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On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.
This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch
How would you know for sure whether or not mafia thought VE was the SK?
We're just gonna have to disagree here because I thought VE was super scummy by the end of D2, and if I were in the position of mafia, knowing that VE cannot be mafia, I would have assumed VE was SK
Anyway, I admit it doesn't PROVE anything definitively because I also don't know for sure whether mafia knew VE was SK.
Sorry if I sound irritated, but instead of just trying to dismantle all my logic, why don't you tell me who YOU want to lynch if not coag?
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On December 25 2014 03:43 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.
This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch How would you know for sure whether or not mafia thought VE was the SK? We're just gonna have to disagree here because I thought VE was super scummy by the end of D2, and if I were in the position of mafia, knowing that VE cannot be mafia, I would have assumed VE was SK Anyway, I admit it doesn't PROVE anything definitively because I also don't know for sure whether mafia knew VE was SK. Sorry if I sound irritated, but instead of just trying to dismantle all my logic, why don't you tell me who YOU want to lynch if not coag?
He would rather lynch me see last page >.>
Sorry Damdred but I was having a mental break down last night because this was giving a lot of headaches and was very uncomfortable for me on my 4th game on TL Mafia trying to avoid a Mislynch or Lose T_T
I tried to prove to you I was town by making the case on you to show you I am willing to do anything to look town to you and I'm sorry I was irritated you last night 
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Honestly Damdred just because you didn't see that VE was scum doesn't mean the evidence wasn't in the thread. It's insulting to say that the VE flip was all luck. Can't you just admit that maybe me, LS, and/or kush saw something you didn't?
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I'm being shifty confirmed town today. Sorry.
I read over the coag thing. It's not bad persay, but I do agree with damdred.
I'd lynch LS too.
But seeing as Coag is more of a question mark than that of LS, im lynching coag
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On December 25 2014 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 03:43 sciberbia wrote:On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.
This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch How would you know for sure whether or not mafia thought VE was the SK? We're just gonna have to disagree here because I thought VE was super scummy by the end of D2, and if I were in the position of mafia, knowing that VE cannot be mafia, I would have assumed VE was SK Anyway, I admit it doesn't PROVE anything definitively because I also don't know for sure whether mafia knew VE was SK. Sorry if I sound irritated, but instead of just trying to dismantle all my logic, why don't you tell me who YOU want to lynch if not coag? He would rather lynch me see last page >.> Sorry Damdred but I was having a mental break down last night because this was giving a lot of headaches and was very uncomfortable for me on my 4th game on TL Mafia trying to avoid a Mislynch or Lose T_T I tried to prove to you I was town by making the case on you to show you I am willing to do anything to look town to you and I'm sorry I was irritated you last night
He voted you but he said he doesn't want to lynch you today. But he keeps arguing with my reasoning for voting coag so idk what he's trying to do here other than criticize my logic >_>
LS, if you were mafia, wouldn't you also be willing to do anything to look town? In fact, isn't mafia usually even more desperate to look town than townies?
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Firstly, we are working from different perspectives of term I believe. As VE wasn't scum he was an independent third party role that can only win by himself, hes anti-town but hes not in the scum category as only the mafia members are in that for me.
However, you are irritated with me trying to dismantle your logic but look what i'm saying about your case. Mafia have little to no clue who the SK is here, VE has a habit of saying things and looking scummy. VE was not playing to his scum meta over all, you are discounting Kush, LS when they could
1) be mafia who thought they were pushing a strong mislynch at the time.
2) could of thought someone else was the SK
Coag is just a policy lynch, and it is really over explained as such. It is a narrative that makes him look bad, but pushing off of VE is just as mafia minded as jumping on VE.
And obviously when I say we got pretty lucky, I don't mean that we got lucky that he flipped SK. I mean that we got lucky that he got caught when he did rather than later when he would of been harder to catch, not that your case was built on luck.
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On December 25 2014 03:59 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:On December 25 2014 03:43 sciberbia wrote:On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.
This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch How would you know for sure whether or not mafia thought VE was the SK? We're just gonna have to disagree here because I thought VE was super scummy by the end of D2, and if I were in the position of mafia, knowing that VE cannot be mafia, I would have assumed VE was SK Anyway, I admit it doesn't PROVE anything definitively because I also don't know for sure whether mafia knew VE was SK. Sorry if I sound irritated, but instead of just trying to dismantle all my logic, why don't you tell me who YOU want to lynch if not coag? He would rather lynch me see last page >.> Sorry Damdred but I was having a mental break down last night because this was giving a lot of headaches and was very uncomfortable for me on my 4th game on TL Mafia trying to avoid a Mislynch or Lose T_T I tried to prove to you I was town by making the case on you to show you I am willing to do anything to look town to you and I'm sorry I was irritated you last night He voted you but he said he doesn't want to lynch you today. But he keeps arguing with my reasoning for voting coag so idk what he's trying to do here other than criticize my logic >_> LS, if you were mafia, wouldn't you also be willing to do anything to look town? In fact, isn't mafia usually even more desperate to look town than townies?
I been trying to act townie this entire game and honestly I wasn't desperate until last night when me and Damdred went at it while I was in a mental breakdown from having this situation where sicklucker got himself mod killed and really screwing us over if he's town. I also initiated a no-lynch if it was possible that way we can take extra precautions incase we do get a mislynch and we can figure scum better if we had the option for a no-lynch but FF said T_T
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Either way next cycle if i'm alive we all need to start fresh and question everthing and go over every inch of the game. There can be no laziness and thankfully its the day after christmas that next cycle starts
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PEOPLE
LS IS OBVIOUS SCUM. ARE YOU LITERALLY RETARDED
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You aren't even voting for LS kush
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On December 25 2014 04:08 kushm4sta wrote:
PEOPLE
LS IS OBVIOUS SCUM. ARE YOU LITERALLY RETARDED
If I was obvious scum I would of been desperate at Day 2 when Breshke died from 27NB and wouldn't even try to lynch VE and in fact let him live and hope he would help me get rid of town and kill him in Lynch or Lose.
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I KNOW coag. I know that he would not still try that hard as scum in that unwinnable scenario, before we had a town modkilled.
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I could really see LS being scum or what not, i have to go to work i should be on before deadline. Everyone talk through the lynch again and see what we come up with.
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On December 25 2014 04:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 04:08 kushm4sta wrote:
PEOPLE
LS IS OBVIOUS SCUM. ARE YOU LITERALLY RETARDED If I was obvious scum I would of been desperate at Day 2 when Breshke died from 27NB and wouldn't even try to lynch VE and in fact let him live and hope he would help me get rid of town and kill him in Lynch or Lose.
This is a bad argument, scum didn't know for sure WHO SK was.
You thought I was the SK
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Vote count
Damdred (0): LightningStrike
kushm4sta (1): LightningStrike, Damdred, sciberbia, kushm4sta
Coagulation (3): LightningStrike, sciberbia, LightningStrike, 27ninjabunnies
sciberbia (1): Coagulation
LightningStrike (2): Damdred, Kushm4sta
Not voting (0):
Currently Coagulation is set to be lynched!
until deadline
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: LightningStrike voted Coagulation ( post) ERROR: sicklucker is not playing ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted Coagulation ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike voted kushm4sta ( post) VOTE: Damdred voted kushm4sta ( post) VOTE: sciberbia voted Kushm4sta (kushm4sta) ( post) VOTE: kushm4sta voted kushm4sta ( post) VOTE: sciberbia unvoted kushm4sta ( post) WARNING: Damdred changed vote without unvote ( post) VOTE: Damdred unvoted kushm4sta ( post) VOTE: Damdred voted LIghtningstrike (LightningStrike) ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted kushm4sta ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike voted Damdred ( post) VOTE: sciberbia voted Coagulation ( post) VOTE: Coagulation voted sciberbia ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted Damdred ( post) VOTE: LightningStrike voted Coagulation ( post) VOTE: 27NinjaBunnies voted Coagulation ( post) VOTE:Kushm4sta voted LightningStrike ( post)
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On December 25 2014 04:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2014 04:08 kushm4sta wrote:
PEOPLE
LS IS OBVIOUS SCUM. ARE YOU LITERALLY RETARDED If I was obvious scum I would of been desperate at Day 2 when Breshke died from 27NB and wouldn't even try to lynch VE and in fact let him live and hope he would help me get rid of town and kill him in Lynch or Lose.
THAT IS A LOAD OF WIFOM
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Honestly why did Scum did not kill Damdred if Damdred claimed medic at Night 3 that is the real question here. If I was scum and saw his claim of medic when he said he tried to save Palmar I Would of killed him instead of Palmar but that just me that's all.
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LS, maybe because scum thought they had to mislynch someone other than me and coag to survive, and they were counting on damdred?
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On December 25 2014 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Firstly, we are working from different perspectives of term I believe. As VE wasn't scum he was an independent third party role that can only win by himself, hes anti-town but hes not in the scum category as only the mafia members are in that for me.
However, you are irritated with me trying to dismantle your logic but look what i'm saying about your case. Mafia have little to no clue who the SK is here, VE has a habit of saying things and looking scummy. VE was not playing to his scum meta over all, you are discounting Kush, LS when they could
1) be mafia who thought they were pushing a strong mislynch at the time.
2) could of thought someone else was the SK
Coag is just a policy lynch, and it is really over explained as such. It is a narrative that makes him look bad, but pushing off of VE is just as mafia minded as jumping on VE.
And obviously when I say we got pretty lucky, I don't mean that we got lucky that he flipped SK. I mean that we got lucky that he got caught when he did rather than later when he would of been harder to catch, not that your case was built on luck.
OK look I'm meeting you halfway. I concede it is possible LS or Kush is scum and thought they were pushing a mislynch in which case this is all irrelevant. However it is also possible that everyone but you thought VE was anti-town, which would make Coag the most likely mafia. So fine it's not hard solid evidence but it is something.
I agree that it's basically a policy lynch and that I didn't write a 'case' for Coag being scum. I just described what I think are plausible mafia motivations for his play, since Kush is trying to argue that Coag can't be mafia and I disagree.
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