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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:49 GMT
#5768
On January 08 2015 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you here, Palmar?

I was at the beach when you posted about bouncing reads

Yes.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:51 GMT
#5771
On January 08 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
fuck i'm terrified that he's the cop but i can't see how he can be the cop

you were right the first time.

We should just get the CC. we're 1 day from lylo and the cop never knows if he's going to get shot or not during the night.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:53 GMT
#5774
On January 08 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Exactly, Palmar. That contradiction reveals ritoky isn't the cop either.

Yes, but I'm not certain enough to kill him while unccd.

I only see 2 options:

a) kill someone random (hint: Damdred)
b) get a cc

Like if he is mafia then massive kudos to whatever townies actually have the balls to just call him out on it. But I have seen so much terrible cop play over the years that this could very well be a true claim.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:53 GMT
#5776
On January 08 2015 06:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:43 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:
let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow.

On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me.


ok out your checks then bro


DrH n1 was green
SL n2 was green

i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red.

fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints.



On January 08 2015 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote:
Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it.

I kount vot and stahp it


ritoky (1): Superbia
TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz
geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear
Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik

Not Voting: folks

batsnacks is lynched.

until deadline.




I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)
IAmRobik (1): Superbia
geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in


reposting the votes with my town reads

blue = my town reads
Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis.

I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him.

I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart.

because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read.

so my scum team right now is:
1) marv
2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL.
4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me
5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5.


OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker.

GG

##vote: ritoky

sorry for not listening marv

#teammarbic


We need that counterclaim.

Till then, he is confirmed. But yes, I sort of do expect a counterclaim.

Disclaimer: I am no role. Lynch me if I ever claim one.

What?!?!? Absoluetly not

REAL COP DO NOT FUCKING COUNTER CLAIM. THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS FAKE CLAIM OF ALL FUCKING TIME. DUDE DOESN'T EVEN COLOR IN HIS FUCKING CHECK. LOLOLOL. HE ALSO DOES 0 ANALYSIS ON WHETHER THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY FRAMED.


Ok, Robik is scum. He didn't even read the very recent post where ritoky answeres to the same accusation I made.


No, and this post + defending damdred really swings you back into mafia territory for me.

Robik's reaction is completely justifiable. The cop's job is not to interpret his own reads when breadcrumbing. Like without the claim there is 0% chance anyone would have understood what ritoky's checks are. (at leas the sicklucker one).

His job is to give us the checks and let US interpret them.


Dude ritoky hinted at being cop so early by bringing up the framer part, which makes him very likely to be cop unless he thinks that he was the lynch of the day that very moment. Plus he doesn't claim to have a red check get a better push going than simply leaving behind a guy "green, but could be framed".

Robik is still going nuts over this with no CC in sight, and I don't trust this guy to be doing it for towns sake. Like, the only thing that made me think he was town is that he claimed he was sure somebody else would be cop. Now that this is still not in sight, I'll go back to thinking Robik is scum trying his best to get our cop under suspicion. Maybe one of his team will fake-counterclaim later.


.........................................
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:54 GMT
#5780
On January 08 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, I have read some posts from damdred that made him look townie. I think this is not a day to lynch him.
But he isn't actively trying to solve the game. His thoughts aren't well explicit in the thread. He could be mafia, yes.

He is more of a null than scum here.

1) show me those posts.

2) he's null for everyone. Like Vivax just defended him using the same bullshit.

HE'S NULL FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE HE'S NONDESCRIPT MAFIA. GO READ HIS FILTER IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#5787
Like these fucking soft defenses of damdred make me want to do this:

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:57 GMT
#5790
On January 08 2015 06:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:53 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Exactly, Palmar. That contradiction reveals ritoky isn't the cop either.

Yes, but I'm not certain enough to kill him while unccd.

I only see 2 options:

a) kill someone random (hint: Damdred)
b) get a cc

Like if he is mafia then massive kudos to whatever townies actually have the balls to just call him out on it. But I have seen so much terrible cop play over the years that this could very well be a true claim.

i have to agree with this. i dunno if it's because we're the old hands in the game but we seem to be thinking the same

a cc would not only net us mafia (unless it's superbia at which point i start hitting babies) but also brings a massive amount of clarity

Cool so we're on the same kill-Damdred page?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 21:59 GMT
#5796
On January 08 2015 06:58 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote:
Like these fucking soft defenses of damdred make me want to do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZr3sTMQlU


i think 2 out of the 3 of SL, robik, and damdred are mafia; i have been repeatedly stating it all phase. this is based on the day 1 lynch and how many towns were on it. i cannot believe it was entirely town. as of right now (might be the omgus in me) i am inclined to believe it is robik and SL

I don't care what you're inclined to believe. Your opinions are of no value as you (through your breadcrumbing methods, your bullshit checks etc) have proven incapable of thinking.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:05 GMT
#5814
On January 08 2015 07:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Jesus christ. I'm the cop. COol? Can we lynch him now?

oh.

this is a hard claim?

you're going to shout at me post-game aren't you?

NO. I'M GOING TO SHOUT AT YOU RIGHT NOW. I LITERALLY GAVE YOU YOUR CLAIM. I TOLD YOU THAT RITOKY WAS RED AND I'M GREEN.

I checked Eden n1 and I checked DrH last night. I didn't want to claim because it seemed DrH is gonna be modkilled. LeSigh

did you crumb this at all?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:08 GMT
#5823
Well I'm fine with this.

Robik you know I'm lynching you tomorrow if ritoky flips cop.

But as I pointed out, Robik's rage was completely justified and his reaction was too, and even more so if he actually is the cop. That also explains how certain he was the claim was fake.

ez reds.

get on ritoky bros.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:09 GMT
#5825
On January 08 2015 07:08 IAmRobik wrote:
I STILL DONT' KNOW WHY I HAVE TO FUCKING CLAIM THERE. HIS FUCKING CLAIM WAS SUCH FUCKING TRASH

Because we don't have your perfect information.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:10 GMT
#5828
On January 08 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Either way.
DrH town
Marv town
SL highly likely town

We only need to find a few more

By this point you need to call me town. That would be mighty helpful too.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:11 GMT
#5834
On January 08 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
i'd actually rather not lynch ritoky today

all that we get today is everyone votes on rit and we get no info.

No.

We have 2 hard claims cop.

We lynch 1 today and other tomorrow if the 1st one flips cop.

If 1 of them flips vanilla town I will literally just stop playing this game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:13 GMT
#5840
On January 08 2015 07:10 IAmRobik wrote:
If all of you want, we can try to hedge it and lynch Vivax today. hopefully he flips scum and then scum gets to decide whether they want ritoky to try to keep fighting against me and give me more checks or if they want to nk me and then you lynch ritoky tomorrow anyway.

We can do it the other way around, that way also gives us an exit strategy if you're the mafia here. Your way wins the game if you're mafia and vivax flips town.

I don't think you're mafia, but you know, lack of perfect info = I'd rather do the safe thing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:15 GMT
#5848
On January 08 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
we don't hedge and we don't lynch for voting information, we kill the mafia in front of us.

BUT THEN I DIE AND I DON'T HAVE THE FAITH THAT YOU FREAKING IDIOTS WILL LYNCH VIVAX!

Don't worry, his defense of damdred + his dumb shit reaction into calling you mafia basically eroded all town cred he had.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:16 GMT
#5851
Like even if you are somehow mafia, the reason is not your reaction to the ritoky thing
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:25 GMT
#5868
I'm off to dota. I'll read later to see if robik is genuinely rescinding (I've missed the pages while making this flowchart).


[image loading]
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#5882
vivax-ritoky-superbia-damdred-ksc?

Seems sort of reasonable. also lines up with what I know if I just assume marv is town.

gb I read today and thought he could be town
sl I think is town because of shenanigans
artanis and drh I have no idea bout but I townread them both on day 1.
i'm town, and robik is in this scenario town.

only leaves Chezinu as the wildcard.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:33 GMT
#5897
On January 08 2015 07:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm not lynching ritoky if there is no hard claim against him. Not one chance.

we're basically counting robik's claim as a hard one, in the sense that there is literally no way he'd pull this shit off as vanilla townie. So either he is the cop or mafia.

Most likely he is the cop.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2015 22:37 GMT
#5909
On January 08 2015 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:33 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 07:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm not lynching ritoky if there is no hard claim against him. Not one chance.

we're basically counting robik's claim as a hard one, in the sense that there is literally no way he'd pull this shit off as vanilla townie. So either he is the cop or mafia.

Most likely he is the cop.

As soon as ritoky gets lynched, I'm going to rescind my claim and Kelsier isgoing to claim cop. No big deal

Sure, if ritoky flips mafia I don't care.

If ritoky flips cop I am never doing anything other than voting you this game.

if ritoky flips vanilla I quit mafia.
Computer says mafia
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