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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 24 2014 03:08 GMT
#1761
aww ls is trying so hard. can't you guys just let him win?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 03:10 GMT
#1762
Kush you are mocking me -.- I am really town and I can't convince you two but Scip got a town read on me and so does 27NB so oh well.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 24 2014 03:13 GMT
#1763
ls but from perspective you have to be scum.
cause i doubt coag is scum or he would have just given up.
and I know I'm not scum.
and scrib wrote that case which makes him not scum
and nb vigged that dude
and damdred is blue right
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 03:14 GMT
#1764
On December 24 2014 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:
ls but from perspective you have to be scum.
cause i doubt coag is scum or he would have just given up.
and I know I'm not scum.
and scrib wrote that case which makes him not scum
and nb vigged that dude
and damdred is blue right

I not scum are you not entertained?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 24 2014 03:17 GMT
#1765
just tell me and show me how you have been town this game quote yourself if you have to.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 03:42 GMT
#1766
I tried to push my own reads and made a tiny case on kush because Palmar pressured me hard early on and I made my read on kush although ironically 27NB said the same thing as I did on Kush although people didn't like my case and opted for the meta case on Marv I kept my vote there until you guys told me he claimed scum and I asked where he did claimed scum and changed my vote when I saw the claim of scum by you guys. I then tried help find Scum in Day 2 and in fact I supported Scips case to fullest and as seen here
On December 22 2014 01:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Scib I not moving on the Damdred train and rather go for VE so you can count on my support for your case.

Also earlier I asked about doing a no lynch after sicklucker got modkilled as seen here
On December 24 2014 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 23:55 sciberbia wrote:
On December 23 2014 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2014 23:40 sciberbia wrote:
On December 23 2014 23:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2014 23:15 sciberbia wrote:
##Unvote

I think we should slow down a bit. Given the modkill, if we mislynch today, we will only have 4 players left tomorrow and it will be LYLO. If LightningStrike or Damdred is the last scum, we need to figure this out ideally today.

On December 23 2014 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways guys let's go the lynch on kush and we will be going to coag next!

@LS
The way you phrased that makes it look like you think kush will flip town? We wouldn't necessarily be going on to coag next if kush flips scum, right?


It's always possible on kush but I think kush is scum atm I know it was phrased weird but what I was trying to say is that if Kush ends up as town we go to Coag next that's all.

So what makes you so certain that Damdred and I are town?

For example, yesterday you thought Damdred was scum, but then you agreed with me that Damdred looks better after the SK flip. What was your reasoning for that?

I know other people have already addressed these questions, but I would like to hear it from you.

Your RB claim was genuine I felt and you were activly solving the game. Damdred looked better after the SK flip because there was no possible counter claim to his blue claim whether he was medic or vet although I found it odd he would claim vet first but I can see claiming vet would let the scum go for other people. Also afterhe claimed medic he later got RB'd or so he claims but I can see that happening. Also you suggesting let's sleep and no lynch today?


No I don't think that we are allowed to no lynch. It says in the OP that voting is mandatory and whoever gets the most votes gets lynched.

I'm just saying that we should have a bit of discussion before deciding who to lynch since it can't hurt. Maybe we can find something we missed and further our knowledge of the alignments of the remaining players.


Regarding Damdred, there was never any counterclaim to his blue claim. So what about the SK flip makes Damdred town in your mind? If VE had flipped town or mafia, would you think that Damdred is scum?


We can vote for a no lynch it's legal to do that as far as I aware. If VE had flipped Scum Damdred would of been the SK in my mind with his Vet claim who could of ued the extra life.
Can we vote for a no lynch?

The only reason why I would ask for a no lynch was so we can recollect ourselves and start on our process of elimination because findout sickluckers alignment will be the key in my mind who is really scum but I confused as hell because if we mislynched today we for in a Mislynch or Lose which is something I don't think anyone wants to do here. This is my case of me being town and I will rest my case of me being town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 24 2014 03:57 GMT
#1767
the day/night cycle will continue unaltered.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 24 2014 05:22 GMT
#1768
Alrighty listen up.

I did some rereading, and if we were to discount the medic claim, my two best scum reads would be damdred and coag. There are several good reasons for this, perhaps the biggest is that they both fought against getting VE lynched. I think my case on VE was really really good, and kush and LS read it and sheeped it without question. I think that anyone who actually read the cases should have realized VE was likely scum. As several people have brought up already, the mafia probably did not want the SK to get lynched.

Therefore, LS and kush who pushed VE alongside me look good, whereas damdred and coag who just kind of wishy washily disagreed with it look suspect.

Damdred however is un-counterclaimed for third blue, and lacking a counterclaim it seems unlikely he is scum. Coag on the other hand has basically left the game. Here's what I think Coag's thought process might have been:
  • I need the SK to not get lynched so he can shoot all the townies and win the game for me
  • Shit SK got lynched, so I guess I'm going to lose
  • Wait lmao some people think I'm town because they think I should have conceded already
  • So, I'll just literally not do anything and maybe they won't lynch me. Wouldn't that be hilarious?


Really there's no good reason to think that Coag has to be town here. He's not putting in any effort and hasn't even voted yet today. He might just be lurking and laughing at us while we tear ourselves to pieces. Fuck that I'm not losing to scum Coag. I say we lynch Coag today.

##Vote: Coagulation



Now if Coag flips scum, gg and merry christmas!

If either Coag or Sicklucker flip blue, we are lynching Damdred no questions asked. I know they both claimed VT at some point, but honestly I don't completely trust either of them a town not to be doing something dumb.

If they both flip VT, then Damdred is pretty much confirmed because I trust that either LS or kush would have counterclaimed if they were blue. In that case, we go into LYLO tomorrow but at least we have 4 active players, 1 of which is pretty much confirmed town, and we can work it out from there.

What do you guys think of my plan?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 24 2014 06:24 GMT
#1769
it blows
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 24 2014 07:04 GMT
#1770
Well, honestly coag is a question mark. However what you say doesn't make him mafia nor does it clear you ls etc., for voting ve as mafia doesn't know who the SK is and thread sentiment was I was the SK at the time.which opens up another can of worms
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 24 2014 07:26 GMT
#1771
On December 24 2014 16:04 Damdred wrote:
Well, honestly coag is a question mark. However what you say doesn't make him mafia nor does it clear you ls etc., for voting ve as mafia doesn't know who the SK is and thread sentiment was I was the SK at the time.which opens up another can of worms


idk man obviously if you're town then you disagree, but I thought the evidence in the thread was really really damning against VE. I only thought you were SK because I thought VE was mafia due to his interactions regarding marv D1. Mafia would obviously know that VE is not mafia and therefore he would have to be SK. I'm not saying it 'clears' anybody but it's a substantial piece of evidence to consider.

Another reason in favor of coag being scum is marv rolling over and dying on D1. Maybe if marv's teammates had been trying a little harder he would have himself put more effort in.

I can't 'prove' he is scum the same way I think I more-or-less proved VE was scum, but that's not surprising given how much less material I have to work with here. I just think he's our best chance at flipping red, and it also wouldn't be the worst mislynch in the world if he flips town.

Who would you rather lynch instead?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 24 2014 07:36 GMT
#1772
Honestly doesn't matter the scum team Marv hates being scum just can't be bothered.

VE actually didn't play that badly as SK we got pretty lucky, and he got a bit unlucky. I do think there was a good bit of talk I was SK and mafia when you were making your case had me pegged that way. I still have to check filters during that time meh.

And no we can't go into mylo with two huge no content people. Ls has a decent shot at mafia probably not voting him out today
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 13:44 GMT
#1773
On December 24 2014 14:22 sciberbia wrote:
Alrighty listen up.

I did some rereading, and if we were to discount the medic claim, my two best scum reads would be damdred and coag. There are several good reasons for this, perhaps the biggest is that they both fought against getting VE lynched. I think my case on VE was really really good, and kush and LS read it and sheeped it without question. I think that anyone who actually read the cases should have realized VE was likely scum. As several people have brought up already, the mafia probably did not want the SK to get lynched.

Therefore, LS and kush who pushed VE alongside me look good, whereas damdred and coag who just kind of wishy washily disagreed with it look suspect.

Damdred however is un-counterclaimed for third blue, and lacking a counterclaim it seems unlikely he is scum. Coag on the other hand has basically left the game. Here's what I think Coag's thought process might have been:
  • I need the SK to not get lynched so he can shoot all the townies and win the game for me
  • Shit SK got lynched, so I guess I'm going to lose
  • Wait lmao some people think I'm town because they think I should have conceded already
  • So, I'll just literally not do anything and maybe they won't lynch me. Wouldn't that be hilarious?


Really there's no good reason to think that Coag has to be town here. He's not putting in any effort and hasn't even voted yet today. He might just be lurking and laughing at us while we tear ourselves to pieces. Fuck that I'm not losing to scum Coag. I say we lynch Coag today.

##Vote: Coagulation



Now if Coag flips scum, gg and merry christmas!

If either Coag or Sicklucker flip blue, we are lynching Damdred no questions asked. I know they both claimed VT at some point, but honestly I don't completely trust either of them a town not to be doing something dumb.

If they both flip VT, then Damdred is pretty much confirmed because I trust that either LS or kush would have counterclaimed if they were blue. In that case, we go into LYLO tomorrow but at least we have 4 active players, 1 of which is pretty much confirmed town, and we can work it out from there.

What do you guys think of my plan?

I think this is the best plan for now and I don't think any of us want Coag in Mislynch or Lose anyways since he is like a brick wall.
##Unvote
##Vote: Coagulation
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
December 24 2014 14:40 GMT
#1774
Vote count


Damdred (0): LightningStrike
kushm4sta (1): LightningStrike, Damdred, sciberbia, kushm4sta
Coagulation (2): LightningStrike, sciberbia, LightningStrike
sciberbia (1): Coagulation
LightningStrike (1): Damdred

Not voting (1): 27ninjabunnies

Currently Coagulation is set to be lynched!
until deadline



+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: LightningStrike voted Coagulation (post)
ERROR: sicklucker is not playing (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted Coagulation (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike voted kushm4sta (post)
VOTE: Damdred voted kushm4sta (post)
VOTE: sciberbia voted Kushm4sta (kushm4sta) (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted kushm4sta (post)
VOTE: sciberbia unvoted kushm4sta (post)
WARNING: Damdred changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: Damdred unvoted kushm4sta (post)
VOTE: Damdred voted LIghtningstrike (LightningStrike) (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted kushm4sta (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike voted Damdred (post)
VOTE: sciberbia voted Coagulation (post)
VOTE: Coagulation voted sciberbia (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike unvoted Damdred (post)
VOTE: LightningStrike voted Coagulation (post)
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 24 2014 16:07 GMT
#1775
So today I would not lynch Dam, Scib.

I would however lynch LS, Kush, and Coag.

Also, sorry I haven't been here. Real life got in the way, and I've had a bit of trouble the last couple of days.

Also, why is Kush voting himself?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 16:10 GMT
#1776
On December 25 2014 01:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So today I would not lynch Dam, Scib.

I would however lynch LS, Kush, and Coag.

Also, sorry I haven't been here. Real life got in the way, and I've had a bit of trouble the last couple of days.

Also, why is Kush voting himself?

He put himself in his onw lynch list and I still confused as hell about it. I might just put it as the most WTF Moment of 2014 awards.
Also did you read Scip's case on Coag? If you did what you think of it?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 24 2014 16:51 GMT
#1777
ok well gl town

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 24 2014 18:31 GMT
#1778
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.

This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 24 2014 18:37 GMT
#1779
On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.

This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch

I thought VE was scum not SK when I road the case to be honest with you and honestly you got to admit that case on VE was pretty damn good although he was SK not scum but still it was a good case.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 24 2014 18:41 GMT
#1780
mafia would know that VE wasn't scum,most of the thread thought that I was the SK at the time. No reason for mafia not to make the case or push the case or help it along.

The whole thing is a pretty narrative but it doesn't prove anything nor does it really have merits that make coag scum here he is just an overeplained policy lynch at this moment.
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