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On December 13 2014 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
The only scenario is if they thought ritoky was going to get lynched and want to use his present to kill a town. He was far from a for sure thing but he claimed too early like I would expect mafia to wait till their about to get voted out to claim present.
Also who would have gave him a present anyway. Did gb claim to? I find it odd no third player claimed to have a present to give its so townie to say this only me and gb did. That means to me its probably in mafia hands so claiming he has it makes some sense. Expect another present claim when were about to lynch a mafia because I think they have one in there possession. regardless if its ritokys or not.
Yeah he claimed to give the present to ritoky. It's possible that the remaining present is in scum hands. That'd reduce the risk of counter-claim a bit, but still only to 50/50 since they couldn't know that the other present was on its way to Damdred to disappear from the game. So it's still 50/50 chance of probably getting insta-lynched for... what exactly? He could just have opened it in secret and then used it as scum.
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Actually whoever started with the third present should claim immediately. Just dont say who you gave it too. I can get alot of info off this.
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On December 13 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote:
Actually whoever started with the third present should claim immediately. Just dont say who you gave it too. I can get alot of info off this.
What on earth can you get from that?
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Na I dont think mafia would have killed dandred last night so I think they know its gone. It looks like were lucky mafia has the seer present and not the kp. Can you imagine if mafia has 4kp tonight?
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On December 13 2014 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
Na I dont think mafia would have killed dandred last night so I think they know its gone. It looks like were lucky mafia has the seer present and not the kp. Can you imagine if mafia has 4kp tonight?
I think it'd be gone regardless of how Damdred died since it was sent to him when he died? But that only happened after ritoky claimed to open it so he couldn't have known that it might be relatively safe to do so if the scumteam had the remaining present.
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also its kind of nice that ritoky claimed kp. If he ever uses it we should know. And then we get a 1for1 mafia trade. More reason not to vote him out
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Na like im pretty sure ritokys town. And theres zero reason to ever kill him unless his kp can potentially end the game for mafia. I kinda wanna look at hf.
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Well the more likely scenario seems to be Mafia RB'ing him and the bullet being destroyed. If Mafia has the RB'er and he really opened it. In case Mafia has no RB'er, we should probably order ritoky to shoot some likely scum of our choosing at night.
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On December 13 2014 05:17 sicklucker wrote:
also its kind of nice that ritoky claimed kp. If he ever uses it we should know. And then we get a 1for1 mafia trade. More reason not to vote him out
I don't know if we have a vigilante (I can't tell if Kush was killed by vig or Marley??), but if we're sure FF is scum, and we have the extra kp, we should probably use it on FF.
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On December 13 2014 05:21 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 05:17 sicklucker wrote:
also its kind of nice that ritoky claimed kp. If he ever uses it we should know. And then we get a 1for1 mafia trade. More reason not to vote him out I don't know if we have a vigilante (I can't tell if Kush was killed by vig or Marley??), but if we're sure FF is scum, and we have the extra kp, we should probably use it on FF.
Not a bad idea.
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Its very unlikely we have a vigilantly. I really dont think anyone was bad enough to shoot kush there when I was begging them not to and explaining why at eod.
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On December 13 2014 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
Na like im pretty sure ritokys town. And theres zero reason to ever kill him unless his kp can potentially end the game for mafia. I kinda wanna look at hf.
Hm. I think he's looked decent enough. Vivax and you seem more likely town though, and maybe LS. Definitely if he's alive in 1-2 days it might be time to worry.
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That being said people were pushing are vig to shoot kush and he might have believed them... Someone with posts left should probably integrate these people because their logic is so bad its mind boggling.
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On December 13 2014 05:10 sicklucker wrote:
Actually whoever started with the third present should claim immediately. Just dont say who you gave it too. I can get alot of info off this.
Lol what kind of info?
Lololol
Ok, listen:
The only important point regarding presents is that ritoky claimed he got one, which is more detrimental than helpful, because, in case he don't die night1, he dies/get roleblocked night2, which is awful for town. But if you think of it again, there is no motive for him to claim that he is opening the present as mafia. I just used my brain a little more and got to this conclusion. Which means that talking about presents is only helpful when considering mass claiming. We should drop this discussion right now.
HF doesn't look like he is pushin town agenda, but his own self agenda. This looks much more like mafia holyflare. He points out things that aren't really mafiaish and doesn't seem to try to further identify people's alignment. His pushes aren't for solving the game. They are mostly done just to push, just to make a lynch happen, maybe.
His backtracking on froggy is weird because he kept an absolute stance regarding bunnies, who I just say sounded more null than anything, and froggy is leaning scum.
HF once came to the thread and said that we should look for people outside the NB wagon, which is ridiculous. He wasn't talking about people who WASTED their votes. He was talking about people outside the main wagon. He also said me and ritoky looked the worst. You can see he is doing a timid push on ritoky, but it really doesn't sound like he is trying to figure out his alignment. Weirdly enough, the present claim from ritoky remained unquestioned by HF. MOREOVER, he did not make ANY attempt to figure out my alignment when he said I looked bad at that time.
He is scum.
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If no one claims. Then we know mafia has it because a town would claim. If a mafia fakeclaims that could help us too
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On December 13 2014 05:26 sicklucker wrote:
That being said people were pushing are vig to shoot kush and he might have believed them... Someone with posts left should probably integrate these people because their logic is so bad its mind boggling.
Since you asked:
Page 72 of the thread - the following advocated to shoot Kush: Koshi (several times), Xatalos, Batsnacks.
Fecalfeast was saying we should have lynched Kush instead of 27NB.
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Oh yeah the Kush thing. At the time I thought Kush was scum/anti-town town trolling about the role. What's most mind-boggling is that he actually was Scrooge and cost us a significant portion of our power for his stupidity.
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Ya of those people I like bats crazy reason to kill kush ( to get 2 for one) I think hes wrong but I believe he believes what hes saying. Kosh is town so ya but I find it weird 4 towns could make this mistake and no mafia would push it.
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Go back and read what I said about HF.
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Hf is my #2 lynch but I wanna reread his shit.
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