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I really dislike christmas so please do not make me a town power role ;_;
TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells
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I'm gonna regret this I really dislike christmas so please do not make me a town power role ;_; | ||
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On December 05 2014 04:09 liancourt wrote: /in Dammit  | ||
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Clearly I am mafia | ||
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On December 05 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: We need FF to join to have a full lurker game, including the host Do I count as a lurker? | ||
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On December 05 2014 13:21 Damdred wrote: Confirmed hf hits the restriction 3 hours after game start My first 20-30 posts will all be worthless | ||
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On December 06 2014 01:15 Palmar wrote: I'm thinking of starting this Monday evening. I'm gone all of Tuesday  | ||
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On December 06 2014 10:44 Damdred wrote: I'm going to post Christmas pics every day ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/The_Grinch_(That_Stole_Christmas).jpg) no | ||
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On December 07 2014 02:42 Damdred wrote: I think there was a game (twiter) that there was a much harder cap it sounds fun in practice but looked kinda painful 140 characters, like 10 posts per day/night cycle or something ridiculous. And my only mafia partner pretty much forfeited day 1 Not my favorite game | ||
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On December 07 2014 07:12 Half the Sky wrote: Mafia using Twitter to begin with sounds painful in of itself, must be brutal if you have to defend against a wagon. Yikes. It wasn't actually on twitter. It was a game on TL where your posts had to be 140 characters or fewer, and you only got a few posts per day/night. | ||
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On December 07 2014 13:14 LightningStrike wrote: I hope we don't lynch a power role Day 1 like my last two games :O I'm going to get Santa, freak out, and get lynched. | ||
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On December 07 2014 15:50 Tubesock wrote: /obs Yesterday I discovered the glory that is Mafia. Binge read the Student Mafia IV thread and then 3 of the advice threads. Seems like a wildly fun game. I figure I should probably wade in via /obs instead of diving in and ruining everyone's life with my noobness. Don't pay attention to anything I do, if you want to learn anything | ||
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On December 07 2014 17:07 Tubesock wrote: Why do I think a lot of people will say this? I am bad and Alakaslam is a good crazy | ||
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On December 08 2014 06:27 Alakaslam wrote: You see not with the eyes of chupazi his words must all be original Khazad-Summachin qua tua sikh Malahanarizanichuu pi onb jiaan chaldiss phor. Phait janfini po zu tre qua minina zoot! much more difficult All of them must be original? Well, Jolaqua yahja ov aquoqin. | ||
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On December 08 2014 06:50 Damdred wrote: Xata how are you going to be town this game with so short a filter He'll have 10 pages before the games start obviously | ||
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I will do the RNG for you don't worry | ||
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On December 08 2014 06:56 Damdred wrote: Templars luck...rng lands on himself Heh. If it does, I will be honest about it. Of course, if I am mafia, I'll manage to rig it so that it doesn't land on me, so it landing on me would confirm me as town...  | ||
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On December 08 2014 06:59 GlowingBear wrote: I find this very WIFOM material. 10/10 would WIFOM a lot. You have no idea how WIFOM I could be. Since I've been town in normal games, me using WIFOM would be mafia-like. Or would it? I could argue that since using WIFOM means I'm mafia, I would never use it as mafia, so I must be town. | ||
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On December 08 2014 07:03 GlowingBear wrote: And you would do that as mafia But I may be biased because you always look like mafia when you're town, so I would townread you But you could be trying to make me think you look like mafia and that's why you're town he wuss you're mafia, then I would read you as mafia. Then I would simply say "lynch lurkers" Well, I've looked like the opposite alignment at the start of every game so far, so if I look mafia in this game, I must be mafia | ||
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On December 08 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote: This game will serve greatly to put templars into the christmas spirit ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MYawfbv.jpg) | ||
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The_Templar long posts? Nailed it. | ||
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On December 09 2014 03:54 Tubesock wrote: Would you like it better if I had a number in it, like "Tubes4ck"? Needs to have alternating caps as well as symbols. So you would be tUb3_S[0]Ck or something like that. | ||
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k0_shi O1NEhALF_sKy O4TS|\m4sta KiTaMaN27 |DaMDrEd| rS0u1tin FRoGNod kushm4sta S1CKLuCk3R SLaMhijole ViVaX Ob|w4nS|hiN[o]bi [Not]SanTa X4t4105 LIGHTNINGstr1ke liancourtyboy [BaT]SnaC1cs r1T0kY feCaL4_20FeaST hO|yF|aRe [GlOw]InG_&E@R 4LONEMeOw TRfEl tUb3_S[0]Ck K3151545C | ||
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On December 09 2014 04:38 Xatalos wrote: The investigation already started before the game started Xatalos's pre-game here is similar to Guilty Mini Mafia where he was a blue. Clearly he is town. | ||
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On December 09 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote: Really templar? What do you think of kush? teehee The less I altered someone's name, the more likely it is they are mafia :D | ||
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On December 09 2014 05:02 sicklucker wrote: The_Templar already 3 page filter mod kill plz 2 pages you mafia | ||
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On December 09 2014 05:25 liancourt wrote: The game started before it even began? What is this quatum mafia? How do you think Santa goes to every kid's house on the same night? | ||
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Are we allowed to know roughly how many Disgruntled Retail Workers there are? | ||
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On December 08 2014 06:54 The_Templar wrote: I will do the RNG for you don't worry There are 26 players. Therefore, I will take the post ID of this post and divide by 26, taking the remainder and finding that position on the player list (this would have worked really well because dividing by 25 is easy peasy, but then ninja bunnies somehow managed to add one to the number). We will RNG lynch that person unless they come up with a suitable defense. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: ##vote: The_Templar The whole point of RNG is that once it's decided, it's decided. That's silly. On December 09 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote: While not being a devout follower of religion, I am a member of the church of RNG. There are 26 players. Therefore, I will take the post ID of this post and divide by 26, taking the remainder and finding that position on the player list (this would have worked really well because dividing by 25 is easy peasy, but then ninja bunnies somehow managed to add one to the number). We will RNG lynch that person unless they come up with a suitable defense. This post ID is 23413441. When divided by 26, I get a remainder of 25. That would be K3151545C. ##Vote: KelsierSC | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: Ok make it christmassy Santa prepared to ride his sleigh around the world, delivering his christmas gifts to all the joyful children as well as their parents and grandparents. However, Santa knew that there was a fault with his Naughty/Nice list. Someone who was listed as nice was hiding in the shadows, and he could not deliver presents to that person. But who could it be? It was a light snowfall at the North Pole, where Santa pondered this mystery. He went down the list of suspects. "The_Templar can not be it... he is exempt from Christmas entirely. He is neither naughty nor nice. How unfortunate for him. Could it be kushm4sta? He has lurked in the shadows a lot, and has made it difficult for me to determine whether he is naughty or nice. Perhaps Vivax? I was all wrong about him last year. He should get extra presents this year if he really belongs on the nice list." Santa did not know. However, not all hope was lost. Santa pinned the list of suspects, 26 in total, to the wall with a partly eaten candy cane. He then walked outside where his reindeer were waiting, gathered a snowball, placed a small rock inside the snowball, and walked back inside. Santa then closed his eyes and threw the snowball at the list. Upon opening his eyes, he saw that he had actually missed entirely. One of the reindeer giggled upon looking through the window. However, not all was lost. Santa's snowball had hit the wall above his list, and somehow, snow had splattered all over the wall, covering one of the names entirely. Santa wiped the snow off the list. "So, Kelsier's name was hidden from the list...? Perhaps he is the one." Santa went to investigate further into Kelsier's recent Naughty/Nice related doings with newfound suspicion of him. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote: Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it. Get rekt mafia This is a useless post. On December 09 2014 08:17 Damdred wrote: ##Vote Templar Admitted before the game that he would fix the rng! We must not follow this That's WIFOM. On December 09 2014 08:11 Alakaslam wrote: Hey so IMMA gonna meta the patronising prick In fact Christmas is not even about the nativity. It is about the visit of the magi; they gave good gifts for the time period in winter, hence holiday is appropos Or if you are not of that denomination nothing actually happened and some rabbi was a good moral teacher Or if you are of a different denomination it is PAGAN HOLIDAY OF THE SOLSTICE AND THEREFORE WIKKID CURSES ON YE, WHO CELEBRATE but basically people who insist on nativity during Christmas should have a two year old messing about and no sheep, in an actual house. So lol @ patronising pricks Also BORRACHO I WILL FIND YOU I SEE YOU I HEAR YOU I KNOW YOUR WAYS YES Bolded: So you are OK with people not believing in the true spirit of christmas? Why does that sound like a corporate figure talking? | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:17 Damdred wrote: ##Vote Templar Admitted before the game that he would fix the rng! We must not follow this Santa sighed to himself as he loaded up his sleigh. Was it really suitable to use a snowball with a small stone in it to determine who was naughty? After all, he had piles of information from the NSA and similar organizations all around the world. Kelsier had done many things this year. Although he had to play the role of a Naughty person many times, he had succeeded at his role until he was hit by a bike. He was friendly to everyone he met, whenever possible, but was professional enough to see past one's surface. Going back, Kelsier had led a noble-looking life for some time. As a devout Starcraft fan, he had followed many tournaments in 2013, even helping cover them through live reports. Santa knew many children that were overjoyed by that, as Kelsier had lifted immense pressure off of a few of them. Even recently, he still watched and waxed eloquent about the game, and could be considered passionate by many peoples' standards. What had Kelsier really done wrong? ##Unvote Santa stopped loading up the sleigh and walked back into his home. Information was always entering this building, but he noted a great deal more was flowing at the moment. He looked closer. People were arguing, yes, arguing, about which of them deserved to be on the naughty or nice list more. Pre-christmas preparation was not done yet. The Naughty and Nice lists must be altered due to this. With increasing shock, he noted that The_Templar had defended Santa's honor and tried his best to bring the spirit of Christmas back into people's hearts, despite never wanting to be involved in the holiday. Santa added The_Templar onto the Nice list. On December 09 2014 08:20 kitaman27 wrote: Hi everybody! A new bit of information. The spirit of Christmas was normally patient and kind, but on the month of December, there was no time to stall. Kitaman, as he was known by many, was sitting there, allowing other people to be added to Santa's naughty list. But what had Kitaman done all year? Santa checked his list twice. In fact, there was almost no information on him at all except for a picture of Santa shouting and holding a very menacing icicle. Santa made a mental note to check the extensive records on him. One of the reindeer made an impatient noise, but Santa was not finished. On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote: Gogogo. RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking. On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options. He rubbed his eyes, upon examining this new piece of evidence on FrogNod. The post referred to the undesirability of people only focusing on whether those who remained silent should be considered Naughty; however, the printed text showed no evidence of him doing anything except talking about these people. Santa knew at once that FrogNod was being a hypocrite, but could not yet determine whether this indicated Naughty behavior. The printer next to Santa's computer continued to flood the corner of the room with sheets of paper. Santa grabbed one from the middle of the pile, but it was talking about women's attire. This wouldn't be helpful at all until after Christmas. Santa tried one closer to the top, but this too was about women's slippers. Who was this Ninjabunnies, and why was she complaining about clothing in the heat of an argument? There was only so much one could say before they overloaded one of the NSA's servers, leading to an inability for Santa to know more about this person. Was it spam that he was receiving? Santa once more checked his list twice. No, Ninjabunnies was a part of this argument. A new piece of paper came in. Santa looked over it nervously while munching on a candy cane. A Yoda meme? Ninjabunnies was clearly using as much space as she possibly could with her retorts. Already, she had done nothing with 12 of her allotted 80 posts. Santa said aloud, "Ninjabunnies can not be overlooked. Exactly what will she be doing on her date? I must make sure she does not spend too much time being naughty." Santa walked outside and explained to the reindeer the situation. "I can not deliver the presents until I figure out the state of people being Nice or Naughty. We are going to deliver the presents to the joyful children that I have figured to be Nice beyond doubt early, and we are going to investigate Ninjabunnies further." One of the reindeer made an exasperated sound, but Santa was determined to quell the argument of those suspects. Before long, he was en route towards the United States. ##Vote: Ninjabunnies | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:55 KelsierSC wrote: Ah ignore my scrooge comment i misread one of the roles Additionally, Santa noted that one of the suspects, KelsierSC, was trying to discover the location of the sought-after Scrooge, but would not say why. Why was this? Scrooge could be the key to making Christmas the best for everyone, and was on Santa's Nice list already. Yet, Kelsier withdrew as soon as his search was revealed, for reasons that Santa could not discern. Indeed, Kelsier was acting differently than his jolly past had suggested. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote: Calvin, Calvin, calvin. Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer John Calvin? How have you been reborn in this day and age? | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote: Let it be known that Jacob Marley gets the first action if multiple parties visit Scrooge. I said this earlier but in the way of chupazi. So indeed Calvin made live snow goons Yes, but who made the snowmen in this game? | ||
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Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument! Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered? On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read. As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;) He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this: Templar Town Damdred Town Slam semitownie Those I need to look more at: HF Vivax Kelsier Iffy: Froggy Kita (I expected more than just hey) Fecal I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense. HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post. tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later. Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow! On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason? Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps? Santa also updated his list on the way to America. Nice: Koshi Half the Sky Oatsmaster kitaman27 Damdred rsoultin froggynoddy kushm4sta sicklucker Alakaslam Vivax ObiWanShinobi The_Templar Xatalos LightningStrike liancourt batsnacks ritoky Fecalfeast Holyflare GlowingBear LoneMeow Trfel Tubesock KelsierSC Naughty: 27ninjabunnies Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started Underlined: Santa/[Not]SanTa must investigate further Bold: Remains on the list for some time. Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list None: New on the list However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study. | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote: A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread. Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful. Second scum was found. Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully. | ||
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Santa realized that GlowingBear had colored himself a color that was not in the spirit of christmas. Did this indicate naughty behavior, or was he simply misguided or colorblind? | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:44 Holyflare wrote: You actually just keep saying what im saying templar but then dont really comment on me being anywhere on your list, why is that? I haven't read your posts currently. You are right in that I probably should do so, but already there are too many people in this thread. This is the first game I have played that is not a mini. Will be studying for finals taking place early tomorrow morning for some time. I will revisit this thread quickly and update you on the thoughts of Santa and [Not]SanTa later. By the way, I wonder why people were so quick to confirm me as 100% town based on those posts I made. Here and here specifically. My posts were not remarkably townie. | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote: plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads. this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you Why is the fact that GlowingBear is criticizing me important? Why do I seem too defensive? My second post (the longest one) in the Santa vein has several people that looked peculiar (kita, frog, ninjabunnies). I generally do not have a lot of reads. | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote: I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum The also town thing was already discussed. Which points does she make similarly to NB? | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:56 ritoky wrote: 1) context is everything, guy says "i haven't read the thread" and then criticizes you for posting fluff, is that really coming from a credible perspective worth giving large consideration to? 2) because the guy didn't read the thread then you posted this snark bark: "Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person. There is plenty of information in that fluff. Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully." That's defensive as all hell. 3) If you don't have a lot of reads then why post a gigantic list on everyone in the game? Why not just post the 4 or 5 actual reads you have? seems like excessive clogging for no real reason. 1. He is important to me because he is calling me scum for fluff at the beginning of the game. This is the opposite of his normal "lynch lurkers" policy. 2. Admittedly, that is defensive. 3. That list is going to be updated. | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote: Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope? I believe it's because he tried to point out important inconsistencies/double standards in the post of HtS. This is my last post before studying. | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:23 rsoultin wrote: Nope, not at all. Just ask stupid questions. Better than stupid answers. Scum one game, and a game he pulled out of. Tsk tsk. For shame. Templar, where is that list? You mean that one I already posted? A few pages before RNG into vote that I explained. Only included Kelsier because I had, in fact, voted him. Please try harder to bait further over-reaction. Agreed that SL is a lot more mellow than he usually is as town. I do not know if this is a one-night thing or not. On December 09 2014 11:39 GlowingBear wrote: You tell me, bby. I feel you don't like me, slam. Personally. Maybe he's mad that you said it's impossible to read him now before reading him. Just a thought though. | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote: Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present. Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town. Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in. I am 98% sure that any role can get presents, as far as we know. | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:48 GlowingBear wrote: Wow you're looking so mad. Are you okay? Thanks for being concerned. I am stressed out right now because this game started at a terrible time and I'm already investing more time than I have into it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 20:42 Xatalos wrote: First things first, this really disturbed me: Something like this is really dangerous to say because it might actually out the blue role in the worst case. And the fast backtrack indicates that there wasn't any real thought behind this "plan". However, it appears that it was just a reaction test: It actually seems like KSC could believe what he's saying here. The way he goes after Fecalfeast after executing his "master plan" feels genuine enough. So I'd tentatively put KSC in the town camp. I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though. Moving on to more pressing issues, there's Half the Sky. Her posting has been somewhat suspicious from the very first post: It's almost a template Mafia first post. The first paragraph is purely focused on making friends and blending in ("you're town, I'm town, let's not lynch each other!"). As a minor point it's somewhat suspicious that she's immediately referring to another player as town. That would only truly make sense if Half the Sky is Mafia and 27ninjabunnies is town. The second paragraph is just fluff. The third paragraph merely asks some meekly toned questions without much apparent thought behind them (there's even another buddying attempt towards HF included). What's worse, I can't find anything related to these questions from her after her first post. Even though she responded to posts from KSC soon after. All in all: a completely useless post that appears somewhat useful, but in fact only furthers Mafia agenda (blending in, survival, gaining influence). Her following posts are mostly fluff (bad in itself when there's a post limit) or reactive answers to pressure. As she got some slight pressure on herself, she soon sheeped onto 27ninjabunnies (the easiest target) as her target: Then a very non-committal suspicion on Damdred: That's basically the extent of her contributions. I'd say that her posts so far have been mostly wasted fluff posts and some of them are actually pushing Mafia agenda (blending in, trying to appear useful without actually doing anything, and lastly spreading some very weak suspicion onto Damdred). So I think Half the Sky is quite likely Mafia here and seems like our best D1 lynch. ##Vote Half the Sky Regarding 27ninjabunnies, there are two reasons that make me think she might be town: 1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. 2) If Half the Sky is Mafia, I feel it's quite unlikely that 27ninjabunnies is Mafia as well. Pre-flip association, I know, but I don't think scum Half the Sky would easily pile on a scum 27ninjabunnies wagon or that she would first start casually discussing with 27ninjabunnies and refer to her as town. So I don't really think 27ninjabunnies is a good lynch for these reasons. Another Mafia candidate I feel would be LightningStrike. This is basically her whole contribution so far and it's a pretty useless listpost: sicklucker is the main scumread and the reasoning for that is very, very weak. Not to mention there are many townreads without any reasoning whatsoever. About this #PresentGate... sicklucker seems very town from his confused claim. I don't think I've ever seen Mafia claim their role early on D1, especially in such a badly executed manner. While the underlined portions show some lack of reading the entire thread, I mostly agree with this post. I don't think there were enough votes on NB to make it likely she was town (barely half the town was voting her). I think Half the Sky, if mafia, would be trying to make herself look good through someone else whether or not this other person was mafia, so I don't think that's a very great tell. Your mafia reads seem reasonable to me. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 20:57 Koshi wrote: Here are some things I noticed, and now explain using as little words as possible. Getting noticed by me is pretty good. It means you are doing stuff and can call yourself a participant of this game. If you are not in my list and thought you were doing things you didn't do your things correctly. Sadly I lost most of my interest after the IRL events of the last 24 hours. I will try to keep playing though. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote: The problem I have with 27ninjabunnies lynch right now is that some of the people on the wagon seem pretty shaky themselves. The_Templar I find it hard to understand the exact reasoning why he thinks 27ninjabunnies is scum from the roleplay posts. Can I get an "ELI5" version please? No verdict yet. I was one (of the first) of the voters for NB because I felt that she was trying to look more involved in the game than she was with her fluffy, contentless posts. However, I am still reading through the thread and I see that she has made a few recent posts, so I may change my mind. As for sicklucker, I have a hard time believing that, as mafia, he could be bold enough to do the weird joyful child + presents thing. I haven't read him yet, though. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote: KOSHI!! "Templar is paying attention" is an awful way to say someone should be in your list. Those aren't town reads. If you had read the rest of the post, then you would probably realize that. This is pretty obviously tunneling me at this point. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 21:48 LoneMeow wrote: Right, the claims. Not sure what to make of that, sicklucker's is probably the easier to believe claim due to the confused way it happened and timing. I don't quite see why The_Templar claimed when he did but the breadcrumbs do make it at least somewhat believeable. Not lynch targets for D1 anyway I suppose. I claimed because I was being dumb and, after including too much fluff in my original posts, I wanted to be noticed. I hadn't seen the post that said "don't claim" until after I posted. However, anyone can claim joyful child, as it literally makes no impact on how they are viewed, role-wise. I could be a mafia pretending to be a joyful child just as easily as a joyful child. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote: Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim. By claiming joyful Templar verified this: So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded. 3 confirmed town is ezpz. I am pretty sure there aren't exactly three joyful children confirmed by the host through presents. That would be silly. + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote: Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me. Why does my ability to tell a few paragraphs of a story lead you to believe that I am town? Unless there is information within those posts, they are useless, and you should be on the lookout when people make posts like that. Saying "wow, The_Templar is clearly towny today, great story pls more" is not a good read and I believe at least two people did this. Your other reasonings are not particularly great. 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On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote: + Show Spoiler + i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions. The amount of people sadly counterbalances this. ;; On December 09 2014 22:54 LoneMeow wrote: Honestly if I see one more post from LightningStrike with the word "meta" in it my brain is going to explode. I fear the same will happen to me. On December 09 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote: Everybody is allowed and even adviced to completely ignore Kush. There is no use talking to him. We will have to deal with him D2 or D3. This is a dangerous thing to assume. If he actually is scrooge then he probably dies night one. I'm actually really annoyed. As I said earlier, I believe that Scrooge is vital to this game, as he is the primary target of four different roles. He is almost certainly in this game, even if it's not kush. Unfortunately, if Marley is in this game we are probably sunk if Kush is, in fact, Scrooge. At the same time, if Scrooge dies, we have three useless town roles that could claim. On December 09 2014 23:29 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, why Templar "paying attention" is something so relevant to you? Why is this so important to you? On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote: Holy Moses. I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata. Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's? Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP: It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0. Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim? There will almost certainly not be 6 mass murderers. MM is a mafia role, and there can only be as many MMs as mafia. Plus, the game is presumably balanced, so if there are 6 MMs, there is enough town power to compensate. There was a scrooge claim because someone said there should be a scrooge claim. On December 10 2014 00:21 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT. Bye. So, you're claiming a role. Great. Why? *yawn, yawn, skip through a bunch of useless posts around page 43* On December 10 2014 02:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm laughing so hard right now. Like so hard. I love the votes on me, I really do. Im doing a bit of rereading, but I won't br able to make a huge post until after my final today. That being said, I noticed some things after I left for my date (which went amazing btw. I got serenaded. So fucking hot) So people were curious as to why I put 2/3 town who were jumping on the froggy scum thing. That's because I was reading then town for posts they said that werent in regards to froggy at all. The reason I put froggy as iffy was because, 1. I said his post wasnt alignment indicative, but that doesnt mean I have a read on him. He hadnt said anything else up to the point I posted my reads, so I put him as iffy for not having a read. Im only up to page 21, so I have a long way to go, but Ill try and read through quick and posts thoughts along the way. If you have questions for me Ill be more than happy to answer. Keep in mind you are lynching a town here. Im hoping to be able to redeem myself. To victory boys and girls! looks like a mafia post, although this may be my intentionally-not-christmas-color tinted glasses. I don't think so. It has the same tone as the post you made before there were 9 votes on you. On December 10 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: I don't think he ever made a Santa claim at all... He did make a joy claim though I put myself into the role of Santa before realizing that I was probably claiming for doing so. I may or may not be Santa. On December 10 2014 02:26 Damdred wrote: Meh we asked template for a story he delivered I wouldn't lynch a claimed named vt today I believe. kush did this stunt in the anime mafia game as town as well....so there's that Joyful child isn't a named VT as far as we know. Elf could just as easily be the named VT. On December 10 2014 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote: 300posts to read after sleeping. Can someone give me the death present please? Give it to me pls ;; On December 10 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote: .....Becasue it is double speak. Don't policy lynch, lynching lurkers is a form of policy lynching, in a big game a good scum strategy is to lurk and they are a ok lynch? Reading up on the Froggy posts. On December 10 2014 04:10 froggynoddy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote: Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town Froggynoddy is in scum pile Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? On December 09 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote: So what you're saying is policy lynches are terrible but if it all goes sour you want to policy lynch?? On December 09 2014 08:22 Damdred wrote: -5 town points for this post, going into the bad boy category tonight ##Unvote Templar Story shows awesomeness On December 09 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote: Cause i'm comfortable puttinng hf rit and templar into a pile, slam is slam so i'm not comfortable putting him with my other new town toys yet. Cause he made a pretty bad post that boiled down to, lets agree lynching lurkers is a bad thing but i'd be ok with lynching lurkers. Ok, perhaps I should explain things a little more simply. My statement can be broken down as follows 1. ANY policy (including lurker lynching) is bad because it stops people from scumhunting; 2. Lurking is still a valid criteria to lynch on, however it is just one of many criteria and should be given its appropriate weight; 3. It's DAY1, therefore we are not going to have much evidence/criteria to go on. Furthermore, this is a relatively large game. As such its an easy scum tactic to lurk whilst town lynches someone who is involved in the thread on very poor evidence (again because this is the nature of day 1 lynches), therefore lurking is a decent criteria to justify a lynch at this stage, just not one that warrants a policy. I shall read rest of the thread now... So, I got from this that scum hunting is important, but that day 1 lynches are based on poor evidence and therefore shouldn't be done because scum will be lurking, HOWEVER lynching possible lurking scum completely prevents scum hunting. Wahaaaaaat? However, I am OK with his read on me, despite it being one of the most negative ones in the thread. This is, of course, the only reasonable thing I have seen. It has, so far, taken him 6 hours to not come up with a read. He said he was reading through the thread and didn't really give any evidence of this. Adding to naughty list for now. On December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote: + Show Spoiler + low content game they said how wrong they were 3~4 filter max they said already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1 total ragnorak they said do u want to build a snowman? I'm disappointed by how much everyone is spamming too. It's like me on other areas of this site. My mother is leaning over my shoulder and asking why I'm spending so much time on one post. Speeding through thread... On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote: So i need to sleep and conserve posts. I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left. I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though. its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags. I must have missed it, who said your posts were fluffy? I think they are pretty short but on-topic. You really need to slow down your posting though, you're going to reach the limit soon. And yes, a lot of your posts are one-liners. Some are two lines. On December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, how jerky is this? I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me. What is this shit? Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you. ? I do this too. Just because you say he's town doesn't mean he has to recuperate. Stop expecting gifts from people. More coal in your stocking. On December 10 2014 10:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay Templar I forgot to answer your questions and I will answer now Within those stories there were reads, also possible questions for other players. Also you had some good questions trying to lead a discussion in this game for a bit so that why I town read you. Damdred is more of a meta reason why I think he is town because his posting is pretty similar how was in Student Mafia which I played with him. OWS again meta reasons that I think he town since his play seemed to mimic his town play on Russia Today game for his Day 1 stuff. I also changed my views on sicklucker after learning his shenanigans was the present claim I concluded that he is in fact his normal self for town which have mix of wacky shenanigans to force early town reads and some non sense it just how he is. Your answer on why you considered my posts towny. Other people seem to think I was restating a lot in the thread and didn't have original content. What parts of my posts do you think were thought-provoking? Damdred/OWS: I know you seem to like to compare people to how they were in a recent game you played, but I don't consider this sufficient evidence. One game, unless it is the entirety of one's play or it's very distinctive (see S1CKLuCk3R), could, from my experience, be outdated evidence or an outlier unless it is in line with other games. On December 10 2014 10:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: The sarcasm is real in this one  Lol, 2000 plus posts. Yeah not new. Okay... So yeah, kita... GG Where is the relevance in the LS read ? Or where you said that why isn't FF reading Tube and LS the same, when they aren't both new? I have 34,000 posts. Would you like to guess how many games of mafia I've played on TL? On December 10 2014 10:53 GlowingBear wrote: Cool, townslam. I think this game is going to be easy. How has his play differed from when you read him scum? | ||
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On December 10 2014 11:34 LightningStrike wrote: @Templar mainly your reads on KSC because I would of policy lynch him for the shit he pulled in the Campus Mafia game when he counter claimed me on Cop and turns out he/OWs who replaced him after Day 2 or 3 was Town but now that he seems lurkier than his town game I played with him on Campus Mafia I do have a concern he possibly could be scum but I don't have enough evidence to confirm if he's scum or not. My stuff on sicklucker was from recent games no worries on that part of him Templar. Damdred was trying to get a Discussion going along with HF and I see that as towny because scum normally don't try to get a Discussion going and he led it towards town side, OWS case was similar to his Russia Today game which was only ended a week ago I think but it recent enough to not raise my alarm just yet unless there is something. The reason I didn't pull the trigger on KSC because I had little reads on him until your post about him in one of your many stories. I only referred to him initially by saying he wasn't a bad person and that I had no actual evidence besides the great Gods of RNG. Unless I'm reading this run-on wall of a post incorrectly, I do not think you can really gather enough evidence from my early-game posts to make a conclusion like that. On December 10 2014 11:35 LightningStrike wrote: Also @Templar I guessing you played like 100 TL Mafia games knowing you from ABL and you guys there talking about TL Mafia there in the past. This is my 5th game. I'm going to bed soon. I will be back probably at 6 or so hours before deadline, and I will be there for about half of that. | ||
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Short opinion of liancourt's filter: extremely annoying to read. Lots of fluff. I like his more "serious" posts though and his reads seem fine too. Why is he so scummy? This is pretty much his only useful post that I can see.... On December 10 2014 08:50 liancourt wrote: i wouldnt say they are fluff, they were good bait for ppl like LS and HTS who thought i was scummy for it. Calling my spoiler posts annoying/odd doesn't mean they're scummy, but they took it that way then back tracked when i called them out about it. i'm surprised you even thoought it was scummy knowing the fact that I play like this early in the game. This isn't even a particular meta. It's just me fooling around the first 24 hrs of day 1 trolling ppl. And by observation only the new ppl fell for it while others just ignored it. Howeverm you are not new. You've played with me before and you shouldn't think this as scummy play and yet you say you did think it was scummy until I pointed it out it was all troll/joke. I think it was pretty obvious all the spoiler posts were joke posts and yet you stumble upon it and think it was scummy. Did I find another scum ...and 90% of it is a defensive post. In fact, the only part of his post that isn't defensive is accusing FF of being mafia because of how he interacts with him. There's something else interesting about liancourtyboy that I want to look at, but I have to leave again. | ||
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On December 11 2014 02:26 Xatalos wrote: Short comment on phone. Vivax, where did I townread bunnies? Where? I only thought that she *might* be a bad lynch when there was no resistance and HTS looked worse. Then HTS looked better and bunnies looked worse in comparison. What's not to understand No, you said that bunnies might be town and definitely wasn't a good lynch. | ||
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On December 11 2014 06:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: MY VIDEO WASNT A FUCKING SOFT QUIT READING INTO THINGS THAT ARENT EVEN FUCKING THERE. seriously This is why you don't POST OFF-TOPIC all game. Seriously. | ||
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On December 11 2014 09:39 Fecalfeast wrote: On the bright side, everyone who dies can join my game <3 So, as mafia, you're out to kill as many people as possible? | ||
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On December 12 2014 06:17 sicklucker wrote: Oh I think I know what role ritoky is bad post On December 12 2014 06:33 LightningStrike wrote: What role you think he is? Just curious that's all. terrible post Unless we're mass claiming (not a good time for it), don't claim roles. Mafia can kill whoever they deem to be the most dangerous no matter what. | ||
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On December 12 2014 07:21 froggynoddy wrote: I'm sorry why are you giving reads at night?? Am happy to answer any concerns you may have but during the day please. ...so we can be organized when day arrives? What do you propose we do at night? | ||
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I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote | ||
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On December 12 2014 11:16 Vivax wrote: Templar has a good shot at being scum. For someone who has been NKd in the first night in every game I was in with him, and one who claimed joyful child on top in this one, his play is very underwhelming considering he shows the same pattern of listing multiple scumreads but then focusing only on bunnies or setup/role-related stuff. The big posts can be deceiving and the content is often all over the place. He lacks a healthy focus on what he finds interesting (and as town I figure it wouldn't be to focus on how much time is left to deadline or what someone should or shouldn't claim) I don't find this game interesting any more because: 1. I hate christmas 2. I wanted to play a small, not as many pages game. Seeing 30 new pages before day 1 was half done broke my spirit. WIFOM, but if I was mafia I would be still trying to play this game. I don't like to let people who are pressuring me to help them win down >_> | ||
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On December 12 2014 11:24 sicklucker wrote: I dont like what kelsier did at all. Lets be honest he tricked gullible little kush into committing suicide. I can still see it from a town perspective tho. Im sure LS still remembers something that he pulled in his last game... Hahaha, I'm sure LS remembers that. I think that his wanting to force FF to react was honest, but I need to check the time stamps for that. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:46 KelsierSC wrote: So i have noticed something with this set up. If you are scrooge just claim. Done within 2 minutes of FF posting. FF had multiple small posts during this time period, so Kelsier's claim that he was trying to force a reaction from FF isn't terribly unlikely and it does check out. | ||
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On December 12 2014 11:41 Tubesock wrote: Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon. 4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No. Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM???? Sassy. Answer the damn question. | ||
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On December 12 2014 11:56 rsoultin wrote: Does it sound terrible if I admit that I kind of just want to lynch Tubesock right now for being annoying? (Not really sold on the "scumslip" cause new players get things wrong all the time, though he's sure sticking to that number, isn't he? Maybe it has to do with 5 deaths so he's just assuming there are 5 scum?) Yeah, so obviously not going to vote him just cause if he were here right now I'd be tempted to throw him out a window, but...dude, compared to me at early game I was angelic. When did you start channeling the ass? @Tube If that's supposed to be slam, you're failing. Yeah. I don't know why Tubesock is suddenly more confident considering we've lost 6 towns (and we're presumably 15 vs 5 now) | ||
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On December 12 2014 12:05 sicklucker wrote: The_Templar is the only one making any sense right now and hes sheeping me. Im really scared of all of you. That's usually a bad sign >.> | ||
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I said that reading me as town after those santa fluff posts was bad unless you had reasoning. I saw NB was worse than Kelsier so I switched to her. And for you people not reading my last several posts. You better start. Focus on what matters. All this, "well so and so was this in a game and so that is my bullshit stupid wasteful read." You make it easy to lynch Ninjabunnies. If you don't understand what I say here, you are not putting in any effort. Don't be lazy. Meta reads are only barely useful when you have NOTHING IN THE CURRENT GAME. "Read my post because it matters. Only this game matters. NB was an easy lynch to you. Put in effort. No meta please." Sounds like me in my first game where I was mafia. | ||
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On December 12 2014 12:48 ritoky wrote: you're looking at the play from the perspective of me claiming after i opened it, which is not the case, not me claiming before i opened it and it potentially killing me, that's why you think it is so dumb. The point is that, since you're not dead, if you're town mafia knows they can RB you tonight. | ||
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On December 12 2014 12:55 ritoky wrote: there's no guarantee they have a rb in the first place, do you know for certain they have one? even if that is the case that means that is no rb on our cop/doc/vigi which is a net positive anyway imo. you didn't even read my reasoning. i can tell. Ehh, fair enough. I do not know whether they have a RB, but they could also just kill you with one of their likely multiple KP. If they do RB, they'd rather RB a confirmed shot instead of someone who might be a blue. | ||
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On December 12 2014 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote: a pattern of what? Its like bad, dunno why you are calling a scumread on you good for no reason. I really dont like it when people do that. It shows a trend of my posts having less effort as I've become less busy. I think, though, that that's sort of misleading because that doesn't really indicate being scummy. | ||
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On December 12 2014 22:50 froggynoddy wrote: [Am reading through the thread and responding to what I see - hence disjointed structure] I don't like the ritocky vote. When the NB wagon was going he was the only one to really try and pressure two other players. This feels town to me (as NB flipped town herself). Declaring he was opening the present is stupid, not scummy (as far as I understand the mechanic of preseent opening. -------------------------------------------- This has already been answered in the thread. I don't like that you are asking this straight up. I personally think its way too early to role claim. We need to lynch properly and then consider day 3. -------------------------------------------- The templar is definitely scum. All his posts so far have been sensible yet have given nothing of value. He has not pushed or. Oats would also be a good lynch but would prefer templar. -------------------------------------------- Holy slip batman! ##Vote: Tubesock What do you think about Tubesock's recent play concerning me? | ||
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On December 13 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote: Actually whoever started with the third present should claim immediately. Just dont say who you gave it too. I can get alot of info off this. What on earth can you get from that? | ||
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On December 13 2014 05:31 sicklucker wrote: If no one claims. Then we know mafia has it because a town would claim. If a mafia fakeclaims that could help us too Why on earth does it matter and how will it help you, dammit? | ||
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On December 13 2014 05:46 GlowingBear wrote: Templar, thoughts on my brief case on HF. On December 13 2014 05:28 GlowingBear wrote: HF doesn't look like he is pushin town agenda, but his own self agenda. This looks much more like mafia holyflare. He points out things that aren't really mafiaish and doesn't seem to try to further identify people's alignment. His pushes aren't for solving the game. They are mostly done just to push, just to make a lynch happen, maybe. His backtracking on froggy is weird because he kept an absolute stance regarding bunnies, who I just say sounded more null than anything, and froggy is leaning scum. HF once came to the thread and said that we should look for people outside the NB wagon, which is ridiculous. He wasn't talking about people who WASTED their votes. He was talking about people outside the main wagon. He also said me and ritoky looked the worst. You can see he is doing a timid push on ritoky, but it really doesn't sound like he is trying to figure out his alignment. Weirdly enough, the present claim from ritoky remained unquestioned by HF. MOREOVER, he did not make ANY attempt to figure out my alignment when he said I looked bad at that time. He is scum. Bolded: where did he say that? Otherwise I agree with this case. HF looks worse than he did halfway through day 1 | ||
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On December 13 2014 06:18 Tubesock wrote: I haven't seen any post that gives the ratio of mafia to town for this game. But I'm assuming since the two newby games that peaked my interest were 10/3 and we have 26 we have 6 mafia in this game. I have 5 scum that I will gladly take a lynching to show that maybe I am on the right track. I've called out 3 of them at the end of night one. They all appeared and instead of ignoring me like I feel many were, they took it more seriously. Sicklucker is really pushing this 5 thing. Templar too. Sicklucker tries to vote me to pressure but I ignore it till Templar does comes to lend a hand. If my thoughts on this are correct then Templar thought I was a strong enough threat to support Sick in pressuring me. To me this solidifies their relationship. On D1 I saw that Damdred lightly called bs on Templar's RNG. I don't know how you would rig it, but I am sure a smart person can. It seems he would only have 20 minutes to be able to figure out who to rig it to, how to rig it, and how to generally take advantage of this. Later in the game, on one of my first few posts I questioned GlowingBear on what I thought was strange behavior of Templar's list. If he responded I didn't see it. Later I challanged Kelsier on his flirting with Bunnies. His response to me I thought was strange telling me to grow up. I guess I expected a "I'm pushing the thread" or an "I'm gathering reads from...". Nope, he says I need to grow up. Huh. I noticed a pattern with Templar and Kelsier that I didn't really notice with others. GlowingBear and Holyfire challenge Templar a little on his reads and not hunting. Templar responds with "I do have reads, see: Kita, Ninja, Froggy". 6 minutes later, Templar asks Kelsier about something, and Kelsier responds with "I don't like the explanation." 2 minutes after that Templar defends Kelsier again and leaves. Damdred dying led more credence to his RNG claim. Without that, it's pretty ridiculous. I'm certainly not smart enough to do it, but is Templar and the rest smart enough? If someone looks at the RNG claim, it's pretty easy to see that there is a relationship with Templar and Kelsier. Demdred and I are the only ones with any breadcrumbs that lead to a Templar and Kelsier relationship. Who would be more important to kill to stop that trail? I can rig RNG pretty easily. That's not very important at this stage. I haven't paid any attention to Kelsier except that he is friendly and I treat him in a friendly way. | ||
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On December 13 2014 12:25 Vivax wrote: Tentative naughty list, it would be cool if we could lynch one of these baddies today: - GB for this discrepancy in his case. The froggynoddy suspicion is entirely new and he doesn't look included among his scumspects. Rather fresh scumread stemming from that HF case, still have to look for more stuff thoroughly. - TheTemplar for not being the ballsy, (scumhuntingly) talkative town templar who always gets townread D1 and mostly NKd N1. Gut based explanation, check for inconsistencies also pending here (yes I'm not going through as many filters thoroughly as I probably should yet, besides we can't lynch all of em today so I think it's fine) - Fecalfeast for some of the stuff I found in his filter and already mentioned, plus he martyrs at various points, like during N1 and lately when he sort of expressed he doesn't care about the scumreads. But it's not the sort of righteous townie martyr when somebody is genuinely pissed off about people scumreading him or the sort, it's more like the "I don't care about the game"- martyr. Additionally he was in the focus of the night killed guys. - Trfel for playing extremely subpar to his last game when he's capable of much much more. He doesn't want to stand in the spotlight in this game. There's probably 5 scum since the formula for scummers is usually amount of players / 5. I don't know why people go on so much about tubesock claiming there's 5 scum being a scumslip. Scumslips are overrated in all the games I've played in save very few exceptions. Overall I find him tedious to read cause he has such a weird way of expressing himself, if I would give him a read it certainly wouldn't be cause of that. Finding the likely 5th scum pending. Tempted to look into the direction of Oats, soultin, Kelsier for this one. I will admit that I'm not playing like either my town or scum meta. When I'm mafia, I tend to lurk a lot and try to have reads on everyone to look like I'm trying to solve the game. Sorry I'm being inactive, stuff that happened during day 1 broke my spirit in general. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=117#2321 Just because you say you're playing brilliantly as town doesn't mean that you are town. Remember Sicklucker’s entrance? BRILLIANT. He comes in with the DUMBEST thing ever. He REPEATS his first line and STILL we don’t give him any attention. Can ANY of you think of a more brilliant play to stay under the radar? He was right in our face. This enabled him to hunt for his Scapegoat, and found GlowingBear. Actually, SL jumped to the front of the radar for me. I didn't read him scum, but I watched him very closely for some time. His play was exactly like campus mafia from what I saw. Anyway, that's not how this game works. SL is not a complete newbie. We know how he plays. Him making an intentionally stupid play would be noticed at the very least. Sicklucker tried to nitpick me and put in more effort to trap me than he has for anyone in the game. I ignored him. Who comes to help him out? Templar. Then I respond and answer the questions. As I notice that more and more people are seeing me, noticing me, and being threatened by me, I knew I was on the right path. I disrupted Mafia. I brought their game to them. Mafia is supposed to disrupt town. Not today. I bet not 1 single town here thought I made any sense. HolyFlare was trying to get me to respond to him so he could engage. But I was focused. I only saw my scum and Alakaslam. This is wildly distorted. Why is mafia grouping up in order to pressure you being disrupted by you being pressured and not making sense to any town people? Why are you threatening people by answering questions? You can't say that you were turning the mafia's plan against them when you had no support, and you definitely can't say you ignored HF, who you scumread LATER. No post of GlowingBear is helpful to town except for his long part 1 post. Why was he the only one to respond to me like that? No one on this kill list has. It’s because GlowingBear didn’t think Sicklucker was a threat. Sicklucker attached himself somewhat subtlety. GlowingBear didn’t think I was a threat either. Not until he was getting run over by HolyFlare and “defended” by Sicklucker. Then he had motivation because there were real teeth on him. Why does this lead you to town read GB as town? On December 14 2014 05:17 liancourt wrote: The fact that tube is spewing out scum reads should mean something. Totally bleeding town putting way too much effort to be mafia. Get on the kel wagon Why does him defending himself mean he's town? I would be exactly the opposite. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:04 GlowingBear wrote: I WILL LYNCH WHOEVER DOES NOT VOTES ON HOLYFLARE AFTER THE BEST CASE OF MY LIFE I WILL LYNCH WHOEVER DOES NOT VOTES ON HF AND I'LL PM GAY PORN EVERYDAY TO YOU GUYS. EVERYDAY. will switch if tubesock's tryhard defense continues to convince enough people to unvote him | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:07 GlowingBear wrote: You will switch now. Mafia is deflecting the ongoing HF's lynch. It was the best opportunity for them to lynch HF but they started deflecting it to FF. You will switch NOW. Bleh. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:06 liancourt wrote: Town just gives up? No as town u spew scum reads and try to avoid a mislynch. And in the event that u do get lynched the reads will hold some weight and help out town. I would trust the reads of a dead confirmed town than a live unflipped person. Mafia dont scum hunt when they have majority votes. I would scum hunt 100% of the time as pressured mafia. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:09 The_Templar wrote: I would scum hunt 100% of the time as pressured mafia. assuming I'm not the only mafia left. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:04 Tubesock wrote: ##unvote ##Vote: FecalFeast What the fuck is this. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:10 Tubesock wrote: @Templar, I felt GlowingBear was heavily town. Then when he posted that bit in what I thought was a defense of my initial attack and then later HF's push it seemed pretty good. If GlowingBear is town then that would mean 3 reads of mine were totally wrong. But I realized I was looking at Sicklucker like everyone is admitting to right now. That he's a nk later, and no threat. There's no better cover. Then I looked at it like if Sick was very smart. He was posting a lot around the time HF or GB was. I saw a very smart play developing where you could pin Damdred's death on GB and look even more town. It's far more likely, given you have perfect knowledge of who is town, and can talk amongst yourself. But people tend to think it's "meta" or some other silly excuse. No, he's playing perfectly. With that perspective it's easy to see who his partners are. WHY did you think GB was town? You basically made a scum case on him in that post. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:23 Tubesock wrote: I'll vote for any of my 6. I went with Slam, because I trust him. I'm just as happy going to HF, or Kels. Hell, people can get back on my wagon. That would lend more credibility to my case. Way more than our bouncing around does. I listed my mafia list as a order of death preference. That would mean I feel the strongest about Sicklucker and the weakest about LightningStrike. I've done nothing but push Sicklucker for the last 2 hours. Like CRAZY push. FF is not on your six. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:38 Tubesock wrote: He is my 6.5 though. And Kelsier is a MUCH better target. Oh yeah, and you've pushed SL without voting him. Sick play. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:41 Tubesock wrote: Ah, trying to get me to change more vote more? I'm not going to play that game anymore. There can only be two wagons now. It's either me or Kelsier. I'm not trying to get you to change your vote again. But you can't possibly be pushing SL without ever voting him or convincing anyone to vote him. You aren't getting anything done with that and you're only going off the weak scum (or scummish) reads you have that happen to intersect with a bunch of other scum reads. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:41 Tubesock wrote: Ah, trying to get me to change more vote more? I'm not going to play that game anymore. There can only be two wagons now. It's either me or Kelsier. And no there can't be only two wagons. HF looks worse than Kelsier right now. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote: Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play Not sure about that. Tubesock is my top scum right now and he insists on lynching either himself or KSC which makes me think they're not both mafia. That could be a play but I doubt it. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:48 Tubesock wrote: Really? for the last two hours I SPAMMED about how we are not evaluating Sicklucker properly and you think that's not pushing? It created MASS CHAOS. You can't know if it's from a town perspective or a mafia one until I flip. You are doubting me? But yet you are not on me? Why are you not attacking anyone else? you're on HF. When have you ever even HINTED he was in your sights. But yet, you are here, questioning me AND VOTING HIM???? I switched because of GB's case. The difference between you on SL and GB on HF is that you never actually said anything remotely "VOTE SL OR YOU ARE DEAD/TERRIBLE/MAFIA". In fact, you even said that we needed to vote either you or Kelsier today, after your massive chaos concerning SL, so you can hardly be believing what you say. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote: Ok, I'm kinda sold on that HF case and GB is so nuts about all of this that it's giving me townie vibes. ##Vote HF What do you think of Tubesock insisting SL is mafia without ever voting him? | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:49 Tubesock wrote: Templar, you have been on me since the beginning of day 2. AND JUST NOW YOU VOTE OFF ME WHEN I SPAM AND DROP HUGE READS??? Why are you so concerned about this when half the people in this game saw huge walls of text and immediately town read you? You are still mafia in my eyes, don't worry. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:52 Tubesock wrote: HAHAHA, you can't get out of this. Look at them squirm folks. ##Vote: Tubesock. It's 1 mlynch that CONFIRMS 5 mafia and absolutely most likely 6. Lynch/kill them down my list till I'm proven wrong with a town flip. Then reevaluate. Do you really think at least 5 of your reads are guaranteed mafia? ROFL | ||
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I'd rather actually be able to lynch a mafia. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:54 The_Templar wrote: I'd rather actually be able to lynch a mafia. since you have apparently brainwashed everyone into town reading you. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:54 batsnacks wrote: What the literal fuck are you doing tubesteak? | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:56 GlowingBear wrote: Don't worry Templar, I'm keeping my eye in him. I've proved SL is town but he didn't care. He knows he can't successfully go after SL too, which is why he hasn't really been trying to. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:59 Tubesock wrote: Then what the hell was that big post you did in all caps claiming I was right, get your votes off now and go to HF? This is so scummy. Your choice is Kels or me. If you think Sick is town then you don't understand my case. He did not say you were right. He said you were clearly a paranoid town, pointing fingers in places that will never get anywhere. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote: Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there? | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote: temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF. | ||
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I misread a small part of your case, actually. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:11 Tubesock wrote: and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me? Because, unfortunately, nobody wants to lynch you. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote: So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town? Wtf? No. I saw that you were disrupting the people you thought were mafia and I thought that meant that you thought it was pro-town to do so. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:18 Tubesock wrote: Didn't you say earlier that your only interactions with Kelsier were friendly because he was friendly? So, like is that why you are on HF? I can go either way on this. You know both will flip mafia. Which one is easier to sheep a bus and look town? Hmm. I'm on HF because GB's case convinced me. I do not know that both will flip mafia so yes, it does matter. Nice try. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:27 Fecalfeast wrote: GB you here? I need guidance convince people to vote Holyflare instead of KSC is probably the best advice. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:30 KelsierSC wrote: I'm really kind of out of it so dont know what the slam dunk case on me is. I adnit my d2 has been useless butninhave had to spend two nights in hospital. i mean i made a lot of good town reads and made my case on ff d1 , pretty strong case. I had a logical progression to ny vote. For nb i analysed her play very strongly end of d1, my concern with lynching het was to do with her role claim, ibdidbt want to lynch a power rile, looking at the game from. Different perspectives is a towny action not scummy. so i skimmed some stuff, i like gb he is town but just vote whatever my town circle votes. dam,hf,bats kosh,kit,tenplar.xat are the town leaders invite what vou vote for!! soulton is town too where is the vote list? There's a voting thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472995-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells-voting-thread | ||
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On December 14 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote: This guy has also pretty confirmed me as town ...at the beginning of day 1 -_- | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:12 LightningStrike wrote: The Templar I got a question for you Earlier in the thread you used a RNG thing to find scum and landed on KSC who turned out to be Mafia. No can you see if you can use another RNG and find the next scum? Haha, I don't think it works like that. | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote: Haha, I don't think it works like that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23433611 If me talking about RNG was a reliable method to finding mafia, 23433611 mod 19 (remaining players in the game) is 18, meaning it would be Trfel. | ||
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On December 14 2014 12:24 Holyflare wrote: I hadn't done much, he doesn't know my scum meta at all. He knows I rekt him last time as mafia. This guy 100% confirms me as town and gb knows it. I made this EXACT same read last game on why someone was town because of mafia giving reads like this and gb overlooked it only to get told off by marv and gb said: I refuse to believe that he has forgotten such "huge advice" in the span of this 1 game. He literally even says that his fucking read on me about froggy is WRONG and a lie!!!!,!! Like wtfh "sorry guys i was wrong about that so yehhh..." "hf still scum though!" Now his analysis is that mafia either voted me or didn't? Puh lease. That guy isn't town. How is "feels like town hf to me" confirming you as 100% town? Especially as you shot that post down already... On December 09 2014 09:10 Holyflare wrote: Do you know how I play as mafia? This seems pretty baseless if you do and even more so if you don't. I don't get your point on GB. | ||
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On December 14 2014 12:27 Trfel wrote: Sorry, I'm probably being really thick here, but why does KelsierSC saying that Holyflare is town provide any evidence that Holyflare is town? Couldn't he just be trying to make the town opinion favor his mafia buddy? this too | ||
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On December 14 2014 14:23 Tubesock wrote: I can ask you the same thing. Why are you so mad that we lynched a mafia? We have 3 days till the next lynch. If you are town, why are you so worried and frustrated? Because town was successful today? I feel vindicated. Unless you show me some reason to come back and post, I probably won't. I made my case. Your turn. The game isn't over. Your turn. | ||
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On December 14 2014 14:59 Tubesock wrote: No actually. I read it as a confirmation that I'm on the right track and a threat to mafia. Is there any situation that would suggest to you that you are not correct? | ||
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Still waiting for him to do something that I consider towny. | ||
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On December 15 2014 10:51 sicklucker wrote: Well cant he just fire random bullits and hope to get likely? are veg could have also possibly killed one of the non kush towns. But this does worry me According to that wording, he can only kill people that say they're disgruntled. | ||
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On December 15 2014 11:54 Half the Sky wrote: And as I part for the night - Templar, you're saying you're finding nothing towny about Tube. Clarify what you think is scumlike. Can you quote some posts, or are you just going off what you had yesterday? In addition to the scum slip, he continued to be over-the-top aggressive and finding conspiracies, insisting he's 100% right and that mafia would never kill him while finding any reason that he's town. Specifically these: On December 14 2014 06:52 Tubesock wrote: HAHAHA, you can't get out of this. Look at them squirm folks. ##Vote: Tubesock. It's 1 mlynch that CONFIRMS 5 mafia and absolutely most likely 6. Lynch/kill them down my list till I'm proven wrong with a town flip. Then reevaluate. On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote: So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town? On December 14 2014 14:26 Tubesock wrote: I am a good target to keep alive for mafia. I die, it gives MASSIVE credence to my case. | ||
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On December 15 2014 13:18 LightningStrike wrote: The HF case doesn't look good in my eyes and he felt very townie to me that's all. So why Tubesock? | ||
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On December 15 2014 13:48 LightningStrike wrote: GB Null at best for me his wanting to lynch HF so bad and his case for it is meh at best in my opinion and his endless shouting for his lynching just annoyed me a lot because I town reading HF also notice that GB did all this when HF couldn't defend himself because of the post limit? It could mafia action but I got no good case of GB just yet. you're allowed to exceed the post limit to defend yourself | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote: Btw I kind of doubt Templar and Tube are scum together. you think? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Ritoky Explain please | ||
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On December 16 2014 06:57 froggynoddy wrote: Templar why would you vote without understanding? I personally have no idea whether Palmar sends notifications so will have look at rit and consider this separately. I understand it. I wanted the one who slipped to explain himself. | ||
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On December 16 2014 05:50 batsnacks wrote: All Palmar games (that I've played in) are like that. He doesn't give people information they don't need. This appears to be correct. | ||
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On December 16 2014 08:27 LightningStrike wrote: Fixed based on the majority thinking of the situation. I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense... | ||
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On December 16 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote: I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense... ebwop: *gave town | ||
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On December 16 2014 09:35 Tubesock wrote: So, you're saying he is too scummy to be scum? Did you actually read the post you quoted? | ||
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On December 16 2014 09:51 Tubesock wrote: Yes. If you're going to nitpick, then I guess I should have asked Holyflare "So, you're saying he is playing too badly to be mafia?" He said in that post that it's likely that he's either bad at thinking and town or bad at thinking and mafia, meaning it's likely he could be either town or mafia. So no, he didn't say that. | ||
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On December 16 2014 10:50 GlowingBear wrote: Like, this thing here. He says Templar is definetely mafia but bad up voting Tubesock. I can't understand town mindset behind this Agreed. If he really was certain I was mafia, he would be doing much better to actually vote me, as nobody is actually doing so. | ||
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On December 16 2014 10:58 The_Templar wrote: Agreed. If he really was certain I was mafia, he would be doing much better to actually vote me, as nobody is actually doing so. He's also wrong, considering I tried to push Mr. Sock on day 2. | ||
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On December 16 2014 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote: how the fuck does ritoky fail claiming shit not convince you? He can't admit that he is wrong until someone flips in an unexpected way. | ||
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On December 16 2014 22:22 GlowingBear wrote: I don't want to lynch ritoky today and maybe not holyflare. Who's up for another target? Are you serious? | ||
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Mind explaining why you want to move off a confirmed mafia and your top scum read? | ||
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On December 17 2014 00:44 sicklucker wrote: Vivax Is like confirmed town. Explain this should be interesting and kind of random What the hell? How is he confirmed town at all? | ||
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On December 17 2014 00:52 sicklucker wrote: Ls and vivax claimed roles at great risk with little reward. No one counterclaimed they are roles that are only gonna be one of, palmar just wants to mindfuck you. When I say "like confirmed" I say as in like 99% chance. As in you never ever ever vote them out. Wheres my mafia motivation in hard defending you? Read the damn setup. All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role. | ||
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On December 17 2014 00:58 GlowingBear wrote: Is it possible that there was a Scrooge role but no other role related to him? Because that makes one of my theories even greater. Yes. | ||
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On December 17 2014 06:52 froggynoddy wrote: Yeah, my reasoning on templar can pretty much be applied to slam. I just have no idea whether he is just insane... I am insane actually, sup? | ||
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On December 17 2014 07:17 froggynoddy wrote: Templar, slam and perhaps Oats are scummy lurkers rather than simply AFK/ town lurkers for reasons previously disclosed. I'm not a scummy lurker because, as scum, I will always: 1. Post as much as possible, at all hours of the day in order to make myself look active. 2. Post my 'thoughts' on every player, so that I'm not clearly ignoring someone. 3. Make ridiculously long posts to justify an opinion 4. Change my behavior as soon as someone mentions it is scummy. Regarding Vivax, he seems to have a new list of scum reads every day and it's concerning me. | ||
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On December 18 2014 06:44 sicklucker wrote: The templar- Ive played with him once before when I was mafia and got him mislynched. He fought with tooth and nails against it posted like 10 page filters in defense. Here hes like vanished and just sheeped people on non mafia targets, hes my first kill And that is totally similar to this game, because I am up for being lynched. | ||
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On December 18 2014 16:43 Alakaslam wrote: Oh yeah... Templar Why is everyone forgetting templar? Because he played early and is lurking late. This is a scum tendency I should know. "every game" tendency, more like | ||
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On December 18 2014 18:04 Vivax wrote: Templar ur scum with Oats HF, amirite? There's this part in ritoky's filter where he calls you out on the fluffy posts, and it sounds entirely different from how he handles his next suspect, plus his next suspect ends up among his scumreads and you don't. Plus there's one point where he questions an OWS townread but not a townread on you. Additionally you've been a N1 kill in every game I was in and have bled townie every time from the start. Sorry broski but this is ggnore. I'm pretty sure you did exactly the same thing. On December 14 2014 15:07 Vivax wrote: Also Templar is mafia. Like super mafia. This post was followed by nearly 0 mention of me, for about 48-60 hours I believe. The only difference is that you quietly listed me on your scum list about 24 hours ago. | ||
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On December 18 2014 18:11 The_Templar wrote: I'm pretty sure you did exactly the same thing. This post was followed by nearly 0 mention of me, for about 48-60 hours I believe. The only difference is that you quietly listed me on your scum list about 24 hours ago. ebwop: Not exactly the same thing but something very similar. | ||
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The meta isn't nearly as consistent as HF makes it out to be though, I played similarly to this in the MS paint game as town (I gave up in both games too though). I defended myself a lot differently as both mafia and town. | ||
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On December 18 2014 22:54 Holyflare wrote: oh you were in ms paint? it's not in the database so i didn't comment on it We were both in MS paint -_- | ||
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being really active, posting all the time, with long drawn out posts of justification. He seems to have multiple metas thought out for all the occasions! I can lurk and post a lot too, it's not hard... and those two metas are not different. I put out as many words as possible and talk about everyone but I don't put effort into the game. | ||
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On December 18 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote: which is false because your mafia game has the most posts in it of all which means that you didn't lurk and making long posts is a lot of effort, unless you're saying it's based on no content in which case you're just proving my meta read was right??? On December 18 2014 23:01 The_Templar wrote: I can lurk and post a lot too, it's not hard... and those two metas are not different. I put out as many words as possible and talk about everyone but I don't put effort into the game. And no, making long posts doesn't require a lot of effort | ||
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On December 18 2014 23:21 LightningStrike wrote: After KSC flipped scum I asked him for another rng thing he got Tfrel as seen in a earlier post by Templar Now Tfrel turns out to be Santa who just came in late I think the case is good Templar but I think the case on Glowingbear is better atm Seriously? I used the same method of RNG and happened to land on a role, and that reinforces the case on me? | ||
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On December 19 2014 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote: He made a fancy case on templar. If templar flips town feel free to get all mad at me Ok. I am mad at you | ||
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On December 19 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote: The thing that bothers me most on Templar in this game is that he isn't really trying to solve it at all. He comes to the thread at weird times and mostly when cited. Last time he is much more active. His lock on Tubesock seems extremely forced, considering how he isn't trying to get him lynched anymore. Like, I have a lock on on holyflare and I'm trying to get things out of him because either color he flips, will be extremely informative. If he wasn't a bandwagon, I would be trying to get more facts to convince people he is mafia. I don't see Templar doing this. ...as mafia or town... | ||
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On December 19 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote: Like the case is so super solid that even if I was mafia I'm handing you a mafia on a plate so you should be jumping on that shit anyway?? He even returned to say the meta was meh and never said anything about any other part of it. If he does claim a role you'll know he's mafia too because he already claimed joyful child. How perfect is that? Free mafia lynch! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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On December 20 2014 04:07 Xatalos wrote: It is a bit disturbing that Tube hasn't posted almost anything today while he went on a crazy posting streak when he was a lynch candidate... Fits the scum pattern of staying under the radar when possible. oh yeah he's still scum btw | ||
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##Vote: Tubesock | ||
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nice joke | ||
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On December 20 2014 03:18 Holyflare wrote: You realise if you lynch me and then are wrong on gb the game is over. You should consolidate on the most likely scum candidate and not the one that will give you information but are town. I'm also going out tonight so can't make deadline so please don't fuck up AGAIN. Will consolidate on whoever the fuck is not me and people most want to lynch. On December 20 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote tubesock ROFL | ||
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On December 20 2014 08:55 rsoultin wrote: Yeah, I did notice that, too, Templar -_-. there's more, looking for exact posts | ||
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Oh yeah, forgot this part too On December 19 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote: Like the case is so super solid that even if I was mafia I'm handing you a mafia on a plate so you should be jumping on that shit anyway?? He even returned to say the meta was meh and never said anything about any other part of it. If he does claim a role you'll know he's mafia too because he already claimed joyful child. How perfect is that? Free mafia lynch! On December 19 2014 00:26 Holyflare wrote: literally everything in my case makes him mafia unless you can prove that there is towny motivation behind it so to have a difference in care of who to vote is, like vivax said, fucking weird Yet he switches his vote away. Even if he was in danger of being lynched, he'd have to be following the thread near EoD to know that... | ||
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On December 20 2014 08:56 Holyflare wrote: I can prove to you what I'm doing, my gf is busy throwing up so i couldn't go out and I got bored of holding her hair and saw you guys going full retard and sicklucker sheeping my wagon?? And i didn't know if you had enough and so hammered whoever the fuck wasn't me That's not an excuse to switch your vote away. Everyone who was voting was unvoting (some from me, some from you) to switch to tube. If I'm 100% confirmed mafia, you shouldn't be switching your vote to him too. | ||
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On December 20 2014 09:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm absolutely not lynching templar tomorrow after that switch because it looked entirely like a set up for a mislynch loss tomorrow So, do you think 2-3 of FF/rsoul/HtS/Xata/LS are mafia for that switch? | ||
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On December 20 2014 09:27 liancourt wrote: U dont have a shred of doubt that maf are 3. ras says assuming....well Read into what u will but regardless we need to lynch hf like gb and what i said for the past 3 days Are we going to keep discussing hf when he is obvious scum??? With 4 mafia, it's nearly unwinnable isn't it? | ||
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On December 20 2014 09:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm absolutely not lynching templar tomorrow after that switch because it looked entirely like a set up for a mislynch loss tomorrow Are you saying that your entire case on me is (temporarily) invalidated because people switched away at the last minute? | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:29 rsoultin wrote: I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game. I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game. You mean people that I read scum? | ||
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On December 22 2014 04:14 The_Templar wrote: Stop focusing on FF and focus on why I'm mafia and not town. Some of you seem to disagree on very plain facts. ebwop | ||
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On December 22 2014 07:23 rsoultin wrote: Correct. Will you answer my question? What facts were you referring to? Bleh, I don't remember. It's been a long afternoon. Can you all establish whether my lurking is scummy so that you can not suddenly switch at the last second? | ||
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On December 22 2014 07:31 rsoultin wrote: The lynch today appears to be Xata anyway. Everyone is quite convinced. I'm less so, but...that's not new lol. I'm almost never in agreement with the majority of the thread. I also am less sure about you than the majority of the thread. Lurking is scummy, but does it make you scum? Not sure. Are you planning on playing, Templar? You certainly have not been very invested. Do you have any scumreads? I've found myself in an unusually busy situation, so I dunno if I'll be able to play much sorry. No scum reads currently. | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:50 Alakaslam wrote: So next after Templar toss up between hrs and xata for me after you kill me, the game will probably be over, so... | ||
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On December 22 2014 11:55 LightningStrike wrote: Templar mainly posted fluff and hinted at ksc being scum earlier in one of his mini stories. believe me when I say I would have avoided talking about Kelsier at that point if we were both scum. | ||
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On December 23 2014 00:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Im so fucking busy. But this hf read is badbadbabdbadbadbad cant explain why. But its bad. #temp2014 ##vote Temp So you're claiming scum? I agree with rsoul | ||
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I would pick Oats because he is worse than I am. | ||
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On December 23 2014 05:52 GlowingBear wrote: What did I say? Close to the EoD, here comes holyflare trying to survive. You know what's bizarre? How do you KNOW Xatalos sent the present to FF, and not anybody else? I like the part where you call me dumb because it's funny and accurate most of the games. Are you saying there are blatant errors? I didn't really read it, I just went "wow, so much effort" and instinctively sheeped. Looking again. | ||
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On December 23 2014 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: dude HF there are tags in that post I didn't even know existed. How much time did you spend on that shit? I bookmarked it so I could use that BBCode in the future. I knew it existed but could never find a good example | ||
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On December 23 2014 06:28 LightningStrike wrote: Holy hell that is a very long essay HF and honestly that making want to turn back on to Templar. ##Unvote ##Vote The_Templar He literally did not add anything to what he had already said on me. What made you change your mind? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: HolyFlare | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:30 GlowingBear wrote: MASON AND 3rd GHOST SHOULD CLAIM RIGHT NOW. We don't know there's a third ghost | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:11 sicklucker wrote: Like we know who the 3 scum are . xata oats temp of course there conceding their not bm I'm here and not one of the players conceding | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:24 Fecalfeast wrote: For real though why aren't you conceding templar? Or was HF trying to help his team who is now conceding? I'm not conceding because I got a town PM. | ||
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On December 23 2014 12:37 Vivax wrote: Keeping HF alive was worth it with the fake puke pics, the contract and the story of his yelling gf. On the other hand I have no clue why Templar played town so differently from how I'm used to. Because I was much busier and I lost interest after day 1. Just like I said | ||
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On December 23 2014 12:40 LightningStrike wrote: Templar any tips from you? I trying to get good on this game because it's fun but I want to also be the best player possible! My tip is to not assume that other players are playing well. I know I didn't :D | ||
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