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TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells

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sicklucker
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December 04 2014 15:00 GMT
#17
/in
sicklucker
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December 04 2014 17:01 GMT
#29
Whats a hydra anyway
sicklucker
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December 07 2014 09:46 GMT
#110
Aids mafia. That site looks horrible racist and homophobic ;p
sicklucker
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December 07 2014 10:43 GMT
#114
I amuse it just a joke but it looks rly bad for someone glancing over the site. Their are racist websites out their sir, I felt like I was visiting the kkk homepage
sicklucker
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December 07 2014 10:51 GMT
#116
People who correct spelling on the internet are scum
sicklucker
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December 07 2014 20:44 GMT
#138
200, word essay? Like I never went to college but I think I did those in grade 3 thats not alot of words.
sicklucker
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December 08 2014 20:01 GMT
#224
The exitement THE HYPE
sicklucker
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December 08 2014 20:02 GMT
#225
The_Templar already 3 page filter mod kill plz
sicklucker
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December 08 2014 20:50 GMT
#231
On December 09 2014 05:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 05:02 sicklucker wrote:
The_Templar already 3 page filter mod kill plz

2 pages you mafia


dAMMIT
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 00:22 GMT
#381
Guys Christmas is a time for giving.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#406
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all


Na fecal does not try like at all. That day one was an anomoly
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 00:38 GMT
#412
On December 09 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you town? Can I call you town?
Can you give me prezents? I'd love prezents.



I love presents.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 00:52 GMT
#432
Im pretty tired now but im full of Joy that it is Christmas time.



sicklucker
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December 09 2014 00:54 GMT
#435
I would not worry too much about ff. He will appear to not be in this game. Like a ghost you would say.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 01:11 GMT
#460
Glowing Bear im very disappointed in you my child.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 01:25 GMT
#480
My naught list - FF hes very mean

My nice list! - Kelsier, dandred , gb
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 01:31 GMT
#486
No. Dont believe anything the evil ff says about me. Hes been trying to policy lynch me for 3 straight games.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 01:40 GMT
#497
Guys Christmas is a time for giving.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:36 GMT
#533
On December 09 2014 11:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.

I was just about to say, he's usually a lot more annoying as town.


Just you wait. My last post was a double post it was a mistake. What I want to know is how do you know about the presents ;p
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:48 GMT
#548
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:51 GMT
#552
Anyway I should be able to confirm myself as town by telling you who ill send a present to if your all dumb enough to vote me.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:54 GMT
#557
On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.

I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.


Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:56 GMT
#559
On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/

sicklucker
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December 09 2014 02:57 GMT
#560
On December 09 2014 11:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.

I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.


Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up.

So a named vt....


Why would you name it if not to give it a special ability?
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:00 GMT
#564
Sad part? I just cracked the system plebian
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:01 GMT
#566
Also Gb didnt get my child reference HE IS NOT OF THE CHILDREN. i need to stop spamming small posts for there is a limit
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:10 GMT
#578
On December 09 2014 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
Please nobody else out their roles. The other vt is to stop mafia being op because they can have some vt killing gun like last palmar game


I agree but my fishing was going to get me lynched =[. Now that the cats out of the bag is it better to give the present to someone im town reading or scum reading !
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:13 GMT
#580
Also I totally town read holy for saying that
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:19 GMT
#590
@kitaman27 this is my first complex mafia game. I had no idea they had random different names for vt for no reason. My conclusion was logical not knowing this. I didnt lie but I was totally trying to scare the hell out of mafia that I knew things I shouldnt.

Cant I simply have not read one line in a very long op?
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:26 GMT
#596
On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/


And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child...


TOO LONG DIDNT READ.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 03:26 GMT
#597
aLSO ya wtf lynch templar
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:12 GMT
#790
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get mwore posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


I DID EXACTLY THIS. I dont think hes reading the thread boys. Let me catch up. I was about to say peoples early case on me was pretty good because of my meta and how I was playing but hes still voting for me so...
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:20 GMT
#803
On December 09 2014 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.
HTS - meta

##vote: LightningStrike

I did also play with Slam 1 game when he was scum too that why I basing my reads on him being town from that game and on Titanic and the shenanigans sicklucker normally does isn't the type he doing atm.


Slam was literally. afk that whole game for real life issues. (both slam mafia games happened at the same time and he was double mod killed. But he was their for the start of the other one
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:24 GMT
#807
On December 09 2014 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.

The shenanigans this game might just be him doing something different from the shenanigans he did in the last 2 games I played with him (Campus and Student) so it could be off because of that.


In game one we didnt even play together I was replaced day two and you were already dead. Also in that game I missed day one and your talking about day 1 meta.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:27 GMT
#811
On December 09 2014 22:58 kushm4sta wrote:
HTS why would scum fake claim my role?
Would you be able to verify my role?

You should be trying to answer those questions before scumreading me.


Your probably not but if anyones doing a suicidal claim its you. You hate playing mafia more then anyone here.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:29 GMT
#813
Veg Kill lian he wouldnt use the same meta two games inarow. But that meta favors his mafia play
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:41 GMT
#825
On December 10 2014 00:21 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT.

Bye.


Do you guys think the mafia gets the kill present to start off with and the towns get the other two? Because thats how I think it is im skeptical of this ITS A TARP

I think im going to bury hts after I work out if the evidence is there. I soul read her as town before in her first post and im not feeling it this time.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:46 GMT
#833
On December 10 2014 00:35 liancourt wrote:
9 sicklucker wrote:
Veg Kill lian he wouldnt use the same meta two games inarow. But that meta favors his mafia play
[/B]

This doesnt even make sense

How does using the douchebag being a dick meta favor mafia play?[/QUOTE]

I think and have been kind of told your changing your meta everygame to try to be cute.

Game 1 you were mafia you were very helpful and seemed town (hearstone mafia i think?)
Game 2 you were town and tried to make yourself obvious mafia by being a useless jerk. It worked you got town read (titanic)
Game 3 I see you doing the same thing as game 2 with an excuse to do it because you did it last game very convenient.

Anyway Its not a strong case but I like it I would shoot you in the throat.

sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:48 GMT
#835
You dont have to explain your reads. For example when asked last game you said something like "no f off"
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 15:52 GMT
#838
Also Gb just said hes a role for no reason. Wtf man do not open that present.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#848
Ok I just sent my gift now to someone im sure is town and not going to get killed tonight. Open it if you think im town its not the death present I think. I think a mafia starts with that one but im not sure.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#849
On December 10 2014 00:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb just said hes a role for no reason. Wtf man do not open that present.

As a present owner. You should know that you don't know what present you hold.

So why did you think that Gb his present is bad?


actually Ya your right Presents are completely random so I retract that.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 16:25 GMT
#855
On December 10 2014 01:08 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok now tubesock is doing useless setup speculation.
I had so much faith.


I was trying to get Sicklucker to read the gift mechanic better and realize that the presents are random and he's focusing on the wrong thing.

Apparently, so am I. Ugh.



Ya your the reason Im confused tbh
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 16:28 GMT
#857
On December 10 2014 01:10 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 01:02 sicklucker wrote:
Ok I just sent my gift now to someone im sure is town and not going to get killed tonight. Open it if you think im town its not the death present I think. I think a mafia starts with that one but im not sure.


No one knows wats in them.

how would that person know the present was from u

why are u speculatjng things that are irrevelant to gameplay?

Presents dont mean a thing and its not alignment indicative.

why are u trying to make it so that gifting apresent means ur town because it doesnt
Found another scum


The person who I sent it to totally knows its from me. same with the person gb sent it to because we sent them at different times.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 16:57 GMT
#864
Ls said something that makes me not want to lynch him atm.
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 18:11 GMT
#891
If trfel doesint come in and make a 10 page meta read on someone hes never played with we should be suspicious. (tryhard)
sicklucker
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December 09 2014 23:25 GMT
#966
Holy poop. FF actually did reads for the first time in three games. He might be mafia. I was mafia against him in my last game and I didnt know if he was hammering me out or not untill lylo.
sicklucker
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December 10 2014 02:51 GMT
#1127
So I hope we just all town read Tubesock and take what he says with a grain of salt because its his first game. Reading new players as town is really easy.
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December 10 2014 21:03 GMT
#1333
Its not even a claim really its a useless role
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December 10 2014 21:10 GMT
#1336
Like if it wAsint for that carol singer post I might be scared here. Like who randomly posts a video of themself carol singing it was a claim. Shes mafia back tracking.
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December 10 2014 21:11 GMT
#1337
She knew the carol singer claim was bad and instantly regretted it. A carol singer can counter claim and its a free mafia for us.
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December 10 2014 22:08 GMT
#1382
Whens deadline. I thought It already passed. I sapose its 20 minutes 24 hours from when we started? What bunnies said about me just makes me want to lynch her more. I dont have to bury her as mafia shes already dead by a landslide.
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December 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#1394
Anyway that videos not even recent its from 2013. Its too big of a coincidence when you add in that she fake claimed an important role to deter votes. Then claimed a potential 3rd role that is never not a reason to vote someone out.
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December 10 2014 22:26 GMT
#1402
I think the kush thing will sort itself out tonight. I dont think mafia can ignore him if hes town. So if hes alive id be very worried.
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December 10 2014 22:30 GMT
#1409
I just dont see the mafia motivation. The real scrooge is never going to cc. Hes either trying to take attention from the real scrooge or being a dolt hes town.
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December 10 2014 23:11 GMT
#1426
The cry defense never works.
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December 10 2014 23:13 GMT
#1428
Like no dont shoot kush yet. Save your second bullit for him if anything. There is a decent chance he really is scrooge and mafia kills him.
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December 10 2014 23:15 GMT
#1430
Shoot ff for suggesting it.
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December 11 2014 18:13 GMT
#1542
On December 12 2014 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
dude why would you shoot me. jacob marely is going to visit me or whatever then im going to die.


This dont shoot kush its a waste of a bullet. And I believe him sadly
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December 11 2014 18:26 GMT
#1545
So How come no one sent me a present? Im like the leading confirmed vanilla town whos never going to get night killed. Im like the perfect gunny pig to open dat shit. So salty
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December 11 2014 18:59 GMT
#1549
My reads suck tbh been sick and this thread is too long to reread atm. Too many players and first time people im playing against. Its a clusterfawk but it will sort itself out. Probably in the great blood bath of December 11th
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December 11 2014 19:15 GMT
#1551
What really worrys me is people suggesting the veg to make horrible plays. Thats totally what I would do as mafia. You dont shoot potential roles like Ls or kush. You wait for mafia to sort them out and use their kp on them. We know in a few hours if kush is scooge because he will or wont be dead. So why not get this information first why waste a valuable veg bullet?

I would shoot out of the three guys who suggested this horrible plan. I believe ff was one of them hint hint.
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December 11 2014 19:20 GMT
#1553
Like FF's not making his usual emo. Im so bad at this game im going to lose this game for town because I lost interest that hes been making as town for his last 3 games. I think hes an amazing shot. He only threatened to policy lynch me once.
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December 11 2014 19:27 GMT
#1556
On December 12 2014 04:13 kitaman27 wrote:
If anyone is interested in my preferred vig shot right now, I'd still go with FF.

Wouldn't be upset to see kush go either I suppose, though I can't really speak much to his alignment.

Just finished re-reading the thread. I gotta go work for a couple hours and then I'll post after reading individual filters.



NO stop suggesting this people we dont know how competent are veg is hes a second bullet target not a first. Theres like 100% chance hes visted by that dude and will die if hes really scrooge making it useless.
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December 11 2014 19:29 GMT
#1557
On December 12 2014 04:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm completely chilled knowing I'll be one of the NKs in lack of other people being townread so broadly.
Totes not being cocky.

However Arnie should simply shoot people you just skip by while reading cause they write gibberish or are too annoying to read, since they will never get lynched unless by policy and policy lynches don't work.


I really doubt it. Besides their gonna be role hunting. People have already slipped their roles and if their not dead im hunting them
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December 11 2014 19:53 GMT
#1560
On December 12 2014 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 04:27 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 04:13 kitaman27 wrote:
If anyone is interested in my preferred vig shot right now, I'd still go with FF.

Wouldn't be upset to see kush go either I suppose, though I can't really speak much to his alignment.

Just finished re-reading the thread. I gotta go work for a couple hours and then I'll post after reading individual filters.



NO stop suggesting this people we dont know how competent are veg is hes a second bullet target not a first. Theres like 100% chance hes visted by that dude and will die if hes really scrooge making it useless.


Stop making me wanting to rescind my town read on you


Id like to say because im smart but this is obvious stuff. Gb do you think we should shoot kush too? I fine this interesting because I would probably shoot you tonight If I was veg
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December 11 2014 21:11 GMT
#1568
Gb dont act like your not the one who gave it to ritoky
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December 11 2014 21:17 GMT
#1569
Oh I think I know what role ritoky is
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December 11 2014 22:04 GMT
#1572
This im not helping mafia...
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December 11 2014 23:22 GMT
#1605
Shit this is horrible I can confirm I sent dandred a present and thats probably why hes dead..
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December 11 2014 23:23 GMT
#1606
On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T


Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious.
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December 11 2014 23:25 GMT
#1607
On December 12 2014 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:
It was obviously the vigi who shot kush btw.
Just saying.


I really hope not... Like I pleaded for this not to happen because kush is obviously this bad at the game
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December 11 2014 23:29 GMT
#1611
This is what I think happened to clear things up.

Mafia killed Koshi kitman lonemoew. With their 2 kp + mass murderer bullet role hunting.

Kush was killed by marley

Damdred opened my present RIP.

Are veg didnt shoot or was a moron and shot kush.
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December 11 2014 23:32 GMT
#1614
On December 12 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T


Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious.

I am Ghost of Christmas Present as my role T_T Unless there is a second Scrooge my role is useless as crap except for voting. Also judging from the kills it seems like they got the Branch Manager and Mass Murderer in their scum roles.


Ok I believe you but town should counter claim this since you were super defensive you were a role when votes started going your way and this role is not important.
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December 11 2014 23:34 GMT
#1615
On December 12 2014 08:30 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm wondering if mass claiming day2 is a good idea.


Its def not but he already said he was a "useless not role" So a ghost and since he looked horrible yesterday we may as well confirm him.
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December 11 2014 23:36 GMT
#1618
Its very likely we dont have a veg guys. Sign and If we do he just wasted a bullet anyway
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December 11 2014 23:37 GMT
#1620
On December 12 2014 08:34 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T


well since scrooge is dead the 3 ghosts claiming isn't a bad idea

they're practically just named VT now


Na the only thing we have going for us right now is santa. Lets not make it more easy for mafia to find him.
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December 11 2014 23:51 GMT
#1626
ritoky you should probably fill us in on the wonders of your present since if we dont kill you mafia sure will.
Its possible someone could have killed with the present last night but I dont think that is the case since I know I sent one to dandred. But I dont think that is the case. I think one present is in mafias hands.
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December 11 2014 23:54 GMT
#1627
On December 12 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
I'm incredibly disappointed with the vigi if we do because he shot absolutely nobody that was a good shot. Not one of ff, ritoky etc died even though like 4 vets called them mafia -.-

Not sure what i think of the present opening tbh. It would have been great to give them to all the scummy people and forced them to open them/use them to our will :/

2 biggest proponents of a ff lynch also died which is cool, especially as lm was in the shadows while doing it so didn't look like a high priority kill


I thought the pros outweigh the cons and we should give all presents to vanilla towns like I did. Apparently no one else agreed as scummy people like ritoky ended up with them and the most obvious vt who wants to take a bullet for the team didnt get one.
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December 12 2014 00:02 GMT
#1631
On December 12 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Who was masoned with kita?

Time to claim.


Like I thought that was ritokys role because only another mason would give this man a present..

Why should they claim tho... Like do you want mafia to kill poor santa?
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December 12 2014 00:53 GMT
#1654
Wait is tube making a really weak case on me?
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December 12 2014 01:00 GMT
#1663
[B]##vote ritoky[B/] tell us the wonders of the present because based on the night actions its probably a role check and I dont get why you dont tell us.
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December 12 2014 01:03 GMT
#1668
Wait tube what? are you seriously blaming me for dandreds death? I sent my gift to my strongest town read who was also a useless vannila town whats wrong with that? Also I been scum reading gb your case is pretty bad.
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December 12 2014 01:04 GMT
#1669
I just dont see any scenario where ritoky didnt use his present last night (esp after he claimed he had one for no reason) Its very suspicious to me im looking for scum.
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December 12 2014 01:12 GMT
#1674
On December 12 2014 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 12 2014 10:04 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont see any scenario where ritoky didnt use his present last night (esp after he claimed he had one for no reason) Its very suspicious to me im looking for scum.


If he used the present he can't use the power till the next night...


Then why claim? This is why im pressuring. Im not looking for the third present whos smart enough to keep that a secret which is what ritoky should have done. Im asking why the suspicious guy claimed for no reason.
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December 12 2014 01:14 GMT
#1677
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.
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December 12 2014 01:18 GMT
#1679
Ok I read your reason and its really bad. And ive explain why im like 90%+ certain the death present is already gone meaning your not going to die if you open it. Your more valuable then are veg and maybe medic.
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December 12 2014 01:19 GMT
#1681
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


This like I feel only someone who knows his alignment would give him one.... He was a top scum
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December 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#1705
On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.


Do we even know theirs mafia? because I sure the hell dont would love to kbow too.
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December 12 2014 01:50 GMT
#1711
do we even know theres 5 mafia?
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December 12 2014 01:55 GMT
#1714
rsoultin King of saying this ive already said and looking smart
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December 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#1725
On December 12 2014 10:59 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 12 2014 10:50 sicklucker wrote:
do we even know theres 5 mafia?


Unless I misunderstood the rules, I didn't think we had our hands on a hard number for sure.


Ya I thought so too, and someone said theres 5 and I hate scum slips but it kinda seemed like one which is why im asking...
Also im gonna go over my limit pretty fast.
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December 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#1727
On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.

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December 12 2014 02:06 GMT
#1728
On December 12 2014 11:03 ritoky wrote:
aaaaaannnnd sicklucker and rsoultin still ignoring the post where i already explained it


No I said your excuse was really bad and I told you the death present has already been used so its even worse.
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December 12 2014 02:09 GMT
#1731
Well I cant logically vote ritoky hes a potential role who mafia should kill if hes town.

##vote Tubesock Scumslip?
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December 12 2014 02:24 GMT
#1741
On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:
Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully.

I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though...

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On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.

5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote


I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game...
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December 12 2014 02:47 GMT
#1753
On December 12 2014 11:38 ritoky wrote:
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On December 12 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
Game before that then. Obviously not a game where what I say isn't what's happening -.-

I already explained how it's not the same at all. Your point 2 i already explained means nothing because I do it as town and literally gave an example which you just dismissed to talk about me being angry and this game I'm restricted to 4 pages max a cycle which makes gameplay totally different. If your meta doesn't carry over at all its not an alignment indicative meta. I don't understand how you can continue to push/believe this at all when presented with overwhelming evidence from not only me but multiple people saying otherwise unless you are mafia.

It feels like what you quoted of me doing to obi in that mafia game is what you're trying and failing to do to me. You have something that looks scummy to you and you stick to it like a dog as your only proper read because it looks like you're contributing etc.

All I can say is that you're pushing the wrong guy and I suggest you try and contribute elsewhere as people I'm sure are absolutely sick of you pressing the same meta and if they agreed they would have already said so. Do something else with you limited post counts because all your reasoning is out there now and you are wasting mine quite successfully.


? i have pushed on LS until he was basically obvious town, was the main proponent of the FF lynch which i believe you like for at least a portion of the reasons i brought to the table, and i pushed on kels lightly although he is my weakest scum read atm before you. so idk what you're talking about it being the only thing i am doing.

if i am not lynching you, i still don't see a reason not to lynch ff, i wouldn't mind a lynch on kels, and i think SL may have scum slipped by claiming that he KNEW FOR CERTAIN that damdred died via present and not being shot. i also don't know what to make of him and gb coming out and trying to dominate the phase and drive it toward me early on, but that's probably gut OMGUS reaction.

also posting this for myself and others for later:

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On December 11 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
Finished Counting For Today

ritoky (1): kushm4sta
27ninjabunnies (11): The_Templar, Holyflare, batsnacks, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Koshi, Xatalos, Tubesock, Trfel, Fecalfeast
The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
GlowingBear (1): Damdred
Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (3): 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Xatalos (3): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, rsoultin
froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky

Not Voting (0):

27ninjabunnies was lynched!




Like your not this bad? I said im 90% sure because I sent him the present and their was no other reason for him to die (he claimed vt mafia would be role hunting) Damdred either died from a present or was veg shot which seems unlikely. My logic checks.

Now one thing I want to bring up is a real actual damming scum slip just happened and you both ignored it while you had your annoying fight I dont care about. It reminds me of the fight between hopeless and holyflare where I was mafia and licking my chops.Thoughts? on the real scum slip?
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December 12 2014 02:51 GMT
#1756
Like I dont have to or want to defend kelsier. Hes not really anyones top lynch I think your the only one pushing him. Who are the 5? Your scum mates?
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December 12 2014 02:52 GMT
#1758
And holy. ritoky is basically an uncced veg/cop with 1 bullet or check. Why are you voting him? Your looking more scummy then him for doing it.
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December 12 2014 02:54 GMT
#1760
Like ritokys gonna sort himself out in the night. Just treat him like we were gonna vote him out and claimed cop. We cant vote him out. He can prove hes town tomorrow. If he does notill be the first to vote him.
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December 12 2014 02:59 GMT
#1764
Lol a rolecheck is useless if hes mafia thats probably why he claimed to confuse us. They have like 3 kp. We need his kp to win the game.
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December 12 2014 03:00 GMT
#1768
On December 12 2014 11:59 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 12 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
Like ritokys gonna sort himself out in the night. Just treat him like we were gonna vote him out and claimed cop. We cant vote him out. He can prove hes town tomorrow. If he does notill be the first to vote him.


Lol, you were fine with killing Kush (via vig) but not Ritoky when they've basically done the same thing? Typical nonsensical SL.


no I was number 1 against it. Way to show your observation skills. And screw you
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December 12 2014 03:02 GMT
#1771
On December 12 2014 11:59 ritoky wrote:
wtf are you saying SL? like....if you think i am mafia you should totally have hf's perspective. so either you think i am null/town or you're making literal 0 sense.


Dude your the equivalent of a un cced veg to me. We dont kill un cced veggies.
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December 12 2014 03:05 GMT
#1772
The_Templar is the only one making any sense right now and hes sheeping me. Im really scared of all of you.
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December 12 2014 03:11 GMT
#1777
On December 12 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 11:59 ritoky wrote:
wtf are you saying SL? like....if you think i am mafia you should totally have hf's perspective. so either you think i am null/town or you're making literal 0 sense.


Dude your the equivalent of a un cced veg to me. We dont kill un cced veggies.


I don't get how you go from voting ritoky because you think he's mafia and opening presents was dumb to saying he's like an unclaimed vig??


That was a 5 minute after eon reactionary vote because he did the same donkey move kush did. I came to my senses you dont vote this man out were not in lylo. He could be a great asset or mafia will kill him for us both are better then wasting a lynch on him now.
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December 12 2014 03:13 GMT
#1780
rsoultin literally you insult me in every other post in both are games. Its not helping town. I wont ever mention this again. If im right your just giving mafia fuel to discredit me, which is what they might be doing.
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December 12 2014 03:20 GMT
#1784
On December 12 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
No that's dumb because you don't include the part where he could be mafia AND GIVE THEM AN EXTRA KP OR A CHANCE TO SNIPE ROLES.

I'd agree if he looked towny. He doesn't at all.


That would be even better. We would hit a for sure mafia tomorrow(him) and hopefully one today! We should set it up so he has to prove himself if he lives the night. If we vote him now its like a 50/50 in my mind or worse. Why not wait till the odds are better?
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December 12 2014 03:38 GMT
#1795
On December 12 2014 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On December 12 2014 12:20 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
No that's dumb because you don't include the part where he could be mafia AND GIVE THEM AN EXTRA KP OR A CHANCE TO SNIPE ROLES.

I'd agree if he looked towny. He doesn't at all.


That would be even better. We would hit a for sure mafia tomorrow(him) and hopefully one today! We should set it up so he has to prove himself if he lives the night. If we vote him now its like a 50/50 in my mind or worse. Why not wait till the odds are better?

because thats how the game works? You kill the person you think is the scummiest.
What happens if he says roleblocked or some shit. Same shit different day. pushing this issue back isnt gonna help anyone.

Can you seriously tell me that you think there is better than a 50% chance to lynch anyone else in the game?

I dont actually think ritoky is scum but you know, answer the questions.



m saying its great if ritoky is mafia. Hes never getting out of this hole if hes mafia. Its like a 1 for 1 trade. I think it will become abundantly clear if hes mafia and if hes not the pros he can bring us outweigh the con. Keeping him alive directly lowers mafias kp, or raises ares.

"Opening a gift cannot be roleblocked. However if the gift has an action that can be acted upon the next night (2 out of 3 do) then roleblocking that night will cancel the action, and it is lost forever."

Well I did some research that sucks why did you claim mannnn. If they have a blocker at least we waste it, but this kind of owns any chance of ritoky being useful to town. Kill him if you think hes mafia IDK anymore. But in the chance they dont have a blocker were wasting a really good tool.

Wasted so many of my posts on this garbage.

I dont think there is alot of mafia motivation to make this claim so early in the day with little pressure on him .I think hes just a town who could have lost us the game ala kush.

Tubes is totally mafia over 50% hes just going ham and did the first mafia slip i have ever believed.
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December 12 2014 03:45 GMT
#1797
On December 12 2014 12:27 ritoky wrote:
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On December 12 2014 12:23 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 12:20 sicklucker wrote:
On December 12 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
No that's dumb because you don't include the part where he could be mafia AND GIVE THEM AN EXTRA KP OR A CHANCE TO SNIPE ROLES.

I'd agree if he looked towny. He doesn't at all.


That would be even better. We would hit a for sure mafia tomorrow(him) and hopefully one today! We should set it up so he has to prove himself if he lives the night. If we vote him now its like a 50/50 in my mind or worse. Why not wait till the odds are better?


How is it even better wtf? "oh i shot this guy cz he looked scummy, sorry he ended up town guys!" could come from either alignment. If he says he has a role check tomorrow and we've mislynched today then that's also pretty much lylo too??

Play the game dude. Stop this crap. Judge him on his play and not his present opening ability otherwise you won't improve at this game.


i mean i know you're just gonna say wifom to this, but there's 0 way i yolo open a present with a 1/3 chance of killing myself as mafia when i have crap tons of kp.


No I can agree to this. I think mafia just hangs on to the presents till later and certainly dont tell people they have them and are expected to use. Im leaning more town on you now but youve made a horrible mistake as either alignment so its hard
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December 12 2014 03:49 GMT
#1799
Actually mafia knows when dandred dies the kill presents probably gone. So ya ritoky could totally do this as mafia unfortunately.
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December 12 2014 03:57 GMT
#1807
So ritoky I assumed you opened it? Is this true? If not you can just pass it off and we can pretend this is all a bad dream.
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December 12 2014 04:03 GMT
#1811
Well im town, and alot of people know im town. So no I dont really like your list. Other then that I cant really argue with it. Im sure at least one of those 3 are your scum mate.
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December 12 2014 07:23 GMT
#1837
No like ritoky we have all read that like three times. Everytime you tell me to read it I reread it and ask myself how can this guy really believe this garbage.

Sure a Rber isint guaranteed but its more then likely. >50%. Besides the cop these presents are towns biggest tool so diverting attention away is pretty stupid too. A good town would stay under the radar untill tormorow. Like a town would admit they made a mistake. I tried to town read you but I just cant
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December 12 2014 07:52 GMT
#1841
Na your getting roleblocked 100% if your town, no if ands or butts. So tell us what present you have or im voting you. Its the most townie thing you can do right now. Giving us the option to counter claim makes me see you as more town. Your present doesint matter. What matters is if theres a roleblocker and you will be able to use it. I see both presents as equally important anyway.
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December 12 2014 19:05 GMT
#1880
Ya but I think hts is too altho its not as strong as last game. Shes just a try hard. I dont mind the bat read
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December 12 2014 19:13 GMT
#1883
Lets give ritoky a day take your votes off him people. If I were to bet id say hes town but that aside. There might be no roleblocker so he can prove himself and kill a mafia. Mean while we have the worst scum slip ive ever seen this should be an auto vote on him.

I asked some players how many mafia they though there were and they gave me the answer I had myself. NO CLUE
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December 12 2014 19:35 GMT
#1887
Its interesting to note that if mafia has no rb they have all the incentive in the world to push ritoky hes already got alot of votes
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December 12 2014 20:04 GMT
#1898
The only scenario is if they thought ritoky was going to get lynched and want to use his present to kill a town. He was far from a for sure thing but he claimed too early like I would expect mafia to wait till their about to get voted out to claim present.

Also who would have gave him a present anyway. Did gb claim to? I find it odd no third player claimed to have a present to give its so townie to say this only me and gb did. That means to me its probably in mafia hands so claiming he has it makes some sense. Expect another present claim when were about to lynch a mafia because I think they have one in there possession. regardless if its ritokys or not.
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December 12 2014 20:10 GMT
#1902
Actually whoever started with the third present should claim immediately. Just dont say who you gave it too. I can get alot of info off this.
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December 12 2014 20:14 GMT
#1904
Na I dont think mafia would have killed dandred last night so I think they know its gone. It looks like were lucky mafia has the seer present and not the kp. Can you imagine if mafia has 4kp tonight?
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December 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#1906
also its kind of nice that ritoky claimed kp. If he ever uses it we should know. And then we get a 1for1 mafia trade. More reason not to vote him out
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December 12 2014 20:20 GMT
#1907
Na like im pretty sure ritokys town. And theres zero reason to ever kill him unless his kp can potentially end the game for mafia. I kinda wanna look at hf.
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December 12 2014 20:25 GMT
#1911
Its very unlikely we have a vigilantly. I really dont think anyone was bad enough to shoot kush there when I was begging them not to and explaining why at eod.
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December 12 2014 20:26 GMT
#1913
That being said people were pushing are vig to shoot kush and he might have believed them... Someone with posts left should probably integrate these people because their logic is so bad its mind boggling.
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December 12 2014 20:31 GMT
#1915
If no one claims. Then we know mafia has it because a town would claim. If a mafia fakeclaims that could help us too
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December 12 2014 20:36 GMT
#1918
Ya of those people I like bats crazy reason to kill kush ( to get 2 for one) I think hes wrong but I believe he believes what hes saying. Kosh is town so ya but I find it weird 4 towns could make this mistake and no mafia would push it.
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December 12 2014 20:39 GMT
#1920
Hf is my #2 lynch but I wanna reread his shit.
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December 12 2014 20:41 GMT
#1922
If ritoky is town gb is town (mafia would never send a present to a town imo especially not a mislynch target)

Then that makes hf look pretty bad
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December 12 2014 20:45 GMT
#1924
It just does but dont worry about it. Like lights just clicked on in my head. Gb and ritoky are always the same alignment. Very most likely town. This makes the game alot easier
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December 12 2014 21:51 GMT
#1934
So your case is its 6 not 5? Then why did you say 5. And why are you talking in code to slam all game
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December 12 2014 21:55 GMT
#1935
But you still said im one of "the five" not 6 You seem to have perfect information so id go with your slip over a mod using an example.
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December 12 2014 21:58 GMT
#1936
[/QUOTE]

It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.

Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?



[/QUOTE]

Oh ok this is your post not the mods. So pre game you think theirs 6 but now you think theirs 5 its not looking good.
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December 12 2014 22:00 GMT
#1937
On December 11 2014 12:32 Tubesock wrote:
This will likely be my 1 night post.

Rit I think you are wrong on HF. There wasn't much new to discuss about NB and lots of people were talking about it and to her. I was one of them. I pointed out the "iffy" and "needs to be looked into" discrepancy but I'm certain others saw it. But she didn't seem to have 1 town post all day.

If you think his behavior is scummy then push every NB voter.


Tube defending hf probable mafia partners.
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December 12 2014 22:01 GMT
#1938
[QUOTE]On December 12 2014 07:55 Tubesock wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 12 2014 05:47 ritoky wrote:
to whomever gave me this present, gonna open it. yolo, wish me luck.[/QUOTE]

Ritoky my 3rd 100% Nice. Too bad his "present" kills. This isn't that kind of present. Another Nice dies but it wont be FecalFeast, LightningStrike, nor I. We are too important for the Naughty Lynch.

GlowingBear bolds Damdred's meta lie, then sights his previous Arnold role and again sights previous game "Arnie's Got A Gun?". Sicklucker, the naughty friend later reveals he thinks he knows this Arnold.

Both GlowingBear and Sicklucker and NOW The_Templar appear!! Three Naughties and two lurking in the shadows.

Kushm4ster needs to Go West in his Holiday Lear. Somehow won't.

ALPA protects me ssson.

+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:


People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush



[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum[/QUOTE]

Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point.

On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role.

I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon.

Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.

The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.[/QUOTE]

[quote]The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold).
I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)[/QUOTE]


He calls ritoky town right after he claims wtf I had the opposite reaction and im town so scummy.
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December 12 2014 22:07 GMT
#1940
Hes also still amusing theirs 5 mafia in the above post after saying theres before the game started (and he found out theres 5 mafia). This is the easiest lynch of are lives. This was not a one time slip he says theres mafia in multiple posts. He says me gb the templar + two lurkers 3+2=5 mafia
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December 13 2014 00:04 GMT
#1953
Wheres the mafia motivation to say I have a present then kill the person I sent it to. What I would do as mafia if im given a present is never mention then send it to one of my team mates like are third present holder did. Your saying im mafia because I volunteered information to help town that I could have kept a secret. Its a really bad reason.

In the odd chance your town tube you really need to reevaluate on me. You also have this weird obsession of me and gb being together. Hes just correctly reading me as town he would do this as either alignment but for sure as town. He has been my coach and won a game for town by pushing a lylo lynch on me. I would say he reads me the best of everyone in the game.
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December 13 2014 00:13 GMT
#1956
Damdred died to a present tho this is like mostly confirmed because the veg would not have killed anyone who died. Kush would have died anyway. They have a bank manager or the other killer its kind of irrelevant but they definitely have one. rsoultin your post was pure fluff that I already explained you got a bad habit of this. And yes ritokys claim is validated if he kills a mafia.
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December 13 2014 00:14 GMT
#1957
On December 13 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
I named FecalFeast, LIghtningStrike and I as survivors as I viewed us three as the best mlynch targets for mafia. We were all over the place but no one was really pushing any scum priority. Why would mafia waste their bullets on us? It's also a safe bet that town wouldn't protect us if that was a possibility.

Tubesock why do you read me town when everyone else thinks I'm scum? Seems like TMI I'm not hardly playing.


To get cred when you die to a veg? I agree its very weak and you said town things!
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December 13 2014 00:32 GMT
#1960
Mafia does not kill vt's tho they rolehunt and the three other kills follow that logic. Your making a fake wifmo I donno you might be mafia. Neither of you are the lynch
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December 13 2014 00:46 GMT
#1964
On December 13 2014 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, mafia never kills VTs? Not even to take a present that you broadcasted to the entire thread out of play? You're not thinking of all the possibilities, SL, and you have a nasty habit of scumreading anyone who disagrees with you. Tell me where the hole in my logic is.


What? Mafia had no idea I sent it to dandred. He even made a NO ONE SENT ME A PRESENT post. I just said I sent it to someone I town read. I never town read anyone this game lol.

Like vote tube im probably out of posts but i have made a decent case go through my filter . His reads are bad and he made a horrible perfect information slip.

Pre game he says there is likely 6 mafia in this setup. After he gets his role he says there is 5 mafia multiple times. Get rekt
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December 13 2014 00:49 GMT
#1965
On December 13 2014 09:39 rsoultin wrote:
People think he scum-slipped by saying there were 5 mafia up for lynch @ liancourt

He's a brand new player so in general I'm giving him more leeway than others...but I can see their point.


New players dont guess theres 6 mafia pregame they ask people what they think. And they certainly dont change their mind that theres 5 mafia after. New players slip the most anyways.
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December 13 2014 01:00 GMT
#1969
On December 13 2014 09:56 Vivax wrote:
Trfel is a decent lynch as well. I coached the guy when he was town in student mafia and he made high quality posts on day 1, leading him to be townread by the majority and subsequently nightkilled by the mafia on N1.

In this game he has 1 page of filter and is constantly under the radar, doesn't try to have an impact on the game, and makes his entrance just pre-deadline for no particular given reason/excuse.


seconded I was the one who town read him off one post that meta read on bats lol like who does that. Also this read tells me your town.
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December 13 2014 04:02 GMT
#1985
On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?

Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.


Na hes the same hes always been vulgar, rude n mean in all his posts you just didnt notice that game because you were too ;p
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December 13 2014 04:13 GMT
#1992
On December 13 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kind of tempted to lynch Vivax atm.

That last list post was pretty bad.


Not really its just the easy lynches tho. Hes so townie
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December 13 2014 05:14 GMT
#2033
On December 13 2014 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
Coulda sworn you'd said who you were sending the present to. And now I know why. You all but did. I came to the conclusion mid-day yesterday and remembered it as you saying it, lol. Still, if I get that strong an impression off it, anyone could.

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On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:49 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.

I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know.


Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up.


Then:

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On December 09 2014 12:01 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb didnt get my child reference HE IS NOT OF THE CHILDREN. i need to stop spamming small posts for there is a limit


Then:

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On December 10 2014 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
Also Gb just said hes a role for no reason. Wtf man do not open that present.


Then:

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On December 10 2014 01:02 sicklucker wrote:
Ok I just sent my gift now to someone im sure is town and not going to get killed tonight. Open it if you think im town its not the death present I think. I think a mafia starts with that one but im not sure.


You thought GB had claimed a role, you already said you'd ride or die with Damdred, and you say in your last post that you're sure they're town and won't be killed. Tell me that's not obvious? Pretty sure the only other you even mention as a townread before you said you sent your gift was HF.


Your case is way too good on this makes me suspect you I feel like you were role hunting or copied this out of the scum qt. Your correct mafia could sniff this out except there more likely to wait to do something about it as hes going to die on his own 1/3 times. Its a waste of kp especially with a rber who can get ride of it with 1 visit forever. Also if its the seer present they can kill him the next night before he reveals so its only 1/3 presents that can hurt them the next night.


Its just too much of a coincidence but possible altho very unlikely which is why I said 90% not 100%. Also not that important. But you gave it more thought at the time then me which is interesting.
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December 13 2014 05:24 GMT
#2038
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.

So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.

Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.

Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that.
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December 13 2014 05:31 GMT
#2042
Why im like a specialist at this point t.t
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December 13 2014 05:35 GMT
#2044
I think slams mafia but ive only really ever played with him as his mafia brother so I have no clue. He was obvious that game and he feels obvious this game. Did you really roll scum 3 games inarow slammy baby?
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December 13 2014 05:37 GMT
#2047
On December 13 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
Sl can you stop saying the 3rd present owner is mafia when you literally have no idea whether

A) they opened it at all to cc ritokys claim
B) you spent half the day berating ritoky for claiming he had a present but now want the 3rd person to claim for no reason.
It's also perfectly reasonable that they thought ritoky was going to get lynched because I was starting to push him so needed to give the present to him so he could wifom the hell out of the day.

Also a reasonable explanation that now you think rsoultin has tmi and knew you were sending the present to damd that mafia could easily make the plays above without even opening the presents.


You are putting way too much stock into presents this game and far too little actual game analysis.


Lie I want the original holder to claim not who has it now and since no ones claiming its proving my point its in mafias hands. It may be annoying but i have gained as much info if not more then anyone in this game.

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December 13 2014 05:42 GMT
#2051
On December 13 2014 14:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 14:24 sicklucker wrote:
So heres why I think its unlikely gb is mafia since he does not have his full wits.

So gb gives his present to ritoky. I disagree but its most likely from a town perspective let me explain.
Ritiky was a mislynch candidate its really bad for a mafia to give a present to a mislynch target because a present is the same as a role and he can clear himself like if ritoky kills mafia in the night. The only way gb is mafia and gives the present to him is if they are both mafia which still does not make any sense because they should just never mention it.

Like only a town is going to say they have a present because they can look scummy if it ends up in bad hands or used incorrectly. Like mafia almost always never says they have a present. Theres a reason only 2 of the 3 present givers came out because the third is mafia.

Oh and gb sent his present to ritoky like 3 hours after the game started. I dont think a mafia jumps the gun like that.


Okay, so have you considered the scenario where one mafia might give another mafia a present (because obviously giving town one isn't going to be to their advantage). Said mafia could claim it (especially a NK but also a seer cause they know everyone's alignment already), not open it, and pass it on to another mafia again. Thus delaying a potential lynch of the suspicious mafia member another day.

I'm not saying this is what happened, but is it not possible?


Yes of course which is why im not saying their for sure town just more likely. Individually they dont seem townie but together they do if that makes sense. Like I have them both null leaning town but together that makes them a pretty strong town. Its really risky and bad to align themselves like this which is more fuel to suspect their town.
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December 13 2014 05:58 GMT
#2063
This is how ff has played are last 3 games together and ive always struggled to get him lynched or mislynched but it rarely happens. Im actually surprised its happening for once but he could totally be town based on his previous play which is unfortunate. Like were gonna have to kill him at some point thats the cold hard truth so I dont mind voting him hes in my top 2 or 3. Id rather him be veg shot but after last night that might not be an option.

FF if your a role its time to claim between this mob and a potential veg who should totally kill you its time to claim.
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December 13 2014 06:06 GMT
#2073
Gb got like alot more drunk in 30 minutes.
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#2081
On December 13 2014 15:08 Vivax wrote:
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On December 13 2014 15:06 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote:
I've looked at the dead guys filters and I think I'll just sheep onto their scumreads, namely

ritoky, FF, Oats for kita
Obi, froggy and FF for lone
I think ritoky for Koshi
Kush got killed by Marley and played horribly.

Gonna evaluate them individually.

If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam.



Oooooooooo

Vivax can you explain why you left damdred out of this list of dead peoples reads you were checking or is it because he opened an exploding present and wasn't a nk ?


Cause he claimed joyful child or w/e it's called and I figured mafia mostly killed him for being a named VT and not for his reads.

Tho in my latest post I also considered his reads, given that other JC claims didn't die.


What this is so wrong you lost my town read. Mafia wont kill named vts for that reason n1 they role hunt.
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December 13 2014 06:11 GMT
#2084
Like I expect to be alive a long while for the same reason I suspect mafia wouldn't kill dandred. I'd be shocked if im not alive tormorow
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December 13 2014 06:41 GMT
#2125
Town
Ls
GB
Ritoky
xata
bats

leaning town
slam
hts

No clue lurkers so probable mafia
FF
Oats
KC
obishinobi
Froggy

Mafia
Tfel
tubesock

Gets his own catagory
Holyflare nothing particular scummy but hes a good player and if hes this much against ritoky and gb who im town reading hes more then likely mafia

The_templar no clue look at him later not the lynch today or probably torm either
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December 13 2014 06:45 GMT
#2132
I forgot rstoulin town. Ya ok I hate it but your town.;p
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December 13 2014 06:52 GMT
#2143
On December 13 2014 15:46 batsnacks wrote:
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On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.


You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you?

How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread.

To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads.


WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT

Literally, shit.

Post it.

That's what everyone else is doing right now.

It's SHIT.

Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT?

It can't be worse.


Like how is this not town slam? To answer your question. Bats has become one of my strongest reads tonight hes very interactive and made some good points. Also after last game my standards for him being town are lower :D. As for slight reading you, idk your my worst santa should check his list twice.
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December 13 2014 07:25 GMT
#2158
You said it yourself your a good lynch. Dont defend yourself and make excuses it will only hurt you help us find scum.
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December 13 2014 08:05 GMT
#2168
So I can make logical assumptions I do this all the time. The guys who got killed were not scum read and like people were screaming to shoot people like ff. I feel like your grasping air.
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December 13 2014 20:39 GMT
#2368
On December 14 2014 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see how GB's stuff is super relevant now, we arent lynching sl today regardless.


Its pretty relevant we should be close to never lynch any of us three and win the game
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December 13 2014 20:44 GMT
#2376
On December 14 2014 03:40 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 14 2014 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude...


I think you are 100% town. Although, you are playing terribly. Why'd you let Sicklucker mirror and parrot you? you drop a "this game is easy" and he parrots it TWICE????? You don't see you are a scapegoat????


I was the first person to point out that only towns would say they have presents and gb actually parroted me but I believe he came to the same conclusion because it is the truth. Can we lynch this man? Im catching up
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December 13 2014 20:50 GMT
#2393
On December 14 2014 03:57 Tubesock wrote:
GlowingBear, tell me what is a smarter play.

TownSicklucker - thinks he has a town on D1 and sends him a gift and CLAIMS he did.

MafiaSicklucker - Claiming to give a towny a gift (knowing who the townies are) and then using a kill shot on them. Then claims "Oh no! He must have opened the present!! Poor suicidal Damdred."

On a Starcraft 2 forum I find it hard to believe there are many stupid people. This isn't Super Mario Brothers, SC2 takes effort. You're saying that Sicklucker is more likely stupid and thus "town"?

REALLY???


How am I stupid when im right about my town read and I convince every player in the game but you and maybe rsputin that im town. I did the optimal play just stop im like the top town other then maybe like xata.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:00 GMT
#2411
So like tubesock is just doing what elvis and serejai did to me in that campus game. That lost us the game I dont think mafias going to kill me because im a confirmed vt. The difference here is I think tubesock could be mafia I never though tthose guys were. Im not getting policy lynched in lylo again. I might switch to hf because hes scary and we might not get another chance.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:22 GMT
#2462
On December 14 2014 05:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Who is LS


a confirmed town untill hes counter claimed.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:25 GMT
#2468
Tube If I can convince you that Ls is town ill consider nonvoting you. This will tell me you have hope. Gimme 5-10 mins to finish thread
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#2478
Shit so it looks like tubes not getting voted out. ##unvote ##vote holyflare Tube if your town why do you not vote your second scum read? Why is your first scum read voting your second scum read? Maybe your wrong about your first one? Ls another one of your scum read is confirmed town because he claimed a role and no one countered.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:35 GMT
#2481
On December 14 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know who to vote.


I think ksc and holy are the mafia, ff is the deflection.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:38 GMT
#2486
Take your votes off of ff its too easy and I doubt all three are mafia. I like holy but I cant really argue against kelsier either.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:40 GMT
#2492
Like tubesocks "5" is so bad. of It im basically confirmed town. Ls is 100 % confirmed town. And im willing to vote for holy or ksc who are also in the "5" Wake up tubesock its time to come back to earth if your town.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#2502
Hf, vivax, kc, hts, rsoultin voting ff. If im right thats possibly 3 or 4 of your mafia right there
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:45 GMT
#2505
Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:49 GMT
#2513
On December 14 2014 06:35 Tubesock wrote:
My last vote. ## Keslier.

LEt's make this easier. Either Vote KelsierSC or Tubesock. No one else.

GB Shape up. You were being stubborn, and I convinced you once. IF you really believe what I said, then you know that Kels is also a good lynch. WHen he pops mafia, it will also clear you.


Like are you claiming mafia partner with holy? Your shit just doesint make sense. Your also not the lynch here apparently its ksc vs holy vs ff.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:51 GMT
#2518
On December 14 2014 06:49 Tubesock wrote:
Templar, you have been on me since the beginning of day 2. AND JUST NOW YOU VOTE OFF ME WHEN I SPAM AND DROP HUGE READS???



Dude people are unvoting you because its clear we dont have the numbers and we dont want are vote wasted chilax.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:54 GMT
#2530
Right now its tied 5-5-5. With ff set to be lynched because of tie break. COME ON GUYS HES THE WORST LYNCH OF THE 3 dont let mafia win look whos voting for him both ksc and holy.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:56 GMT
#2534
Well ill hammer ksc over ff if no one wants to switch to holy In 1 or 2 minutes
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:58 GMT
#2540
Shit wait ff you might have to change your vote back to ksc. Now I cant break the tie
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:58 GMT
#2541
or maybe i donno im confused
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 21:59 GMT
#2544
If anyone hammers ff I go after them.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 22:00 GMT
#2548
Oh I thought it was the deadline now... lol
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 22:54 GMT
#2612
Dont get confused hf is the best lynch here. The guy who everyone sheeped onto the other wagon even agrees...
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 22:55 GMT
#2615
Kc vote hf or your getting lynch. You do realize this right? Its between him and you. You dont have a choice if your town or mafia.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 22:57 GMT
#2617
Ksc if your town dont be a donkey. Survive and help town win.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 22:58 GMT
#2621
Omg this is a joke ksc must be town. Only a town would suicide and go against there win condition like kush did. Plz someone switch from ksc to hf
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:00 GMT
#2625
Screw kush screw ksc why do they play
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:03 GMT
#2631
Some good rng there ksc was clearly drugged out of his mind and could have been either
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:06 GMT
#2638
So I was kinda confused that he didnt vote to save himself. But I totally believed his story that he was out of the hospital and on drugs as either alignment so theres that.

So power roles I wanna talk to you. If your on the obvious kill list. People like xata etc who are almost certainly getting killed tonight. You should tell us your role and any info you have 1 minute before eod so mafia cant do anything about it. If your a huge mislynch target and dont think your gonna die obv dont say anything.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:08 GMT
#2640
On December 14 2014 08:05 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote:
Some good rng there ksc was clearly drugged out of his mind and could have been either


Yes, how lucky. Uh huh.


Like dont even start I was all aboard lynching him untill he refused to try to save himself...
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:10 GMT
#2643
On December 14 2014 08:08 ritoky wrote:
I would like everyone to post who they think I should shoot tonight and why.


Like honestly be careful I think you might hit a big power role like santa. I think none of ff, tube, hf are power roles or would have claimed already. Those are good targets.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:18 GMT
#2653
Like its so clear to me now that hf and ks were both the mafia and ff was getting deflected onto because he was the easy lynch. Look at who was voting for ff minus the people who moved off him at the right time. Like both hf and keslier wanted ff gone, thats gotta tell you something.

We got alot of information either way, alot of the unknowns have town reads now while a few people looked suspicious
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:21 GMT
#2660
On December 14 2014 08:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:05 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote:
Some good rng there ksc was clearly drugged out of his mind and could have been either


Yes, how lucky. Uh huh.


Like dont even start I was all aboard lynching him untill he refused to try to save himself...


so on board that you never voted on him once, and were berating those voting on him...now you're role hunting? if you're town, wtf are you doing.


im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:23 GMT
#2661
On December 14 2014 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.


I hate to say it as i hate this word but thats the most useless wifmo ever.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:26 GMT
#2665
On December 14 2014 08:24 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:10 ritoky wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:05 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote:
Some good rng there ksc was clearly drugged out of his mind and could have been either


Yes, how lucky. Uh huh.


Like dont even start I was all aboard lynching him untill he refused to try to save himself...


so on board that you never voted on him once, and were berating those voting on him...now you're role hunting? if you're town, wtf are you doing.


im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


you literally just asked roles to claim....wtf are you even doing?


No I didnt you god damn donkey.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:28 GMT
#2668
I SAID IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO DIE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION SAY THAT INFORMATION RIGHT BEFORE TOMORROW STARTS. HINT HINT i DONT WANT ARE SANTAS ROLECHECKS TO BE WASTED IF ITS SOMEONE LIKE XATA WHO DIES.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:29 GMT
#2670
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


ok then its just not updated.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:34 GMT
#2677
Ok this is directed at ritoky.

I just read all the roles and you should tell us who your shooting at eon (not now) like at 5:59 tormorow eastern time. Like your getting blocked regardless so that wont matter anyway. This can help people who dont think your town confirm you but ultimately its up to you.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:38 GMT
#2680
If obi hammered kelsier mafias killing him tonight so that would be a waste of a bullit
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:40 GMT
#2683
Heres the real final vote count that oats thing was an error

On December 14 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
The End of Counts

KelsierSC (8): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock, Tubesock, rsoultin, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Trfel, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Half the Sky, rsoultin, ritoky, Xatalos, ObiwanShinobi
liancourt (0): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock, rsoultin, Holyflare
Tubesock (2): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, froggynoddy, Xatalos, Half the Sky, LightningStrike
ritoky (0): Holyflare, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, Half the Sky
froggynoddy (0): Oatsmaster
Half the Sky (0): batsnacks
Holyflare (7): GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, batsnacks, Tubesock, Alakaslam, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, The_Templar, sicklucker, Vivax, Fecalfeast, Trfel
Fecalfeast (2): Alakaslam, Vivax, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Vivax, Xatalos, Half the Sky, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Tubesock
Oatsmaster (0): Vivax
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
sicklucker (0): Tubesock
Trfel (1): rsoultin

KelsierSC was lynched!

sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:41 GMT
#2684
Oh wait no it was not kill that man
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:41 GMT
#2685
On December 14 2014 08:39 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:28 sicklucker wrote:
I SAID IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO DIE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION SAY THAT INFORMATION RIGHT BEFORE TOMORROW STARTS. HINT HINT i DONT WANT ARE SANTAS ROLECHECKS TO BE WASTED IF ITS SOMEONE LIKE XATA WHO DIES.


why is xat going to die?


Hes top town with no known role hes who I would kill.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:46 GMT
#2688
On December 14 2014 08:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
Ok this is directed at ritoky.

I just read all the roles and you should tell us who your shooting at eon (not now) like at 5:59 tormorow eastern time. Like your getting blocked regardless so that wont matter anyway. This can help people who dont think your town confirm you but ultimately its up to you.


GD it SL why do you never think things through? That would prove nothing -_-. The point is nothing but ritoky dying tonight proves anything. Oh, I said I'd shoot so-and-so but it didn't go through! I must have been RBd!

You can't see the flaw in that for those who think he is mafia?


why are you so anti helping town? like why not try? If ritoky shoots a mafia hes confirmed like 100% your horrible.
Hes already confirmed to me so idc just trying to help others.
sicklucker
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December 13 2014 23:48 GMT
#2691
Like I want to post a list of 3 people who I think mafia will kill tonight (they have 2kp)
Is this a good idea? I just want to help them decide if they should come out right before the end of night and not risk dying thoughts?
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:00 GMT
#2705
On December 14 2014 08:55 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I don't care anymore @ SL. Do what you will.

It's not anti-town to point out that a confirmation isn't an actual confirmation. But I'm kind of tired of fighting you on things. I think it detracts from the purpose of the game to keep doing it.


But it is a confirmation wtf.

So like screw it I already kinda suggested who I think mafias gonna kill. Obi hammered ksc and reduced mafias potential kp. Mafia would never do that hes confirmed town hes played this entire game like a role hes going to die tonight if your santa come out,

I hope obis not santa but im trying to put myself in mafias shoes and I kill him 10/10 times tonight.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:04 GMT
#2712
Hf have you claimed any specific role? Just curious if I missed something
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:07 GMT
#2716
Hf just claimed a power role. Like I see him do this as mafia or vt lol so it doesint really tell me much. Like I hope hes vt doing this play because hats sick.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:28 GMT
#2726
Na hf claiming here is more town unless hes pretty damn sure ritokys shooting him which its too early to say. Like this is the perfect play to do as a vt as well so thats another reason for me to think hes town. There are scenarios were both hf and gb are town here guys. Hf I want you to look at those worlds.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:30 GMT
#2727
Like veg/ ritoky dont shoot him obviously he should sort himself out. I expect a hard claim if you live the night tho.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 00:39 GMT
#2731
presents
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 03:54 GMT
#2795
Vivax would be a great shot tonight. You gotta shot someone who didnt vote kes. Ive never liked or remembered anything hes said all game.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 03:56 GMT
#2796
Vivax oats froggy. People I dont like that didnt vote keslier. People who should die or step it up
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 06:06 GMT
#2843
On December 14 2014 14:26 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:08 ritoky wrote:
I would like everyone to post who they think I should shoot tonight and why.


Like honestly be careful I think you might hit a big power role like santa. I think none of ff, tube, hf are power roles or would have claimed already. Those are good targets.


I am a good target to keep alive for mafia. I die, it gives MASSIVE credence to my case.


Of course you are, you think the two most obvious towns in the game are mafia. Their never going to kill you whats your point here, and with that random quote? Dont worry your not gonna die ever in this game except to town if you keep this up.

Like can you explain to me how LS is ever mafia when he claims a role and no one counters it? Your inability to comprehend this makes you useless.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 06:08 GMT
#2848
Also trefels is almost certainly town for pushing that lynch even if he changed his vote (which I also read as town) . I thought that was so obvious another reason of many to scum read vivax.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 08:11 GMT
#2866
On December 14 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:
Then when a mislynch opportunity arose you were quite quick to dismiss your entire case on your mafia buddy to lynch me.


that makes alot of sense from your pov actually. Ill def remember this if you die and flip town
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 08:17 GMT
#2867
Altho trefel countered that pretty well and there was likely already another town wagon going on.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 08:54 GMT
#2870
Like why does xata keep mentioning me as a lynch out of no where.. anyway too tired for this.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 08:56 GMT
#2871
Like I agree xata was really scummy at vote time. But thats the only scummy thing I know of.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 20:51 GMT
#2904
Ritoky I just thought of this, you gotta tell us who your gonna shoot we could still have a veg and we dont wanna waste two bullets on 1
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 20:56 GMT
#2908
On December 15 2014 05:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 03:57 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont be here for EoN but Rito and the vig if we got one shoot the following people
GlowingBear: Been trying to lynch HF since end of Day 1 and made a poor case of HF being scum
Tubesock: Called me and sicklucker the most obvious town players mafia with little evidence and scum slipped earlier in the thread on how many mafia there is plus been acting scummy since Day 1.
Oatsmaster: Totally off his game and wouldn't comment much at all and seemed scum because he normally would his points clear no matter what time of Day or Night to make sure a case is good and give clear direction which he didn't do this game.

Therefore shoot Lightningstrike

##QED OF BAMCIS KILLA DA SKUMZ


No bad slam bad!we dont kill Ls untill someone counters his ghost hes totally town
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 20:58 GMT
#2909
Like slam might be mafia just for suggesting to shoot Ls rofl. like its so technically bad is this typical town slam to ignore an un cced role claim?
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:06 GMT
#2916
On December 15 2014 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 05:33 Xatalos wrote:
Shooting LS would be stupid when he claimed the Ghost role and nobody counter-claimed him (which they should have done immediately if there was someone to counter-claim since the role became useless).

There is WIFOM; there was no guarantee made that there were any ghosts.

But I see you


Ls is never gonna claim a random role and pray no one else has is because thats a bad play. Hes also a scared newb no offense that would never make a play like that.

People you can shoot
Slam
froggy (probably this guy wtf is he even playing)
tube
oats
vivax?
ff

Guys you should never shoot due to technical reasons
Ls ( confirmed you baddies)
Ritoky ( has a gun)
Hf (claimed)
Gb (kind of because hes so aligned with ritoky that if ritoky kills a mafia and gets confirmed so will he)
obiwan ( he hammered mafia kp hes probably dead tonight anyway)

sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:07 GMT
#2919
Slam if your town and gonna make a bad counterclaim here wait till eon please so you dont help mafia role hunt
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:11 GMT
#2926
Hi Calvin your not a role in this game.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:14 GMT
#2929
Thanks I always need a slam interrogator. Him saying makes me want to lynch him more. Mafia will never kill him now.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:16 GMT
#2933
He claimed a blue role.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#2935
er, red not blue
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:19 GMT
#2938
Can anyone give me meta on slams town play. Like is he ever bad enough that he would push a lynch on a confirmed town and not recant it?
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#2944
I think santa should check his list twice on vivax. I think their is probably a mafia between him and xata. Like plz let them fight all day rusputin dont break that shit up.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:25 GMT
#2948
Ya like I just dont kill potential roles because im not stupid even if I think they could be mafia were not in lylo we dont have to hit them yet just expose them. Also the way he came out is very nice not really under alot of pressure.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#2952
Ya they both looked pretty bad at vote. I did a vote count exercise and I looked at who I didnt like that didnt vote ksc. Only vivax really stood out, but xata was also there.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2961
On December 15 2014 06:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
I've got to get ready for work so feel free to berate my shitty reads while I'm not here, I may not make it back by EoN so here's my list for now.

Vivax, HF, Xat, HTS

my scum reads going into the next day because they were the main proponents of the wagon on me. Vivax and HF mentioned NKs to justify a scumread on me right away, I didn't look deeper to see who else used NK logic but these two said shit right out of the gate. Vivax unvoted me before kelsier put his vote on me, then voted me again after. xat was the last one to take his vote off me.
HTS honestly is a gut read and pretty weak.

I'm not going through the first day/night again so if there's anything in there that makes this list stupid let me know.

Slam SL truffles liancourt top towns for me


Slam was totally pushing you untill like 30 mins before vote. I donno it could be a bus, slam loves busing he bussed me when when we were both mafia in are last game from like day 1 when I was the mos town read of are 4 man mafia team and it just killed all my momentum and I eventually couldn't mislynch you.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 22:17 GMT
#2978
On December 15 2014 07:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:05 Vivax wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On December 15 2014 06:59 Vivax wrote:
I don't even care what you all think of me cause I'm claiming after night ends so we can proceed and lynch Xatalos. I'm very eager to see if the people saying "scum is between me and Xata" will act like they said that.


Flawed. Just...flawed. You've already claimed you have a role, so it's not going to matter now if you wait or not if you're not scum so...why don't you just out with it then?

Not to mention Trfel (and others) have already pointed out the problem with claiming this game -_- So why you feel the need to throw it out there now I have no idea.


I'm surely not going to out it before the night ends. Scum doesn't know if my role is scrooge related and hence useless or if I can use my power to better ends, if I claim it now they know exactly whether to rb/shoot me or not.


I'm perfectly okay with you claiming and getting rb'd or shot.

Saves us the trouble of sorting you.


I find it curious you put so much faith into people being on the correct wagon when your vote, along with Xatalos' achieved exactly nothing besides you being able to say that now.



HE HAMMERED MAFIA
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 22:32 GMT
#2989
On December 15 2014 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 07:18 Vivax wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:14 batsnacks wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:13 Vivax wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 15 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:
You're sneakily trying to fish for cred you don't deserve and judge others when they don't have it.


Holy shit.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say. Ever.


No cause you say scum is on the other wagons and scum wouldn't try to vote for their scumbuddy right at the end to not look badly when he flips, and your and Xatalos' votes fit into that pattern cause they were placed when Kelsier was already set to be lynched.


Didn't OWS hammer KSC? I've been operating under that assumption. Someone else said it.


7 to 6

Xata votes, it's 8 to 6
Trfel switches, it's 7 to 7
Obi votes last making 8 to 7

The guy who achieves majority first gets lynched, so Obi voted when Kels was set to get lynched.


KSC had his vote on FF the entire time, so he could have saved himself even with OWS' vote right?


Yes and both mafia and town should have assumed this.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 22:38 GMT
#2993
On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking?


Yes of course. Awesome things can happen tormorow
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:10 GMT
#3005
I have not finished reading trefs reads He really should have said his check before he died tho really newb mistake. If he was not gonna die tonight he was tomorrow so he had no reason not to say it at the end when mafia wont have time to change their kill. Gonna look into his reads now at least we have alot to work with should be able to figure out his check.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:11 GMT
#3006
Ya sign every power role failed us hard. This confirms dandred died to a present tho and im town.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:13 GMT
#3008
On December 15 2014 08:10 Vivax wrote:
Scum is pro at sniping roles it seems.
Speaking of that, I'm the ghost of christmas yet to come, and if rsoultin suggests there can be two of them, I call insanity.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've decided that LoneMeow is mafia.

With the caveat that he might not be.


Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(But seriously, he's like 100% mafia and should die super hard.)


Also looks like our pro vig might have shot the mason.


Na lol like are roles were so obvious dude thats why I was begging santa to claim at 5:59 est with his check incase he died. I also blatantly asked for a medic save on obi hello medic?. So if are medics about to claim (thats the only thing hf can claim now) I want answers
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:17 GMT
#3010
Ok so hum reading trefs reads he probably green checked ff. Like thats the only town read he posted...
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:20 GMT
#3011
"I've been defending Fecalfeast a bit throughout day 2. I suppose that was the first controversial read I made all game, since I only started seriously being suspicious of KelsierSC midway through day 2. Anyway, I maintain that Fecalfeast's play seems to be poor town instead of inactive mafia. He should be on a relatively short leash, though."

Thats his green check never vote this man out.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:20 GMT
#3012
Ride or die with ff
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:21 GMT
#3013
##vote holyflare
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:23 GMT
#3015
Ok so I take it back trefel was a good cop he posted his reads incase he died and made it so blantantly obvious by posting one town read. Every other read like me or vivax he was iffy
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:28 GMT
#3017
On December 15 2014 08:10 Vivax wrote:
Scum is pro at sniping roles it seems.
Speaking of that, I'm the ghost of christmas yet to come, and if rsoultin suggests there can be two of them, I call insanity.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've decided that LoneMeow is mafia.

With the caveat that he might not be.


Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(But seriously, he's like 100% mafia and should die super hard.)


Also looks like our pro vig might have shot the mason.


Did anyone else claim this role? Mass claiming is probably fine now we only have a potential medic left who im sure hf is going to claim anyway so come on out boys.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:31 GMT
#3020
On December 15 2014 08:28 liancourt wrote:
4 things to discuss today

1. HF needs to die
2. What happened to rit's shot?
3. What happened to vig's shot?
4. Everyone just claim roles cos vig and seer died anyway.


Wait vegs shot should go through even if he dies correct? Something weird is going on would mafia block and kill obiwan? Why not block ritoky? This might mean ritokys mafia.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:33 GMT
#3022
On December 15 2014 08:31 rsoultin wrote:
The medic is still a potential RBer, no one should claim.

Stop this nonsense -_-.


Na just dont claim yet wait to cc holy which is gonna happen. The rest may as well we need to figure shit out
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:35 GMT
#3024
Can someone list whos claimed what ghosts so far this confuses me.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:35 GMT
#3025
On December 15 2014 08:34 rsoultin wrote:
No, the rest should not claim either. How stupid are you? Or how stupid do you think everyone else is/believes you to be?

That would be process of elimination.

NO ONE SHOULD CLAIM RIGHT NOW.


Like everyones claimed already dude like stop. Even I know who the medic is
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:36 GMT
#3026
Like mafia knows who the medic is by poe we have had like 4 vt and 2 ghost claims. Its pointless to fight over this
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:41 GMT
#3030
Ya I snap voted hf how come no one else is. So I thought hf was trying to take a bullet last night which would have been the most townie thing to do I really wanted to do it myself but I claimed vt (I think bats made a bad attempt at it too. Hes still alive cant really keep him around.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:43 GMT
#3032
Can a veg shoot the night the he is killed?

If the answer is yes we probably need to kill ritoky first actually...
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:44 GMT
#3037
Like why am I doing all the work I cant read you if you all just sheep me afk.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:45 GMT
#3038
On December 15 2014 08:43 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not really a town power role. I was just trying to be like the cool people and claim at night.


We know it was the saddest attempt but I love you for it.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:48 GMT
#3043
Ok so we kill ritoky because hes a god damn liar and didnt shoot.
sicklucker
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December 14 2014 23:54 GMT
#3046
So if obi didnt shoot for whatever reason he screwed us. Like why would he not shoot? I think the only reason is because he was rb which makes ritoky 100% mafia. Can someone more experienced tell me if obi would ever save his shot here? I dont think he would
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 00:41 GMT
#3052
Ah yes the snowman. He should def claim if thats true
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 00:44 GMT
#3054
I told obi he was dead tonight . He woulda shot 10/10. There is either a medic save or a snowman
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 00:49 GMT
#3058
On December 15 2014 09:47 GlowingBear wrote:
2kp.

Is there a mafia rolecop?

Holyflare, claim Veteran or I'll lynch you.


we killed mafias third kp yesterday
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 15 2014 00:52 GMT
#3061
Theres no mass murderer im like 95%+ sure. Your right holyflare is totally the veteran that explains everything and if hes not hes certainly gonna claim it...
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 00:56 GMT
#3065
On December 15 2014 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, why would Santa try to lynch holyflare by having a "gut feeling"?
His check was obvious not on Kelsier.

Hm.


It was on ff Im like tottaly sure he would have tried harder if he red checked hf. Green checking ff is the only option lets amuse that and move on
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 01:42 GMT
#3094
On December 15 2014 09:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 09:52 sicklucker wrote:
Theres no mass murderer im like 95%+ sure. Your right holyflare is totally the veteran that explains everything and if hes not hes certainly gonna claim it...


There IS a mass murderer considering quantity of dead people day1


No there was 1 role with extra kp and we killed it.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 01:50 GMT
#3098
On December 15 2014 10:28 GlowingBear wrote:
There was no kill dealt from KSC because THERE WAS NO DISGRUNTLED CLAIM

GODDAMMIT


na so many of them died on n1 he almost certainly correctly hit n1.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 01:51 GMT
#3100
Well cant he just fire random bullits and hope to get likely? are veg could have also possibly killed one of the non kush towns. But this does worry me
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 02:44 GMT
#3112
On December 15 2014 11:13 Half the Sky wrote:
SL, why did you vote for Froggy?


Hes mafia in both words like wtf is this person doing
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 04:59 GMT
#3183
On December 15 2014 13:31 liancourt wrote:
In the next 2 days hf and rit are going to get lynched no questions asked.

All other reads are irrelevant until these 2 flip.


I disagree I think ritoky is pretty town if it comes out are veg was not rbed. Medic save/veteran hit for example.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 05:02 GMT
#3185
On December 15 2014 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Seriously, if HF flips mafia, I have contundent facts that rsoultin is hod partner.
Although I must say I'm impressed with his play here.


+1 Like pic a side people for this vote. Its not we vote one person from each world I would look at lian for suggesting that totally what mafia wants
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 05:32 GMT
#3189
On December 15 2014 14:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 14:02 sicklucker wrote:
On December 15 2014 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Seriously, if HF flips mafia, I have contundent facts that rsoultin is hod partner.
Although I must say I'm impressed with his play here.


+1 Like pic a side people for this vote. Its not we vote one person from each world I would look at lian for suggesting that totally what mafia wants


You really don't find it strange when the entire game breaks up into camps? I do.


No because ones mafia and ones not lol? thats what should be expected its up to the fence towns to pick the winning team
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 05:34 GMT
#3190
People are saying lynch hf then if he shows up mafia go after ritoky/gb? Thats really bad because their also never going to be mafia very often. Sounds like mafia setting up future mislynches to me
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 05:36 GMT
#3191
Rsoultin if you dont think mafia are going to hard align then how are gb and ritoky ever mafia? Thats one of my town reads on them.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 05:41 GMT
#3193
No one in hf camp is committing to reads. Everyone in my camp is. Thats so they can look better when he flips.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:41 GMT
#3196
Like I didnt want hf shot either. you dont want potential roles dead unless your certain its bad play. Your new just trust us on the technicle side
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:43 GMT
#3198
Hf could have been the cop and gave us auto. And he might very well be a veteran since the nk's dont make sense.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:51 GMT
#3202
If thats all your gonna add to this hf im voting you
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:52 GMT
#3205
On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday.


omg... why didnt you come out like when we asked? To who btw they have to come out with a check today anyway.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:55 GMT
#3207
So your playing against your win condition as town but not necessarily as mafia? Thats cool tell us who you sent the present to as town it will help us if you have given up.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 15 2014 06:57 GMT
#3210
Wait so you sent it to someone today and not yesterday? Im not buying that at all like why didnt you open it its not looking good for you
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:57 GMT
#3211
On December 15 2014 15:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
So your playing against your win condition as town but not necessarily as mafia? Thats cool tell us who you sent the present to as town it will help us if you have given up.


How the fuck am i playing against my win condition by not revealing i have a present???


By saying idc if you vote me....
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 06:58 GMT
#3214
On December 15 2014 15:57 rsoultin wrote:
He was trying to get shot. The present's power would have been wasted. Come on SL. Think.


No because if he gets shot the presents lost anyway. Try again your mafia together
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 15 2014 07:01 GMT
#3217
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:05 GMT
#3221
Im not sure when you recieve presents because I never got one but I do know from reading that you open them at night like a night action (then use them the next night)

Also you claim vt. A vt always opens the present especially when the kill present is out of play like your not this bad.

sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:08 GMT
#3224
On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over


Or


Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??

How many brain cells are you missing there buddy


Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:10 GMT
#3225
On December 09 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:
Clarificaation

Passing presents is a DAY action. It is a mandatory action (Gift will be RNGd if no target is selected).
Opening a present is a NIGHT action. If not opened the holder must then pass it the following day.

This means that the people who randomly received the presents today, will not get a chance to open them. Also, all aspects of the gift giving process is anonymous. They cannot be tracked, watched, roleblocked, and no one is ever notified of anything except receiving a gift.

sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:13 GMT
#3227
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:18 GMT
#3230
On December 15 2014 16:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over


Or


Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??

How many brain cells are you missing there buddy


Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.


I had the present on n1 and I didn't want to die??? Like i can't even understand you here you're being intentionally dumb. I gave it to someone that I thought might actually be town and wouldn't be shot. I was clearly going to die one way or another and it would be a massive waste. You're telling me I should have kept it and opened it n2 and also should hope to survive till day 4 when everyone in this game basically wants to lynch me today???


Ok if it was night 1 (feel like your storys changing) That means someone should have checks today. So whoever you sent the present to should have checks and can verify your story. who did you send it too? Let me double check before you expose the person but I think they should have the checks already
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:23 GMT
#3235
On December 15 2014 16:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.


A) I'm not terrible at reading town people

B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??


IF YOU DIE IN THE NIGHT YOU DIE WITH THE PRESENT , so a vt would open it regardless. You either made a donkey play or are lieing. With that being said if you are town only a town would send a town a present, so if we can confirm that person as town we confirm two towns so please dont role over and die.....
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:38 GMT
#3243
Na your horrible for not doing it imo but their is a chance you didnt and we can confirm you tormorow so I wont vote you. Im back to voting froggy ff is probably green checked plz dont kill him.

If holy is town the mafia team has to be something like this

ksc
oats
templar
hts/ lian
froggy, with a few possible unconfirmed.

If we can confirm holy or anyone else tomorrow I have auto so I dont want to kill him.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:45 GMT
#3246
Ya "they" could be im not gonna ignore it but I dont think mafia hard aligns like that. Everything about their present actions is so bad at mafia tho I dont see why you cant see that. Mafia just doesint say they have presents very often which is why im considering a world were neither are.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 07:56 GMT
#3251
On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.

I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.


Him dying really doesint help me? How does it help you? Just because he dies town wont mean gb an ritoky are for sure scum and I already know who his mafia team mates would be. mostly lurkers...
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 08:01 GMT
#3257
*rutin

Brass manager didnt kill anyone night 1 because no one claimed that specific role. It would seem they have a Mass Murderer as well with a bullet left.


Veg likely shot kush and wasted his bullet, the confirmed veg was asking are veg to shoot him...

Its not 100% that dandre died but its so likely that you have to go into this thinking that. Mafia wont go killing claimed vt's night 1 they role hunt.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 08:11 GMT
#3264
Why cant we kill froggy/oats? They are like so mafia its not even funny we can still learn alot if hf flips town and steamroll this game
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 08:13 GMT
#3266
On December 15 2014 17:11 Tubesock wrote:
I'd like to ask a question.

Given my tinfoil if you look at this:

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
The End of Counts

KelsierSC (8): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock, Tubesock, rsoultin, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Trfel, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Half the Sky, rsoultin, ritoky, Xatalos, ObiwanShinobi
liancourt (0): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock, rsoultin, Holyflare
Tubesock (2): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, froggynoddy, Xatalos, Half the Sky,LightningStrike
ritoky (0): Holyflare, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, Half the Sky
froggynoddy (0): Oatsmaster
Half the Sky (0): batsnacks
Holyflare (7): GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, batsnacks, Tubesock, Alakaslam, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, The_Templar, sicklucker, Vivax, Fecalfeast, Trfel
Fecalfeast (2): Alakaslam, Vivax, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Vivax, Xatalos, Half the Sky, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Tubesock
Oatsmaster (0): Vivax
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
sicklucker (0): Tubesock
Trfel (1): rsoultin

KelsierSC was lynched!


Is it a pretty smart play to leave 2 mafia's on me, and then jump to KelsierSC enough to keep him dying and insuring Holyflare lives? This also gives some town cred to 2 other mafias, they can jump off Holyflare too if they really had to.


Ls is confirmed town. Froggy is an afk lurker as either alignment waste of time.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 10:42 GMT
#3284
Gb has been totally open about the possibility of hf being town. He doesint want to vote him today and didnt want you shot if I recall. I feel like its the other way around your not considering that your both town. If you were more involved in this game it would be easier for me to be on your side.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:13 GMT
#3420
On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town.


Na he has one bullet left which means hes condifent hes not going to day. Your just repeating stuff stay away from this stuff ;p
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:23 GMT
#3425
On December 16 2014 07:03 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday.


My birthday is December 15th. HF saw my icon change, I hope others did too. Just for the record, I will never open a present, I will pass it on. Should I die in the night, it will not be due to a death present.

There wasn't much reason to post for me as the wagon was on Holyflare. It needs to go back there or to one of my other suspects. In case you forgot:

Holyflare
Sicklucker
KelsierSC
The_Templar
Froggynoddy
Lightningstrike


My reasoning hasn't changed. If anything my thoughts have been reinforced.


Remember that time I was begging people to hammer holy over ksc minutes 5 before deadline? Like your team is so bad were never together and LS IS TOWN MAN
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:28 GMT
#3430
On December 16 2014 07:19 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:03 Tubesock wrote:
On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday.


My birthday is December 15th. HF saw my icon change, I hope others did too. Just for the record, I will never open a present, I will pass it on. Should I die in the night, it will not be due to a death present.

There wasn't much reason to post for me as the wagon was on Holyflare. It needs to go back there or to one of my other suspects. In case you forgot:

Holyflare
Sicklucker
KelsierSC
The_Templar
Froggynoddy
Lightningstrike


My reasoning hasn't changed. If anything my thoughts have been reinforced.

You simply don't claim you got a present until after you use it...


OR mafia claims it for me as I'd be dead from a mafia night kill. Page 160 Sicklucker and Holyflare and talking about Presents making it look like a fight. Holyflare acts frustrated because no one is listening to him and he's the biggest wagon blah blah then randomly says (at the top of page 161) "I sent a present yesterday. Happy birthday."

It's a nothing comment, until after the next night. Someone will mention that they saw my icon change to the happy birthday one, then holyflare can confirm, then you guys can argue about if I opened the present and killed myself.

So, I am going to do my best to disrupt this play. I am going to be perfectly clear and reemphasize that under no condition will I be acknowledging receipt of a present, and I'm also saying under no circumstances will I be opening one. They can not cast doubt by claiming I must have been killed with the death present.

If my 6 are right (OMG SCUMSLIP???) then think about if this is a good play or not. And look at who is involved. Oh, all of them except Templar who is lightly being bussed by Holyflare. Hmmm.


ROFL never listen to a thing this guy says for the rest of the game.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:32 GMT
#3435
On December 16 2014 07:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Back from dinner.

Just checked the rules, nothing in the OP about RB notifications. BH's student mafia rules do say you are notified of getting RBed, but this isn't a BH game.


You are not notified you are roleblocked it says it somewhere. But it also says you can often amuse you were but it doesint say anything about a pm so we might have a slip gotta look into this.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:40 GMT
#3441
If rstoulin is vet he should probably claim before we kill this man.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:42 GMT
#3445
On December 16 2014 08:40 Tubesock wrote:
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On December 16 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 16 2014 08:25 The_Templar wrote:
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is town, is giving Tubesock, who is mafia, a present?

Fixed based on the majority thinking of the situation.

I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense...


I am saying Mafia Holyflare is setting up an excuse to night kill a town by saying it was the death present.

He isn't sending any gift. Gifts can not be verified or confirmed. It's simply smoke and mirrors.


Like no hes not. No one would even believe that. Your the only one who wont admit besides overwhelming evidence that I had the death present.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:49 GMT
#3453
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.

This suggests that hes never notified about a miskill he just has to deduce it (ie nothing happened so he would assume hes roleblock) Looks like hes mafia.

##vote ritoky
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:55 GMT
#3457
Hf being mass murderer makes sense. Its the only mafia motivation to claim a present so late because if that present helps town we can esentially conform him. So Basically it buys him a day. That being said it totally bought him a day lets not lynch holy its just risking 1kp for a confirmed town even trade.
sicklucker
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December 15 2014 23:56 GMT
#3460
Actually since its an even trade we can totally lynch him now mathematically. idc
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:04 GMT
#3467
So both these guys claim to have wasted their presents and the only one we have killed poor little dandred this is so frustrating if there town. Like why does mafia even claim it. It makes some sense for holy to buy him a day but it just makes no sense for ritoky I hate this we might be lynching a town.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:06 GMT
#3471
Actually wait it makes sense if gb is town which I think is still probably true.

The only way a mafia would mention they have a present is if a town sent it to them and they know they will be under suspicion if they dont use it.

So ok gb town ritoky mafia makes sense lets do this.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:08 GMT
#3473
Im saying if ritoky flips mafia that it should clear gb for everyone I dont think you can dispute my logic. I feel better about this lynch now since we can confirm someone high on everyones lynch list.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:11 GMT
#3474
Actually either way gb is town. A mafia would never send a present to a town if ritoky flips town. Hf do you disagree I wanna talk to you about this.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:12 GMT
#3478
Ride or die with gb. Anyone dispute my reasoning? Come at me
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:16 GMT
#3481
On December 16 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 16 2014 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
Im saying if ritoky flips mafia that it should clear gb for everyone I dont think you can dispute my logic. I feel better about this lynch now since we can confirm someone high on everyones lynch list.


If they are mafia together...? Like i said yesterday and you said was silly for no reason?? They just pass it between each other? Gb passed it to his null read after all.


But they dont say they have the present there is 0 mafia motivation to say he has it. (look it got him killed)
So the only way a mafia ritoky would bring it up is if he received it from a town who will suspect him if he doesint use it. In this case ritoky realized gb has him in a corner so comes out and says he has it so the roleblocker will make his kp useless and he will never have to use his present to help town or look scummy..

Ritoky could totally have a kp for mafia. (he probably sent it to someone else) we should kill him
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:20 GMT
#3485
Actually ritoky cant still have the present. Its either gone for real if hes town, or he sent it to his mafia team mate (cough cough hf) That could tottaly explain why hf is stalling with that other bad present. omg maybe we have to kill him first lol!
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:22 GMT
#3490
lian you might be totally right about not killing ritoky today. If ritoky is mafia they probably have 2 extra kp on other mafia members. Ritoky never has the extra kp as because you have to send the present to another player or lose it.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:24 GMT
#3491
On December 16 2014 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 16 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
Actually ritoky cant still have the present. Its either gone for real if hes town, or he sent it to his mafia team mate (cough cough hf) That could tottaly explain why hf is stalling with that other bad present. omg maybe we have to kill him first lol!


Stalling with the present i gave away...?


Yes because if that person is confirmed town your confirmed and you know we know this so we keep you around till tomorrow.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:28 GMT
#3495
So I propose we kill hf first to reduce mafia kp. At the same time whoever sent you the present can come out and town confirm you which is the same as a green check in my book if their an obvious town. We also dont know if mafia has a rb so we can still get two checks still.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:38 GMT
#3503
On December 16 2014 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
I literally have no idea what you ever say and how you even come up with this circular logic. You're like tube but he actually has coherent reasons.


You cant possibly believe this, is this a confession?
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 00:41 GMT
#3505
Like I cant risk posting anymore, or I might really get mod killed I made my case for the day. Vote hf I hope someone picks this case up and carrys it. If not obviously ritoky is fine. Dont start voting anyone else plz like a probable town gb.

See ya tormorow
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 06:04 GMT
#3571
ill vote oats convince others im out of posts hes obv mafia. Ritoky has no extra kp oats might.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 15:29 GMT
#3602
Post where are veg scum read lone meow? Anyway wont be here for vote dont do anything dumb like vote out gb today plz
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 15:36 GMT
#3605
Oh dear this is probably not good for town. Or maybe it is
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 15:44 GMT
#3610
Vivax Is like confirmed town. Explain this should be interesting and kind of random
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 15:52 GMT
#3615
Ls and vivax claimed roles at great risk with little reward. No one counterclaimed they are roles that are only gonna be one of, palmar just wants to mindfuck you. When I say "like confirmed" I say as in like 99% chance. As in you never ever ever vote them out.

Wheres my mafia motivation in hard defending you?
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 15:55 GMT
#3619
Like whoever thinks Ls or vivax are mafia are either a donkey (tubesock) or maybe mafia. Like your confusing me here gb are you a donkey? I dont really know but I doubt it
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#3623
I kinda still think your town but your probably just got yourself killed by making no sense.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#3625
Gb you said yourself only town would send presents to town. So until you prove otherwise you just listed two people you should 100% be reading as town and you look scummy as hell. Which is unfortunate because your town.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:10 GMT
#3627
Also if the veg killed on night one that does not disprove the fact that dandred died to my present. No mass murderer has yet to be proven in this game. So if there was a veg shot it just means theirs no mass murderer. It would be pretty weird for mafia to have two roles with bullets tbh.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#3629
Scenario 1 My world

LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead - Dead to mass murderer
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead - idiot / idiot veg who claimed he was shooting kush
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead - Dead to my present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead - mafia kp 1
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead mafia kp

Scenario 2 Your world

LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead Dead to veg ( I dont see any prove veg even mentioned him)
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Idiot
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Massmurderer or killed by present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Mafia kp1
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Mafia kp 2

In your world there could just be no mass murderer and so I dont know how veg shooting lonemeow disproves my really strong claim. My claim is strong because I brought it up immediately for no reason with 0 motivation. Mafia would never even mention they have a present we have been over this thats the reason im town not because of the night 1 kills...
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#3630
So I went through are vegs filter. Ya he might have totally shot that man and did that whole kush thing as a diversion. This is good news for town there is probably no mass murderer. It does not make me mafia in any way tho, no idea why you brought it up in your case against me.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:30 GMT
#3632
On December 17 2014 00:54 batsnacks wrote:
So you think KSC wasted his vote to give ritoky town credit too?

You think they traded 2 scum for a HF mislynch?

I don't think so.


You guys think I dont bus my own team mate and vote him when he wont even vote to save himself? If I was mafia , I would 100% make my vote land on the mafia thats going to die, I was there at eod.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:32 GMT
#3634
On December 17 2014 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I thought it was already proven obi shot lonemeow? Lonemeow was sick towny and obi said lonemeow was mafia before he shot him


Like I didnt know but only because I didnt care it didnt really matter at the time. Apparently its gbs reason to scum read me and I want to know why
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:35 GMT
#3637
On December 17 2014 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
Sicklucker you maintained that there was no mass murderer for like 2 days and now you're saying there is??


Na thats just a gb lie.

On December 16 2014 09:22 sicklucker wrote:
lian you might be totally right about not killing ritoky today. If ritoky is mafia they probably have 2 extra kp on other mafia members. Ritoky never has the extra kp as because you have to send the present to another player or lose it.


Im operating under the assumption that theres a mass murderer, I was untill now. I think the confuses was when we killed ksc I thought his role was responsible for the extra n1 kill. But gb pointed out to me that he couldnt have shot n1 because no one claimed that role. Ive been operating under that assumption since.

Also what does this have to do with anything?
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#3643
Gb no one believes your shitty case give your analysis before I go to sleep
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 21:14 GMT
#3683
So I think im allowed one most post, im a little surprised no one knows why I dont mind voting out oats. Like 5-10 posts were about it so I know alot of you are not reading very well. If ritiky is mafia then he gave the kill present to a partner. Im fairly sure oats is mafia so its a chance to reduce kp, killing ritoky wont do this but its not a bad kill i just like the big plays. Mafia might just be sacrificing him here to save kp. I did this in my only game as mafia.

I also get more information by turning this landslide vote into something interesting to discuss im confident in my position as town in your eyes so its just the logical thing for me to start discussion and scum hunt oats.

Im still town reread the facts dont let mafia propaganda sway you. I cant post again so stop asking me to explain things that are already in my filter for another hour plz and letting mafia having an excuse to put dirt on me.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:05 GMT
#3730
On December 17 2014 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
So I think im allowed one most post, im a little surprised no one knows why I dont mind voting out oats. Like 5-10 posts were about it so I know alot of you are not reading very well. If ritiky is mafia then he gave the kill present to a partner. Im fairly sure oats is mafia so its a chance to reduce kp, killing ritoky wont do this but its not a bad kill i just like the big plays. Mafia might just be sacrificing him here to save kp. I did this in my only game as mafia.

I also get more information by turning this landslide vote into something interesting to discuss im confident in my position as town in your eyes so its just the logical thing for me to start discussion and scum hunt oats.

Im still town reread the facts dont let mafia propaganda sway you. I cant post again so stop asking me to explain things that are already in my filter for another hour plz and letting mafia having an excuse to put dirt on me.


Lol, guilt by association. I don't think you're high on people's lynch list right now though, SL. Even if some of us probably do have doubts about you.

[b]And I should have known this was a present thing again -_-. Either rit did or didn't open the present. The ks is either gone or he never actually knew what was in the present So this entire line of reasoning you're on is pointless. -facepalms-[b/]


God do you ever stop being condescending. If rit is mafia he lied about opening the present and mafia still has it or he would never claim it. Mafia wont waste a kp like that. And he wouldn't have opened it last night because hes on the chopping block he would have sent it to another mafia member hes sure wont get voted off. Just so if you didnt know mafia lie lol. If he flips mafia the present is in mafias hands.Stop talking like your a no it all when your completely wrong.

Ill post this in an hour so I dont get modkilled.

Also mafia could have claimed either present day 2 without opening it if they had both presents and saw dandred blow up by poe. Everything you said is literally completely wrong just leave the present theory to me ok baby? ;p
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#3731
Well thats good are town circle grows welcome bats. we should be close to auto if we put are shit together.
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December 16 2014 23:10 GMT
#3735
On December 17 2014 07:34 rsoultin wrote:
Glow didn't want to vote rit or HF...-shrugs-
Tube has his conspiracy theories centered on HF (since most of mine center on GB, can't really say anything)
Lian thinks we won't learn anything until HF flips

Viva wants Oats cause he doesn't feel he's contributed at all, thinks rit is a plynch
[b]SL has some KS present theory (lol) ]/b]
Slam...who knows???


Stfu its a fact mafia has the kill present to use whenever they feel like. Its not a theory its a fact and everyone should know about it because it could mean we reach lylo one day earlier.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:14 GMT
#3739
Ya you vivax or me die tonight. I dont honestly believe mafia thinks they can push a mislynch on me. So we lynch hf next does that check out team?
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:16 GMT
#3742
On December 17 2014 08:12 The_Templar wrote:
He actually did try to kill someone then
Nice job bats


Ya that is weird I dont think ritoky trys to save his bullet he had too much presure on him. This means there was a medic save last night or a vet. cool
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:19 GMT
#3744
Like I might have no choiced to not defend gb and let this lynch happen. If hes town and tubesock his town. Thats four or five votes against me the day after tormorow....
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:23 GMT
#3747
If we lynch holy torm. The day after it will be gb , tube + 2 or 3 mafia. Thats a majority looks like they might actually mislynch me. Unless there both mafia I take it back I wont die tonight im the easiest mislynch ever help.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:24 GMT
#3750
Dammit ff have you learned nothing?
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:25 GMT
#3752
Actually ok this is not that bad. If we can agree that ff was the green check then holyflare is confirmed town. Thats like almost auto...
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:26 GMT
#3754
We kill oats. Gb if you guys dont want too but I think hes more likely town then oats.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:27 GMT
#3757
On December 17 2014 08:26 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
Actually ok this is not that bad. If we can agree that ff was the green check then holyflare is confirmed town. Thats like almost auto...


what


MAFIA WOULD NEVER SEND a present to a town. I think ff is the green check everyone probably should. THIS MEANS HF IS TOWN
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:29 GMT
#3759
Fuck but if they have a roleblock he would send it to a confirmed town. Dammit this is hard
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:30 GMT
#3762
But its still really risky we could kill a rb tormorow if they even have one. I dont think hf is the lynch
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:34 GMT
#3765
On December 17 2014 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
First mafia has all the presents, now HF is confirmed town because he sent a present to FF?

Really, SL -_-

Why are you so determined to force the "only town gives presents to town" line down our throats? Are you scared to get lynched. It sure as hell sounds that way.


why are you so against listening to me and solving the game
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:36 GMT
#3766
I promise ill look at that vote again before I decide not to kill hf
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:40 GMT
#3769
Oats could be mafia he missed the vote and most votes in a game where he was town. Froggy could be mafia he missed the vote. I think gb and others missed the vote too.

Like mafia never votes very well from my experience their too scared to change their views. Ksc was also a pretty late wagon.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:51 GMT
#3773
Like I cant even make a case you havent been playing. Thats my case. If you sit and do do nothing for over a week eventually your mafia by poe.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:53 GMT
#3774
Just die bats that vote alone isint enough.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:56 GMT
#3776
Oats has a 3 page filter in a 190 page game. Guys? Like ls, rstun, hts you know hes mafia from this alone based on last game where he had 10x the filter in a much less active game.
sicklucker
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December 16 2014 23:59 GMT
#3778
FF you just received a present from hf. If you think hes mafia why are you opening it?
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 00:00 GMT
#3782
On December 17 2014 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
Just die bats that vote alone isint enough.


plynching oats for being afk is enough though?


To this extent ya. Im more sure of him then hf. Its not a p lynch.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 00:09 GMT
#3788
This is like kids calling each other names. im done for now
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 02:21 GMT
#3814
On December 17 2014 10:35 GlowingBear wrote:
But well, my theory that scum could have hammered HF but didn't was proven right.

If you're still scumreading me, remember that I was the one that started to ask questions about notification to ritoky. This is exactly what I was trying to achieve at that moment. That's why after his answer I asked anyone who was roleblocked day1 to claim.

Also, as holyflare quoted Vivax, LoneMeow was shot by vigi.

Proof one is that Obi said he was reading LM as mafia
Proof two is that, as only 2 kills happened, Obi was shot AND roleblocked, which is TOO accurate night actions for mafia UNLESS they realise obi was the only one scumreading LM. And as they know they didn't shoot LM night one, it was easy to know who to roleblock and kill.


Mass murderer 100% shot on day one its just the correct play so veg didnt kill lonemeow. It doesint matter tho just means are veg really did shoot kush
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December 17 2014 02:23 GMT
#3815
On December 17 2014 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't know if the sudden realisation from Vivax was TMI or smart townie, because it took me long to understand the nightkills.

Also, ritoky probably sent his present to another scum partner when he claimed he was going to open it. HF, please, open your present if you haven't sent it yet.


Hs sent his present to ff how do you miss this? You think ff is town so that means hf is town by the logic you used earlier.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 02:29 GMT
#3818
Gb is not making any sense hes saying because there is one of 10 scenarios where I can be mafia so I am mafia. I would vote him. Hes not even reading this thread hes just trying to throw scum on me thats baseless. He missed the whole ff saying he has a present part which was like an entire page long.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 02:30 GMT
#3819
Like vivax somehow you became my only town thats making any sense what do we do.
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December 17 2014 03:32 GMT
#3831
On December 17 2014 11:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


Okay, I'll give you that. That's actually a fair point. -shrugs- Still don't know if anyone will own up to it, even if they are still alive.


Holy flare had the present yesterday. At night he sent it to ff. FF received it today and cant open it untill tonight. Someone who died n1 or a mafia sent i to hf who had it on d1.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 03:34 GMT
#3832
On December 17 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like people have given a 1000 reasons why ritoky hopping onto me would have actually been a BAD mafia play and people are still talking about that over and over again without acknowledging it. Now we know ritoky was mm, sticking himself in the forefront of the mislynch would have been the worst play of the century.

Will do some actual analysis now because the gb ritoky team i called out day 1 is looking super real right now. Thinking it's templar/oats/gb atm.


This is a very likely world.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 19:32 GMT
#3861
FF just send it to someone else tell the mod you dont want to open it anymore. At least keep mafia in the dark on who has it. Thats your correct play.
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December 17 2014 20:13 GMT
#3870
On December 18 2014 04:55 froggynoddy wrote:
So I have been thinking. I think Mafia had to have the remaining presents as it makes no sense for Rit to guess with a 50% chance of being wrong and leavig yourself vulnerable to a counterclaim. I feel like the only logical play for Ritovky was to claim vig-present to hide a mass-murderer shot and confuse town.

This must (you'd think) have been vetted by his scum-buddies. This means that scum should have had both presents as otherwise the risk would be too great.

So I guess my question is... how does FF have a present as town?


Thats a really good point mafia likely has both presents. I hate to admit it FF but that present might be a bomb lol
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December 17 2014 20:14 GMT
#3871
If veg shot meow then dandred could have been the third kp and death present could still be around.
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December 17 2014 20:18 GMT
#3873
Just send it to someone else you think is town but wont die. If hf flips town and says thats his present its still safe to open at later dates.
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 20:19 GMT
#3874
The fact hf isint claiming that present is SUPER WEIRD. I think he knows its a bomb rofl
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December 17 2014 20:52 GMT
#3881
On December 18 2014 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
unless you mean the name of the person in which case it's up to them whether they want to claim not me


FF already claimed man. Did you send it to him or not? How did you not read 5 pages of this thread? Like you wasted so much of are time and post by missing ff's claim
sicklucker
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December 17 2014 21:22 GMT
#3883
Fine but ive barely been involved in the present thing so its your job to explain this to us. Gb is also on a lynch hunt for you because he thinks you had it yesterday so you might want to address that.

Also if no one claims it yesterday that means you sent it to mafia and thats a great reason to lynch you. Ls was confirmed vivax was confirmed why dont you send it to them? Because your mafia like its so clear now.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 17 2014 21:25 GMT
#3884
Also theres no reason to not say who you sent it too. THERES LITERALLY NO REASON AS TOWN. Only reasons to not say it as mafia.

What your trying to do is your waiting for someone to die tonight and claim they had the present. Claim now or im voting you tormorow and never changing my mind. You have to give that person time to counter claim or your confirmed mafia to me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 21:27 GMT
#3885
Holyflare
oats
Thetemplar , Hts, tube, xata, froggy?

as last mafia in.. I think we won the game boys.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 21:44 GMT
#3888
So hf I was wrong I already looked at lians chart again. That doesint change the fact your mafia for not giving town a chance to cc who you sent the present to (because you didnt)

To bats I was trying to keep who I was voting for a secret to not affect the night kills so fu you for that but I am voting hf and maybe dieing so ill leave my potential last will and testameny.

Lynch holy then oats pretty self explanatory then...

The templar- Ive played with him once before when I was mafia and got him mislynched. He fought with tooth and nails against it posted like 10 page filters in defense. Here hes like vanished and just sheeped people on non mafia targets, hes my first kill

HTs - Played with her . she played extremely stronger as a town and I was ride or die with her d1. Here shes been so quite and under the radar we probably have to kill her at some point that might be in lylo tho.

Rstoulin - Could go either way we need to filter dive him. I feel like hes trying way too hard to get a town lynched which is why im a bit skeptical

Xata - Could still be mafia hes fell off alot. Im sure theres things in his or rstoulin filter that can prove their alignment so lets look into these people the most boys

Slam - Meh cant read probably town? Dont take my word on this

Froggy - I dont know but he made really good points just now about the present and why ff should not open it. Think hes finally got my town read

Gb - Totally town but there gonna push a mislynch on him.

FF- Town probably gonna open that present and kill himself (dont open this present ever unless we can make a family history tree of where it came from

Me, bats , ls, vivax. All town dont worry were the next 4 night kills.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 21:47 GMT
#3890
And liam idk forgot hes even in this game. Filter dive him hard im sure theirs evidence. I think hes wanted hf gone the most so that could confirm him.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 21:49 GMT
#3891
On December 18 2014 06:35 Holyflare wrote:
Even hypothetically if i sent it to mafia then that mafia sent it to fecalfeast the mafia gains ridiculous town credit for sending it to a green check.

There's literally no reason for me to claim the name at all because it's already proven that the fucking present exists because fecal has it.

If someone else sent fecal a present that didn't originally get it from me they just counter claim and i die.

Your points are all asinine and not well thought through at all.


Good because your going to die anyway and whoever cc's you would be mafia? Like your stance is so anti town right now it cant possibly come from a town.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 21:59 GMT
#3893
Well hf and oats are kind of auto lynches from this point on so consider yourself up for the next lynch that matters! Do we get 80 new posts at the end of night or beginning of night? If its not the later I might be in trouble so ill stop posting for now.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:22 GMT
#3899
Like just dont open it ff. Send it to a town like me who can maybe use it later when the rb is dead. They have a roleblocker so the risk outweights the reward even if you forget the fact that mafia obviously sent this to you. Please play to win. Opening it is against your win condition considering these facts.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:23 GMT
#3900
On December 18 2014 07:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Who cares about that I mean really


No ones claiming to have sent it to him so its an obvious mafia bomb are you slow? If its from a town that town would tell him who he is to gain his trust.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:27 GMT
#3901
I think ff is leaning towards opening it because he doesint want to play hes so transparent. Hes about to pull a kush and its eating me alive. People need to play to win.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:46 GMT
#3903
FF heres why mafia sends you that present. They have both remaining presents. Im assuming they killed dandred and know that the kill present is live because thats the only reason they would send it. So the present is 50% kill. They want you to open it because if its not the kill present they just rb you anyway. So if your opening it you have a 50% to die and a 0% chance to use the good one because they will rb you.

The correct play is to just pass it to a town and we can risk the 50/50 at a later date and can dodge the rb.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:48 GMT
#3905
FF just you know im right. Im claiming dandred died to mafia now. It makes me look bad im taking a big risk to save you here.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 22:52 GMT
#3908
LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead killed by veg
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead killed by marlet
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead killed by mafia
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead killed by mafia
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead killed by mafia

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 23:08 GMT
#3915
Froggy interesting. If you opened it or not ff just say you didnt. Thats pretty obvious
##vote holyflare

Hes just throwing out blantant lies at night like dandred had to have been killed by a present which even I admit ow is not true trying to goat poor lil ff into opening it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 23:11 GMT
#3918
Na ff your present went through to me im never opening it so whatever.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 23:17 GMT
#3924
To deceive mafia apparently I failed hard.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 23:25 GMT
#3926
On December 18 2014 04:55 froggynoddy wrote:
So I have been thinking. I think Mafia had to have the remaining presents as it makes no sense for Rit to guess with a 50% chance of being wrong and leavig yourself vulnerable to a counterclaim. I feel like the only logical play for Ritovky was to claim vig-present to hide a mass-murderer shot and confuse town.

This must (you'd think) have been vetted by his scum-buddies. This means that scum should have had both presents as otherwise the risk would be too great.

So I guess my question is... how does FF have a present as town?


This is why froggy got lynched btw and why I town read him. What he said is true and means hf is mafia. Also he says he doesint want to vote gb. Gb is clearly mafias mislynch target so killing him is one vote in their favor.

He might be wrong about wrong about some of it but not that mafia has both presents. Me and him both agree with this

Ls please change your vote from gb to holyflare if you think im town. Sheep me

Both nks were votes against holyflare. Both nightkills would not have voted gb. Holyflare is mafia.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 00:12 GMT
#3932
On December 18 2014 08:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I was thinking the plan was to implicate me as GF but then froggy died.

One question: why are you still alive SL?


Im claimed vt we still have a possible medic. Froggy or bats were potential medics. There still role hunting.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 00:20 GMT
#3936
First question mark that gives valid reasons to lynch holy gets to never be lynched.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 00:37 GMT
#3938
And thats why your not a qeustion mark . Ls or vivax also dont count or gb
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 01:02 GMT
#3944
Gb can still be mafia. But hes so less likely and he correctly explain why hf is mafia. your on my mafia radar now the line in the sand has been drawn. Hf basicly claimed by not telling us who he sent the present to if you didnt read the thread.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 01:11 GMT
#3946
I mean I thought that about ritoky. Maybe palmer made some crazy rule where some mafia had to claim a present.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 03:56 GMT
#3960
God why are 3 towns voting gb this is absurd. You dont see hts, oats , the templar voting there scum buddy hf but you guys?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 04:58 GMT
#3979
Wow hts is scum. There is a good case wtf are you guys talking about. Im not wasting my post to say it when me and gb have posted the same case. hint hint HE WONT TELL US WHO HE SENT THE PRESENT TOO SO THEY CANT CC HIM
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 05:02 GMT
#3981
On December 17 2014 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
HOLYFLARE, YOU GAVE THE PRESENT TO WHO?

Answer this or you're going to get lynched tomorrow, I guarantee.

Argh it's too hard to stop posting


On December 17 2014 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
If FF has got the present from holyflare, I want to know who gave the present to him.

Who was it?

I'm making a fucking ton of sense and any townie can clearly see my stream of thoughts.


On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


On December 18 2014 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Bah, if you guys can't see me as town after everything I've wrote, nothing will.
Have in mind that the probability of the Mass Murderer holding his shot day1 is very very low, which means damdred was shot instead of killed by the death present.

This leads to two possibilities:
1) Sicklucker claimed giving the present to Damdred as mafia because he knew that mafia was going to shoot damdred and that he would gain towncred for the giving thing (less likely)
2) As mafia knew sicklucker was dumb enough to claim to who he gave the present, they simply shot the present bearer (more likely)

kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead

Although two disgruntled died, I now find hard to believe they were shot by the banker. Because the guys who were shot are very strong players, and if mafia decided to take a risk to waste a kp on kush, useless player (sorry kush); I don't know what to say. This means there's obviously a Marley. Sigh.

There is no way mafia had perfect two actions on the vigi at the same time without having privileged information. As they couldn't have used a rolecop present, neither have a rolecop power, they knew obi was the vigi because LoneMeow died. That's how obis shot didn't get through. I doubt obi, as the aggressive player he is (not hostile, but aggressive), he wouldn't hold his shot.

This leads to another theory: knowing it was obi the vigilante, they knew they had to roleblock him. With two disgruntled dead, the banker wasn't really a power role anymore, so he could be sacrificed. Which means holyflare is probably the roleblocker. He was kept alive to prevent obis shot. And the mass murderer, with two shots wasted, could be lynched. But nothing better than mislynching. So I reaction tested people into lynching outside the main wagons on day3. Search for people who instantly agreed and pushed hard another lynch.

This is a post who confirms holyflare as mafia:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 17 2014 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


I didn't send the present to fecal you tool i got the present n1 and sent it on day 2. That person then sent it to fecal day 3 and here we are with fecal receiving it n3.


He is omitting the person who he sent the present. There is no town motive to keep it as a secret, because there is nothing that could make mafia kill the one who has no present anymore.
Do you know why he omitted it?
Because if he is mafia and sent the present to a partner;
A) if he lies and says he sent to a townie, the townie will say he never got the present from him
B) if he says it was a mafia partner, if HF is lynched and flips red, he automatically incriminates his partner.

I was waiting to see if Holyflare would answer me so we could have two mafia to kill, but it seems HF is ignoring me (by the time I've made this post).

Now, with holyflare flipping mafia, take a look at rsoultin. He's been discrediting me for no reason, hard defending HF the whole game for no reason either, and he is not doing ANYTHING to get his scumreads lynched.
There is a post from rsoultin in the thread where, when I say I'm going to post part2 on HFs case, he says it wouldn't be necessary. Do you see town motivation behind this phrase? Looking at this post in a vacuum, I can't see a world where town could possibly deny his scumread into giving reads on someone. I can see a world where scum is trying to put down a potential case on his partner.
This is unflipped, so, HF must flip to get this read right.

So, take a look at him. It's very strange the way he is pushing things. But for his effort and high post count, he could be town or very good scum.

Go after liancourt because he was the guy who most draw attention regarding voting someone else outside the ritoky/HF wagon.

I've noted this yesterday, please take a look:
+ Show Spoiler +

Scum hammered KSC because they needed HF to roleblock obi, as they knew obi was the vigi.

Mass murderer lost his last shot which means he was useless and holyflare was more important. Search for people who wanted to lynch other people or ended up on ritoky on the last second. People on HF wagon are probably town. Whoever wanted to lynch HF but decided another person was better and tried to push this other vote is most likely mafia.

In the votecounts, if you can find people wasting their votes on day1, hammering KSC day2 and voting oats day3, the probability of being mafia is huge.


Townreads based solely on feelings and not thinking on objective arguments:
Slam
Tubesock
Rsoultin
SL
(Yes, I KNOW how this sounds contradictory, but it isn't, because I'm talking about gut feelings without consider any objective argument. I'm reading SL and Rsoultin as possible scum considering other arguments and NOT gut feeling).

This is my last post, unfortunately.

(I was waiting to see if HF would post a name, but since he didn't post it until now and people are already saying he won't say, I'm posting it)



I came to the same conclusion before I read gb's post Thats how I know gb is town and hf is mafia. When I confronted holyflare at the end of last night he blatantly lied and clearly wanted ff to open the present.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 05:42 GMT
#3987
Just because its a "present case" doesint mean its not real life.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 05:45 GMT
#3989
Your lieing again. They have every incentive to send a present. They expected ff to use it and hopefully die. If he dont die they simply just roleblock him? Its a pretty easy thing to understand. The fact the present was sent to ff should tell you something. I dont think many good towns are sending it to him. As for mafia hes a good target anyone who knows ff, knows hes super bored and wants out.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 06:14 GMT
#3991
HE CLAIMS. we know 2 presents are in mafia hands because we lost track of them. He had to have recieved it from someone in this game as of yesterday. Tref and whoever else died scum reading him and would not have sent him a present. He would not say who he sent it to BECAUSE NO ONE SENT IT TO HIM AND THEY WOULD CALL HIM OUT. Basically no one sent him this present so hes mafia fake claiming?. Theres no reason for a town to not say who they sent it too



We dont know who sent it to him, we dont know where it went after him no town claimed and he wont tell us. Like he never had any present he just claimed one that mafia had this is so basic stuff what are you confused about? Its a really solid case
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 09:22 GMT
#4011
Me and vivax have the same top 3 scum. This is not a coincidence. Put the pressure on them boys. Also vote hf....
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 18 2014 22:13 GMT
#4113
At first glance hf pushing voting templar seemed townie to me but I dont think so anymore. But like he has the perfect excuse to vote gb to save himself so why push him. Why not have two options and he might gain templar cred when he dies.
Like im working under the assumption there is 6 mafia or maybe more in this game theres too many scummy people. hts, templar, holyflare ,oats I have each of these as like 90% scum or a role. and theirs xata and putin who have not really proved their town to me.

On December 19 2014 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
I was under the assumption you'd instantly vote for templar after agreeing with the case. It's what I expect everyone to do, yet I don't really see anyone doing it. Strange (not really because he's mafia).

It's no question on who to vote for you because you just shouldn't give a shit if the cases are that good it's just lynching between 2 mafia.


I dont like this post of his.

If we kill outside of holyflare I want it to be oats or preferably hts I think just because holy isint pushing them... There all mafia to me
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 19 2014 00:00 GMT
#4136
Im totally down for a mass claim we have a medic at best and even thats probably not true since he missed so many easy saves like obi trefel and bats. So we probably have a useless snowman.

Hf I said you give templar town cred when you die and flip mafia not whatever you thought. Im done working with you this game you just shit on everything I say and you usually dont read it properly.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 19 2014 01:01 GMT
#4158
On December 19 2014 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
the amount of arrogance in this thread is stifling, from whichever quarter or whichever alignment. people talking about others "doing the right thing" and there's only one possible good lynch gets on my nerves -_- there are at least two scumbuckets left. that we can know for sure. so there is not only one possible "correct" lynch.

for instance, vivax bugs me because he comes in complaining about people discussing WIFOM presents, but at the same time bases a good portion of his reads off of WIFOM night kills. i'm not certain if he just doesn't realize that both are equal amounts of scum would/wouldn't do this because it's too stupid/we'd think it's too stupid or not, but the double-standard makes me twitch. then there's his reads, which he seems more than willing to ditch for the first convenient case that comes along, no matter how weak...

which makes me wonder why he'll sheep GB's case on HF and HF's case on Templar but not trfel's case on KSC or my case on GB. Since he has yet to explain his own reasoning for going with others' cases...that seems very suspicious to me. "it sounded good" or "it convinced me" from him, when he's making his own reads, is just squirrely

lian obviously is a big question mark. His reasoning is absolutely non-existent, and he refuses to give any. I also don't trust anyone who seems to be planning out his lynches in advance. even some of the most stubborn here will change a vote as the situation changes, but not him

so no, I don't agree with this "do the right thing" or "you must vote so-and-so" bs. makes me want to kick y'all


Speaking of arrogance Have you not considered Its because your case is not as good? . Please stop putting scum on confirmed towns or I really will try to get you voted out later on.

On December 19 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
Like the case is so super solid that even if I was mafia I'm handing you a mafia on a plate so you should be jumping on that shit anyway?? He even returned to say the meta was meh and never said anything about any other part of it. If he does claim a role you'll know he's mafia too because he already claimed joyful child. How perfect is that?

Free mafia lynch!


Like I agree but your good enough to confuse these players ( you already are) I wanna get you out while we can , you already killed two votes against you last night you will kill two votes against you tonight and bam you win. The fact your trying to stall another day makes me want to kill you even more.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 19 2014 01:07 GMT
#4160
Heres holyflares mafia strategy. Lynch a team mate or gb if he has the numbers he has the perfect excuse to change his vote and save himself. Tomorrow if templars lynched as town or mafia regardless he gets a free lynch on gb because he will kill two votes against himself. Then it will be lylo with 2 or 3 mafia with a potential kp present in there hands. He will have gained a little town cred in the process.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 01:57 GMT
#4170
On December 19 2014 10:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
Heres holyflares mafia strategy. Lynch a team mate or gb if he has the numbers he has the perfect excuse to change his vote and save himself. Tomorrow if templars lynched as town or mafia regardless he gets a free lynch on gb because he will kill two votes against himself. Then it will be lylo with 2 or 3 mafia with a potential kp present in there hands. He will have gained a little town cred in the process.


Alright, question for not only SL but other vets who've played with HF as scum - basically you lot are saying his strategy to win as scum is 1) bus people as needed and 2) eliminate votes against himself in some way. Am I understanding you correctly? Where are you getting the "free lynch on GB" or do you mean he's going to NK GB?

Also SL, using what you just said, the two people who died, I know Bats wanted to kill HF, but I just went through Froggy's filter, and I don't see any anti-HF sentiment in there. I see twice on page 2 of the filter, he says he wants to lynch GB over HF.



On December 18 2014 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 18 2014 04:55 froggynoddy wrote:
So I have been thinking. I think Mafia had to have the remaining presents as it makes no sense for Rit to guess with a 50% chance of being wrong and leavig yourself vulnerable to a counterclaim. I feel like the only logical play for Ritovky was to claim vig-present to hide a mass-murderer shot and confuse town.

This must (you'd think) have been vetted by his scum-buddies. This means that scum should have had both presents as otherwise the risk would be too great.

So I guess my question is... how does FF have a present as town?


This is why froggy got lynched btw and why I town read him. What he said is true and means hf is mafia. Also he says he doesint want to vote gb. Gb is clearly mafias mislynch target so killing him is one vote in their favor.

He might be wrong about wrong about some of it but not that mafia has both presents. Me and him both agree with this

Ls please change your vote from gb to holyflare if you think im town. Sheep me

Both nks were votes against holyflare. Both nightkills would not have voted gb. Holyflare is mafia.


Hes basically saying hf and ff are scum here so he would have voted hf. It makes perfect sense accept the ff part could be explained by mafia having a rb and knowing they have a kill present still live.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 02:02 GMT
#4171
" I think Mafia had to have the remaining presents as it makes no sense for Rit to guess with a 50% chance of being wrong and leavig yourself vulnerable to a counterclaim"

That means he thinks hf and ff are fakeclaiming, that means hes voting hf. Its not super obvious so that explains why mafia killed. This is really simple stuff dont let the great froggy die in vien.

And if you think about it HES COMPLETELY RIGHT THIS PROVES WITHOUT ANY DISPUTE HF IS MAFIA. Ritoky claimed a present. He would only do this if mafia has both because dandred died with one.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 02:18 GMT
#4175
Guys can you just sheep me here Im confident I have this figured out. When you realize HF is mafia and gb is town for the information hes brought against him this game is actually winnable. If you guys keep running around like chickens with no heads this game becomes unwinnable.

Rputin I ignore your case because I know gb is town. I can only really prove this when hf flips mafia. Can you explain why mine, froggys, and gb's case doesint tell you hf is mafia? You keep using the same excuse "its present related". But the facts are mafia wont claim a present unless they are sure it cant be counter claimed. This means hf is 100% lieing about his already sketchy claim.

Like how more obvious can this get? Im running out of posts and your completely ignoring the facts. If your town you need to realize the truth because when hf flips mafia were going to have to lynch you as of now and that might lose us this game.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 02:21 GMT
#4177
On December 19 2014 11:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On December 19 2014 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
Oats, can we get some reads from you, please? I agree with a good number of your comments...but at the same time countering SL is kinda obvious anyway. The guy doesn't think.

hf 2bad2bescum
lian scum
vivax scum
gb not scum
xata scum.

about this for now yeah.


These reads are terrible
100% mafia if hf flips mafia. Makes me feel better about xata and a little bit worried about gb. Ty for helping town out come again
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 07:31 GMT
#4183
On December 19 2014 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 19 2014 11:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys can you just sheep me here Im confident I have this figured out. When you realize HF is mafia and gb is town for the information hes brought against him this game is actually winnable. If you guys keep running around like chickens with no heads this game becomes unwinnable.

Rputin I ignore your case because I know gb is town. I can only really prove this when hf flips mafia. Can you explain why mine, froggys, and gb's case doesint tell you hf is mafia? You keep using the same excuse "its present related". But the facts are mafia wont claim a present unless they are sure it cant be counter claimed. This means hf is 100% lieing about his already sketchy claim.

Like how more obvious can this get? Im running out of posts and your completely ignoring the facts. If your town you need to realize the truth because when hf flips mafia were going to have to lynch you as of now and that might lose us this game.


If I had a present I wouldn't counter-claim, because I'd want to use what was in it without getting shot or RBd. If I had a present I wouldn't really be interested in drawing attention to myself in relation to presents at all. Assuming mafia doesn't have all of them, it's not the worst way to find out where the presents are at and remove that possible threat. So no, I don't agree with your point. Sorry. And you threatening to lynch me after HF (who I believe is town anyway, or at least more likely to be town than a few in this thread) isn't going to sway me. I'm not acting scummy and I'm not afraid of being lynched. -shrugs-

I'm also not much of a sheep. As soon as someone starts throwing around the 100% mafia stuff I tend to tune out because the only possible way to know that for sure is if you're santa and have a blue check or you're scum, in which case I'd be dumb to listen to you anyway.

Also, apologies for the snark. I wrote that before seeing your response.

The "knowing GB is town" thing is a BS answer though. How can you possibly know that, SL? You do realize you've been more or less parroting him all game?


No one would counter claim the present untill after they use it , but the point is they would counter claim it eventually so thats bs. And no one has used one . vt's would not pass a present on thats what hf is claiming . Your not as good as you think you are I sheeped in my first games. To me I feel like you just want to be right rather then seeing the truth. The fact is my case against hf is better then your case against gb. I can explain why hf is mafia in like 1 line. Your long post is all circumstantial and gb can play pretty bad as town.

Im 99% sure hf is scum. How sure are you on gb?
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 09:36 GMT
#4192
Mafia might be dividing on the gb/templar vote to switch and save hf her. Like this is a horrible idea why cant we just lynch hf? Like the templar was a great lynch for me before but not so much since hf,oats and ff are the first 3 votes and pushing this.

Vivax/ slam why are you sheeping your scum reads wtf?

God I wanted to sleep in but I dont trust you guy.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 10:25 GMT
#4196
Im not too interested in wasting my posts battling you im saving them to convince others close to vote. Ya templars probably scum. But yes you would bus him, this templar thing didnt start until it was very clear you were getting out voted over gb. Then you started this train.

You are claiming a vt who decided not to open a present and help town win.

Theres no wifmo in my case

1. Any vt ever would open this present. Your not a power role theres no reason for you not to take the 1/3 risk to become one its literally the only correct play. You also claim your on vacation and you shouldnt be playing mafia. Another reason you would totally take this risk for town. Your lieing

2. Ritoky claims kp present. He would only ever do this if hes sure he cant be counter claimed. This means mafia has the two remaining presents because we all know I sent one to dandred and he died because of it or with it. This again means your lieing because

3. Ritoky and ksc could kill you over ksc. They choose not to.

4. Bats, obiwan, tref, froggy All thought you were mafia. They are dead

5. We ask you who we sent the present too before ff. You ignore and then refuse to tell us. The reason for this is simple its in mafias hands. If you name a town they will deny it and you will be confirmed mafia. If you ask a mafia to help you out they will be guilty by association therefor it is your only play as mafia.

Like theres more thats just off the top of my head. I would quit this forum if im wrong here. Im that sure.
Vote hf not who he wants you to vote
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 11:13 GMT
#4202
#1 Meh your overconfident then but youve made excuses that you dont want to play this game so im not totally buying it

#2 Ritoky Didnt claim kp for like along time after he claimed present. It was well know that dandred died with a present by then. Mafia might have even targeted dandred because I telegraphed sending it to him. I said Dandred died with a present right after nks were announced pretty much the same time ritoky said he had one maybe before not really super important, what matters is when he claimed what was inside it. Mafia wouldn't risk opening it and dying so it took alot of balls to make that claim if they didnt have full control.

4.QUOTE]On December 19 2014 11:02 sicklucker wrote:
" I think Mafia had to have the remaining presents as it makes no sense for Rit to guess with a 50% chance of being wrong and leavig yourself vulnerable to a counterclaim"

That means he thinks hf and ff are fakeclaiming, that means hes voting hf. Its not super obvious so that explains why mafia killed. This is really simple stuff dont let the great froggy die in vien.

And if you think about it HES COMPLETELY RIGHT THIS PROVES WITHOUT ANY DISPUTE HF IS MAFIA. Ritoky claimed a present. He would only do this if mafia has both because dandred died with one.[/QUOTE]
Hes basically saying hf and ff are scum here so he would have voted hf.

5. BULLSHIT this one needs no explaining. Towns give towns information to win the game. Your not even defending the point your just putting scum on me. It makes sense since this is the best point and cant be countered.

Dont worry I wont be quitting and im possibly outplaying my former coaches this game.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 11:29 GMT
#4204
Like ill totally look at gb later his game has def been off. Like the reason im town reading him mainly is because some of my points I got from him and there REALLY GOOD. Maybe he just gave me to much info if you know what I mean. Either way we learn alot about him with an hf flip
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 11:51 GMT
#4209
On December 19 2014 20:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like ill totally look at gb later his game has def been off. Like the reason im town reading him mainly is because some of my points I got from him and there REALLY GOOD. Maybe he just gave me to much info if you know what I mean. Either way we learn alot about him with an hf flip


You could also learn about HF with a GB flip yet you arbitrarily choose HF first.

Look at the the interactions between them and flipped scum and come back with the insight that GB looks worse off it. The time he starts pushing HF is at some point after votes ritoky.


Wth is arbitrary about me choosing to lynch hf before gb. its something i have been pushing for over a week and I think hes a for sure thing. No theres nothing arbitrary about it. Im not going to change my mind at 7am when I cant sleep or look at gb now. If im alive tomorrow we can worry about him. Get your vote back on him.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 11:55 GMT
#4210
Omg vivax what are you doing you literally voting for everyone up for lynch. You clearly dont have a strong opinion one way or the other so sheep me please because I do. I think your throwing this
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 12:00 GMT
#4211
On December 18 2014 13:17 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare


On December 19 2014 11:10 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: the_templar


On December 19 2014 20:25 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Glowingbear


lol?

like if you cant trust yourself how can town trust you. Follow me folks
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 21:29 GMT
#4311
On December 20 2014 00:03 rsoultin wrote:
I haven't been sold on the kill present theory for Damdred for a bit. It does imply that SL is scum, though, which people don't seem to like. That or that he was just highly transparent (which I can see, cause I've posted how his posts read Day 1 before to demonstrate that it wasn't really rocket science, figuring out who SL gave the present to).


It does not mean im scum at all. Please explain? Im a strong believer that the kill present is still live now since ff received one. Because in my world he only recieves one if hes mafia or mafia knows the kill present is left.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 21:38 GMT
#4314
On December 20 2014 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
If we lynch holyflare and he flips town, we can trust his case on Templar as legit and kill scum.
If we lynch holyflare and he flips mafia, I'm gonna masturbate to a photo of me.

I can't see me working this game out without lynching holyflare


This vote holyflare wtf. Templar is literally who hf wants us to vote. You guys are voting who a PRIME suspect Confirmed mafia to me wants you to vote. He could tottaly be busing but I dont want to take that risk when we have for sure mafia in are crosshairs.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 21:44 GMT
#4318
On December 20 2014 05:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
By all means, if someone can prove the death present is still out there it would make me feel less bad for leaving the present unopened.


I already proved its more likely left. If your town its 100% around so only you can know. Either way if theres a chance and we know they have a rb (we do because veg didnt shoot) you should have never opened it

Oh my god mafia plz kill me I want out of this game.

Templar can you claim your role plz?
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 21:45 GMT
#4319
On December 20 2014 06:42 The_Templar wrote:
So, when I flip town, which of you won't be voting HF?


Like ill be dead, lian will be dead and the donkeys still wont be convinced and vote out gb. If you are town and I dont get this vote changed we straight up lose so help plz?
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 21:59 GMT
#4324
Oh wait I just read what a sk is. Oh my god we are gonna turn on each other its lord of the flys.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:00 GMT
#4325
Ah that was wrong thread... Ignore my last post. Are we voting hf yet?
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:03 GMT
#4327
Hts what do I have to do to convinced you? Like in are last game where we won you sheeped me if im not mistaken. Here your pushing mafia agenda. What can I do to change your mind? Why are you so interested in this game all of a sudden
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:06 GMT
#4331
On December 20 2014 07:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, HF said he wouldn't be around for EoD.


Where did he say this? I just scanned can you quote where he says this or im acualy going to assume you got this out of the emafia qt
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:10 GMT
#4337
Are you guys serious? We needa vote count bad and to go on a mafia....
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:19 GMT
#4340
HF WANTS US TO KILL tEMPLAR I dont want to kill who a mafia tells us to kill.

If templars his team mate you guys will never lynch hf thats abundantly clear. If hes a mislynch thats even worse
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#4349
no ty
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#4352
Make it oats and im down
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#4355
Theres too many scummy people for me to think the donkeys mafia anymore
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:32 GMT
#4363
ohhhh my goddd you guys have lost your minds. How is tube more scummy then oats. Hf Oats templar in that order for me.

LETS DO OATS
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:33 GMT
#4366
rsoultin might just be straight up mafia ring leader at this point lol. Prove your not by going on oats.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:34 GMT
#4368
like I was the #1 person against tubesocks and even I think this is atrocious whats that tell you
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:42 GMT
#4386
On December 20 2014 07:40 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I'm on the fence about Oats.

But since I'm scumreading GB and leaning scum on SL, anyone they want so desperately I'm reluctant to move to, to be frank.


And im scum reading alot of the people who are blindly following you. Id rather templar if we cant compromise. But hf you donkey...
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:54 GMT
#4407
Gb we switch to templar if it comes to it.
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:57 GMT
#4411
I know.. your preaching to the choir I thought are two votes could lynch templar which I think is a better vote but even then its still a tie and tubes lynched whatever.

Speaking of choir why hasint are choir singer claimed yet? One more confirmed town helps us alot
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 22:58 GMT
#4416
Gb calm down if you me and tube all switch to templar we at least have a better shot at hitting mafia. Im doing it follow me
##unvote ##vote The_Templar
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 23:00 GMT
#4420
ff.fuseriously
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 23:36 GMT
#4433
So hum holyflare tried to hammer tube lol? You guys are playing so bad.

hf
hts
xata
maybe templar?

scumteam

sicklucker
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December 19 2014 23:37 GMT
#4434
On December 20 2014 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow Tubesock really wasn't a good town T_T We need to think about tomorrows Lynch or Lose. Tubesock I sorry but those slips made me look at you way to scummy sorry bro T_T


NO SHIT SHEEP ME PUTIN IS LOSING US THIS GAME
sicklucker
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December 19 2014 23:42 GMT
#4443
On December 20 2014 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 08:37 sicklucker wrote:
On December 20 2014 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow Tubesock really wasn't a good town T_T We need to think about tomorrows Lynch or Lose. Tubesock I sorry but those slips made me look at you way to scummy sorry bro T_T


NO SHIT SHEEP ME PUTIN IS LOSING US THIS GAME


Yo, we should be both on the same team, bro. Make sense and I'll sheep you.


Im not on your team ever this game. Get on my team or claim mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 19 2014 23:49 GMT
#4450
me and lian die. Holy never gets lynched this is sad. Games pretty over I know who the scum is but I can never get anyone to vote with me...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 00:28 GMT
#4477
On December 20 2014 08:54 rsoultin wrote:
If I wasn't reading gb as scum and lian ever bothered to justify his reads, I might vote with you, sl. Come on, guys, if you really believe HF is scum, convince me/us. You don't really need that many more votes. I just don't see the logic behind the present/set-up speculation keep being thrown my way ><


Then your just bad and im never going to convince you. Ive made like 1000 word essays on it. The point is your leading horrible mislynches and you cant trust your reads this game. Stop being a leader plz.
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 00:30 GMT
#4481
Like were probably in lylo considering the amount of people I scum read btw.
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 00:31 GMT
#4482
On December 20 2014 09:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 09:27 liancourt wrote:
On December 20 2014 09:19 Holyflare wrote:
On December 20 2014 09:15 liancourt wrote:
It ll be 8 3 tomorrow
5 3 the next day and ml town lose

we have 1 ml left.

lynch hf


No it'll be 7 v 3 and mislynch and it's lose because 4v3 is unwinnable even if we lynch mafia


U dont have a shred of doubt that maf are 3.

ras says assuming....well

Read into what u will but regardless we need to lynch hf like gb and what i said for the past 3 days

Are we going to keep discussing hf when he is obvious scum???

With 4 mafia, it's nearly unwinnable isn't it?


Lynch hf
then oats
then hts
then xata

and we probably win but no ones gonna do this so whatever
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 01:06 GMT
#4498
On December 20 2014 09:36 Holyflare wrote:
If it's 4 mafia this game is 100% over


Like this game could already be mathameticly over like 99% of the time. For example we can still win with multiple medic saves could be a reason its not over
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 02:11 GMT
#4537
On December 20 2014 10:47 liancourt wrote:
Hf just kill me

i know ur going to kill hts ls vivax

but kill me first i want to die


like me too hf. Wellplayed stop the slowroll and put us out are misery towns not voting you out.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 02:14 GMT
#4538
Gb im not paroting you plzzzzz. Im pushing hf harder then anyone lian is way above you as well. Infact im disappointed your not pushing him harder. Like we have similar reads but your just not working with me or helping me convince other towns. Maybe we have similar reads you know because hf is an obvious mafia?
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 02:15 GMT
#4540
On December 20 2014 11:07 liancourt wrote:
Gb stop sheeping my reads



and me like your literally sheeping us and trying to take more credit while doing alot less then us, which I think you do as town tbh.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 08:05 GMT
#4564
Vivax if you didnt split are votes on hf/templar this would not have happened. Your as guilty as them.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 08:13 GMT
#4567
Na you would get lynched if they used. I was also here at eod and voted on templar. So you cant put any scum on me here but keep trying.
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 08:16 GMT
#4568
On December 20 2014 08:23 Palmar wrote:
templar: 5 - sicklucker, oatsmaster, alakaslam, holyflare, vivax
holyflare: 4 - fecalfeast, tubesock, glowingbear, liancourt
tubesock: 5 - lightningstrike, xatalos, templar, rsoultin, half the sky

This is my final votecount. Seeing as tubesock was the first person to reach 5 votes between the two (templar was at 4 until sicklucker's last counted vote), the lynch is:

Tubesock


See I voted templar. The reason I tried switching to you was because I knew templar lost the tiebreak and ff's vote switch confused me. My goal was always to get templar lynched over tube.

Your so desperate to put scum and make yourself look good your always lieing out of your teeth
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 08:25 GMT
#4570
The tube case came out of no where lead by two donks and 3 probable mafia who pretty much all voted at the same time making them win thetie break. I literally cried to everyone not voting templar to move to him. You cant put this on me I was the most active guy at the deadline trying to get it off of tubesock. Your unreal. No one else made any effort to save him.

On December 20 2014 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
Gb calm down if you me and tube all switch to templar we at least have a better shot at hitting mafia. Im doing it follow me
##unvote ##vote The_Templar

sicklucker
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December 20 2014 08:27 GMT
#4571
On December 20 2014 17:19 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not calling you mafia. I'm calling you terrible. I have in fact defended you today by calling you town based on your actions in the game (you know.. Not wifom and how you actually play this game, god forbid you actually read what's happening in this game) while people like gb and rsoul started to throw suspicion on you.

The votes are tied 5-5 and tube got lynched because you tried to push a wagon on me that nobody agreed with you on and had to resort to 10.59 switching. You spammed your case all day and people disagreed with it and realised there were alternative town scenarios when you haven't done that at all. You pursued no other wagon or made any effort to find or lynch any other mafia at allespecially as there are most likely 3-4 mafia left. You cannot blame vivax because of your many shortcomings.


ROFLMAOROFLMAORFOALMROFALM. How can people believe this man
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 08:35 GMT
#4574
Ok so I propose this ( mostly because it will get me killed in the night)

Im 100% sure hts and oats are mafia . Im actually less sure about hf now then them so I propose we kill them and ignore each other.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 08:57 GMT
#4577
I never said ff was a likely mafia like ever? I just said it was possible he was the non green check role. Ya I thought templar is total scum and he still probably is. But because you pushed him I want to lynch him after the two other obvious mafia for obvious reasons.

Hts is my top mafia read now I would say its strongly meta. In her first campus game where we were town leaders we won the game together basically. There she was a tryhard here she barely posted and here its only when its convient for mafia like that tubesock lynch. Her filter is like 1/10th of her game as town. Shes afraid to interact with me and never responds. The list just goes on and on.

Ill push her tomorrow were like in triple lylo so the order wont matter anymore im going for my most highest percent chance first.

Can you tell me why shes town if you dont agree?
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 09:20 GMT
#4584
Like this is sad but I see too many scum that I have to give hf more thought as town.

Hts insanely strong meta read
xix Horrible voting/not trying at all.
oats Meta + 4 page filter in a 230 page game? Like really dude?
templar Meta and all 4 of these guys are scummy if you dont even count meta

Like theres prop only 3-4 scum left so thats like a good case for a hf town. I still think hes mafia but were basically in lylo so ill let whosoever in the final 3 deal with that.

The chances are one of those four are town so we should spend tomorrow to figure out who. And vote out hts whos always mafia lol.
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 09:41 GMT
#4586
Like good find. I knew about that woulda went into it later. She town reads tube then helps push him when its convenient for her. Like shes the lynch theres nothing else to talk about that discussion is over. Who do we lynch next?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 20 2014 10:11 GMT
#4588
Mafia could also have the kp and if its 4 then the game is already actually over. It would explain why they made the mislynch wagon so blatantly obvious (templar,hts,xixav) At the very least they have a present they might consider opening now that you guys seem to believe me about them.

Like are all of oats,hf,gb town? Probably not so lets hope they dont have the kp. I gotta stop posting

Rstoulin yes you just lead the most obvious mafia wagon of all time. Like when you lead a wagon and 3 of the people following you are on everyones mafia. You just abandon ship...
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 10:33 GMT
#4589
I think ve gets mad points for not pushing an easy lynch on me day 1 I was horrible
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 10:35 GMT
#4590
^ wrong thread grrr my last two posts wasted
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 23:43 GMT
#4622
On December 20 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow, Vivax is town...

Took me too long to realise, sorry.

I'm with you, Vivax. I think your analysis is informative. HTS, Xat and Templar makes a lot of sense.
But oats is playing this game so indifferently that it makes me shiver.
Maybe he is a possible 4 mafia?


He just "sheeped" me on this but vivax is totally town anyway not sure how you didnt notice tbh?. And its just smart towns coming to the same obvious conclusions
sicklucker
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December 20 2014 23:56 GMT
#4632
The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them.

Also im probably the save

The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim.

The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#4641
On December 21 2014 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 08:48 rsoultin wrote:
I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess.

And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him.


Well, if I was protected/blocked by nigella it means mafia decided to shoot me and means they probably don't have a roleblocker.


And by saying this its down to 2 if my mafia list is right lol. I think the best strat for the medic is to not claim till the last second and save the other medic suspect. They have to kill you both in theory so if they dont rb you its a 25% chance save?
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 00:12 GMT
#4643
if the medic is one of xata,templar,hts,oats just come out now tho. You pretty much give us auto and your gonna die tonight anyway
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 02:30 GMT
#4670
No we lynch hts guys god. Xata is probably mafia too and ill shennanie onto him if it comes to it but im more sure of hts and I have/will explain why to everyone

##vote halfthesky
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 02:38 GMT
#4672
Like me, rsoultin, slam ,ls all should be pretty much assumed town for the rest of the game. Liam too to a lesser extent. One of us will prop out as a medic and one will be a save for the doubters.

Basically we just lynch from my list which vivax copied and got all the creditXD. The only unknowns in this are like gb/hf which we can figure out in the final 3 if mafia is not forced to nk one of them by then.

Hts
templar
xata
oats

If one of you are medic or carol singer just claim because we literally have auto.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 02:39 GMT
#4673
On December 21 2014 11:35 rsoultin wrote:
I don't follow. She hasn't been super active, but the other time I've played with her, she wasn't, either. You may have forgotten that she was in danger of being lynched for inactivity the last game we all played together, to.

When she does come in she seems to be genuinely trying to figure out the game.

Why HTS, SL?


Dude like you were in both games. If you dont notice the difference already im wasting posts.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 02:54 GMT
#4675
Well ive never made a meta case so its going to take awhile and im going to watch a movie. but I already made part one please filter dive and read it
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December 21 2014 02:56 GMT
#4676
On December 21 2014 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
##Vote The_Templar


Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second
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December 21 2014 02:59 GMT
#4677
On December 21 2014 08:20 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 21 2014 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK so I opened the present. It was the gun which I pointed at xatalos. Bullet's not refunded so there's no point keeping quiet about it now.


Possible scenarios:

1 You got roleblocked by scum RB since you announced the present, if scum have an RB.

2 You used KP against Xatalos. But obviously he's not dead. Nigella might have roleblocked him thinking he was scum, and saved whoever Xatalos was going to kill. As a result though Nigella also protects so that's another theory why the bullet didn't go through.

#2 is plausible given the number of people that scumread Xatalos. IMO makes him look really bad right now.


Its diffently #1 anyone following this game knows that hes trying to confuse us.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 03:04 GMT
#4680
Ill explain why its always the first scenario. Obis are veg he knows hes likely to die in the night I even ask medic to save him. So he knows. But he doesint shoot? He was 100% mafia rbed .He always shoots he never wastes his shot. It was not nugella because he died in the same night.
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December 21 2014 03:04 GMT
#4681
On December 21 2014 12:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On December 21 2014 11:59 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2014 08:20 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 21 2014 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK so I opened the present. It was the gun which I pointed at xatalos. Bullet's not refunded so there's no point keeping quiet about it now.


Possible scenarios:

1 You got roleblocked by scum RB since you announced the present, if scum have an RB.

2 You used KP against Xatalos. But obviously he's not dead. Nigella might have roleblocked him thinking he was scum, and saved whoever Xatalos was going to kill. As a result though Nigella also protects so that's another theory why the bullet didn't go through.

#2 is plausible given the number of people that scumread Xatalos. IMO makes him look really bad right now.


Its diffently #1 anyone following this game knows that hes trying to confuse us.

How am I trying to confuse anyone?


Its hts you drunk still?
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 03:07 GMT
#4683
FF's shot never goes through ever because we know they have a rb so number two can never happen. Hts is just posting fluff never any reads EVER
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 05:08 GMT
#4689
On December 21 2014 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 21 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2014 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
##Vote The_Templar


Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second


Okay, SL. I read some of your earlier stuff on HTS. You brought up her filter, saying it's shorter this game than it was in our other game.

Student Mafia, after 6 full days, she had 12 pages. Carolers, we're just starting the 5th day. She has 12. That is invalid.

You say she hasn't talked about Templar. She has. She's been scumreading him for days. She didn't talk about him today before she voted, but it is definitely not an unexplained change in her reads, and he was also on her 3-person lynch list that she stated today. That point is also invalid.

Do you have others?


Also...you keep assuming that people are going to automatically do what you tell them to. Just because you told Nigella to protect OWS, and she didn't, does not mean there is no Nigella. I don't understand how you fail to see this.


What about how she town read tube then voted for him out of nowhere?
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 05:10 GMT
#4690
Also you cant compair the filters from this to campus. This has had 10x more content so I expect her content to be 10x more. Also that game was auto and she or anyone else barely talked at the en so her 12 page filter was really from like 3 days.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 05:19 GMT
#4691
rsoultin why cant you just agree with me for once your always pushing your own agenda. You dont even have to vote her you just gotta say "ya ill vote her in the next 3 votes" and ill be happy. The order doesint really matter.

Your not seeing the obvious scum that followed your horrible lynch yesterday is what worry me. You said you would take a step back can you please follow up on that. Mafias taking you to final 3 at this point.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 14:18 GMT
#4703
Lets not lynch templar yet. Thats who a hf, hts, xata scum team would want us to lynch and thats a huge possibility to me.

Everyone list your kill order and lets find a compromise. You all should have no problem listing your top 3 kills because your town right? Mine in order

HTS
xata
oats
templar
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 14:22 GMT
#4704
Leave the medic alone rsoutin. And can the other god damn carol singer claim so we have another confirmed? Like there is literally no reason not to wth.
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December 21 2014 15:11 GMT
#4716
On December 21 2014 23:49 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 21 2014 23:18 sicklucker wrote:
Lets not lynch templar yet. Thats who a hf, hts, xata scum team would want us to lynch and thats a huge possibility to me.


I remember someone else criticising you in SMIV for this and I'll do it here again, regardless of who you think is scum in any game, look for scum individually please, based on what is known, and not in teams.


No when 3or 4 of my scum reads tell me to lynch the same person(the templar) I will bite scratch and claw to make sure it wont happen. Especially when I see more juicy targets
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 15:16 GMT
#4718
Its literally down to 2 potential people who can be JK so if he can confirm someone important he needs to claim before he dies. Im prop the medic save which is useless to come out with.

That being said if he saves the other likely jk candidate we have a likely medic save, so dont claim for awile. Im not asking for him to claim im asking for the carol singer .
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December 21 2014 15:18 GMT
#4720
On December 21 2014 23:26 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 21 2014 23:22 sicklucker wrote:
Leave the medic alone rsoutin. And can the other god damn carol singer claim so we have another confirmed? Like there is literally no reason not to wth.


You think Xatalos is the jailkeeper? Why?


wtf no hes mafia. If he was he would have claimed since were lynching him. lian is obv
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 15:37 GMT
#4735
On December 22 2014 00:30 GlowingBear wrote:
I think the night actions for today has so much possibilities that it will be too unreliable to go after. It's not like day1.

Anyway, the most weird thing was that Vivax wasn't protected and he was, I believe, the top town.


Meh me an him talked for like 3 hours last night and probably solved the game. Which is why I could be a save. The medic probably is not expecting him to go after confirmed vt's either. It just means were right so mafia gave up role hunting and came after us.

I wouldnt have saved vivax either last night I woulda went for my strongest towns with unconfimed roles like slam,lian,rust. Any of them could have been the save. Mafia has been role hunting every night so it makes sense to try to save them as well.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 15:40 GMT
#4737
On December 22 2014 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
There's also the consideration that if scum is roleblocking FF, assuming they have a roleblocker which we don't know for sure (thank you for bringing up the vet HTS), then since FF was being pretty much universally townread he'd be a good KS I would think. So the last "simple" scenario is nigella RBing/saving him...

But here he is pre-claiming a present again, and claiming the KS again, and scum already knows that no one will counterclaim the KS or they would have when ritoky first claimed. So it's really quite possible for FF to be scum here, and that's why I'm asking if anyone's townreading him for anything but trfel's statement right before he died.

@Xata...I'm not saying it's not possible that you can't both be town. I am saying that I favor simple explanations over complex ones. Regardless, I think it would be foolish not to look into FF at all.


Well for one he wasint one of five idiots who voted out an obvious town yesterday????. Like we dont worry about ff unless we think the last mafia is that specific role
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December 21 2014 15:51 GMT
#4743
Fair enough but hes always been like this. He also tried really hard to switch to hf after and thats who his vote ended on.
It was more like he jokingly did it and mafia saw an opening.

Regardless you dont kill him untill theres one mafia because he can be confirmed town if we kill the right mafia role.
sicklucker
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December 21 2014 15:54 GMT
#4745
Also ff was 100%green checked give that a rest I looked through trefels entire day 2 filter. He has no other town read and obviously no strong mafia read since he changed his mind at the last second.
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December 22 2014 04:12 GMT
#4814
On December 20 2014 18:31 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 16 2014 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 16 2014 04:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
I was never sold on tubesack being town but there was one post that made me wonder

On December 14 2014 07:24 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
heading to work really soon, any objections to me staying on HF?


I do. Me or Kel. Take your pick.


Who gives an ultimatum between himself and his scum buddy?


I believe that was around the time he told Rasputin he didn't deserve to live, or if he died it would give his case massive credence. I remember that and that sounded like he was misguided. I am pretty sure I can find the quote because I remember very well Rasputin telling him off for that.


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On December 19 2014 10:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, HF's case on Templar is checking out. I dove into it during dinner, and that combined with GB's comment on the Tubesock tunnel makes him look really bad. As it stands I have no issues changing votes.



Wut. Hts sees tube giving an ultimatum about kelsier and himself from the other day, sees the case on templar with awful push on tube and agrees with it. Votes tube...?

Not to mention scum read gb pushing scum read templar who is pushing scum read tube???

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On December 20 2014 06:01 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 20 2014 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
The kill HF cheering squad is not around. Makes me wonder why. Makes me uncomfortable lynching Templar. -shrugs- Call me paranoid if you wish. I am, lol.


Rasputin, the magic number is six. If I were queen of Liquidia, I'd get rid of both GB and Templar, but seriously can that wagon realistically get another five votes in the remaining two hours?


Wut.


Town reads tube. Then jumps and helps lead rasputins train of horror? Like guys your not reading shes mafia number uno.
Rast you know your town, you know Ls is town, templar had to vote tube to stay alive. That leaves HTS who should be under great scrutiny from you for helping you lead a lynch on her TOWN READ.
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December 22 2014 04:18 GMT
#4816
On December 22 2014 11:58 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 22 2014 11:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2014 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
hrum...I could lynch Templar, but I don't know that he's the best lynch right now, slam. Is that all you have? The lurking? Cause he wasn't really active early, either. Just a couple giant-ass posts.

Templar mainly posted fluff and hinted at ksc being scum earlier in one of his mini stories.


He basically summarized the thread...and the hinting at KSC being scum was just cause of the silly randomizer stuff -_- it looked like he was town-reading him the rest of the time. Not saying the behavior doesn't look scummy.

He's still just a policy lynch for me though.


Everything a policy lynch to you man rofl. Like you just defend everyone for no reason its so annoying just stop typing if your not scum hunting no one wants to hear your fluff. xata templar hts are all scum just lynch them all just in my order. None are defending themselves I figured one might be town but there literally laying over and dying .
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December 22 2014 04:19 GMT
#4817
On December 22 2014 13:17 rsoultin wrote:
Dude, calm down. I'm not interested in lynching HTS today, and I think it was my fault that any of that happened last day phase. Yes, probably at least one scum was involved...but I have someone else I want to lynch today. I really don't have the time to filter dive right now with the family coming in to stay with me in a couple days and work tomorrow.


NO ITS NOT JUST YOUR FAULT STOP DEFENDING MAFIA ROFLFLFLFL PLZ
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:21 GMT
#4818
rsoultin like me you have no "smart credit" in this game people respect peoples opinions more. Hts is obv mafia bur I cant get anyone to think that. So like when people blindly follow you to a bad lynch you should be really really suspicious. Like I would never follow you in a lynch ever for example
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:33 GMT
#4819
Like this game is 80% solved anyone with a brain can see that and all we really have to do is find are 4th lynch. Like I wanted it to be hf obviously but like rustin is just hard defending the other 3 we have to lynch. Like im just sick of giving him the auto dockey pass he might make an ok final 3 lynch if hes still around.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:36 GMT
#4821
Lian play the game man the order of lynches doesint matter theres 3 or 4 mafia left and we know who they all are give or take 1.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:37 GMT
#4822
Like I dont care if we lynch hts yet because I know who her mafia team mates are like I really dont care. My problem is your not seeing it because you dont want to believe mafia followed you because your an egomaniac
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:40 GMT
#4824
Like im cool with lynching templar first because it makes slam look good and I voted him. I dont think slam has full town cred which he deserves so I dot mind making templar lynch one.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:43 GMT
#4825
My problem rsoultin is that im going to die and your going to lead another mafia mislynch because your not willing to admit that its probably what happened. So when xata and hts follow you into another lynch your not going to care.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 04:54 GMT
#4827
So if im the medic save make sure you tell people at all costs before you die because that would prove me and vivax solved the game and mafia had no choice but to kill us both. This is super important because no one seems to want to blindly follow us right now when you should.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 09:36 GMT
#4830
Right dont forget hts tho. Im sure of it so of theres 4 that means one of oats and hf is town.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 09:39 GMT
#4831
And to be honest I dont see any world where theirs just 3 mafia left as people have played. I believe there is 4.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#4835
On December 22 2014 19:57 Half the Sky wrote:
GB, was asleep when you asked, but as you requested

Templar: Scum, my prior opinion on him hasn't changed, overall a lot of lurking. HF's case further validates my overall thoughts on him.

HF: I still read him as town. Most of his points/explanations seem reasonable to me when he's been active. Yes, his activity has fallen off D4/5, and that's something to watch, but we are 3 days from Christmas, so who knows. I don't think it's reasonable to scumread him on that alone.


Why did you save him yesterday and vote tube when you town read tube?
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December 22 2014 13:28 GMT
#4837
Lets see the first 3 people to vote templar that day were two confirmed towns and rast. Followed by you and xat who always vote together btw.
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December 22 2014 13:30 GMT
#4838
Like I think you and xata are mafia because you just sheep and never have your own ideas or put scum on anyone. Can you disprove me?
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December 22 2014 16:32 GMT
#4850
Well thats 5 hf votes. Hes one of my less stronger reads now. Im only like 80% rather then like 95% sure on some others. Oh well im mad lets kill him.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 20:10 GMT
#4858
We have a majority folks. No changarino
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 20:15 GMT
#4859
lol @ rstun saying he needed a scum read tho. Literally nothing has changed if anything hf looked better his last 10 posts. Im having second thoughts with oats trolling and hf being the only one to scumread hts (wtf?) but I want to be right all game because thats more fun. Stay the course!
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December 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#4881
Its gonna take me along time to read all that. But im like tempted to unvote him just for typing that 1000 word essay.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 21:39 GMT
#4888
Ya hf is likely town only read like 1/3 of his shit so far.

So if you guys didnt notice why I slowed my pushing hf its because I started looking at the rest of the game and I just saw 4 people that are super scummy and their cant be 5 mafia left.

Hf could totally still be mafia here but its not likely enough to vote him after he defends himself well. Its still suspect that the mafia pushed tube instead of just voting out hf to save templar. But thats the only reason I can think of to make him are 4th lynch . ARE 4TH LYNCH not are 1st second or third lynch. Because hts,templar,oats are so obvious at this point.

The 4th mafia can be any of hf,xata,rstun. But its so obvious who the other 3 mafia are so we never vote hf out sorry lian =[
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 21:41 GMT
#4892
##unvote ##vote the_templar
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 21:43 GMT
#4893
Wait ff voted hts and we dont know if he will be back in time to switch so lets vote hts Ls and others

##vote hts
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#4896
On December 23 2014 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 23 2014 06:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 19 2014 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
On December 19 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
this game feels so fucking peaceful when it's full of actual content and reads btw so i might just afk when sicklucker/lian turn up with their usual shit


QFT

I've wasted too much breath with ironclad logic and people aren't giving shit so I'd rather have fun with interactions instead of bringing newer and newer content.

If I'm not mafia, HF, who would you say it might be the remaining scums?


templar/oats/xata


Page 17 of your filter. If you thought Xata was town, if you gave the present to him, why are you listing him as one of your scumread here?


Because vivax wouldn't lynch templar with me unless i agreed to xata. Quite simple really. I even made a contract.


This is true the three of us basically came together and solved the game. We never decided if hf was the last mafia but we all agreed to vote out those 3. Then me and vivax were killed in the night....
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 21:51 GMT
#4900
On December 23 2014 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
It's no coincedence everyone wanted to lynch me, nobody really pushed anywhere else and the thread went super stagnant with votes on me.


Why do you think mafia made a third wagon on tube when you and templar were even in vote count tho? Like I might still make you are 4th lynch just because of this.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 22:02 GMT
#4915
Hts why dont you say who you saved last night? Like the fact you forgot to add that means im not buying it yet reading again
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 22:03 GMT
#4922
Yes give us everyone of your saves for everynight so we can figure out if your telling the true
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December 22 2014 22:08 GMT
#4928
Well I already believe it enough to not vote hts. In both worlds oats is scum lets vote him. Xata also works one of the Two. Even if your town hts templars probably still scum btw but I wont vote him out yet with only 50 minutes to talk about it.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 22:09 GMT
#4931
Hf
Oats
xata
templar

is the world I would bet on.
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 22:11 GMT
#4935
Can we just leave in hf to piss lian, hf etc off? Its also the safest play. ##vote oats
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December 22 2014 22:13 GMT
#4939
Its gg the scum team is

Hf
Oats
xata
templar if theres 4

Concede but if they dont vote out hf last make him suffer
sicklucker
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December 22 2014 22:15 GMT
#4943
Also theirs no counter claim. Like if hts was lying there would be a cc
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December 22 2014 22:20 GMT
#4951
On December 23 2014 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 23 2014 07:15 sicklucker wrote:
Also theirs no counter claim. Like if hts was lying there would be a cc


Not if there is no nigella role.

Anyway, HTS, answer me this again, more in depth:

What did you think of Tubesock?


Yes theres still possible mistakes thats why we dont vote out hf or hts we vote out oats who is on both teams.
EVERYONE VOTE OATS YOU DONKEYS
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December 22 2014 22:23 GMT
#4956
On December 23 2014 07:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Holyflare, you are the lynch for tonight. Xatalos will go for D6.


No push oats plz. Because theres still some doubt and we cant screw this up.
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December 22 2014 22:23 GMT
#4959
On December 23 2014 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 23 2014 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 23 2014 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
HTS who you protected last night?

xata, she actually posted all her save/blocks

Then Xata is confirmed town then?


Confirmed mafia acualy
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December 22 2014 22:27 GMT
#4973
On December 23 2014 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 23 2014 07:23 sicklucker wrote:
On December 23 2014 07:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Holyflare, you are the lynch for tonight. Xatalos will go for D6.


No push oats plz. Because theres still some doubt and we cant screw this up.


Lol SL
Lol

ROFL

You wanted to lynch HF. I've being scumreading him the entire game. We have a confirmed mafia. And suddenly you want to LYNCH OATS?

W
T
F


???? Its called playing it safe you moron. Hts says oats is mafia. Hf says oats is mafia. Problem?
I want hf to suffer dude. I want him to post 1000 word essays everyday untill hes voted out last and town wins the game
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December 22 2014 22:32 GMT
#4983
On December 23 2014 07:30 GlowingBear wrote:
MASON AND 3rd GHOST SHOULD CLAIM RIGHT NOW.


SHOULDA CLAIMED A WEEK AGO ROFL
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December 22 2014 22:37 GMT
#4992
Hts is saying she blocked xatalos from shooting if you havent figured that out yet
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December 22 2014 22:39 GMT
#4997
HTs why do you think templar is town again?
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December 22 2014 22:50 GMT
#5008
So I sapose were just killing hf? Oh well wanted to toy with him some. Its still kind of an unnecessary risk but hf feel apart here.
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December 22 2014 22:54 GMT
#5016
Well another wellplayed game hts I knew there was something off about you tho...
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December 22 2014 22:59 GMT
#5031
On December 23 2014 07:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Actually her claim could be fake, she was under pressure after all, but her story makes sense, so, LET'S DO DIS


How is she fake. Like the medic dies tonight and should be active right now preparing to tell us their save. The loss is on the real medic if shes fake
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December 22 2014 23:04 GMT
#5047
So Hf just threw templar under the bus lol and I tottaly believe him. Changes nothing kill xata oats first. I think mafias is just conceding because its like I said for the last week. Oats , xata ,templar ,hf. Just not hts because she was being scummy because shes a role
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December 22 2014 23:08 GMT
#5051
On December 23 2014 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
*breaks down into tears and runs to GB and Rasputin and gives them a hug*

OMFG we did it. We fucking did it! GET IN!!!!!!


??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Im mvp?
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December 22 2014 23:11 GMT
#5056
Like we know who the 3 scum are . xata oats temp of course there conceding their not bm
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December 22 2014 23:13 GMT
#5061
On December 23 2014 08:11 Xatalos wrote:
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On December 23 2014 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2014 08:09 Xatalos wrote:
It's over. Well played HTS, you hid your role well. As a sidenote, the reason why we didn't kill you earlier was because you didn't say that you were townreading Vivax D1/N1. So well done.

You conceding?


Yes, it'd be practically impossible to win anymore. Just waiting for confirmation from my remaining buddy.


aka oats mr.3 page filter
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#5064
How is gb mvp guys I saved him from getting lynched like 3 times and pushed hf harder.

It was hts then me n vivax TERRIBLE
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 22 2014 23:20 GMT
#5075
So I did kill dandred with that present. Brliantttt
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 22 2014 23:24 GMT
#5086
Its obviously oats whos not conceding. He didnt care enough about this game to check it ;p
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 22 2014 23:27 GMT
#5093
Man hf not being able to claim who he sent a present to was terrible. Thats when I was like ill quit this forum if im wrong.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 22 2014 23:31 GMT
#5098
Holy shit the ego. I literally hammered you from being mislynched man
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 00:42 GMT
#5118
I figure there was no third ghost. mason was probably lian
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 00:43 GMT
#5119
lian and rust are basically the only non claimed vt so...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:18 GMT
#5130
On December 23 2014 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker did you have me as a scum read at any point of the game?


No you were super obvious confirmed town when you claimed a ghost so early. I got alot of scum from people who didnt town read you tho. Like you were 100% confirmed and people kept semi scum reading you it was so annoying
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:20 GMT
#5131
On December 23 2014 09:49 rsoultin wrote:
Lol nah xata killed it for em even if someone does want to continue. im just not gonna potentially out someone else im pretty sure i figured out lol


Na it mighta been when hf blamed his team and called them out. Anyway me and vivax called out their scum team like 3 days ago. There only chance was hf
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 01:26 GMT
#5134
I even said we should lynch coag and especially kush because of the weird nk (palmar scum read him) then maybe even ls over you
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:26 GMT
#5135
there u go kush must have just conceded rofl the timing
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:27 GMT
#5136
oh i was posting in the wrong thread again og my god im bad
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:32 GMT
#5139
I totally disagree with you palmer. Lian did not help at all in finding hf's team mates and gave up on the game when people didnt vote with us but alas thats your bad opinion ;p
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 01:34 GMT
#5141
Holy shit the length of these qt's is bigger then the game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 01:35 GMT
#5144
I was completely agreeing with lian 90% of the game but he could have steped up more on pure reads sure he was the best. I agree it was frustrating getting people to vote with is
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 01:47 GMT
#5155
No one seemed to really believe his cop check tho ;p. But thats ff for ya
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 02:03 GMT
#5176
I wish I could lead towns that is a cool thing to have
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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December 23 2014 03:44 GMT
#5204
On December 23 2014 12:04 Damdred wrote:
1) Screw everyone who 100% said "DAMDRED DIED FROM A PRESENT". That was the most horrible thing to say and was quite insulting!

2) I really wish people would of looked at my filter more and caught on especially to the ritoky thing and Xata thing especially with his response on day two onward his play didn't change and he was so mafia.

3) HF shouldn't of lived past d3, that vote d2 just showed how horribly mafia he was haha

4) Town sure did turn that around it was a great job

5) Lian was the town MVP I think


It was not a shot at you. Like I just thought it was really strange that they would target a claimed vt in such a big game with so many roles on n1. I did change my mind on this pretty quick like usual.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 03:55 GMT
#5210
He also said I need coaching when I properly identified him as mafia~.~. Typical hf.
Honestly the second part of present gate proves without a doubt that hf was mafia. But the first half was so bad everyone ignored me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 16:57 GMT
#5257
On December 23 2014 16:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Well, interesting stuff in the QT. Scum QT....wow. Just impressed with content.
Obs QT....I was near or at the top of every scum list. Oh dear. That's not good.

If anyone has any tips on improvement or anything specific they saw, feel free to post/PM.
I know I struggled with some of the reads, not sure if that's common for new folks here and my part in the D4 Tube lynch was horrible. (Tube I am so sorry!)

Great work overall town. We had some ups and downs but we pulled through.

Trfel you were awesome, Rasputin and GB you were even more awesome.
Scum team gave us a run. ggwp

Thank you Marv and Palmar again for everything. See you all in the next game!


I thought you were trying to be scummy so you dont get killed and that totally worked? But ya your "town game" totally feel off from your first one
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#5258
On December 23 2014 19:50 liancourt wrote:
After rereading i dont think town would have won without hts.

I sure as hell wasnt going to convince town hf was scum when it was obvious.

kudos to hts


We woulda killed oats, xata, templar in some order. Woulda been hf in final 3 he could totally win but probably not I think? Would be like gb rust hf. Up to rust basically who was scumming hf. So I dont think they win
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 23 2014 17:09 GMT
#5260
On December 19 2014 19:25 sicklucker wrote:
Im not too interested in wasting my posts battling you im saving them to convince others close to vote. Ya templars probably scum. But yes you would bus him, this templar thing didnt start until it was very clear you were getting out voted over gb. Then you started this train.

You are claiming a vt who decided not to open a present and help town win.

Theres no wifmo in my case

1. Any vt ever would open this present. Your not a power role theres no reason for you not to take the 1/3 risk to become one its literally the only correct play. You also claim your on vacation and you shouldnt be playing mafia. Another reason you would totally take this risk for town. Your lieing

2. Ritoky claims kp present. He would only ever do this if hes sure he cant be counter claimed. This means mafia has the two remaining presents because we all know I sent one to dandred and he died because of it or with it. This again means your lieing because

3. Ritoky and ksc could kill you over ksc. They choose not to.

4. Bats, obiwan, tref, froggy All thought you were mafia. They are dead

5. We ask you who we sent the present too before ff. You ignore and then refuse to tell us. The reason for this is simple its in mafias hands. If you name a town they will deny it and you will be confirmed mafia. If you ask a mafia to help you out they will be guilty by association therefor it is your only play as mafia.

Like theres more thats just off the top of my head. I would quit this forum if im wrong here. Im that sure.
Vote hf not who he wants you to vote


I thought this post shoulda got hf lynched gave up after it was ignored and pushed his scum mates
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