08 2015 19:17 DarthPunk wrote:

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Don't leave me here lover :D

No. Enough people have called me mafia this game for no good reason other than not wanting to read 300 pages of shit.

If you're just gonna call me mafia we can wait until day breaks so defending myself will actually be worth it.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:24 GMT

#6218

On January 03 2015 06:04 Palmar wrote:
Yes, I have a few strengths and a few weaknesses in mafia.

List of weaknesses:

1: I'm terrible in the mid-game, because I can't tell dumb from scum. So I repeatedly lynch people who don't agree with me.
2: I generally give one mafia a free pass for no good reason
3: I ignore mafia all the time. When I have players I've mostly ignored, those players often tend to be mafia (think superbia this game).

So yes, I know that there is a possibility you're dumb town. You're either dumb town or scum. And I just have to roll the dice. Of all the people on that shitty wagon, you're the one who should have had the sense to actually get things done properly, but you didn't.

I don't think you're dumb JAT, so by process of elimination, you must be mafia.

Will I ever learn.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:25 GMT

#6220

marv your main mission is to clear me so people don't do dumb shit.

Could you do that for me please?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:25 GMT

#6221

On January 08 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
judging by the rest of that post, no ^^

The JAT thing was basically me trolling/venting/trying to shit on jat/riling him up

I think I even clarified before dawn that I didn't actually think JAT was mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:27 GMT

#6224

On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote:

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If you can explain in less than 300 words why geript is mafia.

This looks worse for Vivax now. I don't think he actually knew why we were pushing geript at the time.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:28 GMT

#6227

On January 08 2015 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:

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Why did you say that DrH was 'probably town' at the very start of the game?

And what was with the big list posts at the start?

Did I say that at the very start?

I think my read on him came based on the same thing Robik said day 1. That no matter if Chyz (now chezinu) is town or mafia, it really looked like DrH genuinely believed his read on Chyz.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:30 GMT

#6228

On January 08 2015 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
if you're town, I know you'll do a good enough job defending yourself not to get lynched.

lynch should only be in one place tomorrow anyways, and that's not you

Yes, I am certain that you (no matter your alignment) will be convinced if I get forced to defend myself. As I have weaknesses in mafia, I have a few strengths as well, one of them being defending against being mislynched (although a better strength would be to not get into the situation where I have to defend myself)...

The problem is I don't trust the rest of this crowd. The lynch inertia is strong.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:32 GMT

#6229

On January 08 2015 19:25 Palmar wrote:

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The JAT thing was basically me trolling/venting/trying to shit on jat/riling him up

I think I even clarified before dawn that I didn't actually think JAT was mafia.

See! proof!

On January 03 2015 08:18 Palmar wrote:

I was mostly trolling, or I guess venting, with the JAT thing. Don't lynch him automatically, but make sure that if he does more dumb shit you do.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 10:49 GMT

#6249

On January 08 2015 19:36 DarthPunk wrote:
The following posts both look garbage to me. Very wishy-washy, and I can't seem to empathize with the conclusions he does draw.

Palmar, admits himself that he has a strong day one but these posts feel fake and obligatory.

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Then he tunnels geript for a bit and does nothing I really like.

This post seems more likely to come from scum at the start of the game also, just because scum are more likely to feel demotivated early in my experience, conversely a townie who believes he has caught scum is much less likely to feel demotivated.

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You have to read in context.

I wanted to lynch geript. I got a wagon going on geript, when I went to sleep geript was the leading candidate for a lynch. However when I woke up town had voteswitched on to batsnacks (and not Vivax as I had suggested) and killed him. This led me to being extremely frustrated as I didn't even know people were considering batsnacks as a lynch target and I had read batsnacks as town.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 08 2015 11:03 GMT

#6255

On January 08 2015 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:

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On January 08 2015 19:49 Palmar wrote:

On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?

I'll catch up with the rest later.

geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.

Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.

DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.

Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".

Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.

I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.

Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.

Cool, so why were your first large posts on day one such wishy-washy inconclusive garbage when you are known for having strong day ones and I personally think you are an excellent player?

What benefit did you wish to gain by creating that list post? why did you call DrH probably town?

They're not inconclusive garbage. In fact, me hedging half my calls with wording like "very slight leaning town read" is probably the biggest tell that I am town this game.

However I also wouldn't expect just about anyone to understand that.

It's basically me trying not to be wrong, or if I am wrong have something to point to "hey look, I told you I just called him town for this small thing, not my fault he didn't end up being town". If I was mafia I'd be far more confident in my reads, or so I think, at least.

And the list post was basically me trying to do useful stuff. I decided to punch in what I was thinking at that point in the game.

and I already explained why I called DrH town.

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